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    PwnanObrienPwnanObrien He's right, life sucks. Registered User regular
    Pretty sure I was advocating for no longer running a series of Southern primaries first because it's a deliberate attempt to weed out actual progressive candidates post-George McGovern. Please, keep framing it as if I don't want the south to vote at all though.

    Honestly at this point I think it would be more fair just to pick the order of primaries at random. Roll some dice or draw cards to see who goes first since apparently that's already part of the process. Maybe we can put all the states in a big bingo hopper and draw names like it's the Royal Rumble.

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    KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    edited March 2016
    I'd be down for any primary system change that knocks iowa and new hampshire down a couple pegs

    they smug as hell about going first

    Kwoaru on
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    BaidolBaidol I will hold him off Escape while you canRegistered User regular
    I'd be down for a schedule where states with relatively few delegates representing varied geographical regions went earlier. New Hampshire and Iowa can keep their ball, but let's throw in Idaho and New Mexico and Mississipi.

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    JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    it should be done like the NBA lottery

    the shittier your state is the earlier you get to pick

    then we get cool media coverage like "man Wyoming just set their water treatment facility on fire, they are definitely playing for a pick this offseason"

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    mcpmcp Registered User regular
    I think you'd just have Florida go first every year at that point.

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    PwnanObrienPwnanObrien He's right, life sucks. Registered User regular
    Yeah, I mean ideally there would be some weighted measures to which states go first to get the broadest representation of each party.

    ...but at this point it would be better than what we're currently doing to settle it like I do picking a game to play on Steam. Dump all the options in a random.org list and roll until the joke option's on the bottom of the list so you can't just keep rolling to get a desired outcome. Sorry Florida.

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    PwnanObrienPwnanObrien He's right, life sucks. Registered User regular
    Damnit. Ghosted on shitting on Florida...

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    MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    Or, crazy idea, a rotating regional primary for each party that splits the country into roughly co-equal population groups and has them all vote on the same day.

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    “He put himself through Harvard Law School by working as a tutor, by stocking shoes in a shoe store, and — what is a painful moment for any young man — selling his comic book collection,” Obama said. “It’s tough. Been there.”

    Heh

    alright, Barry

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    ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    I just saw fox news arguing that Hillary is weak because all of bernies voters are are young and young people will all vote for trump

    Its weird to see just how much fox lies

    Its completely insane

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    I just saw fox news arguing that Hillary is weak because all of bernies voters are are young and young people will all vote for trump

    Its weird to see just how much fox lies

    Its completely insane

    They're not even trying to sound like they're making sense at this point.

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    Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    YaYa wrote: »
    Can't we agree that duels are dumb and immature

    sure, but Trump has to answer for his words, sir

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    ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    Looootta talk in the news today about a contested repub convention

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    masterofmetroidmasterofmetroid Have you ever looked at a world and seen it as a kind of challenge?Registered User regular
    I ain't holding my breath on that one

    It'd be great, but i don't think it's happening.

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    rhylithrhylith Death Rabbits HoustonRegistered User regular
    Looootta talk in the news today about a contested repub convention

    They still gotta keep trump from sweeping the rest of the states. I think trump still needs like 60% of the remaining delegates? But it's within reach thanks to Ohio and would've been a hell of a lot easier if Rubio could've carried his own home state.

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    FawstFawst The road to awe.Registered User regular
    Looootta talk in the news today about a contested repub convention

    Wow, yeah there is. Googled "contested convention" and there are a lot of hits from the past few hours. Laughably, the very first hit is "Trump, Cruz vow to barricade Kasich from convention."

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    JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    i don't think it will be contested if Cruz continues to have really close 2nd place finished. The GOP isn't going to go nuclear so they can install the guy they hate the second-most.

    There's a lot of mysticism about where the not-insubstantial Rubio coalition goes, and that will shape the rest of the primary.

    Demographically, many Rubio voters are Kasich voters too

    However, there is polling to indicate the majority of Rubio's vote goes to Cruz or stays home

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    King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    I just saw fox news arguing that Hillary is weak because all of bernies voters are are young and young people will all vote for trump

    Its weird to see just how much fox lies

    Its completely insane

    Horrible racist young people will for sure. After listening to that Sameer goose on Unpopular opinion I realized that there's a large segment of 1st gen immigrant kids and second gen children of immigrants in their 20's that are just terrible people . The " Got mine fuck anyone else" voting group as I call it.

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    BaidolBaidol I will hold him off Escape while you canRegistered User regular
    rhylith wrote: »
    Looootta talk in the news today about a contested repub convention

    They still gotta keep trump from sweeping the rest of the states. I think trump still needs like 60% of the remaining delegates? But it's within reach thanks to Ohio and would've been a hell of a lot easier if Rubio could've carried his own home state.

    We are certainly closer to a contested convention than we have been in a while, but Trump still has a good shot at just making it over the 50% of delegates threshold, mostly due to how each state awards its delegates.

    For example, in Illinois, Trump won just under 39% of the vote, but is being awarded 71% of the delegates right now because delegates are awarded based on who wins each congressional district and who wins the statewide vote. In a straight-up proportional distribution system, Trump's lead would be smaller.

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    JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited March 2016
    also if Kasich somehow wins or comes extremely close in Pennsylvania, hold onto your butts, because I think that will raise a big Contested Convention alarm in the party. Because having a guy who is popular-against-all-odds in OH and PA is general election gold

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    rhylithrhylith Death Rabbits HoustonRegistered User regular
    Jasconius wrote: »
    also if Kasich somehow wins or comes extremely close in Pennsylvania, hold onto your butts, because I think that will raise a big Contested Convention alarm in the party. Because having a guy who is popular-against-all-odds in OH and PA is general election gold

    How's he polling there?

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    BaidolBaidol I will hold him off Escape while you canRegistered User regular
    Trump ahead, but no major polls since early March.

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    GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    People have been talking about Paul Ryan getting the nomination from a contested convention which seems too insane.

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    rhylithrhylith Death Rabbits HoustonRegistered User regular
    Gundi wrote: »
    People have been talking about Paul Ryan getting the nomination from a contested convention which seems too insane.

    Ryan also said he won't accept the nom.

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    BaidolBaidol I will hold him off Escape while you canRegistered User regular
    Gundi wrote: »
    People have been talking about Paul Ryan getting the nomination from a contested convention which seems too insane.

    A fun fantasy being thrown around. In a contested convention, as a delegate, you can vote for whoever the hell you want once you are unbound.

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    King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    Jasconius wrote: »
    also if Kasich somehow wins or comes extremely close in Pennsylvania, hold onto your butts, because I think that will raise a big Contested Convention alarm in the party. Because having a guy who is popular-against-all-odds in OH and PA is general election gold

    As a PA resident Kasich seems awful but less than the establishment candidates because he hates is party as much as I do. I wouldn't vote for him but I'd feel less worried about the world if he somehow won as opposed to the rest of those guys

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    rhylithrhylith Death Rabbits HoustonRegistered User regular
    edited March 2016
    Kasich has convinced the world he's a moderate and he can use (and has used) this to sneak some really awful shit past people.

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    JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    Trump ahead in PA but he underperforms his polls, and the poll includes Rubio

    I think Kasich can challenge there

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    ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    milski wrote: »
    -Tal wrote: »
    sanders has definitely inherited a lot of the young ron paul crowd

    In spirit if not in actual votes, because dear god I hope vocal Ron Paul supporters learned something over the course of 8-12 years.

    when young white male libertarians get a bat taken to their head by life experience they tend to go all the way over to the far left

    so, possibly

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    BaidolBaidol I will hold him off Escape while you canRegistered User regular
    Trump needs 56% of the remaining Republic delegates to get the nomination on the first ballot. That sounds like a great deal, but most of the remaining states are winner-take-all or close to it, so if Trump continues to top vote totals (even at 40%), he'll have the nomination, particularly if he wins California.

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    MaximumMaximum Registered User regular
    You know a political party is in trouble when their constituents start getting excited for John Kasich.

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    NeoTomaNeoToma Registered User regular
    Shorty wrote: »
    milski wrote: »
    -Tal wrote: »
    sanders has definitely inherited a lot of the young ron paul crowd

    In spirit if not in actual votes, because dear god I hope vocal Ron Paul supporters learned something over the course of 8-12 years.

    when young white male libertarians get a bat taken to their head by life experience they tend to go all the way over to the far left

    so, possibly

    Do they?

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    rhylithrhylith Death Rabbits HoustonRegistered User regular
    Baidol wrote: »
    Trump needs 56% of the remaining Republic delegates to get the nomination on the first ballot. That sounds like a great deal, but most of the remaining states are winner-take-all or close to it, so if Trump continues to top vote totals (even at 40%), he'll have the nomination, particularly if he wins California.

    I guess the question is does Kasich get all those Rubio voters. If so he'll definitely contend in PA like Jasc was saying, and he'll probably do well in other swing states.

    Personally although I'm terrified of the thought of president trump I kind of hope he gets the nod and gets annihilated in the general. The only problem is that second part has to happen or we're fucked.

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    DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    NeoToma wrote: »
    Shorty wrote: »
    milski wrote: »
    -Tal wrote: »
    sanders has definitely inherited a lot of the young ron paul crowd

    In spirit if not in actual votes, because dear god I hope vocal Ron Paul supporters learned something over the course of 8-12 years.

    when young white male libertarians get a bat taken to their head by life experience they tend to go all the way over to the far left

    so, possibly

    Do they?

    I did

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    ToxTox I kill threads he/himRegistered User regular
    rhylith wrote: »
    Looootta talk in the news today about a contested repub convention

    They still gotta keep trump from sweeping the rest of the states. I think trump still needs like 60% of the remaining delegates? But it's within reach thanks to Ohio and would've been a hell of a lot easier if Rubio could've carried his own home state.

    53% of the remaining after last night.
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    BaidolBaidol I will hold him off Escape while you canRegistered User regular
    rhylith wrote: »
    Baidol wrote: »
    Trump needs 56% of the remaining Republic delegates to get the nomination on the first ballot. That sounds like a great deal, but most of the remaining states are winner-take-all or close to it, so if Trump continues to top vote totals (even at 40%), he'll have the nomination, particularly if he wins California.

    I guess the question is does Kasich get all those Rubio voters. If so he'll definitely contend in PA like Jasc was saying, and he'll probably do well in other swing states.

    Personally although I'm terrified of the thought of president trump I kind of hope he gets the nod and gets annihilated in the general. The only problem is that second part has to happen or we're fucked.

    Well, yeah, but that's why I'm looking forward to it. Confronting your darkest aspects is hard. I want this election to not just be a win, but a crushing win. If you ever daydreamed as a kid about standing against the darkness and emerging victorious, now's your shot. Everyone has skin in the game this time.

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    ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    NeoToma wrote: »
    Shorty wrote: »
    milski wrote: »
    -Tal wrote: »
    sanders has definitely inherited a lot of the young ron paul crowd

    In spirit if not in actual votes, because dear god I hope vocal Ron Paul supporters learned something over the course of 8-12 years.

    when young white male libertarians get a bat taken to their head by life experience they tend to go all the way over to the far left

    so, possibly

    Do they?

    yeah

    libertarians either stay that way forever or take a hard left swing sometime in their twenties

    for the most part, anyway, and I couldn't tell you what the proportion looks like

    but yeah there is a not-insignificant number of honest progressive and socialist supporters of Bernie who are reformed libertarians and Paul supporters

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    ToxTox I kill threads he/himRegistered User regular
    Shorty wrote: »
    NeoToma wrote: »
    Shorty wrote: »
    milski wrote: »
    -Tal wrote: »
    sanders has definitely inherited a lot of the young ron paul crowd

    In spirit if not in actual votes, because dear god I hope vocal Ron Paul supporters learned something over the course of 8-12 years.

    when young white male libertarians get a bat taken to their head by life experience they tend to go all the way over to the far left

    so, possibly

    Do they?

    yeah

    libertarians either stay that way forever or take a hard left swing sometime in their twenties

    for the most part, anyway, and I couldn't tell you what the proportion looks like

    but yeah there is a not-insignificant number of honest progressive and socialist supporters of Bernie who are reformed libertarians and Paul supporters

    *raises hand* yo.

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    Kwoaru wrote: »
    I'd be down for any primary system change that knocks iowa and new hampshire down a couple pegs

    they smug as hell about going first

    as a resident of Iowa I can assure you that most of us are mostly just tired

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    Desert LeviathanDesert Leviathan Registered User regular
    Teenage Libertarian swings Hard Left in his 20's fits my own narrative pretty well. Although I was more of a Teenage Anarchist who thought Libertarianism was a socially acceptable compromise.

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