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Take the cannoli, leave the [Movies] Thread (contains Lights Out spoilers, quarantined)
Who even thought that was an ok way to end a film?
Oh... a horror writer. Of course.
I think you guys are overlooking the fact that this entire genre commonly ends films on notes of meanspirited nihilism. Nothing the protagonists did matters, evil always wins etc. etc. Pretty bog standard.
Seriously. It's not the first movie with that ending either. I'd wager almost everyone here has seen the one I'm thinking of.
Fight Club
I don't think we need to put Fight Club under spoilers at this point. Anyone who wants to see it has seen it.
The difference there, of course, is that he didn't kill himself he just seriously injured himself in a way that tricked one of his multiple personalities into non-existence. It was desperate, but calculated - and it paid off. Not exactly a happy ending but for such a fucked up film with such weird messaging (a lot of which unfortunately were picked up by a lot of people) it was kind of a high note.
You misunderstand the purpose of my spoilers. As I'm comparing two movies, knowledge of one is a spoiler for the other.
It's like if I said that Ghostbusters had an ending like Shutter Island. It's not true, but if it were it would be a MASSIVE spoiler to anyone who had seen Shutter Island.
Fight Club's ending was also an extension of buddist philosophy I believe where you have to kill your god to free yourself. I swear I remember that from the movie commentary.
Also in the book it was more implicit he shot a wound in his cheek that never healed from all the fighting, he never shot himself in a way that could actually kill himself.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
Oh, oh, Portal! Portal is the last game I played where violence is never an option.
Uh... the game literally ends with [spoilers]you pummeling your long time adversary with rockets, explosively disassembling them piece by piece, and then physically destroying parts of their personality by feeding them to what you believe is an incinerator.[/spoiler]
Oh, oh, Portal! Portal is the last game I played where violence is never an option.
You know you can escape the incinerator at the end of the tests right? :P
Yea? I don't think any parts of the game have "Kill or maim this entity" as the solution. Maybe the final part, but I consider that more dismantling a machine. You certainly don't shoot or beat up anyone.
To go back on topic, I love the article. It made me about a movie called Men with Guns and Roger Ebert's review of it. In particular, the last line:
I understand guns in war, in hunting, in sport. But when a man feels he needs a gun to leave his house in the morning, I fear that man. I fear his fear. He believes that the only man more powerless than himself is a dead man.
Now more than ever I should probably make time to watch it.
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KadokenGiving Ends to my Friends and it Feels StupendousRegistered Userregular
Wow that is just the worst decision anybody has made in quite a while.
real spoilers
Let's make our movie about depression, and in the end the protagonist wins by committing suicide
I mean, holy shit
Lights out spoilers for real.
Yeah and effectively "frees" her family from herself, that's some horrible shit.
what the fuuuck
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TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
Black Mass (HBO) is a really good movie, right in that Donnie Brasco vein of being a better take on a biopic.
It's not so much a Whitey Bulger movie as a John Connolly movie, the FBI guy who grew up idolizing Bulger and established him being an "informant" to stop the italian mafia, only to be sucked into the world of crime himself. And with Joel Edgerton playing Connolly, and totally pulling off a mini Kurt Russell in Miracle vibe with the hair and face, it's a good way to make Depp's portrayal not become a display of Depp in disguise, which was really good. I don't know if they gave him blue contacts or made his eyes blue with CGI but he's totally got that vibe of being nice to the neighborhood, and crazy, but smart enough to know when he's being played a fool. It's a hard balance to carry but Depp makes it work.
What is surprising is how many cameos there are in this movie. You got Dr. Strange as Bulger's senator brother (with a bad boston accent that comes and goes and seems like no one wanted to tell the oscar nominee he's not doing it right), Footloose is here and does a great job, Yellowjacket makes up for that bland movie with his performance, you got the sociopath kid from the last season of Breaking Bad here too, along with Juno Temple and Ben Wyatt. All this makes up for Dakota Johnson's thankfully short appearance in this movie where she too tries and fails to have a southie accent, only remembering it at the end of sentences.
David O. Russell should take note, this is how you copy a Marty Score movie, letting the usual style of his films (narration good music) become outlets for an original idea in framing the story, which in this case revolves around how everyone started to snitch on Bulger when it was revealed he was an informant all along. It works, it's smart, and it allows different voices, just like how Karen would take over a bit here and there for Henry in Goodfellas.
Looking at its budget I'm surprised it only basically broke even, it seems to fill that medium budget thriller genre.
Two thumbs up.
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KadokenGiving Ends to my Friends and it Feels StupendousRegistered Userregular
Is Black Mass the one where Johnny Depp dresses up like Hunter S Thompson and goes apeshit with a shotgun?
And now you guys have all just effectively spoiled Lights Out in a way that is largely irreparable short of either a whole lot of editing or just nixing the whole thread.
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I don't think we need to put Fight Club under spoilers at this point. Anyone who wants to see it has seen it.
The difference there, of course, is that he didn't kill himself he just seriously injured himself in a way that tricked one of his multiple personalities into non-existence. It was desperate, but calculated - and it paid off. Not exactly a happy ending but for such a fucked up film with such weird messaging (a lot of which unfortunately were picked up by a lot of people) it was kind of a high note.
It's like if I said that Ghostbusters had an ending like Shutter Island. It's not true, but if it were it would be a MASSIVE spoiler to anyone who had seen Shutter Island.
Also in the book it was more implicit he shot a wound in his cheek that never healed from all the fighting, he never shot himself in a way that could actually kill himself.
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Uh... the game literally ends with [spoilers]you pummeling your long time adversary with rockets, explosively disassembling them piece by piece, and then physically destroying parts of their personality by feeding them to what you believe is an incinerator.[/spoiler]
So I'm not entirely sure that's true.
That is simply not true.
How could you?
Yea? I don't think any parts of the game have "Kill or maim this entity" as the solution. Maybe the final part, but I consider that more dismantling a machine. You certainly don't shoot or beat up anyone.
To go back on topic, I love the article. It made me about a movie called Men with Guns and Roger Ebert's review of it. In particular, the last line: Now more than ever I should probably make time to watch it.
what the fuuuck
It's not so much a Whitey Bulger movie as a John Connolly movie, the FBI guy who grew up idolizing Bulger and established him being an "informant" to stop the italian mafia, only to be sucked into the world of crime himself. And with Joel Edgerton playing Connolly, and totally pulling off a mini Kurt Russell in Miracle vibe with the hair and face, it's a good way to make Depp's portrayal not become a display of Depp in disguise, which was really good. I don't know if they gave him blue contacts or made his eyes blue with CGI but he's totally got that vibe of being nice to the neighborhood, and crazy, but smart enough to know when he's being played a fool. It's a hard balance to carry but Depp makes it work.
What is surprising is how many cameos there are in this movie. You got Dr. Strange as Bulger's senator brother (with a bad boston accent that comes and goes and seems like no one wanted to tell the oscar nominee he's not doing it right), Footloose is here and does a great job, Yellowjacket makes up for that bland movie with his performance, you got the sociopath kid from the last season of Breaking Bad here too, along with Juno Temple and Ben Wyatt. All this makes up for Dakota Johnson's thankfully short appearance in this movie where she too tries and fails to have a southie accent, only remembering it at the end of sentences.
David O. Russell should take note, this is how you copy a Marty Score movie, letting the usual style of his films (narration good music) become outlets for an original idea in framing the story, which in this case revolves around how everyone started to snitch on Bulger when it was revealed he was an informant all along. It works, it's smart, and it allows different voices, just like how Karen would take over a bit here and there for Henry in Goodfellas.
Looking at its budget I'm surprised it only basically broke even, it seems to fill that medium budget thriller genre.
Two thumbs up.
Thanks, Obama!