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On tv networks, they're not always the formula for streaming and the ones which do do this (like on Netflix and Hulu) are already airing weekly on tv. CBS still needs to figure out streaming isn't shooting tv shows 1 = 1. If they wanted to do this they should have kept it on a tv channel simultaneously.
I don't think it's at all possible that anything we've seen so far was produced after the show began airing; I can't imagine any of these episodes go out the door with less than a couple months of postproduction work.
The language thing is one of these weird things that the show has decided, for whatever reason, to dig its feet into the ground and make a stand on principle for reasons that completely elude me. The universal translator, and the idea that aliens are actually speaking their own language and we're just hearing English, has been a core conceit of Star Trek since before the first pilot was even filmed and it's always just kind of passed unremarked-upon. It's never been a big deal.
But it feels iike the production team was terrified that that tacit understanding between show and audience wouldn't be shared in the year of our satan 2017, like if they just went with it they'd be opening themselves up to a bunch of nonsense internet critiques ("how do aliens know English? FAIL") and five-hour-long rant videos on Youtube by the Angry Shouting Fat Guy Who Pours Canola Oil On Himself While Fucking A Hole in the Drywall (he has 1.8 million subscribers!) so they subjected us to this really tortuous eight-episode process to make 100% sure we know ABSOLUTELY WITHOUT A DOUBT that Klingons are actually speaking Klingon.
But if that means this is done now and we can move on in a shared spirit of just letting the aliens speak English so the story can move along at a better clip, fine. Fine.
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They read this thread then for sure.
Agreed on Mid Season Breaks for stream-only shows being very strange.
Curious that the (speculative but basically confirmed via imdb)
This episode was completed way before there was any complaining. If they make any changes to the show due to complaints you won't see them until season 2.
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Lorca was the only survivor from his previous ship, a very strange thing to happen to a Captain. He's also weirdly possessive of Burnham. There's something more to this, and she's them key to helping him.
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I thought the mid-season break was to allow the show to catch up with production, as in the last episodes were still not done (not sure if not filmed or just still in post-production) when the show premiered.
Sure, but streaming is not beholden to the traditional TV scheduling, so production could have been allowed to finish before release, or this first section could have been released as the first series rather than first half and so on. It's just strange is all to not take advantage of the format.
With the ties to CBS's streaming service and desire to air the first episode during the regular season, I wouldn't be shocked if there were other factors at play in when the show premiered.
Oh man, can you imagine getting all the actors back just to re-shoot those scenes, then dragging in all of the voice actors to do the dubbing in the four extra languages on netflix?
Plus having to get it all done and edited within 4-6 weeks?
Or maybe they thought it would be cool to hear the Klingon language, just like it's cool to hear Dothraki or Valerian or what have you in Game of Thrones. I'm pretty sure that's more likely than what you suggest.
I'm sorry some people in this thread really don't like it, but I like it. I've read the complaints here that it's slow, but I don't think it actually is, I think you can just read faster than people speak.
Also I wouldn't get your hopes up that this was some turning point in how they portray aliens speaking to each other. The only reason this was done this episode was because Burnham had a universal translator with her.
Happy coincidence the Admiral was there, but they didn't know that. The entire plan died the second they said "shields down". Morons.
And time to replace your security chief it seems.
I'm not trying to be a dick, but were you paying attention while you watched this?
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Vindication :P (I still should have caught the rest of it...)
Are there no shields in Discovery? Because shields, as a rule, prevent transporting. Though so do things like various kinds of ionization, strong energy fields, exotic materials, and every now and then a planet just being in a bad mood and not wanting visitors. Not to mention the issues with time travel, alternate universes, and the damn pattern buffers.
Would you really want to be that ship that tried to transport a photon torpedo onto a Klingon ship but gets the torpedo's dark universe evil duplicate from the future by mistake and it takes over the Klingon empire using its power and foreknowledge, making them a more formidable foe than ever?
And of course Starfleet can't keep the ability to see the cloaked ships just like the spore drive, so they're cheating!
It was basically a sniper rifle that could shoot through walls by transporting a projectile in front of the victim.
To use the situation that directly inspired cloak, you might as well ask why destroyers in WW2 didn't instantly start launching depth charges in the direction of any incoming torpedoes - in theory, you have his exact distance and bearing at that instant, right? Except it doesn't quite work like that, because the "sensors" aren't actually that exact (and torpedo ranges are longer than transporter depth-charge range); plus the destroyer crew is suddenly kind of busy, and if the sub captain had any sense, he'd wait for them to not be at full combat readiness, and/or try to avoid contact with the escorts entirely and pick off the freighters they were in convoy with, then run for it. When they knew a destroyer was actively hunting for them, the smart thing was to be somewhere else - which is what they were about to do, until Burnham offered herself as a distraction to keep them from warping out.
In short, while there are certainly tactical uses for a cloak once the engagement has already started, the main one (as the King notes below) is to be able to set an ambush, make the engagement happen at the moment of your choosing, and do as much damage with the initial strike, then attempt to break contact and reestablish cloak, either to escape or to set up another ambush (which gets a lot harder just because they know you're (probably) out there, where before they had no idea or, at best, only suspected). This should be familiar to anyone who's ever been ganked by a rogue.
The Klingons attack a base with two ships. Starfleet sends two ships. When they arrive, five more Klingon ships decloak. The Starfleet ships can't lower their shields to use the transporters or they'll get blown apart by the two Klingon ships already attacking.
They also inferior ships with cloaks against the Defiant in DS9. Two Klingon ships would engage the Defiant. One ship would cloak to maneuver while one ship would keep on the attack to prevent the Defiant from targeting the cloaking ship.