It's Steven's Universe, We All Just Live in It

Alucard6986

durax wrote: »

Beta and Earthlings were both fantastic and blew my socks off.

I do wonder

If Stevens scratch is going to turn into something more...

yeah was sorta wondering about that...

but it probably takes more than physical contact to catch corruption, I mean they've been up close and personal with the corrupted gems plenty of times. They weren't fused with them like Jasper tried.

Enlong

masterofmetroid wrote: »

durax wrote: »

Beta and Earthlings were both fantastic and blew my socks off.

I do wonder

If Stevens scratch is going to turn into something more...

Shit they did linger on that shot a little

Maybe they will have to find how to decorrupt gems fast

I doubt it.

Corruption is an ailment of the mind, not the body. If it could be spread by physical trauma, it certainly would've come up before now, what with all the battles against corrupted beasts.

Javen

Yeah I definitely see

Steven figuring out how to heal corruption and healing Jasper, Jasper having a total crisis of identity by Steven helping a defeated enemy etc

I can see redemption happening, but not joining the crystal gems.

The Geek

THAT'S RIGHT, BEST GEM PERIDOT

IS THE ONE THAT POOFS JASPER

masterofmetroid

That's a fair point

Maybe Jasper being halfway through the process changes things? Or it could be nothing.

Enlong

Man, I'd rather see

Bismuth return and become a full time member, rather than Jasper. If I had to choose one.

Depending on what happened with Pink Diamond, and when, I imagine that could factor into a potential Bismuth return.

Alucard6986

Dark Raven X wrote: »

SCREECH OF THE FARG wrote: »

jasper will obviously come back in the not too far future

maybe if you are viewing it from the perspective of the characters it doesn't seem like that, but if you view it from the perspective of people making a show its different

she's been getting more and more focus, she's been showing up in promotional materials, we are just starting to get background information on her, she has interesting relations to multiple characters that are ripe for exploring (the jasper/amethyst rivalry thing, her relation to rose, her deal with lapis, the confusion she feels about fusion)

plus she would nicely round out the homeworld gem number to 3 to match the crystal gems

also her VA was fantastic these past few episodes, and her arc hasn't come to any sort of conclusion

in conclusion jasperdemption is real, wail and gnash your teeth while you can, blame yourself or god

Earthlings

for sure, Jasper probably going nowhere, but this feels like a game changer. I've never been great at guessing where the plot in this show will go to, but the idea that the only real clear and present danger would get corrupted kinda came out of nowhere. Assuming Yellow Diamond is endgame, Jasper was kind of 'it' for the foreseeable future.

Course, the Rubies are back, and they all about finding Jasper. Probably gonna unleash her...

Hey speaking of them, anyone think it weird that Jasper is the target of the Rubies? Peridot seemed to outrank her (she speaks about Jasper being assigned to her in the distress call) so the mission failing is her fault, plus she was openly insubordinate to Yellow D. Yet she's unimportant to the Rubies, and they just want the muscle. Wassup with that?

I think as far as the hierarchy goes, peridot's mission to check on the cluster was the priority, jasper was just the muscle. The rubies themselves are just frontline grunt soldiers, so they report directly to jasper most likely, and aren't involved with the cluster.

Wyvern

Dark Raven X wrote: »

SCREECH OF THE FARG wrote: »

jasper will obviously come back in the not too far future

maybe if you are viewing it from the perspective of the characters it doesn't seem like that, but if you view it from the perspective of people making a show its different

she's been getting more and more focus, she's been showing up in promotional materials, we are just starting to get background information on her, she has interesting relations to multiple characters that are ripe for exploring (the jasper/amethyst rivalry thing, her relation to rose, her deal with lapis, the confusion she feels about fusion)

plus she would nicely round out the homeworld gem number to 3 to match the crystal gems

also her VA was fantastic these past few episodes, and her arc hasn't come to any sort of conclusion

in conclusion jasperdemption is real, wail and gnash your teeth while you can, blame yourself or god

Hey speaking of them, anyone think it weird that Jasper is the target of the Rubies? Peridot seemed to outrank her (she speaks about Jasper being assigned to her in the distress call) so the mission failing is her fault, plus she was openly insubordinate to Yellow D. Yet she's unimportant to the Rubies, and they just want the muscle. Wassup with that?

You do realize that this is the the same Peridot who proclaimed herself the leader of the Crystal Gems, right?

And anyway, Jasper is an elite warrior who served in the rebellion. She probably would have been considered massively more valuable than Peridot even before Peridot betrayed Yellow Diamond.

Speed Racer

I thought the lingering shot was because

It looks for a moment like Jasper might've hit Steven in the gem

Enlong

Speed Racer wrote: »

I thought the lingering shot was because

It looks for a moment like Jasper might've hit Steven in the gem

Or that he might be seriously bleeding. On first watch, I figured that was the case, and Steven had to use his prepped heal on himself.

Alucard6986

Enlong wrote: »

Man, I'd rather see

Bismuth return and become a full time member, rather than Jasper. If I had to choose one.

Depending on what happened with Pink Diamond, and when, I imagine that could factor into a potential Bismuth return.

bismuth, like a lot of the other guest star gems in the show, has a busier actor (uzu adoba) than jasper (kimberly brooks, who's mostly just a voice actor). By simple economics the guest stars going to be in less episodes than the rest of the cast. See also natasha lyonne (smoky quartz), patti lupone (yellow diamond), nikki minage (sugilite)

Wyvern

Javen wrote: »

Yeah I definitely see

Steven figuring out how to heal corruption and healing Jasper, Jasper having a total crisis of identity by Steven helping a defeated enemy etc

I can see redemption happening, but not joining the crystal gems.

I certainly don't see it going down that way, at least not that fast.

Steven already TRIED helping Jasper as a defeated enemy. She was disgusted by it on principle, to the point that I'd say she sees what Rose did to the Crystal Gems as a worse kind of corruption than what happened to her.

Charmy

Speed Racer wrote: »

I thought the lingering shot was because

It looks for a moment like Jasper might've hit Steven in the gem

I keep waiting for the episode where Steven gets poofed and has to reform.

It's going to happen and it's going to be rough.

Wyvern

Charmy wrote: »

Speed Racer wrote: »

I thought the lingering shot was because

It looks for a moment like Jasper might've hit Steven in the gem

I keep waiting for the episode where Steven gets poofed and has to reform.

It's going to happen and it's going to be rough.

I am 99.9% certain that he would just die like any other human if that happened. I think somebody from the show even said so on Twitter or something.

.

Dark Raven X

I don't think Steven can poof, he's made of meat, not light. But then by that logic, he and Stevonnie shouldn't be able to fuse either...

SCREECH OF THE FARG

Alucard6986

Charmy wrote: »

Speed Racer wrote: »

I thought the lingering shot was because

It looks for a moment like Jasper might've hit Steven in the gem

I keep waiting for the episode where Steven gets poofed and has to reform.

It's going to happen and it's going to be rough.

his body is all flesh and blood, it's not a projection like pure gems

he can't poof, he'd be a bloody smear on the ground from some of the stuff that's taken out the crystal gems

masterofmetroid

Fuck

Would....would Rose reform if Steven died?

I'm going to say no because that'd be the worst thing that could happen

Charmy

Alucard6986 wrote: »

Charmy wrote: »

Speed Racer wrote: »

I thought the lingering shot was because

It looks for a moment like Jasper might've hit Steven in the gem

I keep waiting for the episode where Steven gets poofed and has to reform.

It's going to happen and it's going to be rough.

his body is all flesh and blood, it's not a projection like pure gems

he can't poof, he'd be a bloody smear on the ground from some of the stuff that's taken out the crystal gems

I feel like if Steven can fuse, he can probably poof. The rules for how his body works aren't 100% clear.

King Riptor

Charmy wrote: »

Speed Racer wrote: »

I thought the lingering shot was because

It looks for a moment like Jasper might've hit Steven in the gem

I keep waiting for the episode where Steven gets poofed and has to reform.

It's going to happen and it's going to be rough.

Uh

Word of god is he cant because he is more than just a gem

Speed Racer

King Riptor wrote: »

Charmy wrote: »

Speed Racer wrote: »

I thought the lingering shot was because

It looks for a moment like Jasper might've hit Steven in the gem

I keep waiting for the episode where Steven gets poofed and has to reform.

It's going to happen and it's going to be rough.

Uh

Word of god is he cant because he is more than just a gem

yeah but they haven't committed to that in the story so there's no reason they couldn't change their minds

Enlong

Alucard6986 wrote: »

Enlong wrote: »

Man, I'd rather see

Bismuth return and become a full time member, rather than Jasper. If I had to choose one.

Depending on what happened with Pink Diamond, and when, I imagine that could factor into a potential Bismuth return.

bismuth, like a lot of the other guest star gems in the show, has a busier actor (uzu adoba) than jasper (kimberly brooks, who's mostly just a voice actor). By simple economics the guest stars going to be in less episodes than the rest of the cast. See also natasha lyonne (smoky quartz), patti lupone (yellow diamond), nikki minage (sugilite)

Awww.

azith28

Yeah i mean back then, when he flat out didnt seem to be able to fuse with the gems..possible.

but now...he may be just meat but he just fused with a gem and hes fused with connie who has no ability to move or stretch her 'meat' like he does...the rules are out the window and it was a rule that could be changed.

Charmy

King Riptor wrote: »

Charmy wrote: »

Speed Racer wrote: »

I thought the lingering shot was because

It looks for a moment like Jasper might've hit Steven in the gem

I keep waiting for the episode where Steven gets poofed and has to reform.

It's going to happen and it's going to be rough.

Uh

Word of god is he cant because he is more than just a gem

Okay, well, that's one less thing I have to worry about then.

SCREECH OF THE FARG

said word of god is well known for 'confirming' things that turn out to be misdirects or just straight up lies, so take it with a grain of salt

King Riptor

Speed Racer wrote: »

King Riptor wrote: »

Charmy wrote: »

Speed Racer wrote: »

I thought the lingering shot was because

It looks for a moment like Jasper might've hit Steven in the gem

I keep waiting for the episode where Steven gets poofed and has to reform.

It's going to happen and it's going to be rough.

Uh

Word of god is he cant because he is more than just a gem

yeah but they haven't committed to that in the story so there's no reason they couldn't change their minds

they have though

The poof rods fromReturn/ jail break

Ms Dapper

King Riptor wrote: »

Charmy wrote: »

Speed Racer wrote: »

I thought the lingering shot was because

It looks for a moment like Jasper might've hit Steven in the gem

I keep waiting for the episode where Steven gets poofed and has to reform.

It's going to happen and it's going to be rough.

Uh

Word of god is he cant because he is more than just a gem

They actually show a bit of that in Earthlings

When they de-fuse Amethyst is light and Steven is physical.

Lasbrook

Out of context that looks horrifying.

Enlong

Meanwhile, Peridot's just doing her thing

SCREECH OF THE FARG

peridot is going to be kinda scary when she gets good at metal

The Geek

So wait, if Steven

and Pearl were to ever fuse, would it still make a Rainbow Quartz?

Indie Winter

earthlings theory

I'm still assuming Rose is Pink Diamond. So people think Rose killed Pink - well, people think a lot of things about Rose, and she's fine with them doing so; she's good at hiding the truth, and clearly does it plenty. It also doesn't gel with her healing powers: she's supposedly a quarts, designated to being a warrior. Now you could say "she could be a battlefield medic" but that doesn't work because a) your specialization is your specialization, you don't get to multi-class, and b) homeworld doesn't seem like the kind of place that would care about healing gems at any point, it strikes me as more of an ancillary power a diamond might have.

also, amethyst going "come here sis" when she bubbled jasper is tres emotionale

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TheySlashThem

The Geek wrote: »

So wait, if Steven

and Pearl were to ever fuse, would it still make a Rainbow Quartz?

that seems to be the implication, yes

also for earthlings

https://twitter.com/AmandaLafrenais/status/762855793397866497

Enlong

The Geek wrote: »

So wait, if Steven

and Pearl were to ever fuse, would it still make a Rainbow Quartz?

Yeah. "Smokey Quartz" seems to be the name Amethyst remembers as being her fusion with Rose Quartz. So the Pearl fusion would likely still be called "Rainbow Quartz"

Almost assuredly wouldn't look the same as the one from We Need To Talk, though.

Indie Winter wrote: »

earthlings theory

I'm still assuming Rose is Pink Diamond. So people think Rose killed Pink - well, people think a lot of things about Rose, and she's fine with them doing so; she's good at hiding the truth, and clearly does it plenty. It also doesn't gel with her healing powers: she's supposedly a quarts, designated to being a warrior. Now you could say "she could be a battlefield medic" but that doesn't work because a) your specialization is your specialization, you don't get to multi-class, and b) homeworld doesn't seem like the kind of place that would care about healing gems at any point, it strikes me as more of an ancillary power a diamond might have.

also, amethyst going "come here sis" when she bubbled jasper is tres emotionale

Why wouldn't a warrior with healing powers be considered useful? in a battle, keeping more soldiers on their feet, or having a single impossible-to-drop warrior, is an amazing advantage.

Goatmon

SCREECH OF THE FARG wrote: »

jasper will obviously come back in the not too far future

maybe if you are viewing it from the perspective of the characters it doesn't seem like that, but if you view it from the perspective of people making a show its different

she's been getting more and more focus, she's been showing up in promotional materials, we are just starting to get background information on her, she has interesting relations to multiple characters that are ripe for exploring (the jasper/amethyst rivalry thing, her relation to rose, her deal with lapis, the confusion she feels about fusion)

plus she would nicely round out the homeworld gem number to 3 to match the crystal gems

also her VA was fantastic these past few episodes, and her arc hasn't come to any sort of conclusion

in conclusion jasperdemption is real, wail and gnash your teeth while you can, blame yourself or god

I've been expecting it to go somewhere, considering we've never seen any villain with this much buildup except Peridot, up until now.

But unless Steven is supposed to figure out how to cure corruption really soon, her story is done for now.

King Riptor

The Geek wrote: »

So wait, if Steven

and Pearl were to ever fuse, would it still make a Rainbow Quartz?

Well we know Rose amd Amethyst fused in the past but Smoky seems to be newborn so to speak. So maybe not

Javen

I doubt pearl/steven would make rainbow quartz again. Spoky quartz had plenty of steven qualities and nothing of Rose really, so I imagine other fusions would be similar.

Indie Winter

Usefulness doesn't factor into this. The hierarchy comes before anything else, and the hierarchy requires specific assignment of roles for every gem. Every gem save the diamonds.

Enlong

Indie Winter wrote: »

Usefulness doesn't factor into this. The hierarchy comes before anything else, and the hierarchy requires specific assignment of roles for every gem. Every gem save the diamonds.

And healing powers make for an indomitable warrior. It is a boon in that role. I don't see the problem here.