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[Painting Miniatures] vs the unending tide of grey plastic

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  • valhalla130valhalla130 13 Dark Shield Perceives the GodsRegistered User regular
    I finished Lysander!

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  • ChrysisChrysis Registered User regular
    So I've got a Xiphon Interceptor and a Secret Weapon base + flight widget (AKA 12mm acrylic rod). Unfortunately the resin is too soft and shallow to hold the rod up without glue, especially given the geniuses at Forge World decided that the best place for a mounting point on the Xiphon is as far back as possible. So I'm thinking of driving a pin into it (specifically a nail) to give it a bit more support. The problem I'm having is where to put the pin. Towards the front of the base, towards the back, or maybe both. Any ideas?

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  • [Expletive deleted][Expletive deleted] The mediocre doctor NorwayRegistered User regular
    Chrysis wrote: »
    So I've got a Xiphon Interceptor and a Secret Weapon base + flight widget (AKA 12mm acrylic rod). Unfortunately the resin is too soft and shallow to hold the rod up without glue, especially given the geniuses at Forge World decided that the best place for a mounting point on the Xiphon is as far back as possible. So I'm thinking of driving a pin into it (specifically a nail) to give it a bit more support. The problem I'm having is where to put the pin. Towards the front of the base, towards the back, or maybe both. Any ideas?

    Center of mass of the interceptor should, if possible, be directly above the center of the base. That ought to maximize the stability of the model.

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  • ChrysisChrysis Registered User regular
    Chrysis wrote: »
    So I've got a Xiphon Interceptor and a Secret Weapon base + flight widget (AKA 12mm acrylic rod). Unfortunately the resin is too soft and shallow to hold the rod up without glue, especially given the geniuses at Forge World decided that the best place for a mounting point on the Xiphon is as far back as possible. So I'm thinking of driving a pin into it (specifically a nail) to give it a bit more support. The problem I'm having is where to put the pin. Towards the front of the base, towards the back, or maybe both. Any ideas?

    Center of mass of the interceptor should, if possible, be directly above the center of the base. That ought to maximize the stability of the model.

    Not possible because I fucked up and ordered the base pre-drilled. The rod is dead center of the base, so the centre of mass is towards the front. Should I pin towards the front (which I'm leaning towards) to have the weight pull the rod onto the pin, or towards the rear where the rod is pivoting out of it's tiny hole.

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  • honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    I've reached a critical point painting the elf union team.

    What colours for the sneakers without making them the most eyedrawing part of the models while still being appropriately foppish sports star looking.

  • BadablackBadablack Registered User regular
    I thought your kicks were supposed to be the most eye drawing part of the outfit.

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  • honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    Badablack wrote: »
    I thought your kicks were supposed to be the most eye drawing part of the outfit.

    Well yeah, but after one or two tries I can tell it just looks weird with a heroic sculpt style miniature the feet look huge when the rest of the model isn't as garish.

  • NipsNips Luxuriating in existential crisis.Registered User regular
    honovere wrote: »
    Badablack wrote: »
    I thought your kicks were supposed to be the most eye drawing part of the outfit.

    Well yeah, but after one or two tries I can tell it just looks weird with a heroic sculpt style miniature the feet look huge when the rest of the model isn't as garish.

    Well there's your problem! Time to NASCAR up their uniforms, then.

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  • DiannaoChongDiannaoChong Registered User regular
    Nips wrote: »
    honovere wrote: »
    Badablack wrote: »
    I thought your kicks were supposed to be the most eye drawing part of the outfit.

    Well yeah, but after one or two tries I can tell it just looks weird with a heroic sculpt style miniature the feet look huge when the rest of the model isn't as garish.

    Well there's your problem! Time to NASCAR up their uniforms, then.

    *race car pulls into pit row*
    *elf driver lifts his visor and sips a drink as 5 orcs dash out to change tires, one lifts the car while the 4 others rip tires off the car and forcibly shove new ones on*
    *orc lifting the car yells GOOD TA GOOOOOOOOOOOOO as he shoves the vehicle off to a start so hard it goes careening into a wall and explodes*
    *orc pit team high fives another good job done*

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  • honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    40k Bike racing game could be fun.

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  • [Expletive deleted][Expletive deleted] The mediocre doctor NorwayRegistered User regular
    Now this is podracing!

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  • Mr_RoseMr_Rose 83 Blue Ridge Protects the Holy Registered User regular
    Well, they are allegedly re-releasing GorkaMorka as part of the revived Specialist Games inintiative, eventually…

    ...because dragons are AWESOME! That's why.
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  • ShinyRedKnightShinyRedKnight Registered User regular
    Does anyone have general guidance on using tufts? May be I’m overthinking it, but I’m wondering a lot about the quantity and positioning on a 32mm GW base. I’m worried that too many will drown the miniature, but too few will make the tufts stand out too sharply.

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  • valhalla130valhalla130 13 Dark Shield Perceives the GodsRegistered User regular
    I generally try to keep it to 2 to 3 small to medium size ones on a single fig. I have a third of a sheet of the Middenheim tufts from GW I'm not using because they're too big. I will probably try to use them on my knight.

    I actually just purchased some model train tufts that are a little darker, but pretty good quality. Ive been using the smaller ones to continue the troops. It's miniNatur Silflor.

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  • VikingViking Registered User regular
    2 to 3 smaller tufts per 32mm base is what I have been using on my Deathguard and I am really happy with the balance.

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  • BadablackBadablack Registered User regular
    I bought a pack of tufts years ago but I don’t think I’ve ever used them for anything but big gross hairs on those Nurgle fly daemons.

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  • SmokeStacksSmokeStacks The Myth, the Legend, the Bowman, the Shambler FuckerRegistered User regular
    I have GW Middenland tufts. You can very lightly drybrush them if you want to goof around with their colors a little bit. I drybrushed screamer pink to the tips of the ones I used on my Ork bases to make them look a little different/more alien with some extra color on the bases, and I added some black to the ones on my Legion of the Damned bases so they would look slightly scorched from the Legionnaires walking near them.

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  • BrainleechBrainleech Registered User regular
    It's so annoying that with the constant wind for the last 6 weeks I want to paint but alas I cannot not {I just have the primer it's the only thing holding me back] and I do not want to primer in the house I am not that desperate.

  • KoregKoreg Registered User regular
    I've been using the Vallejo primer that you paint on. It's lovely.

    On the note of White/Black, has anyone ever painted a model where they reversed highlight/shadow? Where they highlight the crevices and shadow the edges? I'm mainly curious to see what that effect looks like as I want to do Flamers, but I don't want them to look like flame.

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  • BrainleechBrainleech Registered User regular
    Koreg wrote: »
    I've been using the Vallejo primer that you paint on. It's lovely.

    On the note of White/Black, has anyone ever painted a model where they reversed highlight/shadow? Where they highlight the crevices and shadow the edges? I'm mainly curious to see what that effect looks like as I want to do Flamers, but I don't want them to look like flame.

    Yes but I could show you with bad pics since I lack a phone right now

  • bobAkirafettbobAkirafett Registered User regular
    Koreg wrote: »

    On the note of White/Black, has anyone ever painted a model where they reversed highlight/shadow? Where they highlight the crevices and shadow the edges? I'm mainly curious to see what that effect looks like as I want to do Flamers, but I don't want them to look like flame.

    Man I've been wondering that for the longest time. Like some kind of warp effect lighting situation or something.

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  • JJ Rabbit GangmemberRegistered User regular
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  • BadablackBadablack Registered User regular
    Koreg wrote: »
    I've been using the Vallejo primer that you paint on. It's lovely.

    On the note of White/Black, has anyone ever painted a model where they reversed highlight/shadow? Where they highlight the crevices and shadow the edges? I'm mainly curious to see what that effect looks like as I want to do Flamers, but I don't want them to look like flame.

    I had some daemons I did something sorta similar on. Primed white, then spray zenithal’d them with black primer so it was still white in the crevices, then glazed it all blue. It looked pretty neat, some dark edge highlighting (highblacking?) would probably have worked well too.

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  • KoregKoreg Registered User regular
    Badablack wrote: »
    Koreg wrote: »
    I've been using the Vallejo primer that you paint on. It's lovely.

    On the note of White/Black, has anyone ever painted a model where they reversed highlight/shadow? Where they highlight the crevices and shadow the edges? I'm mainly curious to see what that effect looks like as I want to do Flamers, but I don't want them to look like flame.

    I had some daemons I did something sorta similar on. Primed white, then spray zenithal’d them with black primer so it was still white in the crevices, then glazed it all blue. It looked pretty neat, some dark edge highlighting (highblacking?) would probably have worked well too.

    That's what I was thinking. Or if there's a lot of movement to the model to gently switch back and forth between standard and reverse highlight/shadowing to make it look even more warped than normal.

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  • Dr_KeenbeanDr_Keenbean Dumb as a butt Planet Express ShipRegistered User regular
    Koreg wrote: »
    I've been using the Vallejo primer that you paint on. It's lovely.

    On the note of White/Black, has anyone ever painted a model where they reversed highlight/shadow? Where they highlight the crevices and shadow the edges? I'm mainly curious to see what that effect looks like as I want to do Flamers, but I don't want them to look like flame.

    This is generally how one does any sort of lava monster; like a Balrog.

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  • JJ Rabbit GangmemberRegistered User regular
    Dude, did you freehand that damn text?


    Just a decal. :snap:

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  • ArcticLancerArcticLancer Best served chilled. Registered User regular
    J wrote: »
    Dude, did you freehand that damn text?

    Just a decal. :snap:
    This is what I was hoping, because I would have shouted a few profanities in your direction otherwise. <3

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  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    J wrote: »
    Dude, did you freehand that damn text?


    Just a decal. :snap:

    But you applied the decal free hand, right?

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    Well except what see317 said. That guy's always wrong.
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  • Gabriel_PittGabriel_Pitt (effective against the Irish) Registered User regular
    Kneel wrote: »
    Glazes and shades run through an airbrush are great for tinting colours, just keep your psi low (like, 15).

    I gave this a shot today, and oh my lord, is it amazing for applying a wash evenly over a space marine, giving an excellent shade, but not with the kinda inconsistent and varied density that standard full model brush application gives you. It is the way and the light!

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  • MaydayMayday generation three hybrid Registered User regular
    Hmmm?? From my experience applying a wash through an airbrush produces a filter - it tints the color but doesn't provide the shading that a wash is supposed to.

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  • Gabriel_PittGabriel_Pitt (effective against the Irish) Registered User regular
    That's what I meant, I just did a poor job of explaining it.

  • BrainleechBrainleech Registered User regular
    No! it burns!

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  • Gabriel_PittGabriel_Pitt (effective against the Irish) Registered User regular
    ?

    What's wrong with the video - it looks like a pretty standard intro to color theory.

    Show me on the wheel where the bad pigment touched you. :biggrin:

    Is it because it's not Duncan?

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  • BrainleechBrainleech Registered User regular
    ?

    What's wrong with the video - it looks like a pretty standard intro to color theory.

    Show me on the wheel where the bad pigment touched you. :biggrin:

    Is it because it's not Duncan?

    I was making fun of it because they felt the need to talk about colour theory

  • BadablackBadablack Registered User regular
    Pfft, get outta here with these baseless theories. Come back when you’ve got some color law.

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  • DiannaoChongDiannaoChong Registered User regular
    edited May 3
    Brainleech wrote: »
    ?

    What's wrong with the video - it looks like a pretty standard intro to color theory.

    Show me on the wheel where the bad pigment touched you. :biggrin:

    Is it because it's not Duncan?

    I was making fun of it because they felt the need to talk about colour theory

    Eh not everyone took high school art class. I showed it to a friend who is new to the hobby just in case. But also let him know it's art and 'fuck da police.'

    Red/Green can turn up like christmas if you aren't careful and everything in media is orange/blue which is annoying unless you can find a way to get away with it.

    The bigger concern(at least moreso here) is not picking the colors of a local rival team, pro, college or (in my area) high school. Those people are the worst. "Oh so you're a fan of [x rival team]? [shittalking commences]" "No, I like skaven..."

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  • Dr_KeenbeanDr_Keenbean Dumb as a butt Planet Express ShipRegistered User regular
    What about my color hypothesis?

    That purple is usually the best answer.

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  • ExtreaminatusExtreaminatus Registered User regular
    I thought that was adopted into law?

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  • Gabriel_PittGabriel_Pitt (effective against the Irish) Registered User regular
    edited May 3
    Brainleech wrote: »
    ?

    What's wrong with the video - it looks like a pretty standard intro to color theory.

    Show me on the wheel where the bad pigment touched you. :biggrin:

    Is it because it's not Duncan?

    I was making fun of it because they felt the need to talk about colour theory

    A lot of gaming painters just pick up the brush and paint and get to work without any formal knowledge of colour theory and why it is that some colour schemes are really attractive, draw the eye, or just don't work. The fact that there's actually formal structure to colours like this can be a pretty big revelation - I didn't know anything about it until after I started playing Warhammer. It never got touched on during formal education.

    *edit*
    Wow, we're 102 pages deep into this thread? Time to retire the old gal!

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