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[Women's March on Washington] 100% peaceful march, millions participated, history made

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  • So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    dispatch.o wrote: »
    Well people at my work are already grumbling about how this won't change anything and Portland has decided to shut down Trimet downtown due to the disturbances possible during the protests.

    I work with a good number of well paid middle age white women. It's a little disappointing.

    Best of luck to the people who get out to the streets. Stay safe and sane.

    The route does not cross the bus thoroughfares but it will mess up traffic downtown for sure

    Again, this is not styled as a protest or intended to be a disturbance, unlike the impromptu marching that occurred after election day during dark nighttime hours (which was fucked up by idiot anarchists), this is a midday organized permitted march.

    Do they complain this hard about the Shamrock run?

  • dispatch.odispatch.o Registered User regular
    edited January 2017
    So It Goes wrote: »
    dispatch.o wrote: »
    Well people at my work are already grumbling about how this won't change anything and Portland has decided to shut down Trimet downtown due to the disturbances possible during the protests.

    I work with a good number of well paid middle age white women. It's a little disappointing.

    Best of luck to the people who get out to the streets. Stay safe and sane.

    The route does not cross the bus thoroughfares but it will mess up traffic downtown for sure

    Again, this is not styled as a protest or intended to be a disturbance, unlike the impromptu marching that occurred after election day during dark nighttime hours (which was fucked up by idiot anarchists), this is a midday organized permitted march.

    Do they complain this hard about the Shamrock run?

    They complain about everything political. I don't know if there's a meatsponge better primed to soak in bad information or advocate strongly for fuck you got mine.


    Edit:fixed post, GG phone.

    dispatch.o on
  • DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
    I made a thing a couple months ago, turns out other people had a similar idea. If anyone wants to use it or needs a bigger version let me know

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  • HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    To anyone who grumbles at you that protests don't do anything and change nothing: At the very, absolute least, it blocks off the opposing party's access to the claim that their ideas are popular.

    You are not popular. Your ideas are not popular. Depending on the turnout, protests can show that there is a good amount of the populace outside on a day where they could be lounging and watching Netflix. It's a visible expression of the unpopularity of your so-called popular ideas.

    Don't let their weaselly lawyers pick up that pathetic premise when they justify their actions. Turn out.

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  • dispatch.odispatch.o Registered User regular
    Hakkekage wrote: »
    To anyone who grumbles at you that protests don't do anything and change nothing: At the very, absolute least, it blocks off the opposing party's access to the claim that their ideas are popular.

    You are not popular. Your ideas are not popular. Depending on the turnout, protests can show that there is a good amount of the populace outside on a day where they could be lounging and watching Netflix. It's a visible expression of the unpopularity of your so-called popular ideas.

    Don't let their weaselly lawyers pick up that pathetic premise when they justify their actions. Turn out.

    I probably should have said something like that. I think I just said, "I don't think they need your permission to make a point."

    I'm pretty tired of being nice at this point.

  • So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    dispatch.o wrote: »
    Hakkekage wrote: »
    To anyone who grumbles at you that protests don't do anything and change nothing: At the very, absolute least, it blocks off the opposing party's access to the claim that their ideas are popular.

    You are not popular. Your ideas are not popular. Depending on the turnout, protests can show that there is a good amount of the populace outside on a day where they could be lounging and watching Netflix. It's a visible expression of the unpopularity of your so-called popular ideas.

    Don't let their weaselly lawyers pick up that pathetic premise when they justify their actions. Turn out.

    I probably should have said something like that. I think I just said, "I don't think they need your permission to make a point."

    I'm pretty tired of being nice at this point.

    They sound very tiresome, sorry you have to deal with that

  • SpaffySpaffy Fuck the Zero Registered User regular
    I'm coming up blank for sign ideas. Writing copy is normally my forté, but there's just so much I want to say.

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    It sounds like there was something of skirmish between protestors and police outside the press club last night. Most of the reporting is from RT-aligned sources, though. So it could have been Black Flags or completely bullshit.

    Be careful out there if you're going to the flagship march. Some degree of precaution is probably warranted, just in case someone does something stupid.

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  • jdarksunjdarksun Struggler CORegistered User regular
    My wife and I are going to the march in DC. Am happy to meet up with folk.

  • CelestialBadgerCelestialBadger Registered User regular
    I don't think the women's march is going to get violent. I know a lot of folks going and they are all white women above 30. If Trump sends the water cannons and pepper spray out against moms he's not going to be popular.

  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited January 2017
    I hope you're right

    Fencingsax on
  • The EnderThe Ender Registered User regular
    I don't think the women's march is going to get violent. I know a lot of folks going and they are all white women above 30. If Trump sends the water cannons and pepper spray out against moms he's not going to be popular.

    It is not Trump, the police or the protestors I would be worried about; there is going to be a large cohort of white supremacists at the inauguration. These people were overtly violent during the campaign, and it is more or less the one consistent tradition among Neo Nazis to be violent assholes in the face of any public demonstration.

    Those folks that work in & browse through all of the off-Broadway Nazi bookstores? They'll probably be in the rally crowd, and best you believe that they will be either starting shit or trying to get you to.

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  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    For those of us in DC they will be handing out this posters at the metro stops if you cannot bring your own or forget to. Some good art and such.

    http://www.theverge.com/2017/1/18/14310510/trump-inauguration-protest-posters-washington-post-shepard-fairey

    They are based off a kickstarter but due to the no kickstarter rule I won't link it but there is a link in the article. They do have a full page ad in the WashPo today as well with the "We the People are Greater than Fear" poster.

    Tomorrow in DC will be in the low 50's and dry. Remember no backpacks so plan to carry your water and stuff accordingly.

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    I don't think the women's march is going to get violent. I know a lot of folks going and they are all white women above 30. If Trump sends the water cannons and pepper spray out against moms he's not going to be popular.

    I doubt a bunch of grandmas are going to start anything, and I likewise doubt that the police are looking to teargas a bunch of grandmas.

    But there's always a certain percentage of people at these protests that are just looking to start shit for some reason, and we are inagurating the chosen candidate of internet trolls and people who think false flag operations are a common occurance.

    Basically, just be careful and cooperative unless it becomes completely impossible to do so. And have a plan among those you came with just in case it all goes to shit. But that's just general mass protest advice.

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  • tbloxhamtbloxham Registered User regular
    edited January 2017
    Wrong thread

    tbloxham on
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  • Giggles_FunsworthGiggles_Funsworth Blight on Discourse Bay Area SprawlRegistered User regular
    I haven't had time to make a comprehensive OpSec thread yet, but most of what I have to say has been written up by my friend Elle, and is good advice for tomorrow.

    OPSEC for Activists (Part 1)


    OPSEC for Activists, Part 2: Packing for a Protest

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  • HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    I haven't had time to make a comprehensive OpSec thread yet, but most of what I have to say has been written up by my friend Elle, and is good advice for tomorrow.

    OPSEC for Activists (Part 1)


    OPSEC for Activists, Part 2: Packing for a Protest

    Ok. Dudes. Take whatever is feasible in any of these recommendations into account but do not think any of this is required or likely, please, particularly if you decide not to go because you think the only people who can protest are hardcore activist hackers with Watch Dogs rigs and martial arts skills.

    Like, be cautious, practice common sense, if you sense trouble, just gtfo.

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  • mRahmanimRahmani DetroitRegistered User regular
    I'm aiming to hit the sister March in Lansing tomorrow. Any PA Michiganders interested are welcome to PM me.

  • Giggles_FunsworthGiggles_Funsworth Blight on Discourse Bay Area SprawlRegistered User regular
    Hakkekage wrote: »
    I haven't had time to make a comprehensive OpSec thread yet, but most of what I have to say has been written up by my friend Elle, and is good advice for tomorrow.

    OPSEC for Activists (Part 1)


    OPSEC for Activists, Part 2: Packing for a Protest

    Ok. Dudes. Take whatever is feasible in any of these recommendations into account but do not think any of this is required or likely, please, particularly if you decide not to go because you think the only people who can protest are hardcore activist hackers with Watch Dogs rigs and martial arts skills.

    Like, be cautious, practice common sense, if you sense trouble, just gtfo.

    This was written in the context of Oakland, whose police are notably combative and corrupt and surveillance is straight ridiculous because of the DHS funded Watch Doge-esque Domain Awareness Center.

  • So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    For those of us in DC they will be handing out this posters at the metro stops if you cannot bring your own or forget to. Some good art and such.

    http://www.theverge.com/2017/1/18/14310510/trump-inauguration-protest-posters-washington-post-shepard-fairey

    They are based off a kickstarter but due to the no kickstarter rule I won't link it but there is a link in the article. They do have a full page ad in the WashPo today as well with the "We the People are Greater than Fear" poster.

    Tomorrow in DC will be in the low 50's and dry. Remember no backpacks so plan to carry your water and stuff accordingly.

    If one of you in DC could snag a poster or two for me I would be eternally grateful.

  • TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    Spaffy wrote: »
    I'm coming up blank for sign ideas. Writing copy is normally my forté, but there's just so much I want to say.

    I liked "Not usually a sign guy but geez"

  • HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    So It Goes wrote: »
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    For those of us in DC they will be handing out this posters at the metro stops if you cannot bring your own or forget to. Some good art and such.

    http://www.theverge.com/2017/1/18/14310510/trump-inauguration-protest-posters-washington-post-shepard-fairey

    They are based off a kickstarter but due to the no kickstarter rule I won't link it but there is a link in the article. They do have a full page ad in the WashPo today as well with the "We the People are Greater than Fear" poster.

    Tomorrow in DC will be in the low 50's and dry. Remember no backpacks so plan to carry your water and stuff accordingly.

    If one of you in DC could snag a poster or two for me I would be eternally grateful.

    I'll try but I have a feeling they will be in short supply.

    re: Signage: I'm not going to have a lot of time to physically craft one so I'll probably just write, as clearly as I can, WORDS HAVE MEANING too, @kedinik

    It feels like an appropriate distillation of our present reign of entropy

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  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    So It Goes wrote: »
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    For those of us in DC they will be handing out this posters at the metro stops if you cannot bring your own or forget to. Some good art and such.

    http://www.theverge.com/2017/1/18/14310510/trump-inauguration-protest-posters-washington-post-shepard-fairey

    They are based off a kickstarter but due to the no kickstarter rule I won't link it but there is a link in the article. They do have a full page ad in the WashPo today as well with the "We the People are Greater than Fear" poster.

    Tomorrow in DC will be in the low 50's and dry. Remember no backpacks so plan to carry your water and stuff accordingly.

    If one of you in DC could snag a poster or two for me I would be eternally grateful.

    I gotcha covered. I'll be at the metro early.

  • HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    Quid wrote: »
    So It Goes wrote: »
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    For those of us in DC they will be handing out this posters at the metro stops if you cannot bring your own or forget to. Some good art and such.

    http://www.theverge.com/2017/1/18/14310510/trump-inauguration-protest-posters-washington-post-shepard-fairey

    They are based off a kickstarter but due to the no kickstarter rule I won't link it but there is a link in the article. They do have a full page ad in the WashPo today as well with the "We the People are Greater than Fear" poster.

    Tomorrow in DC will be in the low 50's and dry. Remember no backpacks so plan to carry your water and stuff accordingly.

    If one of you in DC could snag a poster or two for me I would be eternally grateful.

    I gotcha covered. I'll be at the metro early.

    me too~~~

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    One of my favorite recent protest sign photos (I may have seen it around here, actually) was the 60 or so year old woman holding a sign that said "I can't believe I still have to protest against this shit".

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  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    I am going to try and grab at least a We Are Resilient sign for myself but if I can get any others I am happy to pass it around.

    I am sad the kickstarter is over. I would of paid $50 for all the prints.

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  • SyphonBlueSyphonBlue The studying beaver That beaver sure loves studying!Registered User regular
    Turns out Frederick IS putting together a march tomorrow (I couldn't find any info about it before), so we'll be at that one at least!

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  • So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    I've edited the second OP to add everyone who said they were going to a march, here is the list

    Let me know if you want to be added, if I've made a mistake, etc


    DC

    Hakkekage
    Quid
    Mazzyx
    adytum
    Surfpossum
    Calica
    Darkewolfe
    jdarksun

    PDX
    So It Goes

    Madison, WI
    Veevee

    Denver
    Deadfall

    Los Angeles
    Nija

    London
    Spaffy

    San Diego ?
    kedinik

    Toronto ?
    Forar

    Dublin, Ireland
    Desktop Hippie

    Atlanta
    QuantumTurk
    Elki

    Rochester NY
    OptimusZed

    Lansing, MI
    mRahmani


    Frederick, MD
    SyphonBlue

  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    SyphonBlue wrote: »
    Turns out Frederick IS putting together a march tomorrow (I couldn't find any info about it before), so we'll be at that one at least!

    You're in Frederick? Howdy neighborino

  • Lavender GoomsLavender Gooms Tiny Bat Registered User regular
    I'm probably going to go to the Seattle one with my mother. Last time she was at one of these it was for (against) the Vietnam War.

  • adytumadytum The Inevitable Rise And FallRegistered User regular
    FYI I was marching today and the Black Bloc (or similar organization) were out in force, but they were kept segregated from the main march. Security was on point and professional, keeping Trump supporters from starting fights (but not from coming into the march and trying to start seig heiling). I would expect tomorrow to be equally well run.

    There was massive amounts of teargas being fired a block away from the march, too, but I'm not sure what was happening there!

    Be safe everyone!

  • burboburbo Registered User regular
    I support the Women's March, because it's doing something instead of doing nothing, but I think state sponsored, rigidly enforced "peaceful" protesting is not very inclusive and not very effective. If the state has approved your action, it is not a protest, it is a parade. I'm glad if that helps keep people energized, engaged, and networked, but not really my bag, and it doesn't respect the diversity of tactics, instead only allowing the one the state prefers.

    Alternatively, I will be participating in protest today, J20, in PDX, that does purport to respect a diversity of tactis. I hope that others who's activism strays outside of the state sponsored methods can find one in their area too.

  • So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    edited January 2017
    burbo wrote: »
    I support the Women's March, because it's doing something instead of doing nothing, but I think state sponsored, rigidly enforced "peaceful" protesting is not very inclusive and not very effective. If the state has approved your action, it is not a protest, it is a parade. I'm glad if that helps keep people energized, engaged, and networked, but not really my bag, and it doesn't respect the diversity of tactics, instead only allowing the one the state prefers.

    Alternatively, I will be participating in protest today, J20, in PDX, that does purport to respect a diversity of tactis. I hope that others who's activism strays outside of the state sponsored methods can find one in their area too.

    can you explain more what you mean by diversity of tactics? and why you expect that any and all events must embrace a diversity of tactics instead of focusing down to one?

    what tactics are the Women's Marches not using that you want them to use? or are you mostly concerned that they received a permit and planned a route and are intending to stay as peaceful as possible?

    So It Goes on
  • PROXPROX Registered User regular
    edited January 2017
    So It Goes wrote: »
    burbo wrote: »
    I support the Women's March, because it's doing something instead of doing nothing, but I think state sponsored, rigidly enforced "peaceful" protesting is not very inclusive and not very effective. If the state has approved your action, it is not a protest, it is a parade. I'm glad if that helps keep people energized, engaged, and networked, but not really my bag, and it doesn't respect the diversity of tactics, instead only allowing the one the state prefers.

    Alternatively, I will be participating in protest today, J20, in PDX, that does purport to respect a diversity of tactis. I hope that others who's activism strays outside of the state sponsored methods can find one in their area too.

    can you explain more what you mean by diversity of tactics? and why you expect that any and all events must embrace a diversity of tactics instead of focusing down to one?

    what tactics are the Women's Marches not using that you want them to use? or are you mostly concerned that they received a permit and planned a route and are intending to stay as peaceful as possible?

    The nation's eyes are on these marches. We cannot associate them with destructive and violent anarchy. Social media and news outlets will blow these things way out of proportion and people who could have joined the cause will distance themselves from violent radicals. "Diverse Tactics" such as vandalism and threats will be weaponized against you to diminish the effectiveness and efforts of hundreds of thousands of women across the country. We need to be better then this. We need to be more responsible than this.


    PROX on
  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    Speaking as someone who has put more than his share of bricks through windows, a diversity of tactics isn't really what we need right now.

    We need one tactic; peaceful, public resistance.

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  • PROXPROX Registered User regular
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    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Speaking as someone who has put more than his share of bricks through windows, a diversity of tactics isn't really what we need right now.

    We need one tactic; peaceful, public resistance.

    Thank you for chiming up about this.

  • dispatch.odispatch.o Registered User regular
    edited January 2017
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Speaking as someone who has put more than his share of bricks through windows, a diversity of tactics isn't really what we need right now.

    We need one tactic; peaceful, public resistance.

    It's not necessary to go in breaking and disrupting via vandalism until they tell you that you can't march. I've little doubt that in a year or two a request to hold a gathering will be denied. That's when you have one anyway and prepare for the awful.

    Showing up to be heard in a healthy respectful manner needs to happen. Bricks maybe come later if at all. I think a lot of "cause heads" just enjoy the destruction and want the violence. This isn't the time.

    I'm looking forward to the stuff in PDX and DC even though I can't go, because watching others do what is right is inspiring. A lot of people need that inspiration after today. It's the right thing to do.


    Edit:

    So I guess my sincerest thanks to those who go.

    dispatch.o on
  • tbloxhamtbloxham Registered User regular
    PROX wrote: »
    So It Goes wrote: »
    burbo wrote: »
    I support the Women's March, because it's doing something instead of doing nothing, but I think state sponsored, rigidly enforced "peaceful" protesting is not very inclusive and not very effective. If the state has approved your action, it is not a protest, it is a parade. I'm glad if that helps keep people energized, engaged, and networked, but not really my bag, and it doesn't respect the diversity of tactics, instead only allowing the one the state prefers.

    Alternatively, I will be participating in protest today, J20, in PDX, that does purport to respect a diversity of tactis. I hope that others who's activism strays outside of the state sponsored methods can find one in their area too.

    can you explain more what you mean by diversity of tactics? and why you expect that any and all events must embrace a diversity of tactics instead of focusing down to one?

    what tactics are the Women's Marches not using that you want them to use? or are you mostly concerned that they received a permit and planned a route and are intending to stay as peaceful as possible?

    The nation's eyes are on these marches. We cannot associate them with destructive and violent anarchy. Social media and news outlets will blow these things way out of proportion and people who could have joined the cause will distance themselves from violent radicals. "Diverse Tactics" such as vandalism and threats will be weaponized against you to diminish the effectiveness and efforts of hundreds of thousands of women across the country. We need to be better then this. We need to be more responsible than this.


    Indeed, the only 'diverse tactics' which can be considered are things like sit down protests where passive resistance is used, economic action, or spoliering. If our side uses force, and they also use force, then all anyone learns is that 'the police protected themselves'. Just like any successful movement, if you wish to do more than just march, then go sit in front of a gate, or stage a hunger strike. Leave them to use force against your passivity.

    If you wish to do more than protest, but don't want to chain yourself to a fence, then donate money, time and support to liberal causes. If you don't have money, and feel the democrats are enormous underdogs in your district go encourage dissent within Republican circles. Go join a young Republicans group and make a nuisance of yourself. Be a massive protocol snob, demand that meetings don't start one second late, or finish one second early. Make every discussion about whether or not it is the right time and group of people to have that discussion. Create a massive structure of permission, bureaucracy and paperwork. Make the organization confusing and exclusionary to new members. Vote against anything that seems like it might be a good idea, and demand ideological purity in all things.

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  • So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    Poster pretty much ready

    I copied someone else's drawing of her and of course messed up the proportions, but hopefully you can tell who it is

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