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  • override367override367 ALL minions Registered User regular
    Shivahn wrote: »
    wazilla wrote: »
    Betsy DeVos seems like exactly the type that always wondered "If their schools are so bad why don't they just go to better ones?" without putting any effort into figuring out the answer.

    Now she's the Secretary of Education!

    Anything is possible, children.

    tbf I've never been more convinced that anyone could become president

    Well anyone terrible

    If you're a good person you actually have to be a good, motivating candidate that works really hard in the right places and can build a delicate coalition of disparate parties

  • SleepSleep Registered User regular
    Krieghund wrote: »
    Get ready to have the vast majority of schools become basically vocational schools from 6th grade up. We can't have business spending money on training people, that's the schools job now.

    Not gunna lie, a greater availability of vocational schools wouldn't be terrible.

    I went to vocational school.

  • RadiationRadiation Registered User regular
    KetBra wrote: »


    Looks like there may be some nomination problems incoming

    This seems like....maybe someone didn't pay someone else?
    Oh, I'm sorry, make contributions to the campaign?

    Like this guy is suddenly where your line is? Now you have problems with nominations? Not the other people?

    PSN: jfrofl
  • VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    he has connections to Chinese gov owned business or something I think? foreign policy is the main area republicans have balked, although they've often gotten over it.

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  • VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    Variable wrote: »
    he has connections to Chinese gov owned business or something I think? foreign policy is the main area republicans have balked, although they've often gotten over it.

    He also owes millions to a bank that is looking for waivers from the Labor Department, but that's for the corruption thread.

  • HacksawHacksaw J. Duggan Esq. Wrestler at LawRegistered User regular
    Dedwrekka wrote: »
    KetBra wrote: »


    Looks like there may be some nomination problems incoming

    Well, we've had multiple times where repub senators have said they won't support the nominees, and then they support them anyways. So until and unless they actually act on it, they can shove their playacting at being anything other than a party stooge up their ass.

    Edit: Collins and Murkowski actually seem to act on their assertions, the rest fall almost entirely along party lines regardless of what they say they're going to do, or how much they say they don't think candidates are qualified for the job.

    Yeah, until they actually put their votes where their "concerns and reservations" are, headlines like this are needless clickbait in my eyes.

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Hacksaw wrote: »
    Dedwrekka wrote: »
    KetBra wrote: »


    Looks like there may be some nomination problems incoming

    Well, we've had multiple times where repub senators have said they won't support the nominees, and then they support them anyways. So until and unless they actually act on it, they can shove their playacting at being anything other than a party stooge up their ass.

    Edit: Collins and Murkowski actually seem to act on their assertions, the rest fall almost entirely along party lines regardless of what they say they're going to do, or how much they say they don't think candidates are qualified for the job.

    Yeah, until they actually put their votes where their "concerns and reservations" are, headlines like this are needless clickbait in my eyes.

    Yeah Senate GOP is gutless until proven otherwise.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    pleasepaypreacher.net
  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    Sleep wrote: »
    Krieghund wrote: »
    Get ready to have the vast majority of schools become basically vocational schools from 6th grade up. We can't have business spending money on training people, that's the schools job now.

    Not gunna lie, a greater availability of vocational schools wouldn't be terrible.

    I went to vocational school.

    By choice or because some local company needed the cheap labour?

    You're muckin' with a G!

    Do not engage the Watermelons.
  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Variable wrote: »
    he has connections to Chinese gov owned business or something I think? foreign policy is the main area republicans have balked, although they've often gotten over it.

    Pretty sure that's Commerce. Puzder is just an all around vile human. Probably the second worst person in the proposed cabinet (Sessions) and probably more antithetical to the nature of his department than anyone, including DeVos and Sessions.

    The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
  • archivistkitsunearchivistkitsune Registered User regular
    The biggest step people can take to oppose DeVos's shitty agenda is to get involved in their local school board, local elections, state elections and the 2018 general election. Honestly, the two worst things people can do here is roll over or the even worse option of doing the thing she wants, but contributing to the home school movement. It's disgusting an incompetent moron like her go the job and she is going to do damage, but this is also an area where local involvement can shut a decent chunk of her's and Trump bullshit down.

    Also did anyone else noticed that the page linked ADA was taken down from the Department of Education page?

  • TNTrooperTNTrooper Registered User regular
    I think my local school board election is choose 3 from a list. You could probably get in just by having a normal white person name.

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  • davidsdurionsdavidsdurions Your Trusty Meatshield Panhandle NebraskaRegistered User regular
    Justice Department warned White House that Flynn could be vulnerable to Russian blackmail.

    How exciting for our country! Is Trump going to fire another Attorney General because he doesn't like what they have to say?

  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited February 2017
    Justice Department warned White House that Flynn could be vulnerable to Russian blackmail.

    How exciting for our country! Is Trump going to fire another Attorney General because he doesn't like what they have to say?

    Maybe if Trump keeps firing AGs every time they say anything Trump doesn't like, eventually the GOP will have to acknowledge tha- naw, can't finish the sentence

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  • Psychotic OnePsychotic One The Lord of No Pants Parts UnknownRegistered User regular
    The Secretary of Education doesn't know how percentages work


    Is this that new math thing I hear people talk about?

  • BurnageBurnage Registered User regular
    The Secretary of Education doesn't know how percentages work

    Is this that new math thing I hear people talk about?
    “If you believed news reports, you would think that the people supporting the President are in the minority, when in fact they’re forty per cent,” she said.

    Concluding her remarks, DeVos offered defiant words to those who are “actively trying to thwart” Trump’s agenda. “To you critics out there who think you’re in the majority, I have some advice for you,” she said. “Do the math.”

    I refuse to believe that this isn't satire.

  • HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    Psst--Borowitz Report is satire.

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  • Raiden333Raiden333 Registered User regular
    Burnage wrote: »
    The Secretary of Education doesn't know how percentages work

    Is this that new math thing I hear people talk about?
    “If you believed news reports, you would think that the people supporting the President are in the minority, when in fact they’re forty per cent,” she said.

    Concluding her remarks, DeVos offered defiant words to those who are “actively trying to thwart” Trump’s agenda. “To you critics out there who think you’re in the majority, I have some advice for you,” she said. “Do the math.”

    I refuse to believe that this isn't satire.

    Considering if you actually click the article it says "SATIRE FROM THE BOROWITZ REPORT" before it even says the title...

  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    The Secretary of Education doesn't know how percentages work


    Is this that new math thing I hear people talk about?

    I don't think that's real. The Borowitz Report is satire.

  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    Don't even need to click it:
    The Borowitz Report -- Not The News.

    You're muckin' with a G!

    Do not engage the Watermelons.
  • Wraith260Wraith260 Happiest Goomba! Registered User regular
    edited February 2017
    EDIT: n/m guess its satire then.

    Wraith260 on
  • davidsdurionsdavidsdurions Your Trusty Meatshield Panhandle NebraskaRegistered User regular
    Continuing our national drama where satire and reality are indistinguishable.

  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    It's also anti-humor.

    The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
  • Jebus314Jebus314 Registered User regular
    edited February 2017
    Hakkekage wrote: »
    Psst--Borowitz Report is satire.

    Man. Fake news outed in 1 post. It's almost like democrats still believe in regular facts.

    edit - It's like literally the quickest progression this could have made. Someone posts a fake news site (in this case satire so not malicious). Next person goes "that seems unlikely". Third person is like "yeah totally not a real news site". I mean, where are the 100,000 facebook likes? How can I send this to all of my conservative relatives now, and still pretend like it's totes legit?

    Jebus314 on
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  • SleepSleep Registered User regular
    Sleep wrote: »
    Krieghund wrote: »
    Get ready to have the vast majority of schools become basically vocational schools from 6th grade up. We can't have business spending money on training people, that's the schools job now.

    Not gunna lie, a greater availability of vocational schools wouldn't be terrible.

    I went to vocational school.

    By choice or because some local company needed the cheap labour?

    Choice. The locals school system was less than great, and I got to spend every two weeks working on computers rather than going to boring ass classes.

    It's why I could do binary and hex math ahead of everyone in my comp arch classes in college, and why I got through the first trimester of computer engineering without a fuckin problem.

    To be fair it's also why I nearly bombed out of the second trimester of computer engineering because I didn't know calc so didn't get that power is the area under the curve, and that calculus is the best way to get said area.

  • SleepSleep Registered User regular
    Justice Department warned White House that Flynn could be vulnerable to Russian blackmail.

    How exciting for our country! Is Trump going to fire another Attorney General because he doesn't like what they have to say?

    Yes

  • Mr KhanMr Khan Not Everyone WAHHHRegistered User regular
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    Sleep wrote: »
    Justice Department warned White House that Flynn could be vulnerable to Russian blackmail.

    How exciting for our country! Is Trump going to fire another Attorney General because he doesn't like what they have to say?

    Yes

    That was Yates who said that actually, so he's two weeks ahead of the game on that. GG Trump.

  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    Jebus314 wrote: »
    Hakkekage wrote: »
    Psst--Borowitz Report is satire.

    Man. Fake news outed in 1 post. It's almost like democrats still believe in regular facts.

    edit - It's like literally the quickest progression this could have made. Someone posts a fake news site (in this case satire so not malicious). Next person goes "that seems unlikely". Third person is like "yeah totally not a real news site". I mean, where are the 100,000 facebook likes? How can I send this to all of my conservative relatives now, and still pretend like it's totes legit?

    Dear Relatives:

    Fake News-Secretary of Education believes 40% is greater than half.

    Real News-Dozens of unvetted people watched and filmed a secure briefing involving the president.

    You're muckin' with a G!

    Do not engage the Watermelons.
  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    Everybody started saying "vetting" like two weeks ago. Everything is vetted, now. I'll go vet some coffee.

  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited February 2017
    Petraeus is a potential replacement for Flynn, and Trump is consulting the secretary of defense on replacement possibilities.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/13/us/politics/donald-trump-national-security-adviser-michael-flynn.html?smprod=nytcore-iphone&smid=nytcore-iphone-share
    In addition, the Army has been investigating whether Mr. Flynn received money from the Russian government during a trip he took to Moscow in 2015, according to two defense officials.

    Such a payment might violate the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution
    , which prohibits former military officers from receiving money from a foreign government without consent from Congress. The defense officials said there was no record that Mr. Flynn, a retired three-star Army general, filed the required paperwork for the trip.
    Still, current and former administration officials familiar with the call said the transcript was ambiguous enough that Mr. Trump could justify both firing or retaining Mr. Flynn.

    Mr. Trump, however, has become increasingly concerned about the continued fallout over Mr. Flynn’s behavior, according to people familiar with his thinking, and has told aides that the media storm around Mr. Flynn will damage the president’s image on national security issues.

    White House officials have begun discussing the possibility of replacements, and President Trump is consulting Jim Mattis, the secretary of defense and a retired four-star general. Among the options are David H. Petraeus, the former C.I.A. director, and Thomas P. Bossert, head of Mr. Trump’s domestic security council. Mr. Petraeus, a retired four-star general, was forced out as director of the C.I.A. because of an affair with his biographer, to whom he passed classified information. Mr. Petraeus would not need confirmation by the Senate as national security adviser.
    Mr. Flynn and Mr. Pence have spoken twice in the past few days about the matter, but administration officials said that rather than fully apologize and accept responsibility, the national security adviser blamed it on his faulty memory — which irked the typically slow-to-anger Mr. Pence.

    The slight was compounded by an incident late last year when Mr. Pence went on television to deny that Mr. Flynn’s son, who had posted conspiracy theories about Hillary Clinton on social media, had been given a security clearance by the transition team. The younger Mr. Flynn had, indeed, been given such a clearance, even though his father had told Mr. Pence’s team that he hadn’t.
    That is a really, really, really stupid replacement idea.

    Couscous on
  • Mr KhanMr Khan Not Everyone WAHHHRegistered User regular
    Can somebody who has provably violated security protocol in the past be re-authorized for high clearance, even as an appointment?

  • Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    edited February 2017
    Couscous wrote: »
    Petraeus is a potential replacement for Flynn, and Trump is consulting the secretary of defense on replacement possibilities.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/13/us/politics/donald-trump-national-security-adviser-michael-flynn.html?smprod=nytcore-iphone&smid=nytcore-iphone-share
    In addition, the Army has been investigating whether Mr. Flynn received money from the Russian government during a trip he took to Moscow in 2015, according to two defense officials.

    Such a payment might violate the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution
    , which prohibits former military officers from receiving money from a foreign government without consent from Congress. The defense officials said there was no record that Mr. Flynn, a retired three-star Army general, filed the required paperwork for the trip.
    Still, current and former administration officials familiar with the call said the transcript was ambiguous enough that Mr. Trump could justify both firing or retaining Mr. Flynn.

    Mr. Trump, however, has become increasingly concerned about the continued fallout over Mr. Flynn’s behavior, according to people familiar with his thinking, and has told aides that the media storm around Mr. Flynn will damage the president’s image on national security issues.

    White House officials have begun discussing the possibility of replacements, and President Trump is consulting Jim Mattis, the secretary of defense and a retired four-star general. Among the options are David H. Petraeus, the former C.I.A. director, and Thomas P. Bossert, head of Mr. Trump’s domestic security council. Mr. Petraeus, a retired four-star general, was forced out as director of the C.I.A. because of an affair with his biographer, to whom he passed classified information. Mr. Petraeus would not need confirmation by the Senate as national security adviser.
    Mr. Flynn and Mr. Pence have spoken twice in the past few days about the matter, but administration officials said that rather than fully apologize and accept responsibility, the national security adviser blamed it on his faulty memory — which irked the typically slow-to-anger Mr. Pence.

    The slight was compounded by an incident late last year when Mr. Pence went on television to deny that Mr. Flynn’s son, who had posted conspiracy theories about Hillary Clinton on social media, had been given a security clearance by the transition team. The younger Mr. Flynn had, indeed, been given such a clearance, even though his father had told Mr. Pence’s team that he hadn’t.
    That is a really, really, really stupid replacement idea.

    Fits right in with the rest of the cabinet picks, then, and administration policy in general.

    Commander Zoom on
  • SleepSleep Registered User regular
    Are You Fuckin Serious!?

  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Mr Khan wrote: »
    Can somebody who has provably violated security protocol in the past be re-authorized for high clearance, even as an appointment?

    I dunno, did Petraeus ever get a position?

  • Waffles or whateverWaffles or whatever Previously known as, I shit you not, "Waffen" Registered User regular
    Compared to the other numskulls that Trump could pick, I think I'll take my chances with Petraeus. Yeah, he had an affair, and leaked info to Paula Broadwell. But in comparison to the other idiots he can pick, I think he'd be the safest of picks.

  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited February 2017
    CNN International person:


    There is live coverage of it on CNN right now.

    Flynn has taken a while to be fired. This sort of garbage feels like it usually results in immediate resignation.

    Edit :

    Couscous on
  • VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    edited February 2017
    Edit - covered

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  • No-QuarterNo-Quarter Nothing To Fear But Fear ItselfRegistered User regular
    Hoooooooooooooooooooooooooly sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

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