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  • A Kobold's KoboldA Kobold's Kobold He/Him MississippiRegistered User regular
    Good morning. Got a long day ahead of me, so naturally I'm avoiding thinking about it.

    Switch Friend Code: SW-3011-6091-2364
  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    Sleep wrote: »
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    On the plane to Boston. Jet blue has a lot of leg room. But I am small so that might not be true for the giants among us.

    Nah it's definitely true. It's one of the only airlines I can fly on.

    You hitting the pre PAX board game night at the Westin tonight?

    Not sure. Deebs invited me to some possible board gaming but not sure where. I need to text him.

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  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    Echo wrote: »
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    Not that it stops nerds complaining. "These ships are so close together! Modern destroyers engage at longer ranges than that! UGH!" Okay, sure. What does a modern destroyer have to do with the situation on screen, though? What on earth makes you think a 70mm cannon going to penetrate Spacetanium, or get through the Void Fields? Did someone in the story say it could? I bet they didn't!

    Oh, I have absolutely no problems with what's going on in the show. Plenty of perfectly adequate explanations for why things happen like they do. Like in last episode:
    Ships are firing PDCs parked next to each other because they were parked next to each other in orbit around neutral territory.

    Oh, that wasn't directed at you. It's a general chip on my shoulder, and it's not even about sci-fi or space fights so much as I just wish people would take things at face value more instead of inventing holes to complain about.

  • BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    I am well aware of Bloodborne's excellent pedigree, but honestly I am enjoying NMS right now. Since I switched platforms I am making a conscious effort to play games differently, bimbling along rather than reading up on the most efficient way to clear achievements. NMS is immensely relaxing and full of lovely little moments that see me just standing still for a full minute watching a pair of giant green swans flap lazily through the sky overhead.

    When I get antsy I will pop in Bloodborne for the full helter-skelter of cliff-edge difficulty slashing action.

  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    Echo wrote: »
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    Not that it stops nerds complaining. "These ships are so close together! Modern destroyers engage at longer ranges than that! UGH!" Okay, sure. What does a modern destroyer have to do with the situation on screen, though? What on earth makes you think a 70mm cannon going to penetrate Spacetanium, or get through the Void Fields? Did someone in the story say it could? I bet they didn't!

    Oh, I have absolutely no problems with what's going on in the show. Plenty of perfectly adequate explanations for why things happen like they do. Like in last episode:
    Ships are firing PDCs parked next to each other because they were parked next to each other in orbit around neutral territory.

    Oh, that wasn't directed at you. It's a general chip on my shoulder, and it's not even about sci-fi or space fights so much as I just wish people would take things at face value more instead of inventing holes to complain about.

    But why didn't they take the Eagles to Mordor?

  • Kid PresentableKid Presentable Registered User regular
    Honk wrote: »
    Horizon is also the best.

    Though maybe NMS, Horizon and then Mass Effect in a row seems like a very great deal of harvesting things from various nodes.

    Node Fatigue is a serious issue facing today's beleaguered gamer class.

    Between that and ODing on tower climbing, gaming just isn't safe anymore.

    At least the towers in Horizon are giant robot dinosaurs walking around.

    And in Zelda, high ground is like intrinsically valuable and a deliberate rewarding mechanic so the towers are more than just a checklist item.

  • HonkHonk Honk is this poster. Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    In season 1 the fights in Expanse were mostly, nuclear missiles fired from 10000 kilometers away.

    So seems like an alright mix of stuff it they go more shootyshooty in season 2.

    PSN: Honkalot
  • YamiNoSenshiYamiNoSenshi A point called Z In the complex planeRegistered User regular
    SniperGuy wrote: »

    Oh man that's amazing. Definitely trying that later.

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    edited March 2017
    The Dread Empire's Fall books by Walter Jon Williams had actual submarines-in-space combat.

    The only FTL was Magic Wormholes, the rest was sub-FTL without antigravity/inertia handwaving. Acceleration could kill crews, it was all about intelligence and figuring out where the enemy would be and then blanket the area with nuclear torpedoes and have them cooked by the radiation rather than blowing them up with a direct hit.

    Echo on
  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    Well, I've done it. I've written the opera that will get me kicked out of Court.
    A night to remember

    The curtain rises. Everything is rather jolly to begin with. The young heroine is lovelorn, but everyone expects that. There are some piratical excesses and a few waifs succumb to consumption, but these things happen.

    And then the big aria. The heroine pleads for her lover's life with the pirate captain. It's heart-rending. Not a dry eye in the house. The pirate captain lifts his big axe and chops the fellow into gobbets. Butcher's offal spatters the front three rows. The audience howls with horror and outrage. The pirates howl with laughter. The princess loses her mind. A witch (the pirate captain in disguise!) promises to return her love to life, if she turns over her fortune. He runs off with the money, and the final curtain falls.

    The Empress doesn't have many actual soldiers at her disposal. But those few there are hunt you down. Of course, you're ahead of them. Off into the night with the Veteran Privy Counsellor.

  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    Something for the voyage

    "Well, you've done it now. I'd suggest heading out to the Elder Continent. I'm sure I can secure a position for you in the colonies. Provincial governor or somesuch. If that's not to your taste, I think you'll find very interesting things occurring at Mahogany Hall. I appreciate that music-hall is something of an insult after your works at Court. But... hm, I'd best not be specific. But – interesting things.

    "As I said, you won't be named Imperial Artist-in-Residence until the furore has died down. That may take some time. I assure you, however, that both the title and Versification House will come to you as matters allow. Now, don't you have a ship waiting? Here's a little something for the voyage."

    You may learn more about your Governorship upon returning to London.

  • Kid PresentableKid Presentable Registered User regular
    Something I read or heard on a podcast rang pretty true to me with regard to open world games recently. I believed in the concept of "open world fatigue", but that might have actually just been Assassin's Creed fatigue, or Ubisoft Fatigue, or just Lazy Large Map Design fatigue. Basically what was being asserted is that Open World is too broad of a term to define an entire genre these days, and that even within that framework there are good ways to design a game where a player climbs a tower and bad ways to do that. A large world full of icons was a good way to sell a game for a while so I think we saw a lot of half baked lazy executions of the concept, but Zelda (and to a lesser extent Horizons, as it's a bit more "traditional") I think prove it can still work.

  • Casual EddyCasual Eddy The Astral PlaneRegistered User regular
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    Echo wrote: »
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    Not that it stops nerds complaining. "These ships are so close together! Modern destroyers engage at longer ranges than that! UGH!" Okay, sure. What does a modern destroyer have to do with the situation on screen, though? What on earth makes you think a 70mm cannon going to penetrate Spacetanium, or get through the Void Fields? Did someone in the story say it could? I bet they didn't!

    Oh, I have absolutely no problems with what's going on in the show. Plenty of perfectly adequate explanations for why things happen like they do. Like in last episode:
    Ships are firing PDCs parked next to each other because they were parked next to each other in orbit around neutral territory.

    Oh, that wasn't directed at you. It's a general chip on my shoulder, and it's not even about sci-fi or space fights so much as I just wish people would take things at face value more instead of inventing holes to complain about.

    But why didn't they take the Eagles to Mordor?

    Eagles are racist towards hobbits

  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    Something I read or heard on a podcast rang pretty true to me with regard to open world games recently. I believed in the concept of "open world fatigue", but that might have actually just been Assassin's Creed fatigue, or Ubisoft Fatigue, or just Lazy Large Map Design fatigue. Basically what was being asserted is that Open World is too broad of a term to define an entire genre these days, and that even within that framework there are good ways to design a game where a player climbs a tower and bad ways to do that. A large world full of icons was a good way to sell a game for a while so I think we saw a lot of half baked lazy executions of the concept, but Zelda (and to a lesser extent Horizons, as it's a bit more "traditional") I think prove it can still work.

    I think like any other gameplay concept it's something that is going to get iterated on and improved on and I think it definitely has a future in gaming. Even Ubisoft will probably come around at some point. Although I hear Watch Dogs 2 was actually okay? So maybe they already have, idk.

  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    Were it just single-player, Wildlands would be your average competently made but nothing you haven't seen before 7/10 Ubisoft collectathon game.

    Going to play the crap out of it in multiplayer this weekend. What little I tried already raised it above the open world collectathon crowd.

  • Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo We are only now beginning to understand the full power and ramifications of sexual intercourse Registered User regular
    My bonus isn't disgracefully large but it's more than i expected. Hurray.

    Although the pay bump was pretty small. Not hurray.

    Although i should pay off my student loan soon which will increase my net cash per month. Hurray.

    Homogeneous distribution of your varieties of amuse-gueule
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  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    Decisions!

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  • ShivahnShivahn Unaware of her barrel shifter privilege Western coastal temptressRegistered User, Moderator mod
    I got a cheap nont-specific-miniature ruleset for a skirmish game (Advanced Song of Blade and Heroes).

    Someone donate me a playing arena and also all your miniatures pls.

  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    The problem with open world collectathons (also I love that this is becoming the established genre name) is that we're past the point where the game devs can just cut and paste the same 5-6 different types of activities/missions all over the place.

  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    @Donkey Kong
    Sword spoiler:
    The Master Sword changes everything.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    The protocollectathon that was Assassin's Creed 1 was weird that if you've done all the stuff, you're left with like 5/8 of a (long redundant) health upgrade.

  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    Also they need to fix the bullet physics in Wildlands because I'm convinced a helicopter flying in a straight line away from me can outrun the bullets.

  • amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    ::walks in, looks at everyone, nods, clicks heels together::

    morning...

    are YOU on the beer list?
  • syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products, Transition Team regular

    The protocollectathon that was Assassin's Creed 1 was weird that if you've done all the stuff, you're left with like 5/8 of a (long redundant) health upgrade.

    yeah, it was strange how they did it.

    But I made a point on my most recent playthrough to do the collectathon stuff in the city sections that opened up prior to killing the duder; broke up the monotony a bit and made the final fight hilariously simple.

    SW-4158-3990-6116
    Let's play Mario Kart or something...
  • SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    "Donkey Kong"
    Sword spoiler:
    The Master Sword changes everything.

    Hrm. I found it but can't get it yet. Weekend goal.

  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    syndalis wrote: »
    The protocollectathon that was Assassin's Creed 1 was weird that if you've done all the stuff, you're left with like 5/8 of a (long redundant) health upgrade.

    yeah, it was strange how they did it.

    But I made a point on my most recent playthrough to do the collectathon stuff in the city sections that opened up prior to killing the duder; broke up the monotony a bit and made the final fight hilariously simple.

    I could never sneak-kill anyone but the first target. They always spotted you and whoops gotta run through town and have a tedious swordfight.

  • Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo We are only now beginning to understand the full power and ramifications of sexual intercourse Registered User regular
    Echo wrote: »
    Also they need to fix the bullet physics in Wildlands because I'm convinced a helicopter flying in a straight line away from me can outrun the bullets.

    Just like real life

    Homogeneous distribution of your varieties of amuse-gueule
  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    Off to exile in the Tomb Colonies! One of my favorite things about this area is that all the writing suddenly becomes epistolary - your character sending notes to friends back home.
    Unorthodox technologies

    'Forgive me for committing this to paper, my dear, but I feel compelled to unburden myself. For special occasions, certain of these bandaged lunatics render their own body-fat into candles! "It's not as if we're giving up our bones," one of them pointed out. "We scent them with lilac," another explained. Scent them with lilac! Now perhaps you understand why I am so eager to return to London...'
    Causing a scene

    'A ghastly plop, and a spray of wine... I looked down and there was an eyeball floating in my wineglass. Just when one thinks one has suffered all the indignities Providence has to offer, she finds some new and monstrous device in her bag of wicked traps. I screamed, much to the amusement of the eye's owner...'

  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    Did Trump name it? I bet Trump named it.

  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    Echo wrote: »
    Did Trump name it? I bet Trump named it.


    Only evidence against this is "Trump" is nowhere in the name

  • So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    That's a different bill, echo

  • durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    The thing that strikes me about open-world stuff in general is whether or not there's any reason to traverse the map rather than teleport to the icons.

    Like I don't 100% avoid fast travel, but if there's nothing on the way from point A to point B that might strike my interest other than collectible widgets, shrink that map.

    We're all in this together
  • amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    It's just for advertising, that way he can legally say "we've got the world's greatest healthcare plan" and no one can technically argue it.

    are YOU on the beer list?
  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    It's just for advertising, that way he can legally say "we've got the world's greatest healthcare plan" and no one can technically argue it.

    *Eats a 100% Beef™ burger*

  • ShivahnShivahn Unaware of her barrel shifter privilege Western coastal temptressRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Echo wrote: »
    The problem with open world collectathons (also I love that this is becoming the established genre name) is that we're past the point where the game devs can just cut and paste the same 5-6 different types of activities/missions all over the place.

    They obviously need to mad lib it even more. With verbs and stuff now!

    Help! Hero! The princess requires you to kill a giant lizard outside of the northern province! On your way, pick up some milk. You can do it, Phillip J. Fry!

  • tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    Shivahn wrote: »
    Echo wrote: »
    The problem with open world collectathons (also I love that this is becoming the established genre name) is that we're past the point where the game devs can just cut and paste the same 5-6 different types of activities/missions all over the place.

    They obviously need to mad lib it even more. With verbs and stuff now!

    Help! Hero! The princess requires you to kill a giant lizard outside of the northern province! On your way, pick up some milk. You can do it, Phillip J. Fry!

    I'd play it

  • YamiNoSenshiYamiNoSenshi A point called Z In the complex planeRegistered User regular
  • SleepSleep Registered User regular
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    Sleep wrote: »
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    On the plane to Boston. Jet blue has a lot of leg room. But I am small so that might not be true for the giants among us.

    Nah it's definitely true. It's one of the only airlines I can fly on.

    You hitting the pre PAX board game night at the Westin tonight?

    Not sure. Deebs invited me to some possible board gaming but not sure where. I need to text him.

    Well I'm going to be down around the Westin this evening so if anyone's looking to play games that's where I'll be.

  • BeNarwhalBeNarwhal The Work Left Unfinished Registered User regular
    I've been running roughly 9 minutes behind schedule all morning

    Pausing to post this in [chat] is helping

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