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Here it is short and sweet: my Moto v551 doesn't cut it anymore, I am out of my contract but will probably go back to being with Cingular/AT&T if I get in one for a phone, and I am thinking of getting the Blackberry Pearl.
So what do you guys think? Any recommendation for or against a Pearl? Any recommendations for a phone in general? I have to admit to being behind the times on which phones are currently in the great choices category.
So all thoughts and advice would be helpful, thanks.
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ShadowfireVermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered Userregular
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Need more info... what exactly do you want to do with your phone? Do you want a smartphone/PDA? Do you want a music player? Or would you be happy with just a shit phone that will make calls?
A smartphone/PDA is pretty much a big plus and the area in which I would be looking into, a built-in music player is great but not nesscary. Mainly looking for a good reliaby phone that isn't an eye sore and has a well designed interface. One that can utilize wireless hotspots is major plus too.
Here it is short and sweet: my Moto v551 doesn't cut it anymore, I am out of my contract but will probably go back to being with Cingular/AT&T if I get in one for a phone, and I am thinking of getting the Blackberry Pearl.
So what do you guys think? Any recommendation for or against a Pearl? Any recommendations for a phone in general? I have to admit to being behind the times on which phones are currently in the great choices category.
So all thoughts and advice would be helpful, thanks.
Well, if you're really looking for the whole geek bling and are going back to Cingular, then wait till June and join the Cult of Steve - that seems to be the digerati consensus. Personally, I'd need more info before telling you which way to lean - what do you use your phone for, mainly?
Here it is short and sweet: my Moto v551 doesn't cut it anymore, I am out of my contract but will probably go back to being with Cingular/AT&T if I get in one for a phone, and I am thinking of getting the Blackberry Pearl.
So what do you guys think? Any recommendation for or against a Pearl? Any recommendations for a phone in general? I have to admit to being behind the times on which phones are currently in the great choices category.
So all thoughts and advice would be helpful, thanks.
Well, if you're really looking for the whole geek bling and are going back to Cingular, then wait till June and join the Cult of Steve - that seems to be the digerati consensus. Personally, I'd need more info before telling you which way to lean - what do you use your phone for, mainly?
Free to $100 maybe even $200, rigth now the PC I will be buildng is my priorty and thats why I would opt for the contract. And I don't really want to drink the Kool-aid and join the steve cult.
Online's doing Pearls for $99 right now, think it's good on upgrades so if you really want a Blackberry, there you go. It's after a $50 rebate, that you only get if you sign up for the $29.99 Blackberry data plan. You need to have that on your plan at least long enough for them to process your rebate (about 4 weeks) at which point you can cancel the feature. However, if you're getting a Blackberry you'd be stupid not to have it on there, as it's the whole reason for getting one. As a phone, the interface is incredibly unfriendly, the battery life is dismal, and the reception and sound qualtiy is average at best.
But as a data device, it's rather awesome.
The only way you're getting wi-fi is with the 8125 or 8525, which are expensive. The 8125 tends to be glitchy and is also discontinued. The 8525 is expensive, sexy, awesome, and expensive. But awesome. I'd have one if they weren't cracking down those of us with ANR accounts using the wrong features, now I'd pretty much have to foot the $40/month PDA Connect feature, which is just too much. Bastards.
If you don't absolutely need a full-bore HTML browser and the applicable $30+ data plan, get yourself a Sony Ericsson w810i. By far the best non-3G, non-PDA/smartphone device on Cingular. SE does so many little things right with a phone, and adds in enough cool features, that I can't recommend them highly enough as a brand. The browser is the best WAP browser I've ever used in terms of reliability and speed, though the screen is small for browsing compared to a V3xx or Sync.
If you really want a 3G device, the Blackjack isn't awful, but Windows Mobile 5.0 Smartphone Edition (way too long an OS name, there) is about ten times harder to use than the Pocket PC Edition. It makes doing simple things incredibly complex. Still it's packed with features and is reasonably speedy even when you have a few programs open. The V3xx has won me over into the "Motorola doesn't suck" camp, but you can't copy all phonebook entries to/from the SIM, which is just a retarded oversight on Motorola's part. It does most everything else alright, which I never thought I'd say about a Motorola in the years I've been selling phones.
I don't mean to hijack this thread but I'm looking for a fliptop that has bluetooth, good battery life, nice design and such.
Cingular, preferably.
It's a decidedly average phone, in my experience. Lots of features, but it's cheap for a reason. Reception and battery life aren't great, the screens are prone to breakage (a common problem on Samsungs, oddly), the music buttons on the front work when they decide to work. New UI from Samsung on it that's actually pretty cool, allows for a lot more customization and tinkering than the old UI they've used for the last 2-3 years with minor modifications. Adds a "copy all to SIM" function which has been sorely needed on Samsungs for ages. Some have it, most don't.
The V3xx or K1 (both have the new Motorola UI) are pretty similar for the same feature set. The K1 doesn't have 3G though, and is pricey (but looks nice). The LG CU400 is a solid mid-range phone (VGA cam, speakerphone, bluetooth) that adds 3G and feels like a high-range feature phone. The CU500 is almost exactly the same, but bumps the camera to 1.3MP, adds a microSD slot, MP3 player and music buttons on the front. Both are impressive for LGs, whose GSM phones tend to be the shittiest of the bunch. So saying that they're average is high praise.
Do you use the web browser much? Would you use it more if you had a 3G phone? Need music? That'll help narrow things down. I sell 'em for a living but I can't read minds.
So the Pearl is unwieldy as phone, the w810i is top o' the line, and V3xx and K1 are both fairly good choices. So here is a couple of question and please excuse my ignorance:
1) What makes the Blackberry's data plan so wonderful?
2) between the Moto SLVR L7, the V3xx, the V3i, and the K1 which one do you consider the better deal (keeping in mind that part of the reason behind pick one of these up is the mp3 functionality)?
3) How badly does the mp3 function use up the battery power on these phones?
It sounds like there are no great or not too many options when it comes to a smart phones that include wifi at this point that won't cost an arm and a leg. I guess from that stand point I will just wait awhile till more option develop and get something else for the mean time.
1) What makes the Blackberry's data plan so wonderful?/quote]
Because without it you're missing out on using the push email and the web browser. It does those two things very well.
2) between the Moto SLVR L7, the V3xx, the V3i, and the K1 which one do you consider the better deal (keeping in mind that part of the reason behind pick one of these up is the mp3 functionality)?
Either the V3i or the L7 come with all your MP3-related necessities, but are also hard-limited to 100 songs. No more. It uses iTunes, too. The V3xx or K1 will require a significant investment to use them for Mp3: headphones ($30, you need to use Motorola's OEM headphones) Motorola Phone Tools ($20) mini-USB cable (like $5?) and microSD card ($40+ for a 1GB or better if you buy online). With a multi-card reader on your PC you could skip the Phone Tools and cable and just drag and drop to put MP3s on it.
3) How badly does the mp3 function use up the battery power on these phones?
I get about 2 hours of music to 1 hour of talk time, using headphones, on my SE. Using the speaker drains it much, much faster.
It sounds like there are no great or not too many options when it comes to a smart phones that include wifi at this point that won't cost an arm and a leg. I guess from that stand point I will just wait awhile till more option develop and get something else for the mean time.
Expect a significant price drop on the 8525 after the debut of the iPhone. It'll probably be $250ish from Cingular, after rebate.
hmmm... I already have the Phone tools cd from my v551 and the datacable and looking online there seems to be be adapters for the Moto headphone plugs, so I could use my Headphones possibly, and the mutli-card reader would be a much cheaper option then a new phone tools cd. On newegg.com they have corsair 1G cards for 11 bucks. So using my preexisting moto phone tools cd and audio jax with a 1G card the total cost to me for what I don't have would probably be under $20. But then again I am perfectly happy with swap out songs periodically for variety sake.
So with L7 or V3i, could I use my MP3s or would I have to convert them to itunes to play them on the phones?
And with all this said what would be involved in using the Sony Ericsson w810i's MP3 capabilities? And is it in your opinion the far superior phone to all of the Motorolas I have mentioned?
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also, what's your price range?
Free to $100 maybe even $200, rigth now the PC I will be buildng is my priorty and thats why I would opt for the contract. And I don't really want to drink the Kool-aid and join the steve cult.
But as a data device, it's rather awesome.
The only way you're getting wi-fi is with the 8125 or 8525, which are expensive. The 8125 tends to be glitchy and is also discontinued. The 8525 is expensive, sexy, awesome, and expensive. But awesome. I'd have one if they weren't cracking down those of us with ANR accounts using the wrong features, now I'd pretty much have to foot the $40/month PDA Connect feature, which is just too much. Bastards.
If you don't absolutely need a full-bore HTML browser and the applicable $30+ data plan, get yourself a Sony Ericsson w810i. By far the best non-3G, non-PDA/smartphone device on Cingular. SE does so many little things right with a phone, and adds in enough cool features, that I can't recommend them highly enough as a brand. The browser is the best WAP browser I've ever used in terms of reliability and speed, though the screen is small for browsing compared to a V3xx or Sync.
If you really want a 3G device, the Blackjack isn't awful, but Windows Mobile 5.0 Smartphone Edition (way too long an OS name, there) is about ten times harder to use than the Pocket PC Edition. It makes doing simple things incredibly complex. Still it's packed with features and is reasonably speedy even when you have a few programs open. The V3xx has won me over into the "Motorola doesn't suck" camp, but you can't copy all phonebook entries to/from the SIM, which is just a retarded oversight on Motorola's part. It does most everything else alright, which I never thought I'd say about a Motorola in the years I've been selling phones.
I don't mean to hijack this thread but I'm looking for a fliptop that has bluetooth, good battery life, nice design and such.
Cingular, preferably.
It's a decidedly average phone, in my experience. Lots of features, but it's cheap for a reason. Reception and battery life aren't great, the screens are prone to breakage (a common problem on Samsungs, oddly), the music buttons on the front work when they decide to work. New UI from Samsung on it that's actually pretty cool, allows for a lot more customization and tinkering than the old UI they've used for the last 2-3 years with minor modifications. Adds a "copy all to SIM" function which has been sorely needed on Samsungs for ages. Some have it, most don't.
The V3xx or K1 (both have the new Motorola UI) are pretty similar for the same feature set. The K1 doesn't have 3G though, and is pricey (but looks nice). The LG CU400 is a solid mid-range phone (VGA cam, speakerphone, bluetooth) that adds 3G and feels like a high-range feature phone. The CU500 is almost exactly the same, but bumps the camera to 1.3MP, adds a microSD slot, MP3 player and music buttons on the front. Both are impressive for LGs, whose GSM phones tend to be the shittiest of the bunch. So saying that they're average is high praise.
Do you use the web browser much? Would you use it more if you had a 3G phone? Need music? That'll help narrow things down. I sell 'em for a living but I can't read minds.
1) What makes the Blackberry's data plan so wonderful?
2) between the Moto SLVR L7, the V3xx, the V3i, and the K1 which one do you consider the better deal (keeping in mind that part of the reason behind pick one of these up is the mp3 functionality)?
3) How badly does the mp3 function use up the battery power on these phones?
It sounds like there are no great or not too many options when it comes to a smart phones that include wifi at this point that won't cost an arm and a leg. I guess from that stand point I will just wait awhile till more option develop and get something else for the mean time.
So with L7 or V3i, could I use my MP3s or would I have to convert them to itunes to play them on the phones?
And with all this said what would be involved in using the Sony Ericsson w810i's MP3 capabilities? And is it in your opinion the far superior phone to all of the Motorolas I have mentioned?