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It's bullshit that expressing emotions is seen negatively in our shtity society.
I cry in public all the fucking time, I don't give a fuck.
Expressing emotions in and of itself isn't really seen negatively (in general American culture anyway)... crying is, sure, but masculinity aside I think people react very poorly to crying because we are biologically trained to respond to crying as a distress signal and are generally prevented from helping due to the immense sinks of empathy/time/money resolving the immediate as well as core issues of the cry, which generally upsets us due to our impotence in addition to the intrinsic ear-piercing nature of crying; if anything the issue is that capitalism(!!!!) and atomization of the individual make very clear boundaries on helping others in need, as well as the natural need to withhold constant desires to help due to the obvious issues of rationing
"Fortify" is (arguably) patriarchal due to its links with this bootstrapping and capitalism and such, but to that issue: at some point you do have to summon the strength to do something difficult
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"and the morning stars I have seen
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
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I think I'll commission a Peridot fig from my 3dArtist friend with access to a 3D printer.
Like, does it really change anything if you don't use a gendered word when you express a pro-patriarchy sentiment?
IDK, I feel like "fortify" replacing "Man up" doesn't change the fact that to tell people in distress to "man up" is just not a good thing.
Sometimes people do need to fortify though. Just because you are capable of expressing a full range of emotion in an uninhibited fashion doesn't negate the need for a thick skin to deal with life's travails.
My general observation was that cat/dog lovers heavily anthropomorphize their respective animals and in that sense fantasize about which would be the superior life to live
v-vivre sa vie
"and the morning stars I have seen
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
Like, does it really change anything if you don't use a gendered word when you express a pro-patriarchy sentiment?
IDK, I feel like "fortify" replacing "Man up" doesn't change the fact that to tell people in distress to "man up" is just not a good thing.
Sometimes people do need to fortify though. Just because you are capable of expressing a full range of emotion in an uninhibited fashion doesn't negate the need for a thick skin to deal with life's travails.
Yeah, I don't disagree, but if someone needs to be told to fortify, it likely isn't because they never tried.
it's very similar to telling a depressed person "Have you tried not being depressed? Have you tried just being happy?
At least, that's how I feel when I'm told both those statements. i feel especially helpless, like I let everyone down by being incapable of a basic fucking thing.
Like, does it really change anything if you don't use a gendered word when you express a pro-patriarchy sentiment?
IDK, I feel like "fortify" replacing "Man up" doesn't change the fact that to tell people in distress to "man up" is just not a good thing.
Sometimes people do need to fortify though. Just because you are capable of expressing a full range of emotion in an uninhibited fashion doesn't negate the need for a thick skin to deal with life's travails.
Yeah, I don't disagree, but if someone needs to be told to fortify, it likely isn't because they never tried.
it's very similar to telling a depressed person "Have you tried not being depressed? Have you tried just being happy?
At least, that's how I feel when I'm told both those statements. i feel especially helpless, like I let everyone down by being incapable of a basic fucking thing.
I feel that you're misunderstanding the nature of the entreaty (in some contexts anyway)
Have you never been encouraged to do something? What is the essential difference between "you can do it" and "fortify"? One just sounds nicer? Because both boil down to the assumption that somewhere in your core you have the ability to do something that you yourself may not believe.
"and the morning stars I have seen
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
So we had an after work last Friday. This time the content team arranged it, and they're all weird freaks social extrovert types.
AW started with a conga line through the offices, them shouting "time to close the laptops!" at all the programmers in the middle of something and giving everyone a beer. Took me five tries to actually manage to decline the beer. Ugh, alcohol culture. But that's a different story.
One of them does this "fuego" thing which is a dance/rhythm exercise workout thing set to music. She invited a trainer over to do a five-minute session.
So we're all in a too small room for this thing with a huge speaker on wheels and an in-your-face PT shouting at everyone to start dancing.
And as pretty much all of chat knows, I'm on the spectrum. Something like this appearing out of nowhere is pretty much equivalent to sitting on the subway and suddenly everyone but you starts a huge brawl. Huge sensory overload completely out of the blue, instant fight-or-flight response.
So I stand to one side so I'm out of the way and wince at the especially loud things that feel like they're cutting into my ears. I'm not alone, two other guys (also programmers) stand on the other side of the room with expressions of varying grimness.
It's just a five-minute session, but it felt like 30 minutes.
After it's over, I retreat to the other end of the office because I need some silence. It's not a panic response, I just need it like a thirsty person needs water. That thing where introverts have no problems being social until their social batteries are drained? Yeah, that drained me instantly.
Still not silent enough, so I go sit in the bathroom instead. I'd have turned the lights off if they weren't automatic.
My eyes start to well up a bit. I can't even call it "crying", because to me crying is a physical response to a mental state. Nothing about this has felt like a mental reaction - it's all been physical reactions. Mentally I just feel annoyed. And now my eyes are welling up as if it's an allergic reaction, which just makes me even more annoyed.
So I sit there for another ten minutes and then go back to these weird things normal people do.
Like, does it really change anything if you don't use a gendered word when you express a pro-patriarchy sentiment?
IDK, I feel like "fortify" replacing "Man up" doesn't change the fact that to tell people in distress to "man up" is just not a good thing.
Sometimes people do need to fortify though. Just because you are capable of expressing a full range of emotion in an uninhibited fashion doesn't negate the need for a thick skin to deal with life's travails.
Yeah, I don't disagree, but if someone needs to be told to fortify, it likely isn't because they never tried.
it's very similar to telling a depressed person "Have you tried not being depressed? Have you tried just being happy?
At least, that's how I feel when I'm told both those statements. i feel especially helpless, like I let everyone down by being incapable of a basic fucking thing.
Sounds like you need to drink a six pack of concrete.
Coz you you need to harden the fuck up.
fake edit: Also I'm totally adopting fortify.
You think i don't know that? This is always insulting, infuriating and distressing to hear. it's also never helpful.
I just wanna say linking true philosophical stoicism and the patriarchy would be trivial, but there's two very different arguments going on.
21st is talking about people in crisis being pressured to try beyond what they feel is their best. While we all know how great coaching, and outside incentives can be for humans to achieve; people in crisis, and depression aren't being logical. There's no logic to why we cry. We cry.
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Select your gun, then select your Neco
Yes
Then I can become a kitty
We gave them a chance to respond civilly
Let's take to the streets
I think the debate between cat people and dog people is really about what they view as the ultimate life to live
I guess in the end I would rather be a cat
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
That sounds perfect to me.
I ran 8 and a half miles yesterday, and according to Strava somewhere in there I did a personal best 5k.
I deserve Dead Cells too!
Yeah I'm getting freezes too
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
Welp, no streaming for now then.
It's bullshit that expressing emotions is seen negatively in our shtity society.
I cry in public all the fucking time, I don't give a fuck.
Check out my site, the Bismuth Heart | My Twitter
Check out my site, the Bismuth Heart | My Twitter
Like, does it really change anything if you don't use a gendered word when you express a pro-patriarchy sentiment?
IDK, I feel like "fortify" replacing "Man up" doesn't change the fact that to tell people in distress to "man up" is just not a good thing.
Check out my site, the Bismuth Heart | My Twitter
Yeah, I realized that tweet can be interpreted other ways than I did after posting it. Didn't mean it that way.
Check out my site, the Bismuth Heart | My Twitter
Expressing emotions in and of itself isn't really seen negatively (in general American culture anyway)... crying is, sure, but masculinity aside I think people react very poorly to crying because we are biologically trained to respond to crying as a distress signal and are generally prevented from helping due to the immense sinks of empathy/time/money resolving the immediate as well as core issues of the cry, which generally upsets us due to our impotence in addition to the intrinsic ear-piercing nature of crying; if anything the issue is that capitalism(!!!!) and atomization of the individual make very clear boundaries on helping others in need, as well as the natural need to withhold constant desires to help due to the obvious issues of rationing
"Fortify" is (arguably) patriarchal due to its links with this bootstrapping and capitalism and such, but to that issue: at some point you do have to summon the strength to do something difficult
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
Why, you ask?
BECAUSE I'M RICH AND IN LOVE.
with the concept of a tiny alien space rock.
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Yeah, i'd say "toughen up" and "suck it up" play into the hand of the patriarchy in the sense that it idealizes stoicness.
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You're going to have to make the link between stoicism and patriarchy.
(in addition to making the link between stoicism and self-determination!)
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
Sometimes people do need to fortify though. Just because you are capable of expressing a full range of emotion in an uninhibited fashion doesn't negate the need for a thick skin to deal with life's travails.
After fortification.
My general observation was that cat/dog lovers heavily anthropomorphize their respective animals and in that sense fantasize about which would be the superior life to live
v-vivre sa vie
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
I don't know what that means
Yeah, I don't disagree, but if someone needs to be told to fortify, it likely isn't because they never tried.
it's very similar to telling a depressed person "Have you tried not being depressed? Have you tried just being happy?
At least, that's how I feel when I'm told both those statements. i feel especially helpless, like I let everyone down by being incapable of a basic fucking thing.
Check out my site, the Bismuth Heart | My Twitter
you're gonna have yourself
a real good time?
Check out my site, the Bismuth Heart | My Twitter
I feel that you're misunderstanding the nature of the entreaty (in some contexts anyway)
Have you never been encouraged to do something? What is the essential difference between "you can do it" and "fortify"? One just sounds nicer? Because both boil down to the assumption that somewhere in your core you have the ability to do something that you yourself may not believe.
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
Sure
So we had an after work last Friday. This time the content team arranged it, and they're all weird freaks social extrovert types.
AW started with a conga line through the offices, them shouting "time to close the laptops!" at all the programmers in the middle of something and giving everyone a beer. Took me five tries to actually manage to decline the beer. Ugh, alcohol culture. But that's a different story.
One of them does this "fuego" thing which is a dance/rhythm exercise workout thing set to music. She invited a trainer over to do a five-minute session.
So we're all in a too small room for this thing with a huge speaker on wheels and an in-your-face PT shouting at everyone to start dancing.
And as pretty much all of chat knows, I'm on the spectrum. Something like this appearing out of nowhere is pretty much equivalent to sitting on the subway and suddenly everyone but you starts a huge brawl. Huge sensory overload completely out of the blue, instant fight-or-flight response.
So I stand to one side so I'm out of the way and wince at the especially loud things that feel like they're cutting into my ears. I'm not alone, two other guys (also programmers) stand on the other side of the room with expressions of varying grimness.
It's just a five-minute session, but it felt like 30 minutes.
After it's over, I retreat to the other end of the office because I need some silence. It's not a panic response, I just need it like a thirsty person needs water. That thing where introverts have no problems being social until their social batteries are drained? Yeah, that drained me instantly.
Still not silent enough, so I go sit in the bathroom instead. I'd have turned the lights off if they weren't automatic.
My eyes start to well up a bit. I can't even call it "crying", because to me crying is a physical response to a mental state. Nothing about this has felt like a mental reaction - it's all been physical reactions. Mentally I just feel annoyed. And now my eyes are welling up as if it's an allergic reaction, which just makes me even more annoyed.
So I sit there for another ten minutes and then go back to these weird things normal people do.
You think i don't know that? This is always insulting, infuriating and distressing to hear. it's also never helpful.
Check out my site, the Bismuth Heart | My Twitter
21st is talking about people in crisis being pressured to try beyond what they feel is their best. While we all know how great coaching, and outside incentives can be for humans to achieve; people in crisis, and depression aren't being logical. There's no logic to why we cry. We cry.