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[Chat]cry5: MRA RIP, NRA KIA?

jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovelsRegistered User regular
edited May 2017 in Debate and/or Discourse
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Oh shit.

Ubisoft done poked the hornets nest with this one.

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    DelmainDelmain Registered User regular
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    Oh shit.

    Ubisoft done poked the hornets nest with this one.

    I almost want to buy it just to piss people off

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    AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    kedinik wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    apart from grocery store hot counters being shit food for desperately rushed or lazy people

    Abdhy I think you might've hit some kind of daily limit for searing white-hot takes

    I'm speaking as a man who is not seldom desperately rushed or lazy

    I am a victim here

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    YamiNoSenshiYamiNoSenshi A point called Z In the complex planeRegistered User regular
    Can it be true? A peaceful transfer of [chat] power?

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    amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    I'mma play the living shit out of FarCry5

    are YOU on the beer list?
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    jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    edited May 2017
    EDIT NOPE, WOO!

    jungleroomx on
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    nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    Will you get to murder a bald eagle to make a fancy wallet?

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Delmain wrote: »
    0rf2jh2nggdn.jpg

    Oh shit.

    Ubisoft done poked the hornets nest with this one.

    I almost want to buy it just to piss people off

    Yeah same, even though I was super luke warm on 4. Just to support pissing on the trumpers.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    pleasepaypreacher.net
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    DelmainDelmain Registered User regular
    and no, we've learned what you think is a valid line to draw between taxes

    it's tables and chairs

    I don't know why you think the use of tables and chairs is the line where you should draw the taxing line, but you do

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    ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA mod
    Is the trailer out?

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    DelmainDelmain Registered User regular
    No, friday.

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    jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    Delmain wrote: »
    and no, we've learned what you think is a valid line to draw between taxes

    it's tables and chairs

    I don't know why you think the use of tables and chairs is the line where you should draw the taxing line, but you do

    Ass tax.

    Where you put your ass when eating.

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    Jubal77Jubal77 Registered User regular
    I think people will still buy Farcry 5. Because it will most likely be a fun little 20 hour or so romp. On both sides of the spectrum.

    The complaining will come from... elsewhere heh.

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    AiouaAioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    spool32 wrote: »
    Aioua wrote: »
    spool32 wrote: »
    Aioua wrote: »
    Vanguard wrote: »
    like, if weed was legalized tomorrow i imagine every grow operation in a state with legal weed would get an offer from some large conglomerate and the industry would flip from the wild west that it is now to basically be liquor

    And some will take the bait, sure

    weed has the major benefit of being stupidly easy to grow and growable basically anywhere

    so unless the megacorp gets some rent-seeking regulations in place you'll still see a ton of boutique weed companies because the startup costs are pretty dang low

    easier than setting up a brewery

    and the market is already one that's pretty picky on quality, I mean sure some people are just gonna buy the cheapest shit you can buy but it's not like beer where everyone in the country drank bud or coors and you had to create a demand for craft beer from scratch

    Gosh vowels, How likely could it possibly be that tobacco industry Giants will be able to convince state government to pass rent-seeking regulatory regimes that favor them while guaranteeing that sweet 40% tax base for the budget?

    I mean, that sounds crazy. It couldn't possibly happen.

    I mean yes, that is a bad thing

    how do minimal taxes on existing companies prevent that?

    Like, your argument is that the existing companies are being stifled by regulations and taxes (which they aren't, WA pot is running strong), or at least they could be doing better. And then with their extra pocket cash they can fight back against Big Tobacco?

    but if they have the money to fight Big Tobacco then they're already a the kind of megacorp you don't want who's probably trying to push through their own rent-seeking regs

    like, the fight between Big Industry and Startups exists independently of the tax and regulation issue

    big money still big money

    (aside: I'm not so sure Big Tobacco is going to swoop in and take over the weed industry anyway... IME once you become a big entrenched business you become shit at doing new things and the smaller companies come in to take what should have been your place. Amazon should have been Sears. iOS should have been WinMobile. That kinda thing.)

    They could clearly be doing better. Like, maybe 30% better! That's a huge chunk of change either in realized profits or savings passed back to consumers to grow brand loyalty. I'm saying that whether or not the local industry fights off nationalized megacorps will be made harder by not having more cash in hand and more business infrastructure in place and more existing employees and better sales. Weed Amazon needs a very cheap and unregulated battlespace to compete in, or it loses for sure and by 2030 all your pot is imported from Ohio.

    I guess I don't think it matters. Regulations and high taxes benefits big business. No regs and low taxes also benefits big business. Turns out everything is great when you have piles of cash.

    Regs and taxes can't be too onerous of you want small timers to succeed, but I don't agree cutting those down to the bone, by itself, does anything to help the small scale businesses compete. It benefits the big players far more.

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    fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
    that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
    bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    I once got offered to buy weed in Jamaica, but it was like, shitty off-colored ditch weed. That broke the illusion of Jamaica as a stoner paradise.

    I didn't buy it.

    I ate an engineer
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    Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo We are only now beginning to understand the full power and ramifications of sexual intercourse Registered User regular
    It's set in middle America?

    Homogeneous distribution of your varieties of amuse-gueule
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    AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    the hot counter of the spar by me has the world's saddest lasagna

    carbohydrates was the only taste I could think of

    which is the taste equivalent of it being quiet enough to hear your bloodstream

    as I ate it while briskly walking to the light rail I wondered if I wasn't going to be a more cheery man at work without food, instead

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    YamiNoSenshiYamiNoSenshi A point called Z In the complex planeRegistered User regular
    Elki wrote: »
    Is the trailer out?

    Well, first you have the promo image. Then the poster. Then the teaser. Then the pre-trailer announcement teaser. Then the trailer 'leaks'.

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    TavTav Irish Minister for DefenceRegistered User regular
    Football!

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    Jubal77Jubal77 Registered User regular
    We had a trailer yesterday.

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    amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    EDIT NOPE, WOO!

    What did you post?

    are YOU on the beer list?
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    jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    edited May 2017
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    the hot counter of the spar by me has the world's saddest lasagna

    carbohydrates was the only taste I could think of

    which is the taste equivalent of it being quiet enough to hear your bloodstream

    as I ate it while briskly walking to the light rail I wondered if I wasn't going to be a more cheery man at work without food, instead

    You need some good ol' American grocery action, bruh.

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    That's just part of the deli.

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    TavTav Irish Minister for DefenceRegistered User regular
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    Havelock2.0Havelock2.0 Sufficiently Chill The Chill ZoneRegistered User regular
    AH pays his taxes in squirrel pelts

    I've seen things you people wouldn't believe
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    Hahnsoo1Hahnsoo1 Make Ready. We Hunt.Registered User regular
    Mojo_Jojo wrote: »
    It's set in middle America?
    Montana, I believe?

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    SparvySparvy Registered User regular
    Delmain wrote: »
    and no, we've learned what you think is a valid line to draw between taxes

    it's tables and chairs

    I don't know why you think the use of tables and chairs is the line where you should draw the taxing line, but you do

    Because it changes what type of business it is. If you were actually wondering.

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    DelmainDelmain Registered User regular
    Aioua wrote: »
    spool32 wrote: »
    Aioua wrote: »
    spool32 wrote: »
    Aioua wrote: »
    Vanguard wrote: »
    like, if weed was legalized tomorrow i imagine every grow operation in a state with legal weed would get an offer from some large conglomerate and the industry would flip from the wild west that it is now to basically be liquor

    And some will take the bait, sure

    weed has the major benefit of being stupidly easy to grow and growable basically anywhere

    so unless the megacorp gets some rent-seeking regulations in place you'll still see a ton of boutique weed companies because the startup costs are pretty dang low

    easier than setting up a brewery

    and the market is already one that's pretty picky on quality, I mean sure some people are just gonna buy the cheapest shit you can buy but it's not like beer where everyone in the country drank bud or coors and you had to create a demand for craft beer from scratch

    Gosh vowels, How likely could it possibly be that tobacco industry Giants will be able to convince state government to pass rent-seeking regulatory regimes that favor them while guaranteeing that sweet 40% tax base for the budget?

    I mean, that sounds crazy. It couldn't possibly happen.

    I mean yes, that is a bad thing

    how do minimal taxes on existing companies prevent that?

    Like, your argument is that the existing companies are being stifled by regulations and taxes (which they aren't, WA pot is running strong), or at least they could be doing better. And then with their extra pocket cash they can fight back against Big Tobacco?

    but if they have the money to fight Big Tobacco then they're already a the kind of megacorp you don't want who's probably trying to push through their own rent-seeking regs

    like, the fight between Big Industry and Startups exists independently of the tax and regulation issue

    big money still big money

    (aside: I'm not so sure Big Tobacco is going to swoop in and take over the weed industry anyway... IME once you become a big entrenched business you become shit at doing new things and the smaller companies come in to take what should have been your place. Amazon should have been Sears. iOS should have been WinMobile. That kinda thing.)

    They could clearly be doing better. Like, maybe 30% better! That's a huge chunk of change either in realized profits or savings passed back to consumers to grow brand loyalty. I'm saying that whether or not the local industry fights off nationalized megacorps will be made harder by not having more cash in hand and more business infrastructure in place and more existing employees and better sales. Weed Amazon needs a very cheap and unregulated battlespace to compete in, or it loses for sure and by 2030 all your pot is imported from Ohio.

    I guess I don't think it matters. Regulations and high taxes benefits big business. No regs and low taxes also benefits big business. Turns out everything is great when you have piles of cash.

    Regs and taxes can't be too onerous of you want small timers to succeed, but I don't agree cutting those down to the bone, by itself, does anything to help the small scale businesses compete. It benefits the big players far more.

    I've pointed this out for years, but no one agrees that the answer is high taxes and subsidization for "small businesses" which we have decided is something we want

    similar to how taxes are not a simple thing where you can fill it out on a single piece of paper, but then we let poor people get tax preparation for free

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    jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    EDIT NOPE, WOO!

    What did you post?

    Thought I got that stupid posting error.

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    amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
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    CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    I can't wait for the innovative way Farcry 5 will give you 500 identical things to check off.

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    DelmainDelmain Registered User regular
    Yeah, that's just the teaser though, full trailer on friday

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    jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    Elki wrote: »
    Is the trailer out?

    There's a multilayered joke here about Farcry, MRA's, and redneckism, but I'm not clever enough to make it.

    Just let it be known I totally would have, had I been able.

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    kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    Sparvy wrote: »
    Delmain wrote: »
    and no, we've learned what you think is a valid line to draw between taxes

    it's tables and chairs

    I don't know why you think the use of tables and chairs is the line where you should draw the taxing line, but you do

    Because it changes what type of business it is. If you were actually wondering.

    What is the policy rationale of taxing dine-in food but not takeout food?

    I made a game! Hotline Maui. Requires mouse and keyboard.
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    amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    AH pays his taxes in squirrel pelts

    I pay taxes in money because money is a useless trinket.

    I wouldn't give a good pelt to the government.

    are YOU on the beer list?
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    VanguardVanguard But now the dream is over. And the insect is awake.Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2017
    also spool brand loyalty isn't a thing for consumables

    Vanguard on
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    descdesc Goretexing to death Registered User regular
    After a lifetime of reading Usenet/blog/posts from people talking about how they want to smash liberals' faces in with hammers, shoot protesters, bash gays, etc., I am totally ready for whatever dumb crafting system Ubi has so I can build an AR-15 and shoot at malheur occupying rancher blue lives matter monotheist types

    Sorry not sorry

    Ubi you better deliver

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    SleepSleep Registered User regular
    AH pays his taxes in squirrel pelts

    I pay taxes in money because money is a useless trinket.

    I wouldn't give a good pelt to the government.

    Seriously though, when you start fuckin around with pipes tag me

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    YamiNoSenshiYamiNoSenshi A point called Z In the complex planeRegistered User regular
    Vanguard wrote: »
    also spool brand loyalty isn't a thing

    This post brought to you by Babybel brand cheese-like snack products.

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    ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited May 2017

    Will the Far Cry 5 dog go to heaven?

    Elki on
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    firewaterwordfirewaterword Satchitananda Pais Vasco to San FranciscoRegistered User regular
    Hey chat. Walked my butt off today. Vienna is incredible. It's like the entire country had to take a test on how to ride an escalator properly and everyone passed. Hell of a thing to see.

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