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[Rick & Morty] and the Infinite Sadness

Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
edited August 2017 in Debate and/or Discourse
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Rick and Morty is an American animated television series created by Dan Harmon and Justin Roiland that premiered on December 2, 2013 on Cartoon Network's late-night programming block, Adult Swim. Roiland voices the eponymous main characters Rick, a scientist and alcoholic, and Morty, Rick's grandson. The series is a cosmic horror comedy that follows the two's adventures, sometimes with the rest of their family.

Currently airing season 3, Rick & Morty are also featured in other media such as video games, merch, comics and even a full-featured Pokemon parody for phones.

New episodes stream via the Adult Swim website, though some require cable provider credentials to view. You can purchase the whole season in advance through many video apps like Amazon, or wait for the Blu-Ray probably hitting around X-Mas.

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  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    When did Morty kill the postman?

    What is this I don't even.
  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    When he hit the mailbox with the magnifier ray

  • Golden YakGolden Yak Burnished Bovine The sunny beaches of CanadaRegistered User regular
    But he also made the owner of that garden gnome rich, so... it all evens out.

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  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    Golden Yak wrote: »
    But he also made the owner of that garden gnome rich, so... it all evens out.

    Either that or he got the owner of that garden gnome murdered in a diamond garden gnome related robbery.

  • BursarBursar Hee Noooo! PDX areaRegistered User regular
    For all the hate Rick gives Jerry for "ruining Beth's life," he doesn't seem to realize that Morty wouldn't exist if Jerry and Beth hadn't gotten married. Rick having a Morty seems to be one of the constants of the multiverse.

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  • Gabriel_PittGabriel_Pitt Stepped in it Registered User regular
    Bursar wrote: »
    For all the hate Rick gives Jerry for "ruining Beth's life," he doesn't seem to realize that Morty wouldn't exist if Jerry and Beth hadn't gotten married. Rick having a Morty seems to be one of the constants of the multiverse.

    Which makes your wonder what the Rick is like in the universe where Jerry is snorting coke with Johnny Depp and Beth is a famous cardiac surgeon.

    Maybe that's Doofus Rick's universe?

  • AlphaRomeroAlphaRomero Registered User regular
    edited August 2017
    Doofus Rick never had any children. Rick's must not always have Mortys though it's a frequent thing. It's likely the single Beth's Rick is dead.

    EDIT: I used to think the memory that Evil Morty's Rick brings up of baby Morty was proof that Rick had feelings, but for him to cry over that memory is a bit out of character since Morty was just down the hall. I'm starting to wonder if Morty isn't his original Morty and his original Morty died very young, starting his cycle.

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  • Ninja Snarl PNinja Snarl P My helmet is my burden. Ninja Snarl: Gone, but not forgotten.Registered User regular
    Bursar wrote: »
    For all the hate Rick gives Jerry for "ruining Beth's life," he doesn't seem to realize that Morty wouldn't exist if Jerry and Beth hadn't gotten married. Rick having a Morty seems to be one of the constants of the multiverse.

    Which makes your wonder what the Rick is like in the universe where Jerry is snorting coke with Johnny Depp and Beth is a famous cardiac surgeon.

    Maybe that's Doofus Rick's universe?

    Dead because he has no Dumb Field protection?

    Though I guess he could just get a Morty of his own, there doesn't seem to be any shortage of Rick-less Morties at this point.

  • GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    Jerry Lyfe!

    Jerry 4 Ever!

    Embrace the Jerry
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  • SadgasmSadgasm Deluded doodler A cold placeRegistered User regular
    Doofus Rick never had any children. Rick's must not always have Mortys though it's a frequent thing. It's likely the single Beth's Rick is dead.

    EDIT: I used to think the memory that Evil Morty's Rick brings up of baby Morty was proof that Rick had feelings, but for him to cry over that memory is a bit out of character since Morty was just down the hall. I'm starting to wonder if Morty isn't his original Morty and his original Morty died very young, starting his cycle.

    Thats kind of the point of the show, aside from the obviously different universes like Hammer Morty or whatever, ANY Rick and Morty could be OUR Rick and Morty. I mean, we dont have the same Beth, Summer or Jerry that we started with anymore, we have no way of knowing if the Rick and Morty we're watching now are the ones we started with either.

  • ArmorocArmoroc Registered User regular
    That would be really shitty though and unlikely for the creators to just replace Rick and Morty. I'm watching this show because it's about the rickest Rick and the mortiest Morty going on fun (and sometimes messed up) adventures out there in the multiverse.

  • Road BlockRoad Block Registered User regular
    Bursar wrote: »
    For all the hate Rick gives Jerry for "ruining Beth's life," he doesn't seem to realize that Morty wouldn't exist if Jerry and Beth hadn't gotten married. Rick having a Morty seems to be one of the constants of the multiverse.

    Which makes your wonder what the Rick is like in the universe where Jerry is snorting coke with Johnny Depp and Beth is a famous cardiac surgeon.

    Maybe that's Doofus Rick's universe?

    Well there was a deleted scene from that episode.

    https://youtu.be/hviPE9Dfhns

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    edited August 2017
    Rick reveals that he needs a Morty as a human cloaking device in the same episode where they introduced the Council of Ricks.

    I think it's a pretty strong inference that Rick C-137 only needs a human cloaking device because he's hiding from other Ricks. You don't need your own Morty if you just join the Council.

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    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
    I'm pretty sure the council of Rick's also needed their mortys to hide from galactic governments. C137 was a thorn in the council side but was not yet a wanted man. Hence why evil Rick/Morty made a Morty ball to hide himself from everyone.

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  • SoggybiscuitSoggybiscuit Tandem Electrostatic Accelerator Registered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    Rick reveals that he needs a Morty as a human cloaking device in the same episode where they introduced the Council of Ricks.

    I think it's a pretty strong inference that Rick C-137 only needs a human cloaking device because he's hiding from other Ricks. You don't need your own Morty if you just join the Council.

    Rick actually uses it to hide from the intergalactic government, warlords, and such and such. One Morty isn't enough, you need like 5 and a jumper cable to be able to hide from other Ricks.

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  • DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    hey guy, open the spoiler...
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    I rendered a Pickle Rick!
    Boom! Big reveal.
    I got drunk one day and I got V Ray rendering and I rendered a Pickle!

    ... that's all ... return to your regular browsing.

  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    Now all I need is a 3D printer and I'm set

  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    DanHibiki wrote: »
    hey guy, open the spoiler...
    c046znpb0wcn.jpg
    I rendered a Pickle Rick!
    Boom! Big reveal.
    I got drunk one day and I got V Ray rendering and I rendered a Pickle!

    ... that's all ... return to your regular browsing.

    Now whats the real reason you rendered that pickle?

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  • DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    DanHibiki wrote: »
    hey guy, open the spoiler...
    c046znpb0wcn.jpg
    I rendered a Pickle Rick!
    Boom! Big reveal.
    I got drunk one day and I got V Ray rendering and I rendered a Pickle!

    ... that's all ... return to your regular browsing.

    Now whats the real reason you rendered that pickle?

    The only reason anyone would do this, if they could, which they can't, would be because they could.
    Also i'm bench marking V Ray on the render farm VS Redshift on a GTX 1080 to see if I could replace the aging farm with a single multi GPU rig and this damn pickle will be one of the test scenes.

  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    Rewatching Vindicators, funny foreshadowing from Rick

    "..I'm just using Logic to connect the dots"

    so damn.. literal

  • ErlkönigErlkönig Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Bursar wrote: »
    For all the hate Rick gives Jerry for "ruining Beth's life," he doesn't seem to realize that Morty wouldn't exist if Jerry and Beth hadn't gotten married. Rick having a Morty seems to be one of the constants of the multiverse.

    Which makes your wonder what the Rick is like in the universe where Jerry is snorting coke with Johnny Depp and Beth is a famous cardiac surgeon.

    Maybe that's Doofus Rick's universe?

    Dead because he has no Dumb Field protection?

    Though I guess he could just get a Morty of his own, there doesn't seem to be any shortage of Rick-less Morties at this point.

    In a reality where there are infinite universes, there are infinite Ricks and infinite Morties. What this means is that there will always be a Morty for a Rick.

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Rewatching Vindicators, funny foreshadowing from Rick

    "..I'm just using Logic to connect the dots"

    so damn.. literal

    He... connected dots?

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    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Bursar wrote: »
    For all the hate Rick gives Jerry for "ruining Beth's life," he doesn't seem to realize that Morty wouldn't exist if Jerry and Beth hadn't gotten married. Rick having a Morty seems to be one of the constants of the multiverse.

    Which makes your wonder what the Rick is like in the universe where Jerry is snorting coke with Johnny Depp and Beth is a famous cardiac surgeon.

    Maybe that's Doofus Rick's universe?

    Dead because he has no Dumb Field protection?

    Though I guess he could just get a Morty of his own, there doesn't seem to be any shortage of Rick-less Morties at this point.

    In a reality where there are infinite universes, there are infinite Ricks and infinite Morties. What this means is that there will always be a Morty for a Rick.

    Not all infinite sets are equal.

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • Golden YakGolden Yak Burnished Bovine The sunny beaches of CanadaRegistered User regular
    So, I don't like all of these, but I do like this one:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avbFUPZRPOU

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  • WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    This is where I point out again that people should read the comics ( they aren't written by the same crew but they nail the vibe)
    On Doofus Ricks world , Jerry is
    a basically unstoppable universe ending threat without a proper Rick to combat him,
    to the point of actual Rick has trouble defeating him. So could be a sorta universal construct that Jerry needs to be kept docile by a proper Rick.

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  • GnizmoGnizmo Registered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Bursar wrote: »
    For all the hate Rick gives Jerry for "ruining Beth's life," he doesn't seem to realize that Morty wouldn't exist if Jerry and Beth hadn't gotten married. Rick having a Morty seems to be one of the constants of the multiverse.

    Which makes your wonder what the Rick is like in the universe where Jerry is snorting coke with Johnny Depp and Beth is a famous cardiac surgeon.

    Maybe that's Doofus Rick's universe?

    Dead because he has no Dumb Field protection?

    Though I guess he could just get a Morty of his own, there doesn't seem to be any shortage of Rick-less Morties at this point.

    In a reality where there are infinite universes, there are infinite Ricks and infinite Morties. What this means is that there will always be a Morty for a Rick.

    Not all infinite sets are equal.

    Infinity is a really funny concept is the short version. Infinite realities doesn't mean every reality you can conceive of is the short version. We have confimation in show about the morty in show as well. In the first Rick council episode Rick C137 states that most universes have a Rick, and most Rick's have a Morty. We also have seen a Rick who had a Morty from an alternate universe.

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    Feral wrote: »
    Rick reveals that he needs a Morty as a human cloaking device in the same episode where they introduced the Council of Ricks.

    I think it's a pretty strong inference that Rick C-137 only needs a human cloaking device because he's hiding from other Ricks. You don't need your own Morty if you just join the Council.

    Rick actually uses it to hide from the intergalactic government, warlords, and such and such. One Morty isn't enough, you need like 5 and a jumper cable to be able to hide from other Ricks.

    That's fair.

    I'm also thinking this through and it would make sense for Morty-less Ricks to join the Council anyway for self-preservation. Seems like the safest place for a Morty-less Rick.

    That's assuming the whole cloaking device explanation was true. Rick frequently lies about his motivations especially where his family is concerned. Making up a reason why he doesn't actually care about Morty is a very Rick thing to do.

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    I think my favorite thing about this season so far is what I am calling 'Exasperated Morty'. The last two episodes especially have featured several moments of Morty, clearly tired of ALL of this, getting shit done because clearly nobody else is going to solve the problems.

    There was also a bit of it last season with the Tree People in the episode about Rick's car battery.

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  • ErlkönigErlkönig Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Gnizmo wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Bursar wrote: »
    For all the hate Rick gives Jerry for "ruining Beth's life," he doesn't seem to realize that Morty wouldn't exist if Jerry and Beth hadn't gotten married. Rick having a Morty seems to be one of the constants of the multiverse.

    Which makes your wonder what the Rick is like in the universe where Jerry is snorting coke with Johnny Depp and Beth is a famous cardiac surgeon.

    Maybe that's Doofus Rick's universe?

    Dead because he has no Dumb Field protection?

    Though I guess he could just get a Morty of his own, there doesn't seem to be any shortage of Rick-less Morties at this point.

    In a reality where there are infinite universes, there are infinite Ricks and infinite Morties. What this means is that there will always be a Morty for a Rick.

    Not all infinite sets are equal.

    Infinity is a really funny concept is the short version. Infinite realities doesn't mean every reality you can conceive of is the short version. We have confimation in show about the morty in show as well. In the first Rick council episode Rick C137 states that most universes have a Rick, and most Rick's have a Morty. We also have seen a Rick who had a Morty from an alternate universe.

    Infinite realities also means that there are infinite universes that don't have a Rick or a Morty. Basically, infinite possibilities also means infinite universes of all contingencies. It's just that, as Rick mentioned WAAAAAAY back in the Cronenburging of Earth episode, it's a matter of finding one that's desirable/close enough to the universe you want to inhabit. It's kind of the same way with Ricks finding replacement Morties (or Summers): they're definitely out there...but the work required to find a suitable one is more than the work required for Rick to keep his Morty (or Summer) alive.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Gnizmo wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Bursar wrote: »
    For all the hate Rick gives Jerry for "ruining Beth's life," he doesn't seem to realize that Morty wouldn't exist if Jerry and Beth hadn't gotten married. Rick having a Morty seems to be one of the constants of the multiverse.

    Which makes your wonder what the Rick is like in the universe where Jerry is snorting coke with Johnny Depp and Beth is a famous cardiac surgeon.

    Maybe that's Doofus Rick's universe?

    Dead because he has no Dumb Field protection?

    Though I guess he could just get a Morty of his own, there doesn't seem to be any shortage of Rick-less Morties at this point.

    In a reality where there are infinite universes, there are infinite Ricks and infinite Morties. What this means is that there will always be a Morty for a Rick.

    Not all infinite sets are equal.

    Infinity is a really funny concept is the short version. Infinite realities doesn't mean every reality you can conceive of is the short version. We have confimation in show about the morty in show as well. In the first Rick council episode Rick C137 states that most universes have a Rick, and most Rick's have a Morty. We also have seen a Rick who had a Morty from an alternate universe.

    Infinite realities also means that there are infinite universes that don't have a Rick or a Morty. Basically, infinite possibilities also means infinite universes of all contingencies. It's just that, as Rick mentioned WAAAAAAY back in the Cronenburging of Earth episode, it's a matter of finding one that's desirable/close enough to the universe you want to inhabit. It's kind of the same way with Ricks finding replacement Morties (or Summers): they're definitely out there...but the work required to find a suitable one is more than the work required for Rick to keep his Morty (or Summer) alive.

    There are infinite numbers between 0 and 1, but none of those numbers are greater than 1. Infinite sets do not necessarily mean infinite variations.

  • ErlkönigErlkönig Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Gnizmo wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Bursar wrote: »
    For all the hate Rick gives Jerry for "ruining Beth's life," he doesn't seem to realize that Morty wouldn't exist if Jerry and Beth hadn't gotten married. Rick having a Morty seems to be one of the constants of the multiverse.

    Which makes your wonder what the Rick is like in the universe where Jerry is snorting coke with Johnny Depp and Beth is a famous cardiac surgeon.

    Maybe that's Doofus Rick's universe?

    Dead because he has no Dumb Field protection?

    Though I guess he could just get a Morty of his own, there doesn't seem to be any shortage of Rick-less Morties at this point.

    In a reality where there are infinite universes, there are infinite Ricks and infinite Morties. What this means is that there will always be a Morty for a Rick.

    Not all infinite sets are equal.

    Infinity is a really funny concept is the short version. Infinite realities doesn't mean every reality you can conceive of is the short version. We have confimation in show about the morty in show as well. In the first Rick council episode Rick C137 states that most universes have a Rick, and most Rick's have a Morty. We also have seen a Rick who had a Morty from an alternate universe.

    Infinite realities also means that there are infinite universes that don't have a Rick or a Morty. Basically, infinite possibilities also means infinite universes of all contingencies. It's just that, as Rick mentioned WAAAAAAY back in the Cronenburging of Earth episode, it's a matter of finding one that's desirable/close enough to the universe you want to inhabit. It's kind of the same way with Ricks finding replacement Morties (or Summers): they're definitely out there...but the work required to find a suitable one is more than the work required for Rick to keep his Morty (or Summer) alive.

    There are infinite numbers between 0 and 1, but none of those numbers are greater than 1. Infinite sets do not necessarily mean infinite variations.

    Except it's explicitly stated by Rick that there are infinite universes with infinite possibilities. So, yeah...I'm going with internal consistency instead of viewer interpretation.

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  • Golden YakGolden Yak Burnished Bovine The sunny beaches of CanadaRegistered User regular
    Look, infinite probably isn't as many as you think.

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  • DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Gnizmo wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Bursar wrote: »
    For all the hate Rick gives Jerry for "ruining Beth's life," he doesn't seem to realize that Morty wouldn't exist if Jerry and Beth hadn't gotten married. Rick having a Morty seems to be one of the constants of the multiverse.

    Which makes your wonder what the Rick is like in the universe where Jerry is snorting coke with Johnny Depp and Beth is a famous cardiac surgeon.

    Maybe that's Doofus Rick's universe?

    Dead because he has no Dumb Field protection?

    Though I guess he could just get a Morty of his own, there doesn't seem to be any shortage of Rick-less Morties at this point.

    In a reality where there are infinite universes, there are infinite Ricks and infinite Morties. What this means is that there will always be a Morty for a Rick.

    Not all infinite sets are equal.

    Infinity is a really funny concept is the short version. Infinite realities doesn't mean every reality you can conceive of is the short version. We have confimation in show about the morty in show as well. In the first Rick council episode Rick C137 states that most universes have a Rick, and most Rick's have a Morty. We also have seen a Rick who had a Morty from an alternate universe.

    Infinite realities also means that there are infinite universes that don't have a Rick or a Morty. Basically, infinite possibilities also means infinite universes of all contingencies. It's just that, as Rick mentioned WAAAAAAY back in the Cronenburging of Earth episode, it's a matter of finding one that's desirable/close enough to the universe you want to inhabit. It's kind of the same way with Ricks finding replacement Morties (or Summers): they're definitely out there...but the work required to find a suitable one is more than the work required for Rick to keep his Morty (or Summer) alive.

    There are infinite numbers between 0 and 1, but none of those numbers are greater than 1. Infinite sets do not necessarily mean infinite variations.

    Except it's explicitly stated by Rick that there are infinite universes with infinite possibilities. So, yeah...I'm going with internal consistency instead of viewer interpretation.
    Some things are so improbable that given infinite time in an infinite universe they still won't happen.

  • MvrckMvrck Dwarven MountainhomeRegistered User regular
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Gnizmo wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Bursar wrote: »
    For all the hate Rick gives Jerry for "ruining Beth's life," he doesn't seem to realize that Morty wouldn't exist if Jerry and Beth hadn't gotten married. Rick having a Morty seems to be one of the constants of the multiverse.

    Which makes your wonder what the Rick is like in the universe where Jerry is snorting coke with Johnny Depp and Beth is a famous cardiac surgeon.

    Maybe that's Doofus Rick's universe?

    Dead because he has no Dumb Field protection?

    Though I guess he could just get a Morty of his own, there doesn't seem to be any shortage of Rick-less Morties at this point.

    In a reality where there are infinite universes, there are infinite Ricks and infinite Morties. What this means is that there will always be a Morty for a Rick.

    Not all infinite sets are equal.

    Infinity is a really funny concept is the short version. Infinite realities doesn't mean every reality you can conceive of is the short version. We have confimation in show about the morty in show as well. In the first Rick council episode Rick C137 states that most universes have a Rick, and most Rick's have a Morty. We also have seen a Rick who had a Morty from an alternate universe.

    Infinite realities also means that there are infinite universes that don't have a Rick or a Morty. Basically, infinite possibilities also means infinite universes of all contingencies. It's just that, as Rick mentioned WAAAAAAY back in the Cronenburging of Earth episode, it's a matter of finding one that's desirable/close enough to the universe you want to inhabit. It's kind of the same way with Ricks finding replacement Morties (or Summers): they're definitely out there...but the work required to find a suitable one is more than the work required for Rick to keep his Morty (or Summer) alive.

    There are infinite numbers between 0 and 1, but none of those numbers are greater than 1. Infinite sets do not necessarily mean infinite variations.

    Except it's explicitly stated by Rick that there are infinite universes with infinite possibilities. So, yeah...I'm going with internal consistency instead of viewer interpretation.

    The Council of Ricks mention the Central Finite Curve though. Which is probably the Rick's/Universes that are sufficiently similar to be compatible.

  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    edited August 2017
    Some random thoughts that came to me while eating lunch.
    Rick's new super-competence is a direct result of his giving up his improvisational experience in his escape from Galactic Federation prison. Since he no longer knows how to improvise a last minute gadget or a daring getaway with any confidence he falls back on what he knows will work: overwhelming firepower.

    Rick's cyborg parts are a plant by a secret leader of the Council of Ricks and are reporting his every move back to the leader. A leader who knows Rick well enough to plant the cyborg enhanced Rick in just the right place for that to be the last body Rick jumped into after he took down the Federation and cleared out the bureaucratic dead weight in the CoR. The most likely leader? Evil Morty.

    I feel like there should be at least one more for some reason, but lunch is only so long.

    see317 on
  • GnizmoGnizmo Registered User regular
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Gnizmo wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Bursar wrote: »
    For all the hate Rick gives Jerry for "ruining Beth's life," he doesn't seem to realize that Morty wouldn't exist if Jerry and Beth hadn't gotten married. Rick having a Morty seems to be one of the constants of the multiverse.

    Which makes your wonder what the Rick is like in the universe where Jerry is snorting coke with Johnny Depp and Beth is a famous cardiac surgeon.

    Maybe that's Doofus Rick's universe?

    Dead because he has no Dumb Field protection?

    Though I guess he could just get a Morty of his own, there doesn't seem to be any shortage of Rick-less Morties at this point.

    In a reality where there are infinite universes, there are infinite Ricks and infinite Morties. What this means is that there will always be a Morty for a Rick.

    Not all infinite sets are equal.

    Infinity is a really funny concept is the short version. Infinite realities doesn't mean every reality you can conceive of is the short version. We have confimation in show about the morty in show as well. In the first Rick council episode Rick C137 states that most universes have a Rick, and most Rick's have a Morty. We also have seen a Rick who had a Morty from an alternate universe.

    Infinite realities also means that there are infinite universes that don't have a Rick or a Morty. Basically, infinite possibilities also means infinite universes of all contingencies. It's just that, as Rick mentioned WAAAAAAY back in the Cronenburging of Earth episode, it's a matter of finding one that's desirable/close enough to the universe you want to inhabit. It's kind of the same way with Ricks finding replacement Morties (or Summers): they're definitely out there...but the work required to find a suitable one is more than the work required for Rick to keep his Morty (or Summer) alive.

    There are infinite numbers between 0 and 1, but none of those numbers are greater than 1. Infinite sets do not necessarily mean infinite variations.

    Except it's explicitly stated by Rick that there are infinite universes with infinite possibilities. So, yeah...I'm going with internal consistency instead of viewer interpretation.

    And explicitly stated that there were only so many universes similar enough to slip into. Not like he didn't want to do the work, but literally only possble a very small number of times. That makes the interpretation flawed at best.

  • ErlkönigErlkönig Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Gnizmo wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Gnizmo wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
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    For all the hate Rick gives Jerry for "ruining Beth's life," he doesn't seem to realize that Morty wouldn't exist if Jerry and Beth hadn't gotten married. Rick having a Morty seems to be one of the constants of the multiverse.

    Which makes your wonder what the Rick is like in the universe where Jerry is snorting coke with Johnny Depp and Beth is a famous cardiac surgeon.

    Maybe that's Doofus Rick's universe?

    Dead because he has no Dumb Field protection?

    Though I guess he could just get a Morty of his own, there doesn't seem to be any shortage of Rick-less Morties at this point.

    In a reality where there are infinite universes, there are infinite Ricks and infinite Morties. What this means is that there will always be a Morty for a Rick.

    Not all infinite sets are equal.

    Infinity is a really funny concept is the short version. Infinite realities doesn't mean every reality you can conceive of is the short version. We have confimation in show about the morty in show as well. In the first Rick council episode Rick C137 states that most universes have a Rick, and most Rick's have a Morty. We also have seen a Rick who had a Morty from an alternate universe.

    Infinite realities also means that there are infinite universes that don't have a Rick or a Morty. Basically, infinite possibilities also means infinite universes of all contingencies. It's just that, as Rick mentioned WAAAAAAY back in the Cronenburging of Earth episode, it's a matter of finding one that's desirable/close enough to the universe you want to inhabit. It's kind of the same way with Ricks finding replacement Morties (or Summers): they're definitely out there...but the work required to find a suitable one is more than the work required for Rick to keep his Morty (or Summer) alive.

    There are infinite numbers between 0 and 1, but none of those numbers are greater than 1. Infinite sets do not necessarily mean infinite variations.

    Except it's explicitly stated by Rick that there are infinite universes with infinite possibilities. So, yeah...I'm going with internal consistency instead of viewer interpretation.

    And explicitly stated that there were only so many universes similar enough to slip into. Not like he didn't want to do the work, but literally only possble a very small number of times. That makes the interpretation flawed at best.

    As I mentioned before:
    It's kind of the same way with Ricks finding replacement Morties (or Summers): they're definitely out there...but the work required to find a suitable one is more than the work required for Rick to keep his Morty (or Summer) alive.

    Which is something Rick also explicitly states in S3:E2.

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  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    Mvrck wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Gnizmo wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Bursar wrote: »
    For all the hate Rick gives Jerry for "ruining Beth's life," he doesn't seem to realize that Morty wouldn't exist if Jerry and Beth hadn't gotten married. Rick having a Morty seems to be one of the constants of the multiverse.

    Which makes your wonder what the Rick is like in the universe where Jerry is snorting coke with Johnny Depp and Beth is a famous cardiac surgeon.

    Maybe that's Doofus Rick's universe?

    Dead because he has no Dumb Field protection?

    Though I guess he could just get a Morty of his own, there doesn't seem to be any shortage of Rick-less Morties at this point.

    In a reality where there are infinite universes, there are infinite Ricks and infinite Morties. What this means is that there will always be a Morty for a Rick.

    Not all infinite sets are equal.

    Infinity is a really funny concept is the short version. Infinite realities doesn't mean every reality you can conceive of is the short version. We have confimation in show about the morty in show as well. In the first Rick council episode Rick C137 states that most universes have a Rick, and most Rick's have a Morty. We also have seen a Rick who had a Morty from an alternate universe.

    Infinite realities also means that there are infinite universes that don't have a Rick or a Morty. Basically, infinite possibilities also means infinite universes of all contingencies. It's just that, as Rick mentioned WAAAAAAY back in the Cronenburging of Earth episode, it's a matter of finding one that's desirable/close enough to the universe you want to inhabit. It's kind of the same way with Ricks finding replacement Morties (or Summers): they're definitely out there...but the work required to find a suitable one is more than the work required for Rick to keep his Morty (or Summer) alive.

    There are infinite numbers between 0 and 1, but none of those numbers are greater than 1. Infinite sets do not necessarily mean infinite variations.

    Except it's explicitly stated by Rick that there are infinite universes with infinite possibilities. So, yeah...I'm going with internal consistency instead of viewer interpretation.

    The Council of Ricks mention the Central Finite Curve though. Which is probably the Rick's/Universes that are sufficiently similar to be compatible.

    The way I think about the Central Finite Curve is basically this - our universe is infinite. But that doesn't mean we can actually get everywhere (within its lifetime or whatever). Due to the limits on how information can be transmitted, there is a distinct area that is possible to reach (and even when you reach that point, the universe will stretch infinitely in every direction, just centered differently).

    Infinite universes are the same way - there's just limitations to how far away from your current one you can get to. So yeah, there's some ones without Rick/Morty/etc they can get to, but due to the metaphysics of how infinite universes work, it's easier to jump to closer ones (and maybe easier to get better granularity?)

    Basically, an easy handwave bullshit bullshit for why we tend to deal with universes with other Ricks.

  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    Jragghen wrote: »
    Mvrck wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Gnizmo wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Bursar wrote: »
    For all the hate Rick gives Jerry for "ruining Beth's life," he doesn't seem to realize that Morty wouldn't exist if Jerry and Beth hadn't gotten married. Rick having a Morty seems to be one of the constants of the multiverse.

    Which makes your wonder what the Rick is like in the universe where Jerry is snorting coke with Johnny Depp and Beth is a famous cardiac surgeon.

    Maybe that's Doofus Rick's universe?

    Dead because he has no Dumb Field protection?

    Though I guess he could just get a Morty of his own, there doesn't seem to be any shortage of Rick-less Morties at this point.

    In a reality where there are infinite universes, there are infinite Ricks and infinite Morties. What this means is that there will always be a Morty for a Rick.

    Not all infinite sets are equal.

    Infinity is a really funny concept is the short version. Infinite realities doesn't mean every reality you can conceive of is the short version. We have confimation in show about the morty in show as well. In the first Rick council episode Rick C137 states that most universes have a Rick, and most Rick's have a Morty. We also have seen a Rick who had a Morty from an alternate universe.

    Infinite realities also means that there are infinite universes that don't have a Rick or a Morty. Basically, infinite possibilities also means infinite universes of all contingencies. It's just that, as Rick mentioned WAAAAAAY back in the Cronenburging of Earth episode, it's a matter of finding one that's desirable/close enough to the universe you want to inhabit. It's kind of the same way with Ricks finding replacement Morties (or Summers): they're definitely out there...but the work required to find a suitable one is more than the work required for Rick to keep his Morty (or Summer) alive.

    There are infinite numbers between 0 and 1, but none of those numbers are greater than 1. Infinite sets do not necessarily mean infinite variations.

    Except it's explicitly stated by Rick that there are infinite universes with infinite possibilities. So, yeah...I'm going with internal consistency instead of viewer interpretation.

    The Council of Ricks mention the Central Finite Curve though. Which is probably the Rick's/Universes that are sufficiently similar to be compatible.

    The way I think about the Central Finite Curve is basically this - our universe is infinite. But that doesn't mean we can actually get everywhere (within its lifetime or whatever). Due to the limits on how information can be transmitted, there is a distinct area that is possible to reach (and even when you reach that point, the universe will stretch infinitely in every direction, just centered differently).

    Infinite universes are the same way - there's just limitations to how far away from your current one you can get to. So yeah, there's some ones without Rick/Morty/etc they can get to, but due to the metaphysics of how infinite universes work, it's easier to jump to closer ones (and maybe easier to get better granularity?)

    Basically, an easy handwave bullshit bullshit for why we tend to deal with universes with other Ricks.

    They may also consider all universes that are nearly identical to just be the same thing as far as they're concerned. When they summon Rick C137, there are actually an infinite (or very large) number of Councils summoning an infinite number of Rick C137s. As long as exactly one Rick shows up, they don't need to care.

    When Rick moved himself and Morty to a nearly identical universe, he may have been jumping to an entirely different parallel curve, one with its own parallel Council.

  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    edited August 2017
    Look.
    There are simply more infinite copies of a young dude then there are of an old dude.
    The old dude is dying off.
    This is simple back-of-the-napkin multiverse mechanics guys

    discrider on
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