Girlfriend and I adored this movie. We saw it in IMAX and it was really, really good.
The casting for all of the kids was on point. The things that changed from the novel were good changes, and I didn't mind anything in particular.
Edit: Spoilered for novel nitpicks:
I wish they had gone a little bit more into the power of belief and how that affects the town of Derry, and IT in general. We saw it a little bit in the final encounter where Bill fires the empty stun gun at IT and it works anyways because Bill believes it's loaded. I wish they had gone more into that side of things, but really it's such a minor nitpick that I'm okay with it.
On my way to way work today after watching this last night, I have to walk past a flower stand, normally no big deal
Today; big red floating balloon tied to it.
Then later today im serving someone at a till, no balloons anywhere in the shop. I grab something from under the till, pop back up and then Bam, balloon slowly floating past some shelves of stuff in front of me (turned out a child was carrying it and couldnt be seen because of the shelves)
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On my way to way work today after watching this last night, I have to walk past a flower stand, normally no big deal
Today; big red floating balloon tied to it.
Then later today im serving someone at a till, no balloons anywhere in the shop. I grab something from under the till, pop back up and then Bam, balloon slowly floating past some shelves of stuff in front of me (turned out a child was carrying it and couldnt be seen because of the shelves)
if I never post again, please check the sewers for my corpse.
Just got back. It's a macabre bildungsroman, basically, drained of the more infamous scenes of the old novel
(like the awkward homosexual antics within the Bowers Gang or the infamous scene where Bev earns her previously unearned reputation by screwing all of the Losers in the sewer after putting IT to sleep).
, but it's a story about growing up and each kid has their own mini-arc, some better developed than others. The novel was a doorstopper (i never read it), but now i understand why, because there's a sizable cast with a lot going on with each kid.
I've never seen the miniseries either (just clips on Youtube), but i definitely feel like Skarsgaard's performance was not particularly memorable. His clown isn't especially "funny" compared to Tim Curry's, which more readily cracked jokes and just seemed to be having more fun, dangerous, scary fun. Skarsgaard was just the stock horror movie psycho in that regard, but they did a good job applying a lot of the standard horror movie tropes to his monster, like unnatural movements and good jump-scare editing.
Their IT seems a bit different in his powers and motives. The novel version
was a lovecraftian horror who fed on the flesh and only cared about the fear because it was more fun that way.
This one seems actually to feed on the fear and shrink in the face of courage, and his origin is unexplained.
The movie is definitely more contemporary, given that King's novel was written about 50's kids being scared by things that would scare stereotypical 50's kids, so you get the Wolfman and the Creature from the Black Lagoon and stuff that doesn't hold water at all anymore, even for kids. This one eschews that for fears based on the children's arcs, like Bev's hangups around her changing body, Eddie's hypochondria, Bill's guilt about Georgie, Stanley's specific fear of a creepy painting in his father's office, and Ben's fascination with the town's dark past. Only Richie stays the same because clowns are still scary.
It's a worthwhile watch, although it's disturbing more than chilling, though your mileage varies on what actually counts as real fear and horror (to me, something like Blair Witch Project is maximum scary, and stuff like The Conjuring gets closer. I prefer supernatural and i prefer it when the danger is obscured, so that it is mostly the protagonists facing their own fears amplified by the thing that's stalking them). Good movie with good characters and some stuff that i'm sure will be memeworthy (one of the only truly funny things Pennywise does is when we first meet him in his lair and he does this hilariously bizarre dance with a stone-cold serious look on his face).
I just got out and loved it. So many little book nods and things. Even had two turtles.
Mike seeing Pennywise right before almost getting hit with a car was the scariest for me. Those glowing eyes! Loved that they changed to blue when he was trying to convince Georgie.
I'm down with seeing a new one of these just every 27 years or so.
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Regarding Pennywise's feeding habits re: the book
In the book it's never really explained how Pennywise works. Are the things he causes you to see real or just illusions? When is it one, or the other? Why the cycle? How does he feed? That said, there is a lot of speculation on this by the characters, especially the adult Mike Hanlon, who spends years studying Derry, its history, and the nature of Pennywise. His conclusion about It's feeding is that fear, emotion, is what sustains it. However form dictates nature, to an extent. If It takes the form of a werewolf, based on a child's fear, that form also inherits the child's belief that a werewolf can be killed by silver. And, Mike reasons, if most children's idea of a monster is something that eats your flesh... It will eat your flesh. But he concludes this isn't enough, as many of the children (and adults) killed by It are merely dismembered, not eaten. Those that are eaten are usually only partially eaten. So It is feeding on something else, and its devouring of flesh is just a case of its behavior being somewhat shaped by the belief of its victims.
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Just one question - should I read IT or watch the existing adaptations before seeing this? Or better as a virgin?
Unless you're a really, really fast reader you'll probably want to see the movie first.
Otherwise, you're going to be getting it from a redbox.
The book is a doorstop.
I think the Audible version is either 44 or 60 hours long. I forget as I have a lot of King books in my Audible collection. But IT was not a short story by any means. King was on a lot of blow when he wrote the book and its hyper detailed and creepy fetishist in parts.
It is 45 hours. I just listened to it again.
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This might be my favourite movie of the year. Just, holy shit. Poifs.
The decision to split it in half was smrt, but I kinda can't wait to see the fan edit of a 'novel cut'
I really liked the small details and stuff happening in the background, like when Ben is reading the scary stuff in the library, an old lady in the background turns towards him, starts grinning and rubbing her hands.
The way IT is dumbfounded when it realizes these kids conquer their fears in the house is great as well. IT is vurnerable for the first time, has to rethink IT's strategy and enlists Henry to kill them for IT.
I just wish Henry had a little more impact in the finale.
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One part from the books that would definitely never fit in the movie that I still liked was
The vision quest the kids go on to see when It first comes to the planet like this horrible calamity. And now that they have a decent budget, the true form will probably look a little better than that stop motion Gumby looking spider from the miniseries.
Movie It was much more subdued, more like a Freddy Krueger. Obviously book It had a lot more depth to it what with the thousand extra pages of space. I'd like to see something like those old Lord of the Rings mini lore vignettes explaining the past of Derry. Get some old guy with a Marlboro voice to rasp out the history of Murdertown, Maine with sepia illustrations of the ironworks and the Black Spot.
I saw a reviewer say this and I agree: this movie feels very much like a horror adventure movie, a cross between The Goonies and Poltergeist.
They really nailed the coming of age feeling that those adventure movies from the 80s had. I was very worried that this film wouldn't be interested in the characters or that Pennywise wouldn't be scary, but I think they nailed both of those things.
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One part from the books that would definitely never fit in the movie that I still liked was
The vision quest the kids go on to see when It first comes to the planet like this horrible calamity. And now that they have a decent budget, the true form will probably look a little better than that stop motion Gumby looking spider from the miniseries.
Movie It was much more subdued, more like a Freddy Krueger. Obviously book It had a lot more depth to it what with the thousand extra pages of space. I'd like to see something like those old Lord of the Rings mini lore vignettes explaining the past of Derry. Get some old guy with a Marlboro voice to rasp out the history of Murdertown, Maine with sepia illustrations of the ironworks and the Black Spot.
Apparently the director fought for this scene but cgi would have too expensive.
One part from the books that would definitely never fit in the movie that I still liked was
The vision quest the kids go on to see when It first comes to the planet like this horrible calamity. And now that they have a decent budget, the true form will probably look a little better than that stop motion Gumby looking spider from the miniseries.
Movie It was much more subdued, more like a Freddy Krueger. Obviously book It had a lot more depth to it what with the thousand extra pages of space. I'd like to see something like those old Lord of the Rings mini lore vignettes explaining the past of Derry. Get some old guy with a Marlboro voice to rasp out the history of Murdertown, Maine with sepia illustrations of the ironworks and the Black Spot.
Apparently the director fought for this scene but cgi would have too expensive.
Meh, you could've gotten around that. Like, sepia-toned animation in the style of the "Three Brothers" sequence from Harry Potter part 7.
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I'm cool with the omission. I liked the resolution here more than the book version. Spoilers for second half and book
if they reeeeally want to, they could include it as part of the adult half, to make the climax of that movie feel very distinct from this one. The vision quest on It's origins is necessary for the ritual they use to fight it, and since this one ended with no ritual it makes sense not to have the vision quest either. If the adults do it, then we get them armed with more information than the kids have, so they're capable of killing It instead of just harming the thing,
and the climax of that movie is a lot more abstract and less physical. It's almost like they reversed the action of both scenes, with the kids having a physical confrontation and the adults having a psychic one. Noticed that Bev gets entranced by the deadlights inside It, which I don't remember happening in the kids half at all?
Also, unrelated, I looooved that this didn't do the modern horror movie thing of a BOO big spooky jumpscare for the cut to credits. It would have been justified with the second half upcoming, but instead they went for the much more subdued way of showing it with the simple title card.
Oh brilliant
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Hello looking at how much it made they can go and reboot stuff to put on the blu ray or save doe the sequel
I really liked ITs portrayal in this version. It had barely the thinnest of veneer of acting human. Made him seem much more eldritch and plain old "evil clown"
$117 million domestic opening weekend on a $35 million production budget. Between It and Get Out, it looks like "good horror" movies are really scratching an itch for the public these days.
So now comes the "fun" part...what are the "wrong" lessons Hollywood will learn from this?
Producer: *looks at receipts for It, looks at receipts for Dark Tower* "So we reboot Dark Tower, right, but this time Roland fights a clown who's into Anthrax..."
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Watched it this afternoon, and it was really good. All of the individual moments played well, even if some of the film logic was a bit, "Okay, this guy does X because we need him to be in place Y."
I also don't know if some of It's motivations make sense, as It kind of seems to kill its victims right away unless the story requires it not to. I also don't know if the few bits showing the POWER OF BELIEF make sense if you haven't read the book.
But none of those issues got in the way of my enjoying the hell out of this, especially compared with the cheesy as fuck miniseries version.
I thought that really worked, especially as IT became unhinged at the end when the kids all fucked him up and he started losing control of his shapes, turning into the wrong fear for the wrong kids and randomly becoming half lobster for a second.
I don't think that was random, I think that was It's true form slipping through.
Watched it this afternoon, and it was really good. All of the individual moments played well, even if some of the film logic was a bit, "Okay, this guy does X because we need him to be in place Y."
I also don't know if some of It's motivations make sense, as It kind of seems to kill its victims right away unless the story requires it not to. I also don't know if the few bits showing the POWER OF BELIEF make sense if you haven't read the book.
But none of those issues got in the way of my enjoying the hell out of this, especially compared with the cheesy as fuck miniseries version.
Yeah, there are some nits to pick, and I'm sure my knowledge of the book helped me understand stuff better than folks who haven't read it, but I do think they really nailed the spirit of the book and made an enjoyable movie based off the source material.
Yep. I really felt the friendship between the Losers, and It was legit unsettling. I didn't find it especially scary, but then I didn't find the book very scary, either. It still captured the spirit and tone of the book really well.
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But seriously - most important question.
Who hangs a painting like that in their study?
That father is the true monster for his taste in art.
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In terms of scariness, how does this compare to, say, Stranger Things? I'm trying to figure out whether my wife would be up to this; she's not really into horror or scary things in general, but she greatly enjoyed Stranger Things.
"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
It's scarier than Stranger Things, but that's not really a high bar.
If Stranger Things were a unit of measurement for scariness, I'd give IT 1.5 - 2 Stranger Things.
If she liked Stranger Things I doubt she'd have trouble with IT. Lots of loud noises and jump scares, but nothing that's gonna haunt you for days or anything.
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The casting for all of the kids was on point. The things that changed from the novel were good changes, and I didn't mind anything in particular.
Edit: Spoilered for novel nitpicks:
The Stranger Things kid was actually my least favourite. The joke delivery felt super forced and I thought Eddie was actually much funnier...
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Today; big red floating balloon tied to it.
Then later today im serving someone at a till, no balloons anywhere in the shop. I grab something from under the till, pop back up and then Bam, balloon slowly floating past some shelves of stuff in front of me (turned out a child was carrying it and couldnt be seen because of the shelves)
if I never post again, please check the sewers for my corpse.
Um, no. I ain't going down there. Sorry.
I've never seen the miniseries either (just clips on Youtube), but i definitely feel like Skarsgaard's performance was not particularly memorable. His clown isn't especially "funny" compared to Tim Curry's, which more readily cracked jokes and just seemed to be having more fun, dangerous, scary fun. Skarsgaard was just the stock horror movie psycho in that regard, but they did a good job applying a lot of the standard horror movie tropes to his monster, like unnatural movements and good jump-scare editing.
Their IT seems a bit different in his powers and motives. The novel version
The movie is definitely more contemporary, given that King's novel was written about 50's kids being scared by things that would scare stereotypical 50's kids, so you get the Wolfman and the Creature from the Black Lagoon and stuff that doesn't hold water at all anymore, even for kids. This one eschews that for fears based on the children's arcs, like Bev's hangups around her changing body, Eddie's hypochondria, Bill's guilt about Georgie, Stanley's specific fear of a creepy painting in his father's office, and Ben's fascination with the town's dark past. Only Richie stays the same because clowns are still scary.
It's a worthwhile watch, although it's disturbing more than chilling, though your mileage varies on what actually counts as real fear and horror (to me, something like Blair Witch Project is maximum scary, and stuff like The Conjuring gets closer. I prefer supernatural and i prefer it when the danger is obscured, so that it is mostly the protagonists facing their own fears amplified by the thing that's stalking them). Good movie with good characters and some stuff that i'm sure will be memeworthy (one of the only truly funny things Pennywise does is when we first meet him in his lair and he does this hilariously bizarre dance with a stone-cold serious look on his face).
Mike seeing Pennywise right before almost getting hit with a car was the scariest for me. Those glowing eyes! Loved that they changed to blue when he was trying to convince Georgie.
I'm down with seeing a new one of these just every 27 years or so.
It is 45 hours. I just listened to it again.
The decision to split it in half was smrt, but I kinda can't wait to see the fan edit of a 'novel cut'
(Book spoilers for both IT and The Dark Tower)
The way IT is dumbfounded when it realizes these kids conquer their fears in the house is great as well. IT is vurnerable for the first time, has to rethink IT's strategy and enlists Henry to kill them for IT.
I just wish Henry had a little more impact in the finale.
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They really nailed the coming of age feeling that those adventure movies from the 80s had. I was very worried that this film wouldn't be interested in the characters or that Pennywise wouldn't be scary, but I think they nailed both of those things.
Apparently the director fought for this scene but cgi would have too expensive.
Meh, you could've gotten around that. Like, sepia-toned animation in the style of the "Three Brothers" sequence from Harry Potter part 7.
and the climax of that movie is a lot more abstract and less physical. It's almost like they reversed the action of both scenes, with the kids having a physical confrontation and the adults having a psychic one. Noticed that Bev gets entranced by the deadlights inside It, which I don't remember happening in the kids half at all?
Also, unrelated, I looooved that this didn't do the modern horror movie thing of a BOO big spooky jumpscare for the cut to credits. It would have been justified with the second half upcoming, but instead they went for the much more subdued way of showing it with the simple title card.
There's just too much stuff and too many characters for it to be a movie.
I mean they made a freakin' TV series out of The Mist and it's only a 134-page novella.
That is all.
Bring on Chapter Two
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Clowns are the in thing now.
Some of the 80s music cuts felt really silly
Nothing that they aren't already doing in spades - shoveling jump-scare horror and 80's reboots at us.
http://variety.com/2017/film/news/it-box-office-stephen-king-movie-opening-weekend-1202553361/
Producer: *looks at receipts for It, looks at receipts for Dark Tower* "So we reboot Dark Tower, right, but this time Roland fights a clown who's into Anthrax..."
Clowns are in, so is murdering kids. Every movie now has a clown and dead kids.
Coming this fall...
Kiddie Klown Massacre
Rock-a-DIE, baby...
That tag line had to be used by a b-list horror movie by now.
I also don't know if some of It's motivations make sense, as It kind of seems to kill its victims right away unless the story requires it not to. I also don't know if the few bits showing the POWER OF BELIEF make sense if you haven't read the book.
But none of those issues got in the way of my enjoying the hell out of this, especially compared with the cheesy as fuck miniseries version.
Yeah, there are some nits to pick, and I'm sure my knowledge of the book helped me understand stuff better than folks who haven't read it, but I do think they really nailed the spirit of the book and made an enjoyable movie based off the source material.
Who hangs a painting like that in their study?
That father is the true monster for his taste in art.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
If Stranger Things were a unit of measurement for scariness, I'd give IT 1.5 - 2 Stranger Things.
If she liked Stranger Things I doubt she'd have trouble with IT. Lots of loud noises and jump scares, but nothing that's gonna haunt you for days or anything.