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  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    ...Does the skip button on the roulette actually work? Because I think it's there just to mock me.

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  • MummBrahMummBrah Registered User regular
    Spectrum wrote: »
    MummBrah wrote: »
    Also I now own Noctis's OSB and his doublestrike LM

    Is there a most effective way to crush skulls with him? Not sure how the Armiger effect works
    Ideally have someone else on the team who can provide party Blinks or Stoneskin also while Noctis spams Omega Drive as hard as possible (with sufficient ATK boosts to get to a decent multiplier). You may not have Omege Drive, in which case Full Charge is actually acceptable because of the cast speed bonus he gets while Armiger is active.

    I believe with the absurd luck I've had on the last few banners getting Omega Drive shouldn't be too bad

    Is the idea to try and get his ATK as high as possible, then OSB and keep him in Armiger Mode as long as possible to go nuts with phys damage? If so then Auron's blink + draw USB or Seifer's draw BSB + USB combo would both be solid choices to do that I'd think

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  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    So, not having done any fest draws yet, here's the round-up of my discounted/free stuff:

    Tyro USB2
    Shadow USB
    Penelo USB

    Tidus OSB
    Vivi OSB
    Jecht OSB

    Sazh BSB
    Basch BSB
    Kimahri BSB
    Relm BSB
    Noctis BSB
    Paine BSB
    Deuce BSB
    Larsa BSB

    Vincent SSB1
    Cid XVI SSB

    Only one of which was a dupe.

    I made out like a fucking bandit.

  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    MummBrah wrote: »
    Spectrum wrote: »
    MummBrah wrote: »
    Also I now own Noctis's OSB and his doublestrike LM

    Is there a most effective way to crush skulls with him? Not sure how the Armiger effect works
    Ideally have someone else on the team who can provide party Blinks or Stoneskin also while Noctis spams Omega Drive as hard as possible (with sufficient ATK boosts to get to a decent multiplier). You may not have Omege Drive, in which case Full Charge is actually acceptable because of the cast speed bonus he gets while Armiger is active.

    I believe with the absurd luck I've had on the last few banners getting Omega Drive shouldn't be too bad

    Is the idea to try and get his ATK as high as possible, then OSB and keep him in Armiger Mode as long as possible to go nuts with phys damage? If so then Auron's blink + draw USB or Seifer's draw BSB + USB combo would both be solid choices to do that I'd think

    Alternatively, get him 3 bars and then just unload his OSB into itself as a fast casted huge bunch of burst damage.

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  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    Spectrum wrote: »
    https://www.ffrkcentral.com/blog/2017/09/24/official-farewell-post
    Most interesting part to me:
    Actual in-game data (news, abilities, etc...)

    When I created the site, one thing that was clear for me is that I didn't want to have to manually enter any data. Because DeNA didn't (and still don't) offer any API to fetch the data directly, you can only get info on equipment, relic draws, dungeons and enemies by playing the game. So I needed a little army of bots to play the game for me in order to get the data. So that's exactly what I did. And for the record, no FFRK Central user owned account was ever used by the datamining backend. I had my own accounts and they were more than enough.

    I had about 2,400 bots playing FFRK 24/7. When I say "play", I mean it. They were doing daily relic draws (both free and using Mythril), they were completing dungeons and beating enemies. Overall, we're talking about 14,906,500 battles fought and 2,113,000 relic draws performed.

    ...

    As I'm writing this, my bots have a total of 200,371 Mythril and 155,338,152,745 gil between themselves. Kinda makes you wish you could transfer them to other accounts, right ;). But despite what people might think, I've never once used my bots to fight my own battles in FFRK. I just couldn't bring myself to cheat.

    From the reddit thread:
    How did your bots defeat the tougher battles? Trial and error and learning? That's really impressive, if so.
    there's really not much verifications done serverside. Once I figured that part out, I just coded the bots to just hit the mobs for 9,999 until it went down. It was really dumb/simple. Here's the code: <LINK REMOVED>

    Funny story, I had to blacklist those timed fights that were published at the official FFRK website a while ago because all my bots were being listed on there with impossible numbers XD.

    Good lord.

  • MummBrahMummBrah Registered User regular
    Sazh BSB is fucking civilization

    That little chocobo and his Sazh-fro all giving the team boostga/faithga AND 2 instant commands to Sazh AND those sick debuff commands

    *fans self*

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  • MummBrahMummBrah Registered User regular
    ArcTangent wrote: »
    MummBrah wrote: »
    Spectrum wrote: »
    MummBrah wrote: »
    Also I now own Noctis's OSB and his doublestrike LM

    Is there a most effective way to crush skulls with him? Not sure how the Armiger effect works
    Ideally have someone else on the team who can provide party Blinks or Stoneskin also while Noctis spams Omega Drive as hard as possible (with sufficient ATK boosts to get to a decent multiplier). You may not have Omege Drive, in which case Full Charge is actually acceptable because of the cast speed bonus he gets while Armiger is active.

    I believe with the absurd luck I've had on the last few banners getting Omega Drive shouldn't be too bad

    Is the idea to try and get his ATK as high as possible, then OSB and keep him in Armiger Mode as long as possible to go nuts with phys damage? If so then Auron's blink + draw USB or Seifer's draw BSB + USB combo would both be solid choices to do that I'd think

    Alternatively, get him 3 bars and then just unload his OSB into itself as a fast casted huge bunch of burst damage.

    This seems like it makes the OSB + doublestrike LM combination into a staple for almost every Jump Start from now on lol

    At least until I get more options, I suspect Noctis is about to put me on his back for awhile

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  • SpectrumSpectrum Archer of Inferno Chaldea Rec RoomRegistered User regular
    ArcTangent wrote: »
    MummBrah wrote: »
    Spectrum wrote: »
    MummBrah wrote: »
    Also I now own Noctis's OSB and his doublestrike LM

    Is there a most effective way to crush skulls with him? Not sure how the Armiger effect works
    Ideally have someone else on the team who can provide party Blinks or Stoneskin also while Noctis spams Omega Drive as hard as possible (with sufficient ATK boosts to get to a decent multiplier). You may not have Omege Drive, in which case Full Charge is actually acceptable because of the cast speed bonus he gets while Armiger is active.

    I believe with the absurd luck I've had on the last few banners getting Omega Drive shouldn't be too bad

    Is the idea to try and get his ATK as high as possible, then OSB and keep him in Armiger Mode as long as possible to go nuts with phys damage? If so then Auron's blink + draw USB or Seifer's draw BSB + USB combo would both be solid choices to do that I'd think

    Alternatively, get him 3 bars and then just unload his OSB into itself as a fast casted huge bunch of burst damage.

    Auron's far more useful than Seifer in modern content. Not as much as you'd like is ST tauntable, what's going to break Noct's shield is usually AoE (so if it's elemental putting the appropriate resist accessory on him can help this, trade this against what his ATK ends up as). Just don't sell out too hard, you still need healer + support + boost in some combination.

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  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    FFXI Torment w/Jump Start lands Tuesday, should still be around for a couple days when Orbfest closes. This one has Spirit motes on the D300 and Bravery motes for the CMs.

  • Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    my fest stuff from the luckies and 30 was

    vanille bsb
    larsa bsb
    lenna bsb (dupe)

    vayne bsb
    maria bsb (dupe)

    lion usb
    noctis osb
    yda usb

    potato osb
    shelke bsb
    alph bsb
    exdeath bsb
    cid ssb goggles

    not as gamechanging as in my dreams, but a lot of good workhorse items in there. def worth 75 mythril.

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  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    edited September 2017
    Jragghen wrote: »
    So, not having done any fest draws yet, here's the round-up of my discounted/free stuff:


    I made out like a fucking bandit.

    Yeah, I hate you.

    Healer:
    Skipped

    BSB+:
    Garland
    Zidane2

    6*:
    Ramza USB

    30:
    Dupe Tidus OSB
    Dupe Shantotto BSB (and already Rosetta Stone'd the original)
    Ayame BSB
    Garland SSB

    Decent FF1 equipment improvement (as if that's ever a thing).
    Marginally better party noncharge over what I already had
    Great Ice BSB

    Stagnation ho. One relic that's any kind of marked improvement to almost anything. The FFXI Torment is REALLY going to be a joke for me now. Maybe the gem select draw itself will be kind, but I expect probably something like WoL's dumbass pink sword/11.

    ArcTangent on
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  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    Okay, reviewed the banners.

    Banner 1: Only one dupe, some nice holy stuff, I just....well, frankly I value FFI and II stuff less because they're so infrequent, and I've got plenty of III. Going to sit on it.
    Banner 2: So tempting. I've got Terra's OSB and that BSB that was part of the 11 draw, but no enFire. Despite chasing, I've got only Bartz's SSB. Celes' BSB would be much needed ice. Mog's BSB is great. But I'm up to 3 dupes on here now, which is my barrier of entry.
    Banner 3: Absolute definite draw. Cloud USB chance, plus largest concentration of ice stuff, which is what I most need. 1 dupe makes this a no brainer.
    Banner 4: Waffling, leaning go, just because I've chased Orichalcum Dirk so much and I have 0 dupes, and there's a ton of nice stuff here. Sidenote: The hell does Balthier have two BSBs?
    Banner 5 is out, sadly. 4 dupes is just a tad too many, and as much as I want Raines' burst or some of those USB/OSB, just not worth it. If only the top end of the banner would please me, then the banner is out.

    I'll have enough for 3 draws. So right now, thinking one draw on 2, one on 3, and one on 4.

  • MummBrahMummBrah Registered User regular
    I think banner 3 is the definite winner of the 5 for sure, just in terms of the sheer number of universally good choices

    I don't have anything off banner 5 yet so that's looking like my other choice for sure, lots of great stuff there

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    edited September 2017
    Ok. I actually put a second Magic Boost in my team, and gave Fujin Scholar's Boon. Now she's doing 34000 with Into the Storm, and capping the hits on Gust and Raging Storm. A considerable improvement, with further room to grow if I ever do her Legend Dive at least halfway. Can't decide between teaming her up with Alphy and Papalymo, or Rapha and Onion. Rapha can't provide Radiant Shield, but Phantasm can do more per cast than Papalymo probably can with 6 shots of Meltdown.

    Enlong on
  • Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    I think I'm going 3 and 4.

    I do have 3 dupes on 3 but it's where the ice damage lives and I need the ice damage. Tiny Bee amusingly made 4 better for me once I stopped to think about it since I already had Yuna's BSB2 and +10 mnd is +10 mnd, but we shall see.

    I expect to come out of this fest with a lot more mythril than usual though, which is shocking given how crazy these banners looked from 6 months ago.

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited September 2017
    All in all I got for "free":

    Tidus CSB
    Balthier OSB
    Aerith USB
    Seifer USB
    Vaan USB

    Penelo BSB
    Aphmau BSB
    Sazh BSB
    Ace BSB
    Gogo BSB

    Not a single SSB in the bunch, no dupes to be found, and a total of five 6* relics over 3 LD + the 30 draw. Not a bad haul if I do say so myself.

    Madican on
  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    MummBrah wrote: »
    I think banner 3 is the definite winner of the 5 for sure, just in terms of the sheer number of universally good choices

    I don't have anything off banner 5 yet so that's looking like my other choice for sure, lots of great stuff there

    Banner 5 has some great stuff, and would be amazing if you don't have anything.

    Papalymo's BSB is the best mage fire burst in the game
    Gladolius's BSB is enEarth (which isn't super common), sentinel, and from my experience has done quite good damage - even below 99 he was my primary DPS against Hydra
    Noctis' BSB I haven't really test driven yet, but it seems quite nice, just designed to work with his OSB.
    Alph's BSB is great, particularly given the commands are summon-typed.

    Take those out and layer against what I just got, and I just can't justify it.

  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    Madican wrote: »
    All in all I got for "free":

    Tidus CSB
    Balthier OSB
    Aerith USB
    Seifer USB
    Vaan USB

    Penelo BSB
    Aphmau BSB
    Sazh BSB
    Ace BSB
    Gogo BSB

    Not a single SSB in the bunch, no dupes to be found, and a total of five 6* relics over 3 LD + the 30 draw. Not a bad haul if I do say so myself.

    Hell, I'm super jealous of the CSB. I still have yet to get one of those.

  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    This Balthier BSB2 from the 30-pull is my new favorite toy that I had no idea I might want.
    Balthier - 7.68 /  8 - Fire/Non - RNG - Ranged - Imperil Fire
    Machinist- 0.60 /  2 - Fire/Non -  ST - Ranged - 25% to Minor Imperil Fire (10%)
    Machinist- 4.80 /  4 - Fire/Non -  ST - Ranged - With three uses of C1. Else 0.96, 2.16, 3.36 over 4.
    

    His Legend Dive gives him another 9% Fire Damage, and his LM1 is another 10% Fire Damage. His LM2 is "30% chance to cause Minor Imperil Fire (10%) to the target after using a Machinist ability on an enemy", so presumably that stacks with his C1. His LMR is 25% Dualcast Machinist.

    And there'll eventually be Heat Offer, a Machinist 5* ability that's essentially his C1, but with a 35% chance instead. And Burning Snipe, which is a Machinist 5* ability that does six hits of fire.

    And Balthier can use Swords. Like my brand new 6* stat stick sword with +fire.

    Godlike.


    Oh, and Papalymo's dive gives him 9% Fire, LM1 is 10% Fire, LM2 is 35% Dualcast Fire.

    I thought I was good on Fire options before, but I didn't know what Good Fire was. This is Good Fire. The only downside is Papalymo needs 1193 MAG to reach his 6 hit CM1 threshold. I don't know how I do that in a party with both him and Balthier. I'll probably just pair Balthier with Refia.

  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    How does Minor Imperil end up stacking with other Imperil types, by the by? Does it just keep adding up until it hits the cap of 3 with regular imperil?

  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    edited September 2017
    Jragghen wrote: »
    How does Minor Imperil end up stacking with other Imperil types, by the by? Does it just keep adding up until it hits the cap of 3 with regular imperil?

    Yeah, basically. Just a faster way to get to the imperil cap.

    And Balthiers BSB2 IS amazing. It's been hugely helpful on Sealion runs. If he didn't require DEX/VIT I'd have legend dived him weeks ago.

    Javen on
  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    Yeah, it stacks up, the cap remains 60%. His LMR would make this totally ridiculous, but I've no access to that. I would likely just run him with Lifesiphon plus Burning Snipe when that comes out.

  • chrisnlchrisnl Registered User regular
    Spectrum wrote: »
    Enlong wrote: »
    Spectrum wrote: »
    Enlong wrote: »
    I dunno about worst. My draw, the only thing I can use without luck on other banners is a dupe of Sephiroth's Glove.
    Dupe elemental booster is still good and even without en-wind that OSB can still heavily contribute to Golem at least.

    I'm doin' something wrong, because the best I can get Fujin to do with her OSB on Golem is 14K. At which point I might as well just swap her out for Ramza, to give more speedcasts to Setzer.
    What the absolute hell

    My non aura Fujin OSBs hit for 67k. Granted I'm full dived so she has higher base MAG and some +wind and +blk but still.

    The hell are you doing? Are you not taking any MAG boosts?

    In total what I have on her:
    Dive: +9% BLK, +9% Wind
    RM: +30% Wind
    Equipment: +20% Wind
    Magicite: +11.75% Wind
    And then 526 base MAG with 2 30% boosts

    That's a pretty nice Fujin, but I would just like to add that due to the way stacking works she would be better off using +30% damage to weakness than +30% damage to wind, if possible. You might be using that one on somebody else, in which case ignore me.

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    edited September 2017
    Changed the team up. Replaced Alphy and Popoto with Rapha and Mog. Mog has Faith.

    Fujin is now hitting Golem for 45K with Into the Storm. This will work. Still might tweak it, though; Alphy might be better for this than Rapha, due to damage reflection.

    Oh and it turns out that Relm's Divine Portrait is a good answer to Golem's interruption bullshit.

    Enlong on
  • mercurialchemistermercurialchemister Registered User regular
    Oh, right, Banner #1.

    Got Matoya's BSB from the 30 pull so I was on the fence about doing an 11 pull. Did my 100 gem:

    Maria BSB

    One of my most wanted relics for a long time, plus with 4 dupes the banner is a hard pass. Get to save some mythrils for the future.

    Son's account (0 dupes going in):
    2/11, both WoL USB
    2/11, Desch BSB and Leila BSB

    Not what we were aiming for but fine nevertheless

  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Stop getting good stuff from 100-gems. It tempts me more than it should.

  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    For farming: P1 is fire, P2 is Dark, P3 is White, apparently.

  • mercurialchemistermercurialchemister Registered User regular
    Enlong wrote: »
    Stop getting good stuff from 100-gems. It tempts me more than it should.

    I never post about my 100 gem blanks, which is basically every banner, so

  • TakelTakel Registered User regular
    So, my 75 mythril got me:

    Aphmau BSB
    Decil BSB
    Fujin OSB
    Ace USB
    Jecht OSB
    Luneth OSB

    Dupe Vanille BSB
    Dupe Yuffie BSB
    Dupe Ramza SSB (Shout)
    Dupe Faris SSB (Serpent's Gale)
    Dupe Balthier SSB (Strahl Strafe)

    Aphmau's BSB is interesting
    Decil is garbage tier. Will never see the light of day even in a Dark damage team
    Fujin OSB which won't see much use on account of being a common (to me) element type
    Ace USB which I'm pondering how I'll end up using in a team that would otherwise consist of the potato and his enFire BSB
    Jecht OSB which is.... yeah....
    and Luneth's OSB which is only saved by the fact that I lucked into his USB

    Almost half the crap I got were dupes and the other half are largely situational hits or outright misses so aside from the lucky Luneth's 6* stuff, I really haven't gained much power out of this fest.

    Oh well.

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  • ElderlycrawfishElderlycrawfish Registered User regular
    edited September 2017
    Well, I was gonna ask if I should legend dive Balthier since I also scored his BSB2, but that answers my question, thanks team.

    I already had his OSB and LMR so I guess duh, no brainer with the BSB2 plus the upcoming machinist abilities.


    I need to rethink my banner pulls after the 30-pull. I went from 2 dupes on banner 3 to 3, and 3 dupes on banner 4 to 4. It's a nice first world problem to have though. Yay loot!

    Elderlycrawfish on
  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    My haul:

    Healer:
    Aerith, Eiko, Yuna2, and Vanille BSBs

    BSB, USB, CSB:
    Ovelia USB

    6* only:
    Selphie USB
    Shantotto CSB

    30 pull:
    Larsa SSB1 (Hastega/Medica)
    Exdeath BSB
    Garnet BSB1
    Luneth OSB

    11 items with 3 Discos is statistically where I should be, so that helps puts things in perspective.

    The Lightning Chain should see some use, and while it's nice to have a bunch of good healing bursts, Y'shtola will probably still be my main healer for most things, since her Legend Dive makes her phenomenal at healing. I don't think I can go without w-cast Curadas anymore. Eiko can help boost physical damage a bit, and Yuna or Vanille fits in nicely on my mage teams. Vanille's instant-cast BSB entry could also be key to some fights. Remains to be seen if they can solo heal Magicites with no Legend Dives, with or without Enkidu backup.

    The healer USBs are nice stat sticks, but don't give me much in the way of new options.

    Larsa's medica is nice for CMs, but that's about it.

    Both of the BSBs are garbage, but are decent +element weapons (particularly Garnet's dagger).

    Luneth's OSB is a 6* +element weapon, which are premium items, but I don't think he can break into my Wind team or my FF3 CM team.

    So my Lightning team got a nice improvement, and that's probably it. Not a bad haul, but disappointing all the same, since it doesn't help me much with what I'm trying to do, so that's unfortunate. Feels like a giant missed opportunity.

    I'm now wondering which Fest banners to pull on, if any (leaning P2 and P5), what two Bursts to pick from the two selections, and how much to pull on FF15 banner (thinking two pulls, enough for the CM).

    Mostly the complexity of the game is starting to overwhelm me and I don't know what relics I need, only that what I have right now isn't good enough for top end content.

  • FrosteeyFrosteey Elaise 1521-2945-8940Registered User regular
    Omega Weapon is such a dumb fight.
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    Easiest 100,000 GIL of my life.

    The first time I successfully got him to Stop Phase things were going so smoothly I thought hey maybe they did the sensible thing and made Stop 100% hit rate against him. Then Stop missed on the turn that I would have killed him and I spent like 25 minutes before everything worked.

  • azith28azith28 Registered User regular
    So I've done the mythril dungeon, have enough for one of these anniversey banners. Would i be better off using the 50 mythril on the two 10+1 half price newcomer bundles or on one of the parade banners at 50 mythril a pop? if the parade, which one is best?

    Stercus, Stercus, Stercus, Morituri Sum
  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    Do NOT do the Newcomer draws. They're mostly full of old outdated garbage, whereas the Fest banners are all new hotness mostly.

  • FrosteeyFrosteey Elaise 1521-2945-8940Registered User regular
    The newcomer banners are garbage never touch them. Any of the anniversary banners would be a solid choice. #3 probably being the strongest in a vacuum just because of how dumb Cloud's dumb thing is, although other banners might have a better average relic quality depending on what you're looking for. But you could just pick based on which has your favorite characters and not really suffer for it.

  • TakelTakel Registered User regular
    Put in a free 30 draw and overload the servers.
    Give everyone 3 apology mythril to make up for the fact that people couldn't draw as fast as they'd like so that they can make more draws.


    I'm fine with that.

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    Oh good. I was hoping there would be some apology mithril.

  • BeastehBeasteh THAT WOULD NOT KILL DRACULARegistered User regular
    you mean apology bard motes

  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Beasteh wrote: »
    you mean apology bard mote

  • SpectrumSpectrum Archer of Inferno Chaldea Rec RoomRegistered User regular
    chrisnl wrote: »
    Spectrum wrote: »
    Enlong wrote: »
    Spectrum wrote: »
    Enlong wrote: »
    I dunno about worst. My draw, the only thing I can use without luck on other banners is a dupe of Sephiroth's Glove.
    Dupe elemental booster is still good and even without en-wind that OSB can still heavily contribute to Golem at least.

    I'm doin' something wrong, because the best I can get Fujin to do with her OSB on Golem is 14K. At which point I might as well just swap her out for Ramza, to give more speedcasts to Setzer.
    What the absolute hell

    My non aura Fujin OSBs hit for 67k. Granted I'm full dived so she has higher base MAG and some +wind and +blk but still.

    The hell are you doing? Are you not taking any MAG boosts?

    In total what I have on her:
    Dive: +9% BLK, +9% Wind
    RM: +30% Wind
    Equipment: +20% Wind
    Magicite: +11.75% Wind
    And then 526 base MAG with 2 30% boosts

    That's a pretty nice Fujin, but I would just like to add that due to the way stacking works she would be better off using +30% damage to weakness than +30% damage to wind, if possible. You might be using that one on somebody else, in which case ignore me.

    To quote an esteemed scholar in this thread "Tyro is a nerd".

    I'm not quite at the point where I can just raise random people to 99 for their RMs (Orlandeau was the closest and I was only chipping away at him), so 30% Wind is better than only having 20% Weakness.
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    Oh good. I was hoping there would be some apology mithril.
    It's sad but that 3 Mythril proofs out my budget for any randomness/having to fully extract everything from all the stages before pulling...

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