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Maybe I'm weird, but I used Mage Association to guarantee NP charge, and to give me an Arts chain when I needed it. I use Plugsuit in parties with Tanks or backline K-Scope Nukes or where I'm going to swap people, but otherwise I use Atlas for skill based teams or Mage Association (especially when farming) for instant NP charge and near guarenteed chains a lot.
I use plugsuit very nearly 100% of the time. It's not always optimal, but it's extremely good, and I always find myself missing the stun whenever I swap to anything else. And hell, how could there possibly be a better skill than "swap out a character for Waver"?
Admittedly, swapping characters takes long enough that I could see using mage association instead for farming, even if you have Waver.
StragintDo Not GiftAlways DeclinesRegistered Userregular
Absolute garbage pulls. It is a non stop ride of trash ever since the Scathach event. I did a 10 pull and then 8 tickets and 2 more pulls using up 6 quartz. Nothing of value was gained.
Looks like I'm gonna miss out on another limited servant that I really want.
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What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
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I was saving to try and pick up a caster down the road, but I lost my cool and burned all my resources on this banner, earning me nothing of value
StragintDo Not GiftAlways DeclinesRegistered Userregular
I really like the art for Edmond Dantes, I've liked the artist since Danganronpa. Gonna be really disappointed if I can't manage to get this one.
I tempted to drop $80 for a better attempt but that could just be a huge waste. I've also spent more on this game than I ever though I would on it. Also job searching.
Gotta hope those summon tickets get me there.
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What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
Maybe I'm weird, but I used Mage Association to guarantee NP charge, and to give me an Arts chain when I needed it. I use Plugsuit in parties with Tanks or backline K-Scope Nukes or where I'm going to swap people, but otherwise I use Atlas for skill based teams or Mage Association (especially when farming) for instant NP charge and near guarenteed chains a lot.
I usually run plugsuit for hand or door farming, since I can easily set up NP sweeps each turn that way (kaleido and MLB imaginary with Waver NP charging) and clear them in 3 turns each.
And yeah, it's nice to just press swap and bring in Euryale and whoops, where did the second challenge boss go (and looking ahead, she may be very useful to keep there, lots of male bosses for her to nuke)?
I need to buckle down on skills. Got Fox Wedding up to 8 (fucking pages...), Kintoki's first two skills up to 7 each, and Gilgamesh Charisma at 10, but then I have a whole lot of servants stuck in that 4-6 range and can't decide who to focus on.
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SpectrumArcher of InfernoChaldea Rec RoomRegistered Userregular
IMO, costs are such that there's insufficient value in going above 6 but not going to 10. Just sit on the mats until you decide to finally pull the trigger in one go, the marginal advantage isn't worth not being able to max ascend a rando who spooks you but who you decide you really need to use immediately.
IMO, costs are such that there's insufficient value in going above 6 but not going to 10. Just sit on the mats until you decide to finally pull the trigger in one go, the marginal advantage isn't worth not being able to max ascend a rando who spooks you but who you decide you really need to use immediately.
The thing is, I'm terrible, just terrible at saving mats. Plus I like being able to see the actual progress and exactly what mats are bottle-necking me without going to a wiki (it's hearts and pages and QP, usually in that order).
IMO, costs are such that there's insufficient value in going above 6 but not going to 10. Just sit on the mats until you decide to finally pull the trigger in one go, the marginal advantage isn't worth not being able to max ascend a rando who spooks you but who you decide you really need to use immediately.
Tell that to my 7/7/7 Jeanne.
,.,,I'm not sure I want to spent the Hearts to get to 10. I might max that third skill sometime.
I've been dumping my spare Archer embers into Euryale as advance prep for Camelot and decided to bring her with me to this second floor.
Boy she just dumpstered Fergus. Charm, 100K on the NP with a defense down, 50K two turns later for a kill. She even lived through his own Noble Phantasm.
Yeah, anyone who has leveled Euryale or Robin (or Orion) shouldn't have much trouble taking down Fergus. The chimeras might actually be a bigger problem.
I really can't remember how difficult this event gets, and I don't feel like looking it up. I'm definitely significantly more prepared on this account than I was previously, though. Mostly because of all of the stuff that we get early.
Yeah, anyone who has leveled Euryale or Robin (or Orion) shouldn't have much trouble taking down Fergus. The chimeras might actually be a bigger problem.
I really can't remember how difficult this event gets, and I don't feel like looking it up. I'm definitely significantly more prepared on this account than I was previously, though. Mostly because of all of the stuff that we get early.
I know one of the later nodes is Jeanne and Amakusa, so stall teams won't work on them because Amakusa's NP removes buffs before it hits.
Amusingly enough it's one of the nodes where Edmond gets to shine with class advantage though.
Yeah, anyone who has leveled Euryale or Robin (or Orion) shouldn't have much trouble taking down Fergus. The chimeras might actually be a bigger problem.
I really can't remember how difficult this event gets, and I don't feel like looking it up. I'm definitely significantly more prepared on this account than I was previously, though. Mostly because of all of the stuff that we get early.
I know one of the later nodes is Jeanne and Amakusa, so stall teams won't work on them because Amakusa's NP removes buffs before it hits.
Amusingly enough it's one of the nodes where Edmond gets to shine with class advantage though.
Well, you just need to break Amakusa first to stall. Does ruler defense save him from Orion?
Of course once he's down Jeanne is hardly a threat anyways.
Orion is just straight better than Euryale at the anti-male niche, cost concerns aside, while also being tankier and doing more damage against everything else.
Yeah, anyone who has leveled Euryale or Robin (or Orion) shouldn't have much trouble taking down Fergus. The chimeras might actually be a bigger problem.
I really can't remember how difficult this event gets, and I don't feel like looking it up. I'm definitely significantly more prepared on this account than I was previously, though. Mostly because of all of the stuff that we get early.
I know one of the later nodes is Jeanne and Amakusa, so stall teams won't work on them because Amakusa's NP removes buffs before it hits.
Amusingly enough it's one of the nodes where Edmond gets to shine with class advantage though.
Well, you just need to break Amakusa first to stall. Does ruler defense save him from Orion?
Of course once he's down Jeanne is hardly a threat anyways.
Orion/Waver/Tamamo with Atlus Uniform will work well against Amakusa by preventing him from ever using his Noble Phantasm.
Orion is just straight better than Euryale at the anti-male niche, cost concerns aside, while also being tankier and doing more damage against everything else.
Euryale is just much easier to get.
Of course since I can't use friend supports for most of these... Euryale is my only option. Still, she brings damage and disable so...
Yeah, anyone who has leveled Euryale or Robin (or Orion) shouldn't have much trouble taking down Fergus. The chimeras might actually be a bigger problem.
I really can't remember how difficult this event gets, and I don't feel like looking it up. I'm definitely significantly more prepared on this account than I was previously, though. Mostly because of all of the stuff that we get early.
I know one of the later nodes is Jeanne and Amakusa, so stall teams won't work on them because Amakusa's NP removes buffs before it hits.
Amusingly enough it's one of the nodes where Edmond gets to shine with class advantage though.
Well, you just need to break Amakusa first to stall. Does ruler defense save him from Orion?
Of course once he's down Jeanne is hardly a threat anyways.
Gamepress puts NP1 buffs-only-by-themselves Orion's damage vs. Male Rulers as 26,210. (That's 52,421 vs. neutral males and 104,841 vs. male Sabers, for reference.)
So, uh, probably not? Although this is a case where it's worth pointing out that while Rulers are resistant to most classes, they still take 1.5x damage from Berserkers. There's a notable leap in the charts were the top four are Kintoki (66k), Lu Bu (64k), Heracles (51k), and Vlad (27k).
Quickly calcing the math for the support Dantes, we're looking at...
12,641ATK*1.1 class mod*2 advantage*0.27 arbitrary attack modifier*1.4 attack buff*600% NP mod*0.8 Quick mod
Roundabout 50k damage or so? (Do note that he's doing this to both Rulers, and can ignore Invincibility.)
I think personally I can probably nuke him down pretty quickly with my NP3 Herc, but otherwise actually relying on Edmond wouldn't be the worst idea.
Dantes then plugsuit for herc and hope for the buster NP brave chain of doom?
Basically, because Heracles's usual immortality won't matter if Amakusa gets his NP off. But if Heracles comes out afterwards, alone, then I think he could wipe the floor with them both.
Dantes then plugsuit for herc and hope for the buster NP brave chain of doom?
Basically, because Heracles's usual immortality won't matter if Amakusa gets his NP off. But if Heracles comes out afterwards, alone, then I think he could wipe the floor with them both.
Eh, he's got low enough hit points that I figure that my Herc can hopefully nuke him in one turn. (Maybe I'll do the buff-Herc-turn-1-then-Plugsuit-to-backline thing, so I can get more buffs up?)
The big problem is probably going to be the invulnerability, to be honest, but keeping Dantes out for that is probably a good idea.
But hey, that's a while from now. Plenty of time to think of something.
I'ma huge fan of using my lvl90 Nero on hard quests that need or could use AoE clearing. Lvl10 Imperial Privilege EX is absurd when it procs, then you can add in Fox's Wedding and laugh. Plus triple Guts is so damn good.
She does, potentially, the highest AoE damage of any servant I have buffed while also doing a significant one turn defense debuff. And mine's only NP3 so far. I shudder to think of NP5 numbers if she graces me twice more at this year's Nerofest.
I had over 100 million QP from farming Black Cats. I have about 50 million left and that's only because I am refraining from leveling up Servant skills until I pick one and get them from 6-10. Even then between leveling and Ascending it's draining the coffers pretty well.
Thank goodness I got Mona Lisa. I get the feeling I'll be making damn good use of the doors once I buckle down and go for skills some more.
NP5 is +11% damage over NP3 pre-interlude, +9% post-interlude. So it's definitely something (turns 50k into 55k, for instance), but it's not quite that notable. Nice but not necessary, basically.
I got a second Stheno and I'm kind of unsure what to do with her. Do I just Rare Prism her or do I NP2 her to get that overcharge potential? It's not like getting a higher-level NP actually matters for her beyond that.
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NP5 is +11% damage over NP3 pre-interlude, +9% post-interlude. So it's definitely something (turns 50k into 55k, for instance), but it's not quite that notable. Nice but not necessary, basically.
I got a second Stheno and I'm kind of unsure what to do with her. Do I just Rare Prism her or do I NP2 her to get that overcharge potential? It's not like getting a higher-level NP actually matters for her beyond that.
I upgraded her to NP2 early on before I knew better, so sad
Floor 3 was pretty easy. I remembered that I regenerate one Command Spell per day so I went ahead and popped the NP one on Heracles and pointed him at a Defense-down Gilles with a Buster Brave chain.
Messy.
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SpectrumArcher of InfernoChaldea Rec RoomRegistered Userregular
Day 3, same as the other days
Ushi+Little Halloween Devil / Waver+2030 / Shishou+Imaginary Around / Plugsuit + Shiki+Kscope
I'm going to be sad when this stops working for me on Day 5.
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Kevin CristI make the devil hit his kneesand say the 'our father'Registered Userregular
All three days has been the Mordred And Herc Power Hour. With mister " I wait and hope for people to take me seriously" doing whatever.
Day 3:
Plan: Herc NP
Result: Not enough damage. Needs more fous.
Herc ate demon NP. Okita came in and cleaned house. Turn 1: Chain to 100% NP because as always she has insane NP gen, turn 2 NP, turn 3 recharge, turn 4 NP... she's so good.
I Anne + Mary'd my way through this one; the second wave berserker was nice enough to bring them low enough to boost their NP to ridiculous levels, and she dutifully murdered the ever loving shit out of COOL before succumbing to that annoying assassin demon, with MHX and Waver having enough damage to clean up the rest.
NP5 is +11% damage over NP3 pre-interlude, +9% post-interlude. So it's definitely something (turns 50k into 55k, for instance), but it's not quite that notable. Nice but not necessary, basically.
I got a second Stheno and I'm kind of unsure what to do with her. Do I just Rare Prism her or do I NP2 her to get that overcharge potential? It's not like getting a higher-level NP actually matters for her beyond that.
I upgraded her to NP2 early on before I knew better, so sad
NP2 at least helps against ghosts and stuff since you can go above 100% charge. It's just that usually there's an increase in effectiveness alongside that.
Stheno just slightly ups her chance to instakill a single male, though (100%->125%), and single-target male-only death is kind of bad (the one time it would be useful is against high-HP mobs, but most aren't male).
People like to joke about Fionn being a rare prism, but at least upgrading his NP does something halfway useful.
Yep. Still Arts Memeing Tama/Nero/Vlad without a care in the world. Would substitute Nero for her Bride form if there was more bosses, less high-hp adds.
As a Gatcha Comment, I've been staying strong just keeping to this. And occasionally loging into Granblue for login bonuses despite not even doing anything.... because I really like the art. I've been staying strong not playing Granblue (this one slightly hurts), or Final Fantasy Record Keeper, or Fire Emblem Heroes, or anything else. Just Fate. I need to stick to just Fate.
If the upcoming BlazBlue Alternative: Dark War ever gets localized though.... I'm fucked.
As a Gatcha Comment, I've been staying strong just keeping to this. And occasionally loging into Granblue for login bonuses despite not even doing anything.... because I really like the art. I've been staying strong not playing Granblue (this one slightly hurts), or Final Fantasy Record Keeper, or Fire Emblem Heroes, or anything else. Just Fate. I need to stick to just Fate.
If the upcoming BlazBlue Alternative: Dark War ever gets localized though.... I'm fucked.
If a non-shit Kancolle alike ever gets localized I'm super duper fucked.
I Anne + Mary'd my way through this one; the second wave berserker was nice enough to bring them low enough to boost their NP to ridiculous levels, and she dutifully murdered the ever loving shit out of COOL before succumbing to that annoying assassin demon, with MHX and Waver having enough damage to clean up the rest.
As with any quest where the majority of the enemies are berserkers, my starting lineup was Cu & Cu (lancers) and then Santa Alter coming in once Avenger went down. He was my only casualty.
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Admittedly, swapping characters takes long enough that I could see using mage association instead for farming, even if you have Waver.
Tammy is in every Arts team though.
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Looks like I'm gonna miss out on another limited servant that I really want.
What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
whoooops
Oh well, I’ve still got Nero Bride.
This will be here until I receive an apology or Weedlordvegeta get any consequences for being a bully
I tempted to drop $80 for a better attempt but that could just be a huge waste. I've also spent more on this game than I ever though I would on it. Also job searching.
Gotta hope those summon tickets get me there.
What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
I usually run plugsuit for hand or door farming, since I can easily set up NP sweeps each turn that way (kaleido and MLB imaginary with Waver NP charging) and clear them in 3 turns each.
And yeah, it's nice to just press swap and bring in Euryale and whoops, where did the second challenge boss go (and looking ahead, she may be very useful to keep there, lots of male bosses for her to nuke)?
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Day 2: Ushi+Little Halloween Devil / Waver+2030 / Tesla+MLB Imaginary + Plugsuit in Orion+Kscope
Yeah, plugsuit's pretty good.
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In other news, decided to start using some of my accumulated Lore because it's not doing any good unspent. RIP my QP
You are gonna be so prepared for Gawain.
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The thing is, I'm terrible, just terrible at saving mats. Plus I like being able to see the actual progress and exactly what mats are bottle-necking me without going to a wiki (it's hearts and pages and QP, usually in that order).
Tell that to my 7/7/7 Jeanne.
,.,,I'm not sure I want to spent the Hearts to get to 10. I might max that third skill sometime.
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Boy she just dumpstered Fergus. Charm, 100K on the NP with a defense down, 50K two turns later for a kill. She even lived through his own Noble Phantasm.
I really can't remember how difficult this event gets, and I don't feel like looking it up. I'm definitely significantly more prepared on this account than I was previously, though. Mostly because of all of the stuff that we get early.
I know one of the later nodes is Jeanne and Amakusa, so stall teams won't work on them because Amakusa's NP removes buffs before it hits.
Amusingly enough it's one of the nodes where Edmond gets to shine with class advantage though.
Well, you just need to break Amakusa first to stall. Does ruler defense save him from Orion?
Of course once he's down Jeanne is hardly a threat anyways.
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Euryale is just much easier to get.
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Orion/Waver/Tamamo with Atlus Uniform will work well against Amakusa by preventing him from ever using his Noble Phantasm.
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Of course since I can't use friend supports for most of these... Euryale is my only option. Still, she brings damage and disable so...
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Gamepress puts NP1 buffs-only-by-themselves Orion's damage vs. Male Rulers as 26,210. (That's 52,421 vs. neutral males and 104,841 vs. male Sabers, for reference.)
So, uh, probably not? Although this is a case where it's worth pointing out that while Rulers are resistant to most classes, they still take 1.5x damage from Berserkers. There's a notable leap in the charts were the top four are Kintoki (66k), Lu Bu (64k), Heracles (51k), and Vlad (27k).
Quickly calcing the math for the support Dantes, we're looking at...
I think personally I can probably nuke him down pretty quickly with my NP3 Herc, but otherwise actually relying on Edmond wouldn't be the worst idea.
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Basically, because Heracles's usual immortality won't matter if Amakusa gets his NP off. But if Heracles comes out afterwards, alone, then I think he could wipe the floor with them both.
Eh, he's got low enough hit points that I figure that my Herc can hopefully nuke him in one turn. (Maybe I'll do the buff-Herc-turn-1-then-Plugsuit-to-backline thing, so I can get more buffs up?)
The big problem is probably going to be the invulnerability, to be honest, but keeping Dantes out for that is probably a good idea.
But hey, that's a while from now. Plenty of time to think of something.
She does, potentially, the highest AoE damage of any servant I have buffed while also doing a significant one turn defense debuff. And mine's only NP3 so far. I shudder to think of NP5 numbers if she graces me twice more at this year's Nerofest.
UMU!
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Thank goodness I got Mona Lisa. I get the feeling I'll be making damn good use of the doors once I buckle down and go for skills some more.
I got a second Stheno and I'm kind of unsure what to do with her. Do I just Rare Prism her or do I NP2 her to get that overcharge potential? It's not like getting a higher-level NP actually matters for her beyond that.
I upgraded her to NP2 early on before I knew better, so sad
Messy.
Ushi+Little Halloween Devil / Waver+2030 / Shishou+Imaginary Around / Plugsuit + Shiki+Kscope
I'm going to be sad when this stops working for me on Day 5.
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Plan: Herc NP
Result: Not enough damage. Needs more fous.
Herc ate demon NP. Okita came in and cleaned house. Turn 1: Chain to 100% NP because as always she has insane NP gen, turn 2 NP, turn 3 recharge, turn 4 NP... she's so good.
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NP2 at least helps against ghosts and stuff since you can go above 100% charge. It's just that usually there's an increase in effectiveness alongside that.
Stheno just slightly ups her chance to instakill a single male, though (100%->125%), and single-target male-only death is kind of bad (the one time it would be useful is against high-HP mobs, but most aren't male).
People like to joke about Fionn being a rare prism, but at least upgrading his NP does something halfway useful.
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If the upcoming BlazBlue Alternative: Dark War ever gets localized though.... I'm fucked.
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