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[Overwatch] #13 - Hammond: 2cute2furry-ous

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  • jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    Musicool wrote: »
    Musicool wrote: »
    Jesus christ I really wish they'd just delete Mei. Or remove her from comp.

    Instant Unfun Button for Overwatch, especially now that her freeze is stupidly OP and her ult is p much unavoidable by 90% of the characters.

    Just remember this: when you get frozen and headshot, if that Mei had been a Reaper you would have just bee dead even faster.

    Nope, because I can destroy the shit out of Reaper quite often, especially as a tank or Brig. I have an easier time dealing with Tracer than Mei, because Mei's normal powerset destroys your ability to control at all.

    But Mei, nope, not only will you not kill her, but then you have to wait for her invulnerable cocoon to drop after god knows how long and hope she can't instantly wall off before getting any hits in.

    She's a miserable, game ruining, shit character. She was fine to deal with before, but now she can freeze anything within her cone and it's a garbage buff.

    Fun fact, I've learned to time my Rein charge into the cocoon so it catches a full-freeze-duration Mei frame perfect. It feels so good.

    Her cocoon should not be invulnerable. If she gets trapped behind the enemy team it should be a punish without giving the opposing team an extra 5 seconds to heal, regroup, or whatever.

    See, you've got this backwards. She's not trapped behind you, you're trapped in front of her.

    So that's how those prisoners felt.

  • The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    Cantido wrote: »
    Jesus christ I really wish they'd just delete Mei. Or remove her from comp.

    Instant Unfun Button for Overwatch, especially now that her freeze is stupidly OP and her ult is p much unavoidable by 90% of the characters.

    I'll stop picking her when a majority of the cast loses their bunny-hop button.

    Wouldn't that make it harder for snipers?

    If you're facing a good sniper bunnyhopping is actually bad because you put yourself on a predictable trajectory.

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  • jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    edited April 2018
    Cantido wrote: »
    Jesus christ I really wish they'd just delete Mei. Or remove her from comp.

    Instant Unfun Button for Overwatch, especially now that her freeze is stupidly OP and her ult is p much unavoidable by 90% of the characters.

    I'll stop picking her when a majority of the cast loses their bunny-hop button.

    Wouldn't that make it harder for snipers?

    If you're facing a good sniper bunnyhopping is actually bad because you put yourself on a predictable trajectory.

    Yeah that's what I meant. Removing the bunny hop and having people simply juke would make things more difficult.

    It helps heroes like Junkrat if you bunny hop because catching someone mid air with a mine sends em flying.

    It also makes a delightful rag doll effect if they get smacked mid air with Reins hammer.

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  • The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    edited April 2018
    Cantido wrote: »
    Jesus christ I really wish they'd just delete Mei. Or remove her from comp.

    Instant Unfun Button for Overwatch, especially now that her freeze is stupidly OP and her ult is p much unavoidable by 90% of the characters.

    I'll stop picking her when a majority of the cast loses their bunny-hop button.

    Wouldn't that make it harder for snipers?

    If you're facing a good sniper bunnyhopping is actually bad because you put yourself on a predictable trajectory.

    Yeah that's what I meant. Removing the bunny hop and having people simply juke would make things more difficult.

    It helps heroes like Junkrat if you bunny hop because catching someone mid air with a mine sends em flying.

    It also makes a delightful rag doll effect if they get smacked mid air with Reins hammer.

    Ah, you're right, I parsed that wrong.

    [Edit: Below is a separate thought]

    I don't think bunnyhopping is an issue in general with most heroes, but I do get extremely annoyed by Soldiers and Syms that do it.

    And baby D.Va, but it fits her lore so that's okay.

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  • CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    This doesn't really count as a good play because it was in a quick play disaster (our team had no healer) but I've never been able to get something like this before
    https://youtu.be/3r--krwMWp8

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  • jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    I dont think I've ever seen a Widow get her position compromised and not hop around like a rabbit.

  • soylenthsoylenth Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    Mei is just one of several frustrating characters for me in casual play. But i don't think any of them break the game, they just reqyire foxus fire or switch to counter, neither of which really happens too often solo queueing

  • CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    soylenth wrote: »
    Mei is just one of several frustrating characters for me in casual play. But i don't think any of them break the game, they just reqyire foxus fire or switch to counter, neither of which really happens too often solo queueing
    I cry every time red team does some stupid Bastion shit in quick play because I know none of my dps players will switch or do anything at all to stop him from left clicking the whole team

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  • The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    I dont think I've ever seen a Widow get her position compromised and not hop around like a rabbit.

    Well yeah but she's not going to kill you first in that situation, whereas the other characters very much can.

    Unless you're this Tracer:
    https://youtu.be/SUKSjEvNY4Y

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  • IblisIblis Registered User regular
    Had an amusing Retribution run. Only on Hard, but Reinhardt, Brigitte, Zarya, and Moira was pretty much a goddamn brickhouse. We barely took any real damage at any point! Final Heavy Assault was just us cornering him in that one little room near the restaurant and pounding on him while Rein kept circling around to stop his shots with his barrier. Nice change of pace from most of my runs where I end up as support trying to keep a gaggle of squishy DPS alive.

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  • CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
  • soylenthsoylenth Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    Symmetra versus heavy in pve is fun, i plant several turrets around like I'm trying to tether king kong. Shw could be a fun puzzle game, tower defense mode character.

  • jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    Coinage wrote: »
    soylenth wrote: »
    Mei is just one of several frustrating characters for me in casual play. But i don't think any of them break the game, they just reqyire foxus fire or switch to counter, neither of which really happens too often solo queueing
    I cry every time red team does some stupid Bastion shit in quick play because I know none of my dps players will switch or do anything at all to stop him from left clicking the whole team

    Sometimes their switch is awful.

    "Oh man that Bastion is ripping us up we need a-oh... a Torb... of course..."

  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    Coinage wrote: »
    soylenth wrote: »
    Mei is just one of several frustrating characters for me in casual play. But i don't think any of them break the game, they just reqyire foxus fire or switch to counter, neither of which really happens too often solo queueing
    I cry every time red team does some stupid Bastion shit in quick play because I know none of my dps players will switch or do anything at all to stop him from left clicking the whole team

    Sometimes their switch is awful.

    "Oh man that Bastion is ripping us up we need a-oh... a Torb... of course..."

    What is the cancer counter again?

    I'm going to write it on an index card this time, I promise.

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  • soylenthsoylenth Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    I like mei's new outfit, but it feels like a waste of pwrfectly good tea...

  • jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    edited April 2018
    Cantido wrote: »
    Coinage wrote: »
    soylenth wrote: »
    Mei is just one of several frustrating characters for me in casual play. But i don't think any of them break the game, they just reqyire foxus fire or switch to counter, neither of which really happens too often solo queueing
    I cry every time red team does some stupid Bastion shit in quick play because I know none of my dps players will switch or do anything at all to stop him from left clicking the whole team

    Sometimes their switch is awful.

    "Oh man that Bastion is ripping us up we need a-oh... a Torb... of course..."

    What is the cancer counter again?

    I'm going to write it on an index card this time, I promise.

    It was a bad situational pick.

    Actually kind of a bad pick period if you're trying to down a double shielded Bastion.

    But I guess with only Tracer, Sombra, Junkrat, Pharah, Mei, Genji, and Reaper as better choices they were kinda limited.

    jungleroomx on
  • ErlkönigErlkönig Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    So far, I've only done Hard Retribution, and with all-heroes, but the only heroes who seem to be worse than useless (i.e. actively detrimental to wave clearing or assassin/sniper clearing) are Pharah and Junkrat. As was mentioned a page ago, they knock targets away which makes keeping damage on target from the rest of the team inconsistent. Several times, I've had an assassin stunned in front of my Orisa get knocked to safety by a Junkrat (instead of crumpling after eating minigun rounds to the face).

    And Widowmaker is a boss deleter, plain and simple. The critical shot hitboxes on the heavies are absolutely huge, so every single shot should be a crit hit. She's also perfectly situated as a counter-sniper...so, the only one that gives her a pause are the assassins. As a Widow, I've consistently been top specialist damage and elimination...on a team with a Bastion as the other damage dealer. She's actually pretty nasty in this event.

    However, with all that said, I was chatting with a buddy of mine over which heroes would work and which wouldn't (conceptually), and we figured Torb, Widow, Symmetra, and a whole host of others would be absolutely terrible...but after we tried them out, found out they worked surprisingly well. So maybe I just need to try out Pharah and Junkrat and see how they play in the event. Y'know, instead of relying on watching possible windowlickers try to play them in the mode.

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  • PailryderPailryder Registered User regular
    i want to call the last difficulty extreme but i don't think that's right, but in my last run we had pharah, symmetra, moira (me) and a widow...it was the closest i've come to just quitting up front.

  • ErlkönigErlkönig Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Pailryder wrote: »
    i want to call the last difficulty extreme but i don't think that's right, but in my last run we had pharah, symmetra, moira (me) and a widow...it was the closest i've come to just quitting up front.

    This is why I lock in last. If I see that comp, I'll just eat the AFK timeout.

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  • soylenthsoylenth Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited April 2018
    I only do Symmetra and the like on normal. Although I found Pharah to be fairly useful on hard. Not sure I'm quite enough of a masochist for higher difficulties.

    I do theoretically actually have to tank/heal as a team in pve content though.

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  • NobodyNobody Registered User regular
    I've resigned myself to not getting the expert version of Uprising or Retribution completed in solo queue. Far too many people think they can Rambo through the Bastions (Uprising) or Enforcer packs (Retribution) and getting slaughtered out of LOS of the healer. Then it snowballs up because we really needed their DPS to get things done.

  • ChanceChance Registered User regular
    I dont think I've ever seen a Widow get her position compromised and not hop around like a rabbit.

    Well yeah but she's not going to kill you first in that situation, whereas the other characters very much can.

    Unless you're this Tracer:
    https://youtu.be/SUKSjEvNY4Y

    The shame of it.

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  • soylenthsoylenth Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    I dont think I've ever seen a Widow get her position compromised and not hop around like a rabbit.

    I'm not a hopper, on widow or otherwise (unless I am extremely bored). I won a widow duel tonight with a hopper and just cleaned her up because she was too close for one thing, and her hopping just made her trajectory very predictable.

    Although I did get blasted by a hopping hanzo last night who leapt off the tall platform on rhs of blizzard world choke and one-shotted me TWICE as we were trying to break through. I was annoyed but impressed.

  • soylenthsoylenth Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    Between the new Reaper and Hanzo skins (which I adore) and the old Mustache daredevil 76 skin, I think I finally have my very gay OW/Charlie's Angel fan fic lined up.

  • BRIAN BLESSEDBRIAN BLESSED Maybe you aren't SPEAKING LOUDLY ENOUGHHH Registered User regular
    edited April 2018
    I actually imagine Pharah/Junkrat to be decent work together tbh, though

    Don't use concussion mines on Assassins, I use the trap and it locks her into place for easy feed

    Concussion mines are just used to finish off enemies and knock enemies out of bounds

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  • soylenthsoylenth Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    Best moment tonight that highlights chose to ignore: I stop a steamroll in MH by spawning as bastion. Their winston jumps on me in turret mode (first mistake), and I drill him to near zero so he enrages, and I just sit there healing myself through it while he jumps and wails on me ineffectually (2nd mistake) and as soon as it drops zip him down again (3rd mistake) and his friend mccree who totally biffs a flashbang trying to help his friend out (4th mistake). Zip zip dead. Very satisfying. They never even tried to focus fire me after that which was an odd choice, considering that I just sat on the high ground murdering their healers.

  • ErlkönigErlkönig Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    I actually imagine Pharah/Junkrat to be decent work together tbh, though

    Don't use concussion mines on Assassins, I use the trap and it locks her into place for easy feed

    Concussion mines are just used to finish off enemies and knock enemies out of bounds

    Please refer back to the end of my post and my mentioning of windowlickers. :P

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  • DonnictonDonnicton Registered User regular
    There's a new "voice" line for Bastion that's just a series of high pitched, ear-grating screechbeeps and it's now my new spam line.

  • The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    Now that I think of it, I might be bunnyhopping all the time completely subconsciously. I know I spam the spacebar when walking back from spawn as muscle memory from doing that in things like WoW and Skyrim, but I'm not sure if I do that mid-fight.

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  • miscellaneousinsanitymiscellaneousinsanity grass grows, birds fly, sun shines, and brother, i hurt peopleRegistered User regular
    crouch spamming is more useful for certain characters' hitboxes during a fight, zen for instance ducks down considerably

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  • KoopahTroopahKoopahTroopah The koopas, the troopas. Philadelphia, PARegistered User regular
    Crouch spamming is a thing that happens more than bunny hops for me, yes. Especially in Widow vs Widow matchups.

  • Beyond NormalBeyond Normal Lord Phender Registered User regular
    I don't play Doomfish much and I want to "git gud" with him so I'm doing loads of QP matches. I sometimes get the attitude of "omg you suck doomfish switch off"

    Bruh, I need to practice Doomfish to git gud. I'm slowly figuring out the finesse of this character.

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  • AuralynxAuralynx Darkness is a perspective Watching the ego workRegistered User regular
    I don't play Doomfish much and I want to "git gud" with him so I'm doing loads of QP matches. I sometimes get the attitude of "omg you suck doomfish switch off"

    Bruh, I need to practice Doomfish to git gud. I'm slowly figuring out the finesse of this character.

    Doomfist is best practiced in Deathmatch IME.

  • Beyond NormalBeyond Normal Lord Phender Registered User regular
    Auralynx wrote: »
    I don't play Doomfish much and I want to "git gud" with him so I'm doing loads of QP matches. I sometimes get the attitude of "omg you suck doomfish switch off"

    Bruh, I need to practice Doomfish to git gud. I'm slowly figuring out the finesse of this character.

    Doomfist is best practiced in Deathmatch IME.

    As much as I don't like DM, I might give it a shot.

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    Chipsa has some videos with Doomfist advice too, recommend watching him

  • Beyond NormalBeyond Normal Lord Phender Registered User regular
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  • AuralynxAuralynx Darkness is a perspective Watching the ego workRegistered User regular
    Auralynx wrote: »
    I don't play Doomfish much and I want to "git gud" with him so I'm doing loads of QP matches. I sometimes get the attitude of "omg you suck doomfish switch off"

    Bruh, I need to practice Doomfish to git gud. I'm slowly figuring out the finesse of this character.

    Doomfist is best practiced in Deathmatch IME.

    As much as I don't like DM, I might give it a shot.

    Yeah, I don't either but the way it's a bunch of into-fight, out-of-fight cycles makes it a lot easier to get in a groove on him than trying to flail your way to that pattern in a regular game.

  • The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    Auralynx wrote: »
    I don't play Doomfish much and I want to "git gud" with him so I'm doing loads of QP matches. I sometimes get the attitude of "omg you suck doomfish switch off"

    Bruh, I need to practice Doomfish to git gud. I'm slowly figuring out the finesse of this character.

    Doomfist is best practiced in Deathmatch IME.

    I'm winning DMs with Doomfist pretty often now, I should try breaking him out in QP a bit.

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  • Beyond NormalBeyond Normal Lord Phender Registered User regular
    Well, I wasn't recording and it won't show up in my highlights, but I just blew a potential 4 kill Meteor Strike by striking myself off the map on Lijiang Tower. Loloops!

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  • MusicoolMusicool Registered User regular
    Probably the fastest way to learn Doomfist mechanics:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfZoDts2dJ8

    AND

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xt8qMzI-ho

    Burtletoy wrote: »
    I disagree completely.

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