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IG investigation into FBI concludes that Comey sucks, but not biasedly

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  • RichyRichy Registered User regular
    Comey is a partisan hack. He's very good at looking neutral and impartial at a glance, but as soon as you scratch below the plain suit and tie you immediately see the red MAGA cap and the "lock her up" t-shirt. Everything he's done in 2016 and everything he said to justify it is coherent and unsurprising once you realize that simple fact.

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  • tbloxhamtbloxham Registered User regular
    What Comey SHOULD have done is fired the New York Field office, or at least those agents he was concerned about leaking secret information.

    If he had done that, then sure, it might have come out that it was done because the agents there had a massive bias against Clinton and were a national security risk due to that. In fact, thats the sort of thing you might have a press conference about in order to be as clear as possible as to why it was done. Yes, that might have been problematic for either campaign depending on the exact spin the media put on it, but in that case Comey could have made a real and clear defense after the election as to why he did what he did.

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  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    Spaffy wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    It would destroy the reputation of the FBI to follow normal procedure on something that did not turn out to contain any new relevant info but had a tiny chance that it would?

    Remember that there is a part of the sentence that he's not saying - "among the right wing". And for Comey, those were the only people whose opinion mattered.

    I may be reading into something that wasn't there but he seemed to be heavily suggesting that the right wing will spin anything and the left will not, which is why the right wing's reaction mattered more - the left would (mostly) accept the truth. He certainly seemed to have more respect for left media than right.

    Well, yes, that's what we all suspected. He staged a soft-coup against Clinton because he was more concerned with how the Right within the FBI and without (same shit because his FBI leaks like a sieve) then anything else.

  • SpaffySpaffy Fuck the Zero Registered User regular
    Richy wrote: »
    Comey is a partisan hack. He's very good at looking neutral and impartial at a glance, but as soon as you scratch below the plain suit and tie you immediately see the red MAGA cap and the "lock her up" t-shirt. Everything he's done in 2016 and everything he said to justify it is coherent and unsurprising once you realize that simple fact.

    Pretty much the only thing I would say with certainty from this evening is that he hates DJT

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Spaffy wrote: »
    Richy wrote: »
    Comey is a partisan hack. He's very good at looking neutral and impartial at a glance, but as soon as you scratch below the plain suit and tie you immediately see the red MAGA cap and the "lock her up" t-shirt. Everything he's done in 2016 and everything he said to justify it is coherent and unsurprising once you realize that simple fact.

    Pretty much the only thing I would say with certainty from this evening is that he hates DJT

    Hates him now sure, but didn't do shit against him when it mattered. Had to have been fired to give a shit.

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  • ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2018
    Preacher wrote: »
    Spaffy wrote: »
    Richy wrote: »
    Comey is a partisan hack. He's very good at looking neutral and impartial at a glance, but as soon as you scratch below the plain suit and tie you immediately see the red MAGA cap and the "lock her up" t-shirt. Everything he's done in 2016 and everything he said to justify it is coherent and unsurprising once you realize that simple fact.

    Pretty much the only thing I would say with certainty from this evening is that he hates DJT

    Hates him now sure, but didn't do shit against him when it mattered. Had to have been fired to give a shit.

    As we're seeing with congress, losing one's job or other very tangible personal harms are among the few ways to get even a potential re-spine-ectomy or whatever the hell it should be called look I'm not a medical guy here.

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  • IlpalaIlpala Just this guy, y'know TexasRegistered User regular
    Spaffy wrote: »
    Spaffy wrote: »
    Spaffy wrote: »
    Hoy shit I have tickets to see James Comey speak in London this Thursday

    So this is tonight and is apparently still happening. If it goes to Q+A, anyone got any good questions? Questions that won’t get me thrown out, that is.

    Why were agents with a “deep and visceral hatred of Secretary Clinton” (Comey's quote) allowed to work on the e-mail investigation?

    Why did you ignore your bosses and FBI guidelines to make public information out of fear those same agents leaking to the press or Republican members of Congress?

    Why were the two probes handled so differently?

    Why was an investigation into information security and spillage of classified information given a higher priority than an investigation into the attack on the sovereignty of the United States?

    What did the FBI do under your watch to attempt to recruit more female agents and agents of color?

    Question about the two probes was asked:

    Basically, one was specifically HRC being investigated directly and at the time it was only people on the periphery of the Trump campaign, not Trump himself. There was no doubt at all at the FBI that the two investigations were of significantly different levels of importance (with the information they had at the time).

    Bullshit! "One candidate may have inadvertently sent classified information over unsecured email" and "One candidate's campaign staff keep seeming to court Russians in an attempt to influence our election" STILL have significantly different levels of importance and NOT in the fucking direction you went!

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  • HefflingHeffling No Pic EverRegistered User regular
    I have to wonder how much Comey is getting paid for the event you're attending in London. Because the idea that he's profiting from handing Trump the election makes me so angry.

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Didn't the recent IG report announce they knew they didn't have shit on her a year before they fucking did anything? And yet yeah she was the real problem they had to investigate.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Heffling wrote: »
    I have to wonder how much Comey is getting paid for the event you're attending in London. Because the idea that he's profiting from handing Trump the election makes me so angry.

    He got a multimillion dollar advance on his damn book, so that's already happened.

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  • SpaffySpaffy Fuck the Zero Registered User regular
    The main nugget of intrigue tonight was that he dangled that the US media still hasn’t figured out the nature of classified information about Loretta Lynch that somewhat informed his decision-making. I'm hoping someone more knowledgeable than me will write up some theories overnight.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Spaffy wrote: »
    The main nugget of intrigue tonight was that he dangled that the US media still hasn’t figured out the nature of classified information about Loretta Lynch that somewhat informed his decision-making. I'm hoping someone more knowledgeable than me will write up some theories overnight.

    That reads to me like bullshit to throw Lynch under the bus. I've never heard anything about her outside of "OH MY GOD SHE TALKED TO BILL ON THE TARMAC"

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  • SpaffySpaffy Fuck the Zero Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    Spaffy wrote: »
    The main nugget of intrigue tonight was that he dangled that the US media still hasn’t figured out the nature of classified information about Loretta Lynch that somewhat informed his decision-making. I'm hoping someone more knowledgeable than me will write up some theories overnight.

    That reads to me like bullshit to throw Lynch under the bus. I've never heard anything about her outside of "OH MY GOD SHE TALKED TO BILL ON THE TARMAC"

    Well, I think regardless of how you feel about Comey and Trump, that shit was dodgy as fuck and the second dumbest thing Bill Clinton ever did.

    But yes, it's possible that Comey is trying to position a theory that he was insubordinate because he felt LL was compromised in some way. The alternative is that she *was* compromised in some way. Maybe a rebuttal from someone "in the know" will come out in the next few days now that the accusation has been dangled, as I don't think anyone would simply let the accusation be left out there unchallenged.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Or the third most likely alternative Comey is damaging a democrat again because there is literally no one who can contradict him and he's a petty right wing asshole. Like if Lynch was compromised in any fucking way it would have come out.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    Or the third most likely alternative Comey is damaging a democrat again because there is literally no one who can contradict him and he's a petty right wing asshole. Like if Lynch was compromised in any fucking way it would have come out.

    Also a sexist.

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Central OhioRegistered User regular
    edited June 2018
    You’re telling me that Nunes, Giuliani, the NY FBI assholes, not to mention Jeff Sessions may have dirt on Loretta Lynch and nobody has said anything?

    Get the fuck outta here Jim

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  • JaysonFourJaysonFour Classy Monster Kitteh Registered User regular
    Comey's biggest con was convincing everyone that he's something other than a right-wing partisan hack. "But what about Lynch?" "But what about *insert buzzword right-wing talking point here*?"

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  • GoumindongGoumindong Registered User regular
    PantsB wrote: »
    Clinton didn't disclose classified information either but if Comey wants to open his private email up I'll find some stuff to retroactively classify

    Too late. His memo's that he shared with his buddy were already retroactively classified.

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    That Comey had some of his stuff retroactively classified is a good indication that determining what should be classified as confidential is practically impossible.

  • zepherinzepherin Russian warship, go fuck yourself Registered User regular
    edited June 2018
    Couscous wrote: »
    That Comey had some of his stuff retroactively classified is a good indication that determining what should be classified as confidential is practically impossible.
    It's not if you follow the process...there are many people who don't follow the process, but it is not a difficult or confusing process. It just takes a few days (a week at most).

    But when the head of an agency does that, they are generally protecting a subordinate from a fuck up.

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  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    It would destroy the reputation of the FBI to follow normal procedure on something that did not turn out to contain any new relevant info but had a tiny chance that it would?

    Remember that there is a part of the sentence that he's not saying - "among the right wing". And for Comey, those were the only people whose opinion mattered.

    Pretty sure "left wing" media covered the email scandal more than any other issue in the 2016 campaign combined. I blame Comey more than any other one person or single event for the results of the 2016 election but he certainly wasn't alone in prioritizing Clinton's emails. His both-sides-ism is remarkably similar to that of mainstream public media if you ask me.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited June 2018
    House Judiciary is subpoenaing Strzok, even though he volunteered to testify last week.

    EDIT: I think so they can make him testify behind close doors and create a false narrative.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Butters wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    It would destroy the reputation of the FBI to follow normal procedure on something that did not turn out to contain any new relevant info but had a tiny chance that it would?

    Remember that there is a part of the sentence that he's not saying - "among the right wing". And for Comey, those were the only people whose opinion mattered.

    Pretty sure "left wing" media covered the email scandal more than any other issue in the 2016 campaign combined. I blame Comey more than any other one person or single event for the results of the 2016 election but he certainly wasn't alone in prioritizing Clinton's emails. His both-sides-ism is remarkably similar to that of mainstream public media if you ask me.

    They're both symptoms of the same problem - the need to "prove" to the right wing that they aren't "biased", because the right wing defines "bias" as "insufficiently deferential to them".

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  • SurfpossumSurfpossum A nonentity trying to preserve the anonymity he so richly deserves.Registered User regular
    NPR's 1A panel was very hesitant to call bullshit on Giuliani's ranting that this is what will get the Mueller investigation shut down, so

    I'm feeling pretty glum about our chances as a country again, how about y'all.

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Surfpossum wrote: »
    NPR's 1A panel was very hesitant to call bullshit on Giuliani's ranting that this is what will get the Mueller investigation shut down, so

    I'm feeling pretty glum about our chances as a country again, how about y'all.

    What that someone who had a clear anti clinton bias and made one anti trump text is the real mastermind behind Trump committing several real felonies? Yeah sure this will shut it down.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited November 2018
    And in "the 2018 writers' room are hacks, every single one of them" news, Comey used private email for sensitive FBI business:
    In one email on Oct. 7, 2015, Comey seems to recognize the hypocrisy of the FBI investigating Hillary Clinton’s email practices while he’s exchanging FBI info on his own private account because his government account was down.

    Two days after complaining that his “mobile is not sending emails,” Comey asked an aide that the testimony he was to deliver to the Senate be sent on his private account — calling it an “embarrassing” situation.

    “He [aide] will need to send to personal email I suppose,” Comey wrote. “Embarrassing for us.”

    Just...fuck. This is literally the definition of hypocrisy.

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  • GoumindongGoumindong Registered User regular
    Fucking wow

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  • GoumindongGoumindong Registered User regular
    Fucking wow

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  • [Expletive deleted][Expletive deleted] The mediocre doctor NorwayRegistered User regular
    Ok, that's… I… Words fail me.

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  • ahavaahava Call me Ahava ~~She/Her~~ Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    oh you have got to be fucking kidding me.

    oh fuck you, Comey.

  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Always projection.

    The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
  • LabelLabel Registered User regular
    How trustworthy is the NY Post, here? Wikipedia is saying it's owned by Rupert Murdoch's 'News Corp.'

  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Label wrote: »
    How trustworthy is the NY Post, here? Wikipedia is saying it's owned by Rupert Murdoch's 'News Corp.'

    If you don't trust them, and that's an excellent reason why, there's Splinter News report.

    https://splinternews.com/that-sound-you-heard-was-hillary-clinton-punching-a-hol-1826837964
    The Department of Justice’s Office of Inspector General dropped its much-anticipated report on former FBI Director James Comey’s conduct during his investigation into Hillary Clinton’s private email server on Thursday. It is, for the most part, 500 pages of “meh” punctuated by a few moments of “oh, hmmm?” (In short: Comey kinda fucked up, and ended up fatally wounding the Clinton campaign. Bummer.)

    But nestled deep in the report (page 424 to be exact) is this juicy nugget (emphasis mine):

    We identified several instances in which Comey and [FBI investigator Peter] Strzok used personal email accounts for official government business. When questioned, [former FBI attorney Lisa] Page also told us she used personal email for work-related matters at times.

    There are other news sources on Google, so this story has legs from multiple angles.

    Comey is a fucking embarrassment. That he's a star in the FBI is a massive problem for the institutes already flawed internal culture.

  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    You shouldn't trust Splinter for literally the opposite reason.

    The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
  • DedwrekkaDedwrekka Metal Hell adjacentRegistered User regular
    So, let's unpack this.

    We've known about this for a while. Aside from the fact that it was reported in June. We've had multiple government officials explain that this is a common occurrence and why it's not a security issue. We had Colin Powell come out and say he did the same thing. We had people explaining that this was an unimportant bit of political fenangling in 2016.

    So let's go back

    In 2016 it was reported through multiple outlets that the FBI had been pushed into the investigation because of a group in the FBI New York Field Office that was basing their evidence on Breitbart writer Peter Schweizer's book "Clinton Cash". This group had released misleading information to Jason Chaffetz in congress who immediately leaked it to the press, as well as providing "leaks" of their own. This was both part of an anti-Clinton and pro-Trump belief at the FBI.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/03/fbi-leaks-hillary-clinton-james-comey-donald-trump

    At the time it was acknowledged that Comey may have been 'forced' into his statements in order to try and wrestle the narrative from the far more partisan parts of the bureau.

    So back to this "breaking news".
    This isn't new information and it has been part of a long list of releases by conservative groups this year, particularly by groups like The Transparency Project which is also doing things like suing Hillary Clinton's lawyers over her emails, and filing FOIA requests into the Seth Rich murder (which is the focus of conspiracy theories about Clinton having him killed).

    Or groups like in the Post article above: The Cause of Action Institute. A conservative funded "watchdog" group that normally spends it's time fighting government regulation, but strangely turned it's interest to Comey.

    So, it's not new information, and while yes it's bad it's just as bad as it was either last year or two years ago when the information first came out. This has been part of a theme this year for conservative groups to 'suddenly' release FOIA information about Comey. I'm not saying "false flag", I'm not saying the information isn't real, and I'm not saying Comey is some kind of sacrosanct saint. However, what I am saying is that this is old information about Comey that has been regurgitated over the course of the year, regularly by conservative groups and on conservative media.

    It's not bad information, it's just that it's being reported like it's new and I think it's being used as propaganda to try and make the, under investigation, firing of Comey more palatable.

  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    The real problem was always that the media hated Clinton and would gin up literally anything into a massive scandal when they didn't care about it with basically any other human. Especially dudes.

    The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
  • CelestialBadgerCelestialBadger Registered User regular
    The real problem was always that the media hated Clinton and would gin up literally anything into a massive scandal when they didn't care about it with basically any other human. Especially dudes.

    They also *wanted* a scandal because reversals and last-minute revelations make good drama and good ratings.

  • milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    James Comey continues to convince me he is and always was a fucking hack.

    Doesn't mean Trump didn't fire him to obstruct justice.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited November 2018
    milski wrote: »
    James Comey continues to convince me he is and always was a fucking hack.

    Doesn't mean Trump didn't fire him to obstruct justice.

    The one consolation I have is that there is at least a little part of Comey that seems to realize he is to blame for President Trump.

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  • milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    milski wrote: »
    James Comey continues to convince me he is and always was a fucking hack.

    Doesn't mean Trump didn't fire him to obstruct justice.

    The one consolation I have is that there is at least a little part of Comey that seems to realize he is to blame for President Trump.

    I really don't find it comforting that Comey was merely motivated by being anti-left rather than pro-Trump.

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