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[Liberty or Death] Let's play all of the American Revolution! - twice! Starting on page 9.
admanbunionize your workplaceSeattle, WARegistered Userregular
Please rate your preferred factions in order of most to least preferred.
Tell me whether you'd rather play the full game scenario (A People Numerous and Armed) or the shorter one (British Return to New York). Note that while France doesn't start in the war in either of them, in the latter they're within a few turns of it while in the former it will be a while.
1.) I honestly think all four factions sound great so please take my preference here as only because I have to.
British
French
Patriots
Indians
2.) Do we have a rough idea of just how much more the full game will add to the length of the game overall comparatively?
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admanbunionize your workplaceSeattle, WARegistered Userregular
Assuming no one hits the auto-win conditions the full game is 50% longer. The shorter scenario uses a 44 card event deck (40 events + 4 winter's quarters) while the full scenario uses a 66 card deck.
2. Based on the bgg COIN beginner thread I saw a while back, they recommended short for newbies. As I newbie I then vote short.
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HedgethornAssociate Professor of Historical Hobby HorsesIn the Lions' DenRegistered Userregular
edited August 2018
I'd also vote for the shorter game. No real faction preference, but I'd be happy to take the French or the Indians if TheColonel and Oreo prefer the British and Patriots.
Edit: Maybe a *slight* preference for the French, if only because they seem different than the factions I've already seen in Fire in the Lake and Distant Plain.
This game is great. If it goes well I definitely recommend the longer scenario down the road! Having the French start entirely off the map is super interesting.
And yeah this game is a WHOOOOLE buncha rules upfront, best of luck to everyone!
Edit: Oh, looks like you are doing the medium scenario, not the super short one, so the French still start off map. Cool
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admanbunionize your workplaceSeattle, WARegistered Userregular
The short scenario looks like a really good way for experienced players to get a quick, tense game, but there's way too much stuff on the board to put it in front of beginners.
The loyal citizens of the colonies should take heart in knowing that their King, I, care about them a great deal. I think about them sometimes even once a day!
I'll take the unshaded event text, choosing Massachusetts and New York as the two colony choices.
Question: Massachusetts should be at Neutral correct? 2 colonies 2 levels towards passive support would bring it down to Neutral? Or am I reading that wrong?
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admanbunionize your workplaceSeattle, WARegistered Userregular
The Pats will perform a Command and a Special Ability:
Command: Rally spending 2 resources
Massachusetts for a total of 3 militia (2 pop + 1 fort)
Charles Town for a total of 2 militia (1 pop + 1 fort)
Special Action: Persuasion
Using Persuasion in Massachusetts, Charles Town, and North Carolina. Gain 3 resources, activate 1 militia and place 1 propaganda marker in each of those locations.
First time ever taking an action so trying to be detailed. Hope I didn't screw anything up.
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admanbunionize your workplaceSeattle, WARegistered Userregular
Just to be sure -- are you aware that when you Rally in a space with a Fort you can replace any number of Militia in that space with Continentals?
Am I reading the Patriots faction sheet wrong, or can Oreo only replace militia with continentals in one space?
Last line of Rally action reads: "If desired, replace any Militia in any 1 space containing a Fort with Continentals"
Am I reading the Patriots faction sheet wrong, or can Oreo only replace militia with continentals in one space?
Last line of Rally action reads: "If desired, replace any Militia in any 1 space containing a Fort with Continentals"
Let's go with Mass then.
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HedgethornAssociate Professor of Historical Hobby HorsesIn the Lions' DenRegistered Userregular
I think I'm going to Pass. +2 French resources and we move to the next card.
admanbunionize your workplaceSeattle, WARegistered Userregular
The Burning of Falmouth
The Burning of Falmouth was an attack by a Royal Navy fleet on
the town of Falmouth, Massachusetts (site of the modern city of
Portland, Maine.) George Washington described the Burning of
Falmouth as “An outrage exceeding in barbarity and cruelty every
hostile act among nations.”
(All text will be pulled from the rulebook, so don't blame me for innacuracies)
British Resources: 3
Patriot Resources: 3
French Resources: 7
Indian Resources: 2
Total Support: 5
Total Opposition: 1
Cumulative British Casualties (CBC): 1
Cumulative Rebellion Casualties (CRC): 3
French Prep: 9
Spend 1 Resource - Place 2 British Regulars in New York plus 2 bonus Tories (total in New York 5 Regulars, 5 Tories)
Spend 1 Resource - Place 5 British Regulars in South Carolina plus 2 bonus Tories (total in South Carolina 5 Regulars, 4 Tories)
Spend 1 Resource - Reward Loyalty in New York, bringing it up to Active Support.
I believe net British Resources will be 2 (3 + 2 - 3) by end of turn.
HedgethornAssociate Professor of Historical Hobby HorsesIn the Lions' DenRegistered Userregular
Am I correct in assuming that if I take the event, the Patriots get resources but no rally takes place (since France doesn't have a rally action)?
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admanbunionize your workplaceSeattle, WARegistered Userregular
That's a good question. My feeling is that since the Patriots are the only faction that can Rally and events don't care what faction activates them, if the event says they Rally, they Rally.
HedgethornAssociate Professor of Historical Hobby HorsesIn the Lions' DenRegistered Userregular
Play the event. @A Half Eaten Oreo gets to rally in two spaces for free and then gains 3 resources.
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admanbunionize your workplaceSeattle, WARegistered Userregular
I found the full clarification: the Patriots do indeed Rally, but the French get to decide where. That said it's up to @Hedgethorn whether he wants to turn that power over to the Patriots or choose for them.
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I have two questions for you:
British
French
Patriots
Indians
2.) Do we have a rough idea of just how much more the full game will add to the length of the game overall comparatively?
Patriots
Indian
British
French
2. Based on the bgg COIN beginner thread I saw a while back, they recommended short for newbies. As I newbie I then vote short.
Edit: Maybe a *slight* preference for the French, if only because they seem different than the factions I've already seen in Fire in the Lake and Distant Plain.
TheColonel as the British
A Half Eaten Orea as the Patriots
Hedgethorn as the French
Myself as the Indians
British Resources: 5
Patriot Resources: 2
French Resources: 5
Indian Resources: 0
Total Support: 3
Total Opposition: 5
Cumulative British Casualties (CBC): 1
Cumulative Rebellion Casualties (CRC): 3
French Prep: 9
First player is the British. @TheColonel
I expect the first few turns to go slowly as people try and figure out WTF they're doing in this game.
And yeah this game is a WHOOOOLE buncha rules upfront, best of luck to everyone!
Edit: Oh, looks like you are doing the medium scenario, not the super short one, so the French still start off map. Cool
I'll take the unshaded event text, choosing Massachusetts and New York as the two colony choices.
@admanb
@TheColonel to decide whether to give me 2+ resources.
British Resources: 3
Patriot Resources: 2
French Resources: 5
Indian Resources: 2
Total Support: 5
Total Opposition: 1
Cumulative British Casualties (CBC): 1
Cumulative Rebellion Casualties (CRC): 3
French Prep: 9
Next player is the Patriots. @A Half Eaten Oreo
Command: Rally spending 2 resources
Special Action: Persuasion
Using Persuasion in Massachusetts, Charles Town, and North Carolina. Gain 3 resources, activate 1 militia and place 1 propaganda marker in each of those locations.
First time ever taking an action so trying to be detailed. Hope I didn't screw anything up.
Aside from big plays I usually won't post an update in between two commands on the same card, but if you need that to plan your turn just ask.
Am I reading the Patriots faction sheet wrong, or can Oreo only replace militia with continentals in one space?
Last line of Rally action reads: "If desired, replace any Militia in any 1 space containing a Fort with Continentals"
Let's go with Mass then.
@admanb for the next card, then it'll be @TheColonel as first eligible.
The Burning of Falmouth was an attack by a Royal Navy fleet on
the town of Falmouth, Massachusetts (site of the modern city of
Portland, Maine.) George Washington described the Burning of
Falmouth as “An outrage exceeding in barbarity and cruelty every
hostile act among nations.”
(All text will be pulled from the rulebook, so don't blame me for innacuracies)
British Resources: 3
Patriot Resources: 3
French Resources: 7
Indian Resources: 2
Total Support: 5
Total Opposition: 1
Cumulative British Casualties (CBC): 1
Cumulative Rebellion Casualties (CRC): 3
French Prep: 9
@TheColonel to play.
I'd like to Naval Pressure first and then Muster.
@admanb Do you want to handle dice rolling or should we do so?
Geth, roll 1d3 for NavalPressure
Spend 1 Resource - Place 2 British Regulars in New York plus 2 bonus Tories (total in New York 5 Regulars, 5 Tories)
Spend 1 Resource - Place 5 British Regulars in South Carolina plus 2 bonus Tories (total in South Carolina 5 Regulars, 4 Tories)
Spend 1 Resource - Reward Loyalty in New York, bringing it up to Active Support.
I believe net British Resources will be 2 (3 + 2 - 3) by end of turn.
@Hedgethorn for next eligible.