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[Discworld] Who Watches The Watchmen In The Watch?

BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Fighting The Rising OddsRegistered User, Moderator mod
edited November 2018 in Debate and/or Discourse
So Terry Pratchett was this guy who wrote some books. They were quite popular. Now they're making some of them into a TV show. They've done it before, with varying levels of success. Results have ranged from hmmm not bad to oh Christ that's awful. Most of the stories he wrote take place here.

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The Watch has had a long gestation, but is now being made by BBC America, an entity solely designed to bring socialism to the benighted shores of the New World. It will star these guys.

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GNU Terry Pratchett.

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  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    Reminder that Christopher Lee as Death was already a thing in 90s animated adaptations of Soul Music and Wyrd Sisters

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  • SchadenfreudeSchadenfreude Mean Mister Mustard Registered User regular
    klemming wrote:
    Pretty much any human would be too pretty to be Nobby. They need someone who you can look at for some time, then conclude that in all probability they are most likely to be human, at least compared to any other known species.

    Expanding the fantasy casting, would there be anyone better for Ridcully than Brian Blessed? Maybe Nick Offerman if you want someone younger.
    (and Daniel Radcliffe for Ponder Stibbons would work quite well)

    And Robert Picardo as Drumknott.

    Nobby would need to be a Spitting Image puppet, whilst all the other characters were real actors.

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  • NyysjanNyysjan FinlandRegistered User regular
    edited November 2018
    Event the official papers Nobby carries only state the he is probably human.
    Any actor or puppet needs to be able to have a reasonable person look at Nobby and ask, is that a human?

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  • WearingglassesWearingglasses Of the friendly neighborhood variety Registered User regular
    I wonder if Hugh Laurie can still do Vimes.

    Is Daniel Radcliffe to old for Ponder Stibbons?

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  • SchadenfreudeSchadenfreude Mean Mister Mustard Registered User regular
    Brian Blessed for Mustrum Ridcully. Obviously.

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  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    Miriam Margolyes as Nanny Ogg

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  • klemmingklemming Registered User regular
    Maggie Smith as Granny Weatherwax is so obvious it doesn't need to be said, but I just said it anyway.
    And CCH Pounder as Mrs Gogol.

    Nobody remembers the singer. The song remains.
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  • DiplominatorDiplominator Hardcore Porg Registered User regular
    I want Alan Cumming as Vetinari, although wikipedia says he already has a job.

  • klemmingklemming Registered User regular
    I want Alan Cumming as Vetinari, although wikipedia says he already has a job.
    Best way to get a job done is to give it to someone who is already busy.

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  • klemmingklemming Registered User regular
    edited November 2018
    Oh! How about Sean Bean as Reg Shoe?
    He's already dead, can't kill him again.

    I'd actually love this, as they could go through all his most famous deaths, and then Reg can just get up afterwards and complain about all these arrows in his armour. Cut his head off? Damn it, does anyone have a needle and thread?

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  • RingoRingo Out of things to say Heartbreak HillRegistered User regular
    Just a note, if you haven't read Nation do yourself a favor and run, don't walk, to grab it

    It's not my favorite Pratchett novel, but I think it's far and away his best work

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    I know my last visit to my grandpa on his deathbed was to find out how the whole Nazi werewolf thing turned out.
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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    It’s a pity we lost Alan rickman

    He was always Ventinari in my head

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  • pezgenpezgen Registered User regular
    Ringo wrote: »
    Just a note, if you haven't read Nation do yourself a favor and run, don't walk, to grab it

    It's not my favorite Pratchett novel, but I think it's far and away his best work

    Yeah, if someone said they would only ever read one Pratchett book, I would give them Nation. It is a brilliant piece of fiction.

    But if they said they'd read all of Pratchett's work, I'd still suggest they start with it.

    Is good.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Reminder that Christopher Lee as Death was already a thing in 90s animated adaptations of Soul Music and Wyrd Sisters

    He also voiced Death in the games and the recent BBC adaptions of Hogfather.

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  • BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Fighting The Rising Odds Registered User, Moderator mod
    Reminder that Christopher Lee as Death was already a thing in 90s animated adaptations of Soul Music and Wyrd Sisters

    He also voiced Death in the games and the recent BBC adaptions of Hogfather.

    Sky, not BBC. And the voice of Death in Hogfather was Ian Richardson. Lee did it for the (terrible) Colour of Magic mini-series, also by Sky.

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  • Golden YakGolden Yak Burnished Bovine The PIT, level 26Registered User regular
    "Who watches the Watch? I do."
    "But who watches you, sir?"
    "I do that, too. All the time. Believe me."

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  • Redcoat-13Redcoat-13 Registered User regular
    Gary Oldman I reckon would make a pretty good Vimes

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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    Gary oldman for Nobby

    he's played super short characters before :snap:

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  • DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    edited November 2018
    Jon Hamm as Carrot, and Keanu Reeves as Lu-Tze

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Bogart wrote: »
    Reminder that Christopher Lee as Death was already a thing in 90s animated adaptations of Soul Music and Wyrd Sisters

    He also voiced Death in the games and the recent BBC adaptions of Hogfather.

    Sky, not BBC. And the voice of Death in Hogfather was Ian Richardson. Lee did it for the (terrible) Colour of Magic mini-series, also by Sky.

    Oh right. Whoops!

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  • HefflingHeffling No Pic EverRegistered User regular
    Bogart wrote: »
    Reminder that Christopher Lee as Death was already a thing in 90s animated adaptations of Soul Music and Wyrd Sisters

    He also voiced Death in the games and the recent BBC adaptions of Hogfather.

    Sky, not BBC. And the voice of Death in Hogfather was Ian Richardson. Lee did it for the (terrible) Colour of Magic mini-series, also by Sky.

    I disagree that the Colour of Magic was terrible. I thought it was a pretty good adaptation of both The Colour of Magic and The Light Fantastic.

    If a movement doesn't have someone that can sit down opposite those in a position of power and strike a deal, how can that movement achieve success?
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  • EncEnc A Fool with Compassion The Land of Flowers (and Dragons)Registered User regular
    Heffling wrote: »
    Bogart wrote: »
    Reminder that Christopher Lee as Death was already a thing in 90s animated adaptations of Soul Music and Wyrd Sisters

    He also voiced Death in the games and the recent BBC adaptions of Hogfather.

    Sky, not BBC. And the voice of Death in Hogfather was Ian Richardson. Lee did it for the (terrible) Colour of Magic mini-series, also by Sky.

    I disagree that the Colour of Magic was terrible. I thought it was a pretty good adaptation of both The Colour of Magic and The Light Fantastic.

    YMMV, but I've tried to watch it several times and always turn it off quickly because of how clunky and hamfisted the miniseries seemed.

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  • Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    Hogfather is the only Sky adaptation that was any good

    The others are clunky, miscast, miss the point of the books and are just generally depressing to watch

    The best adaptation is the Soul Music animated miniseries, because they do some fun stuff with the Band and it is a plot that works well translated to TV

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  • HefflingHeffling No Pic EverRegistered User regular
    Enc wrote: »
    Heffling wrote: »
    Bogart wrote: »
    Reminder that Christopher Lee as Death was already a thing in 90s animated adaptations of Soul Music and Wyrd Sisters

    He also voiced Death in the games and the recent BBC adaptions of Hogfather.

    Sky, not BBC. And the voice of Death in Hogfather was Ian Richardson. Lee did it for the (terrible) Colour of Magic mini-series, also by Sky.

    I disagree that the Colour of Magic was terrible. I thought it was a pretty good adaptation of both The Colour of Magic and The Light Fantastic.

    YMMV, but I've tried to watch it several times and always turn it off quickly because of how clunky and hamfisted the miniseries seemed.

    That's being true to the source material, which because it was early Pratchett was clunky and hamfisted at times.

    If a movement doesn't have someone that can sit down opposite those in a position of power and strike a deal, how can that movement achieve success?
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  • PhotosaurusPhotosaurus Registered User regular
    Gary oldman for Nobby

    he's played super short characters before :snap:

    Gary Oldman as the entire watch, Big Momma's House-style. Detritus and Cheeri included.

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  • EncEnc A Fool with Compassion The Land of Flowers (and Dragons)Registered User regular
    Heffling wrote: »
    Enc wrote: »
    Heffling wrote: »
    Bogart wrote: »
    Reminder that Christopher Lee as Death was already a thing in 90s animated adaptations of Soul Music and Wyrd Sisters

    He also voiced Death in the games and the recent BBC adaptions of Hogfather.

    Sky, not BBC. And the voice of Death in Hogfather was Ian Richardson. Lee did it for the (terrible) Colour of Magic mini-series, also by Sky.

    I disagree that the Colour of Magic was terrible. I thought it was a pretty good adaptation of both The Colour of Magic and The Light Fantastic.

    YMMV, but I've tried to watch it several times and always turn it off quickly because of how clunky and hamfisted the miniseries seemed.

    That's being true to the source material, which because it was early Pratchett was clunky and hamfisted at times.

    Defense of bad material being from a bad original book isn't perhaps the rousing hopeful chorus about this future project you might think it is.

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  • SchadenfreudeSchadenfreude Mean Mister Mustard Registered User regular
    Enc wrote: »
    Heffling wrote: »
    Enc wrote: »
    Heffling wrote: »
    Bogart wrote: »
    Reminder that Christopher Lee as Death was already a thing in 90s animated adaptations of Soul Music and Wyrd Sisters

    He also voiced Death in the games and the recent BBC adaptions of Hogfather.

    Sky, not BBC. And the voice of Death in Hogfather was Ian Richardson. Lee did it for the (terrible) Colour of Magic mini-series, also by Sky.

    I disagree that the Colour of Magic was terrible. I thought it was a pretty good adaptation of both The Colour of Magic and The Light Fantastic.

    YMMV, but I've tried to watch it several times and always turn it off quickly because of how clunky and hamfisted the miniseries seemed.

    That's being true to the source material, which because it was early Pratchett was clunky and hamfisted at times.

    Defense of bad material being from a bad original book isn't perhaps the rousing hopeful chorus about this future project you might think it is.

    I really like the books, but thought the Sky adaptation was terrible. The budget wasn't up to it and the casting was all wrong, David Jason is a great comic actor but he had no business being Rincewind - don't get me started on Sean Astin. I also have an over-abiding memory of the timing being off on everything - just hamfisted editing all around ruining action and comedy alike.

    The Hogfather was okay to good, but suffered from similar budget and editing problems - the stuff in TF's castle just never clicked. The only thing I remember from Going Postal is Claire Foy, Poirot and an unconvincing Mr Gryle.

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  • ShadowenShadowen Snores in the morning Registered User regular
    Charles Dance as Vetinari was effortlessly good and genius casting...except then they couldn't convince him to wear a wig. (I can see not dying his hair because he was still on Game of Thrones at that point IIRC.)

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  • Havelock2.0Havelock2.0 Registered User regular
    YESSS

    I hope they find some guest spots for the surviving Pythons

    I'd love to see Palin on there as CMOT Dibbler

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Enc wrote: »
    Heffling wrote: »
    Bogart wrote: »
    Reminder that Christopher Lee as Death was already a thing in 90s animated adaptations of Soul Music and Wyrd Sisters

    He also voiced Death in the games and the recent BBC adaptions of Hogfather.

    Sky, not BBC. And the voice of Death in Hogfather was Ian Richardson. Lee did it for the (terrible) Colour of Magic mini-series, also by Sky.

    I disagree that the Colour of Magic was terrible. I thought it was a pretty good adaptation of both The Colour of Magic and The Light Fantastic.

    YMMV, but I've tried to watch it several times and always turn it off quickly because of how clunky and hamfisted the miniseries seemed.

    It might just be a good adaptation of bad material.

    (I really don't like Colour Magic or Light Fantastic)

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  • Mr RayMr Ray Sarcasm sphereRegistered User regular
    edited November 2018
    Andy Serkis for fully CG Nobby Nobbs. I basically picture him as Gollum in armor anyway.

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  • AuralynxAuralynx Darkness is a perspective Watching the ego workRegistered User regular
    edited November 2018
    YESSS

    I hope they find some guest spots for the surviving Pythons

    I'd love to see Palin on there as CMOT Dibbler

    Cleese would presumably kill in any of the various superannuated nobleman / guild leader / whatever roles.

    E: Actually, he's probably too old for it but I think he'd manage to capture Mustrum Ridcully's essence fairly well given the chance.

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  • ShadowenShadowen Snores in the morning Registered User regular
    Mr Ray wrote: »
    Andy Serkis for fully CG Nobby Nobbs. I basically picture him as Gollum in armor anyway.

    Except he's doing a Cockney-accented version of his Ulysses Klau voice. Except more nasal, but just as deep.

  • Mr RayMr Ray Sarcasm sphereRegistered User regular
    I think Cleese is retired from performing now, sadly.

    Space.
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  • WearingglassesWearingglasses Of the friendly neighborhood variety Registered User regular
    If Mackenzie Crook can't be casted as Nobby, I vote him as CMOT Dibbler. He's got the earnest, slightly manic desperation look down.

    Who can Daniel Craig play?

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  • knitdanknitdan Oh no Too much hunnyRegistered User regular
    I haven’t really pictured most characters as famous actors, except that Vetinari looks like Stanley Tucci in my head. And Sgt Colon looks like Stephen Fry.

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  • ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    If Mackenzie Crook can't be casted as Nobby, I vote him as CMOT Dibbler. He's got the earnest, slightly manic desperation look down.

    Who can Daniel Craig play?

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  • knitdanknitdan Oh no Too much hunnyRegistered User regular
    David Craig is Wee Mad Arthur

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  • Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    Honestly, I think at this point I'd prefer it if all the actors were minor or new faces

    Which is probably going to happen

    Not that this kind of discussion isn't an interesting way to see how other people view the characters, but after a certain point it gets a bit "Idris Elba for the next Doctor Who!"

    Having said that: Idris Elba for Chrysoprase

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  • Redcoat-13Redcoat-13 Registered User regular
    Hattie Jacques would have made a good Cybill; in fact I wonder who else would have made a good choice from the Carry On films....

    Peter Butterworth as Fred is another one.

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