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2018 Congressional/Senate Election Results Thread
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It’s okay. Darkest timeline. Nothing for granted until Pelosi has the gavel and is hitting people in the face with it.
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Judge orders Florida recount extended to November 20.
Win or lose, every vote counts. I mean, clearly we actually should have won as I'm sure at least 15k votes in the state were rejected improperly, but, it's still good to spend as long as possible counting.
Well the minority leader is equivalent to the Speaker, just in the minority so with basically no power. If the GOP had the House it'd be a huge fight. Instead with a GOP President and highly partisan GOP Senate, he's not even second fiddle. He has been the big Tea Party/Freedom caucus leader previously and they aren't getting anything passed now so there was no reason to fight with the extreme wing. Steve Scalise has been the Majority Whip and will continue. Apparently Liz Cheney is going to be the #3 spot, Conference Chair which on the Dem side was Joe Crowley's.
The Dems will also have a Majority Leader, which was Steny Hoyer last time with . There's the Progressive Caucus, the more moderate New Democrats, and the basically Neo-Blue Dogs. Members of the last group are anti-Pelosi and there are some on the Progressive Caucus that oppose her as too establishment so maybe one of them gets a high position. Pelosi has the backing of NARAL, the AFL/CIO, and is gradually rolling out endorsements. I think the CBC and most of the Progressive Caucus and New Dems will back her. Steney Hoyer already has the votes for Majority Leader, which basically says only a real challenge from Pelosi's right is possible (he's substantially more conservative) and I don't see it. There doesn't seem to be anyone acceptable to the Blue Dogs types that would be fine with most of the caucus, which might be why there isn't an alternative candidate yet.
Jim Clyburn is being challenged by Diana DeGette(D-CO, Denver) for whip. I don't think you can boot the only African American (only non-white even) member of leadership, especially one with his pedigree.
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the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Well being the party that literally blame the state for unpreventable forest fires and threatens to not give them federal aid should kill your party there.
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I’d say I would love to see the look on his face the moment he’s informed he’s not actually a senator but I don’t want to see any look on his face because his face is made of nightmares.
He knows he might lose; it's why he's hemming and hawing about voting fraud and etc.
Count or recount? Like, the first count isn't even done yet, right?
The Dixiecrats just stole the name
It's a machine recount, isn't it? They can recount already counted votes while they count uncounted votes for the first time; so long as they keep shit separate.
I am genuinely unclear on if / when they finished, but not sure if the original total matters since they've got to run them all again anyway; and the premise is that the original count is being thrown out anyway.
It's a more thorough count, since the machine recount procedure includes copying damaged ballots and rechecking the machines; so no real loss.
Right.
Machine recount (copy damaged ballots, recalibrate sassy machines ) then a hand recount if the margin is still less than 0.25% and less than the total number of over/undervotes identified.
So Gillum can still get a hand count if the machine recount lands him in that zone. (A big "if")
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This is freaking hilarious.
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Probably someone that Warren endorsed. The GOP is desperately thirsty to cause a rift in the democrats.
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Warren is also on the short list of potential 2020 candidates so they're pretty happy to cheer at her misfortune.
Porter was Warren's protege and mentor back in college, or something to that effect. She's basically seen as Warren's chief side-kick or the like and so if she failed it's a shot at Warren.
Until it becomes ashes in their mouths.
Yeah, in this case it was most likely a PG&E equipment failure.
Buuuuut I'm getting off topic, I know.
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The power companies are responsible for caring for the areas they have their equipment on and for upkeeping that equipment. At least three major fires have been started by failures in the past three years, not to mention fire spreading over improperly maintained land in general. It's not looking good for them.
Another reason why getting more dems in the house might be helpful in that they can, if willing, apply more regulation.
edit sorry forgot links:
Thomspon Fire: https://www.npr.org/2018/10/31/662399218/southern-california-edison-says-it-is-partly-to-blame-for-thomas-fire
Might be responsible for a bunch more: https://www.npr.org/2018/08/09/637230064/california-wildfires-set-off-big-political-fight-on-who-should-pay-for-damage
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Natural disasters are here unless there is a thread specifically about the California fires I'm not seeing. Did somebody have the wrong tab open?
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Honestly I'm sick of the whole "Trump and the gop did pretty well" narrative. They were obliterated. Devastated. Republican strategists are weeping into their gerrymandering books as an easy path to power (gerrymandering the house) has crumbled beneath their feet. This was not a partial victory or a close run thing. The republicans SHOULD have won like 5 seats in the Senate. Democrats should have been fighting to keep them from being a supermajority. Only winning 3 or 2 with this map is them LOSING. Losing Arizona Senate seats is a damn catastrophe for them.
We're at the back end of the bell curve for the latest realignment. (Or the very beginning of a brand new one. Ask again in 40 years) Some demographics break faster than others, but we're basically just seeing the tail end of people coming to terms with who Democrats and Republicans are. Dems finally seeming to consistently win white college grads is going to continue, but more slowly than the loss of white non-college &c. Which will mostly be visible in the suburbs. It'll be interesting to see when more detailed breakdowns of the election come out.
Of course first we have to actually finish the election. *glares at Florida and Georgia*
the tax bill was a 50 foot tall neon FUCK YOU sign to those people.
They are also generally less interested in Trump's overt open right-wing politics.
Pod Save America had a good rant on this Tuesday but I think it is something that is worth restating.
The initial narrative last Tuesday was Dems did well but probably lost 3-4 Senate seats with maybe a single pick up in Nevada. They got the House but it wasn't by a giant margin so it wasn't a wave.
Problem is a lot of states are moving to mail in only or heavily mail in. Which takes longer to count which our horse racing Tuesday night 24 hour cable voteathon doesn't really work. Because the real results don't come in for a week or two. And with those results now in, it was a very large blue wave. And a huge turnout on both sides. And that is probably why Trump and a few others have been so angry because on Tuesday they were told it was a huge Republican win but a week later the narrative has been shown to be not true at all.
And it isn't the megarich that are going to be hurt, it's the Wall St Journals idea of "regular people" the Henry's and such.
Sure they have more money then they'll ever need, but they don't have the offshore tax haven money you needed to really take advantage. A lot of their net worth is tied up in their houses and such and they are about to get soaked this tax season.
Hell they haven't even gotten the bill yet and they rebelled, next year should be interesting.
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That belief, coming up against the reality of “actually, most of the country hates you and doesn’t like what you’re doing”, might be tough for Trump.
It wasn't a huge Republican win on Tuesday either! The house was lost on election night which is, by Republican design, supposed to be impossible. Like, they cheated, they rigged the dice so it said Republican on every side. They rolled it, and it turned into a damned dog turd.
They were down by 6 points on election night in a midterm. That means in reality they are losing in an 'everyone votes, no voter suppression, environment by like 12 points or more. They were annihilated. And it's just gotten worse for them every day since then.
Within 3 points in TEXAS? A catastrophe. And so on.