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2018 Congressional/Senate Election Results Thread
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Right wing media gonna right wing media. AOC being political media popular isn't going to push the needle unless she really grows into a position of power and influence. It's nice having someone liberal and enthusiastic and charismatic out there doing their thing, but if you don't like her it's easy to ignore her, and it's not like she's hurting anything.
I just hope she is a workhorse rather than a showhorse when she actually becomes a Member of Congress next month.
They are trying to draft Beto for something else because he didn't win, but was extremely exciting.
Also, if we are specifically talking of the date we cannot name, she is constitutionally barred from running for the Unnamed Office then.
Yeah, this and the fact that she's from NYC (where most media is based as mentioned upthread) are big reasons why she's getting more coverage than some of her incoming freshman contemporaries.
Between her and Rashida Tlaib there will be self-described socialists other than Bernie Sanders in Congress for the first time in a while, and that's freaking certain groups of people out.
One of these days Old Democrats are finally going to get the hint that they are old and younger people are coming in to replace them and that's just too damn bad for them. Time is linear, everyone gets old, and along with that age comes being increasingly out of touch.
She was facing off against someone in leadership, which are usually safe seats.
We are literally talking about why her win is notable.
Also, Pelosi is not centrist.
The people trying to upset her Speakership are, though.
Pelosi's dismissive reaction of her primary win was, well, dismissive but let's not feed into the right-wing propaganda that Ocasio-Cortez and her have some beef because of the (surprise!) disingenuously reported story of the latter's participation in a demonstration in front of Pelosi's office.
And at any rate I didn't say they had a beef. I'm saying Pelosi is set in her ways and is too stupid to see the times are changing. As are other Centrists. Rather than embrace the change they fight against it. They're going to lose, as we've seen.
Pelosi isn't a centrist. Though she is the best Speaker since Rayburn and I'm looking forward to her wielding the gavel again, but with the clear need for succession planning.
She represents a goods future for the party.
Anyway, she's being smart and keeping the engagment she had during the election going while in office. Campaigns never end.
I mean, what she'll do is vote how Pelosi tells her to, for 18 months, and then go campaign again.
1st term Rep, no tenure, no committee presence... what she's going to do is click agree a couple hundred times, the end.
She's been pushing back on some party plans regarding climate policy already. I dont think she'll get a ton done, but neither will the House as a whole. I wouldnt count on her just being a seat warmer.
“All she’s going to do is vote because she has no seniority, and her votes won’t mean anything because Dems only control the House”
Also
“How dare she use the press and social media to get her message out”
Meanwhile I’m like how can you not love somebody saying things like this:
She's using social media advantageously, but that was about fucking time. Can't let that shit be ruled by 4chan and other internet nazis forever.
AOC is A-OK in my book.
Yeah, not too many places where we can hear old people joke about young people not wanting to work.
I'm simply pointing out the different reactions that come with a white man becoming a media sensation outsizing his official standing and a young non-white woman.
AOC represents policy that the democratic party is going to have to be dragged kicking and screaming to
she's a popular, exciting politician who supports policy that large swathes of party leadership want to lock up in the attic
things are gonna get weird
You think we got everything in the first 2 years of Obama's term without leadership?
Without rehashing strategies from the time, Obama let a lot of the movement politics that he built for Dems wither when he got into office. Leftists noticed and AOC, for her part, seems interested in not letting the same happen again.
That being said, she's neither the first or the most successful politician to leverage social media on their favor. The first is arguable, the latter is Trump.
If that's the shining example of Dem leadership going forward, gods help us all. AOC may not change anything in the long run, I don't buy into saviors swooping in by their lonesome but it is fucking refreshing to see someone, anyone, willing to say that things are fucking broken in America and have been for a long time. I'm tired of the Dems playing nice, that tactic has been tried to death. The GOP is never going to compromise with centrism.
The ACA as "minor tweak" is just fucking laughable. Right from the start you are already trying a drastic reframing of reality and it then you go off the rails.
It's good to see new blood in the ranks but this attempt to act like everyone else in the Democratic party is the enemy is just silly.
We really remember the 111th Congress very differently.
If your paradigm can read hundreds of thousands of stories about vulnerable people getting access to health care who used to not have access, and call it “minor,” your paradigm is goosey.
There's a long argument to be had here but this isn't that thread.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/democrat-bill-nelson-concedes-to-rick-scott-in-florida-race-for-senate/2018/11/18/7037a620-eac1-11e8-a939-9469f1166f9d_story.html