Animation Thread

Nogs

This thread is for all things animated. From old school:


To new school:



From Marvel:


To DC:


Over the years, we've seen animated re-imagings of our favorite comic book characters. Some have even sparked up heated debates about whether or not they are truly 'faithful' to their graphic counter-parts:



Others avoid this by creating an entirely new persona for an already established character. Sometimes these new characters are so good, that they should become a mainstay in their respective graphic universe:



Discuss everything you love/hate about the animated world of comic book characters.

Is The Batman a piece of crap?
Is X-Men: Evolution too X-treme?
Will there ever be an animated Image character?
Just how awesome is the DCAU compared to the Marvel AU?
Which Spider-Man series is the best?
Is Bruce Timm the best thing to happen to animation since Walt Disney?

DVG

Is The Batman a piece of crap? No. It's not great, but there are a lot of good ideas in that show that make it interesting enough to watch. It doesn't stack up to the Timmverse shows. But it's alright.
Is X-Men: Evolution too X-treme? X-Men Evolution is awesome.
Just how awesome is the DCAU compared to the Marvel AU? DC has pretty consistently kicked Marvel's ass in cartoons for awhile now.
Which Spider-Man series is the best? Spider-Man and his AMAZING FRIENDS!
Is Bruce Timm the best thing to happen to animation since Walt Disney? Yes.

Calamity Jane

The best Spider-Man series is the adjectiveless one from the 90s. With motherfucking Ed Asner.

Golden Yak

Nogs wrote: »

Will there ever be an animated Image character?

Um... Spawn?

Nogs

Golden Yak wrote: »

Nogs wrote: »

Will there ever be an animated Image character?

Um... Spawn?

He was animated? I wasn't sure about that one. I'll have to check that out.

Calamity Jane

It was fucking awesome, for the record. Keith David is the shit.

Incenjucar

Nogs wrote: »

Golden Yak wrote: »

Nogs wrote: »

Will there ever be an animated Image character?

Um... Spawn?

He was animated? I wasn't sure about that one. I'll have to check that out.

http://www.spawn.com/entertainment/spawnanimation/

http://www.spawn.com/news/news3.aspx?id=12652

But.... it was animated years ago... so... I guess they tried to bring it back...?

Originally in 1997... looks like a new new one soon.

Huh.

Nogs

Incenjucar wrote: »

Nogs wrote: »

Golden Yak wrote: »

Nogs wrote: »

Will there ever be an animated Image character?

Um... Spawn?

He was animated? I wasn't sure about that one. I'll have to check that out.

http://www.spawn.com/entertainment/spawnanimation/

http://www.spawn.com/news/news3.aspx?id=12652

But.... it was animated years ago... so... I guess they tried to bring it back...?

Originally in 1997... looks like a new new one soon.

Huh.

Well, that makes me look like a fool. Either way though, badass. Should be worth looking into at least. I think Image could make a pretty cool Invincible cartoon. Tone down the violence a little bit, but otherwise I think it could be turned into a pretty cool animated series.

Zombot

I was so expecting the new Fantastic Four cartoon to suck.
I had a fit when I heard Doom's voice.
But try as I might to hate it, I couldn't.
It was just too much fun to watch.

And Sue Storm was totally hot in the show.

bobgorila

Should I be following the new FF show then?

I kind of liked the Marvel Action hour version from years ago... (though Hulk was better)

Also: there should be an Invincible cartoon. There fucking should.

Sentry

Oh my god... animated Spawn was so badass... it was everything the movie should have been, but wasn't. Also... the Marvel AU is indeed lacking compared to the DCAU... because Marvel try's to keep their characters in their perspective boxes rather then letting them lose in a shared Universe.

X-Men Evolution was great, so was the 90's spidey and X-men. But that's because the last two weren't afraid to be about the comics... and the first was just neat, I guess.

Zombot

Is the new FF cartoon still on?
I used to watch it on Cartoon Network, but they haven't aired it in a while.

Sentry

Zombot wrote: »

Is the new FF cartoon still on?
I used to watch it on Cartoon Network, but they haven't aired it in a while.

I've heard they are planning on starting up again to time with the movie release... but it hasn't been on for months and months and months...

Zombot

Oh good.
I'm so glad.
I truly love that show so much and I really don't know why.

Zeromus

I keep putting off the purchase of the Justice League DVDs. And the last volume of Batman: TAS. I should get on that.

Also, I think a certain movie deserves a big mention in this thread:




It is one of my favorite films of all time, doggies. It is just so good.

Zombot

Batman: TAS is one of my favorite cartoons of all time.

I was furious when they changed the style to match the Superman cartoon.
They made Joker look less scary and I think the Scarecrow went through three character designs.
The show lost so much appeal for me after they did that.

Nogs

Word up on that. I'm actually very slowly acquiring my animated series/movies. I just wish marvel would actually put x-men out. All you can get are crappy 'pirated' VCDs instead of official DVDs - its really quite annoying.

Zeromus

Zombot wrote: »

Batman: TAS is one of my favorite cartoons of all time.

I was furious when they changed the style to match the Superman cartoon.
They made Joker look less scary and I think the Scarecrow went through three character designs.
The show lost so much appeal for me after they did that.

I'm of the opinion that Scarecrow's redesign was actually an improvement. If Joker's was less scary, then Scarecrow's was markedly more demented and creepy.

Zombot

Zeromus wrote: »

Zombot wrote: »

Batman: TAS is one of my favorite cartoons of all time.

I was furious when they changed the style to match the Superman cartoon.
They made Joker look less scary and I think the Scarecrow went through three character designs.
The show lost so much appeal for me after they did that.

I'm of the opinion that Scarecrow's redesign was actually an improvement. If Joker's was less scary, then Scarecrow's was markedly more demented and creepy.

This is so true.
At one point he looked like Death.

Munch

I never really understood Poison Ivy's redesign though. Like, was there some logical reason for her to become albino all of a sudden or was it just to move away from the old style? That's not to say I didn't like it, I just didn't understand it.

DMAC

Golden Yak wrote: »

Nogs wrote: »

Will there ever be an animated Image character?

Um... Spawn?

There were short-lived WildC.A.T.S., The Maxx and Savage Dragon cartoons too.

The Lovely Bastard

I actually have all of the Spawn Cartoon on DVD and am watching it now.

I always wonder if the comic was as well written as the show.

I also used to watch the Savage Dragon cartoon all the time.

A dragon cop? AWESOME

Nogs

Man, how could I have forgotten WILDCats? That was seriously one of my favorite shows of all time. I loved the guy who could morph his hands and had green hair. Coolest dude ever.

Algertman

No mention of Savage Dragon?....For shame

nah, it sucked

Blankspace

Man...2 posts up.

JCM

Zeromus wrote: »

I keep putting off the purchase of the Justice League DVDs. And the last volume of Batman: TAS. I should get on that.

Also, I think a certain movie deserves a big mention in this thread:




It is one of my favorite films of all time, doggies. It is just so good.

After Beauty and the Beast, this is best American animated film ever.

SpeedySwaf

Speaking of Image, I sometimes think Invincible would make a great animated series.

Also, who can forget:

Reynolds

Also, that first FF pic isn't old school enough. I believe the first FF series had HERBIE instead of Johnny.

Or is the Thing Ring older than that?

Htown

JCM wrote: »

Zeromus wrote: »

I keep putting off the purchase of the Justice League DVDs. And the last volume of Batman: TAS. I should get on that.

Also, I think a certain movie deserves a big mention in this thread:




It is one of my favorite films of all time, doggies. It is just so good.

After Beauty and the Beast, this is best American animated film ever.

Nah. It's not even the best Batman animated film ever.

Return of the Joker is better.

JCM

Htown wrote: »

JCM wrote: »

Zeromus wrote: »

I keep putting off the purchase of the Justice League DVDs. And the last volume of Batman: TAS. I should get on that.

Also, I think a certain movie deserves a big mention in this thread:




It is one of my favorite films of all time, doggies. It is just so good.

After Beauty and the Beast, this is best American animated film ever.

Nah. It's not even the best Batman animated film ever.

Return of the Joker is better.

I dont know, I think my opinion is different.

Phantasm was a very emotional, beautiful movie, while ROTJ was a good Batman Beyond action film, and Im more for the first style.

DJ Eebs

God, the Lion King is better than Mask of the Phantasm and Beauty and the Beast combined.

There is no reasoning with me on this.

Zeromus

Return of the Joker is absolute shit in comparison to Mask of the Phantasm.

Anyone older than the age of 13 would probably be able to realize there is a gigantic gap between the two. Which isn't to say that Return of the Joker is bad, but it's like comparing a Big Mac to a perfect fillet mignon that's basted with the golden love fluid of the Lord himself.

Charmy

Geebs wrote: »

God, the Lion King is better than Mask of the Phantasm and Beauty and the Beast combined.

There is no reasoning with me on this.

It's okay Geebs. I understand.

On the subject, I, uh.... I haven't seen Mask of the Phantasm.

....somebody, please. I need help.

Garlic Bread

Zeromus wrote: »

Return of the Joker is absolute shit in comparison to Mask of the Phantasm.

Anyone older than the age of 13 would probably be able to realize there is a gigantic gap between the two. Which isn't to say that Return of the Joker is bad, but it's like comparing a Big Mac to a perfect fillet mignon that's basted with the golden love fluid of the Lord himself.

But I don't eat meat!

JCM

Geebs wrote: »

God, the Lion King is better than Mask of the Phantasm and Beauty and the Beast combined.

There is no reasoning with me on this.

The only Oscar nomination for BEST FRIGGING FILM given to an animated movie snagged by Beauty and the Beast says otherwise.

But Lion King was awesome in its own right, which makes the sequel/ass raping by Disney so much more painful.

Dex Dynamo

Lion King 1 1/2 was awesome, and I will hear nothing to the contrary.

DJ Eebs

JCM wrote: »

Geebs wrote: »

God, the Lion King is better than Mask of the Phantasm and Beauty and the Beast combined.

There is no reasoning with me on this.

The only Oscar nomination for BEST FRIGGING FILM given to an animated movie snagged by Beauty and the Beast says otherwise.

But Lion King was awesome in its own right, which makes the sequel/ass raping by Disney so much more painful.

man the towering inferno was nominated for best picture

Zeromus

The Iron Giant is a rad film.

JCM

Geebs wrote: »

JCM wrote: »

Geebs wrote: »

God, the Lion King is better than Mask of the Phantasm and Beauty and the Beast combined.

There is no reasoning with me on this.

The only Oscar nomination for BEST FRIGGING FILM given to an animated movie snagged by Beauty and the Beast says otherwise.

But Lion King was awesome in its own right, which makes the sequel/ass raping by Disney so much more painful.

man the towering inferno was nominated for best picture

Towering inferno was "yet another film" to be nominated for Best picture.

Beauty and the Beast is the first and only animated picture to ever be nominated for the Academy Award for Best Picture.

It also was the first animated film to win the Golden Globe for Best Motion Picture — Musical or Comedy (Lion King and Toy Story 2 managed this later).

Its the only 2D animated film to get a 93%+ rating average on Rotten tomatos (Lion King got a 92%). Pixar however has a 2-time 100% record with both Toy stories.

Yeah its a musical, a genre that seems dead to modern audiences, but its still one of the best animated films ever.

Bloods End

Keith wrote: »

Zeromus wrote: »

Return of the Joker is absolute shit in comparison to Mask of the Phantasm.

Anyone older than the age of 13 would probably be able to realize there is a gigantic gap between the two. Which isn't to say that Return of the Joker is bad, but it's like comparing a Big Mac to a perfect fillet mignon that's basted with the golden love fluid of the Lord himself.

But I don't eat meat!

Go clean your vagina. This is man talk.

Garlic Bread

JCM wrote: »

Geebs wrote: »

JCM wrote: »

Geebs wrote: »

God, the Lion King is better than Mask of the Phantasm and Beauty and the Beast combined.

There is no reasoning with me on this.

The only Oscar nomination for BEST FRIGGING FILM given to an animated movie snagged by Beauty and the Beast says otherwise.

But Lion King was awesome in its own right, which makes the sequel/ass raping by Disney so much more painful.

man the towering inferno was nominated for best picture

Towering inferno was "yet another film" to be nominated for Best picture.

Beauty and the Beast is the first and only animated picture to ever be nominated for the Academy Award for Best Picture.

That doesn't necessarily mean it's good. It could just mean everything else sucked

(it is good though)