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Also, if we're talking about old animation Watership Down and The Plague Dogs deserve an honorable mention for trying to break the mold of "cartoons are for children" and do something with actual artistic merit.
I think the Teen Titans show is so different it doesn't really need to be mentioned. It's more of an Ultimates-style of 'reimagining' it. The characters have the same names, powers, etc. but everything's tweenified. Attacking things they got wrong would be pointless. I just try to enjoy what it is.
A Nextwave cartoon on Adult Swim might be interesting. It could just be as wild and random as they wanted it to be. Maybe fifteen minutes of that and fifteen of Deadpool.
I've watched a few episodes of X-men on youtube and the like, and yes it is a bit of Nostalgia creeping in when I think about how awesome it was, it really wasn't that great, and the animation is pretty bad. I love it though, and it has had the effect on me of searing those voices into my brain, if I read Wolverine he sounds like the cartoon wolverine in my head. Professor X might be a little mixed between cartoon and Patrick Stewart though :P I'm still kinda amazed just how much they managed to fit into the show though, the amount of story arcs they covered is pretty staggering.
Also the Japanese versions of the intro when they imported the show, complete with Jubilee throwing hadokens everywhere, what the fuck? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEx9r5enZsk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLyW7XwmmDk
Spider-man I haven't seen in ages, but I'm going to assume it's in the same boat as X-men, not that great nowdays. Doesn't stop me from loving it all the same. And it kicks the absolute shit out of Spider-man unlimited, what a piece of crap that was. With the friendly comedy relief Green Goblin and the... Oh man
Batman: the animated series on the other hand, perhaps I'm being nostalgic about it too, but I'm pretty sure that show was actually a top quality show that would hold up even today, it was just sooo good.
The Maxx was pretty awesome in it's own way too. Although it was on in some weird timeslot here along with Liquid Television, actually it might have been part of Liquid Television come to think of it...
Batman: the animated series on the other hand, perhaps I'm being nostalgic about it too, but I'm pretty sure that show was actually a top quality show that would hold up even today, it was just sooo good.
No, you're not being nostalgic. It really did kick all kinds of ass. Of all the animated series I've seen based on comic books, it's hands down my favorite. Though I haven't seen the Spawn animated series so my opinion might change.
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Back on the reimaging of the DCAU, I do know that eventually (not sure exactly when, but they did) change Joker back to his original style sometime in the JL/JLU timeframe.
As for Ivy, I don't think she was suppose to be an Albino. I coulda sworn her skin had a green tinge to it.
Back on the reimaging of the DCAU, I do know that eventually (not sure exactly when, but they did) change Joker back to his original style sometime in the JL/JLU timeframe.
As for Ivy, I don't think she was suppose to be an Albino. I coulda sworn her skin had a green tinge to it.
She started out as a normal woman. Somewhere along the line she got green skin.
I remember watching Batman: animated series for the first time. The only channel that carried it played the Man Bat episode fifty times at least before showing a new episode. My brothers and I were sick to death of it but it was impossible not to watch!
Also what ever happened to that CGI spider-man cartoon from I guess two or three years ago? I don't think it got past the first season.
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Also what ever happened to that CGI spider-man cartoon from I guess two or three years ago? I don't think it got past the first season.
Yeah, it was on MTV> It was actually okay. They really re-worked some villains. Like electro was completely different - some emo nerd kid turned pure electricity by accident. I don't think it'll get picked up for a second season. Personally I think MTV was a horrible choice to air something like this. They cancel shows all the time. It would have to be on network television, or something like cartoon network in order to thrive.
Yeah, it only ran one season. Spider-Man: The New Animated Series was actually pretty good once you got over the cell shaded animation style. The web-slinging/action sequences were cool. Some of the changes (Electro being an emo loser) were pretty bad, but overall it sort of felt like a blend of the movies and Ultimate Spider-Man. There's a 2 DVD set out with all 13 episodes.
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The ending was rough. Peter decides being Spidey sucks and chucks his costume into the hudson inside a suitcase with a brick in it, presumably to come back in some spectacular way at the beginning of the next season. I was sorry to see it go.
I remember that show being kinda boring.
Then again, I was really hoping for it to be like the 90's Spider-Man show.
Speaking of which, I caught an episode a while ago on T.V.
That show was so fast paced I could hardly keep up.
There's a Best Buy bargain bin with one of these DVDs in it near you. Right now. GO BUY IT.
This is what Timm based his Batman/Superman designs on. All of them are full of awesome.
While I grew up on Zan and Jaina, and horrible, horrible images of H.E.R.B.I.E. in my head, I have to say, nostalgia makes Superfirends and Fantastic Four some of my favorites. Same goes for Spiderman & His Amazing Friends- especially when they combined it with the Hulk for an hour of comic goodness.
Today, I'm a big fan of high quality animation, as well as good storytelling. That's why the DCAU wins hands down for me. I'd agree with most people that Batman: Mask of the Phantasm was one of the best DCAU movies done, but the animation wasn't quite as good as some of the episodes. Compare it to SubZero, or World's Finest. But the story? Can't beat it.
A little trivia: acording to The Inflation Calculator, one of those Fleischer cartoons today would have cost almost 1.4 million dollars. I think most cartoons are lucky to get half that for almost three times the length.
There's a Best Buy bargain bin with one of these DVDs in it near you. Right now. GO BUY IT.
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Has anyone here seen the Spawn series? Any thoughts on it?
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Saw it on HBO when it first aired. I never followed the comic, but I thought that it was fairly good.
Wish I coulda watched it on a regular basis. There are some good storylines where Spawn has to fight some other Hellspawns as well as some Spawn hunters and the detectives also have thier own troubles.
Keith David is Spawn (win) and the guy that played Harvey in Batman TAS plays the lead detective (forget his name).
The ending was rough. Peter decides being Spidey sucks and chucks his costume into the hudson inside a suitcase with a brick in it, presumably to come back in some spectacular way at the beginning of the next season. I was sorry to see it go.
I had a feeling that if they continued that cliffhanger...
It would have turned out to be a dream. A hallucination caused by Kraven. There was at least one hint at this earlier in the episode. Plus, Mary Jane dying, and Peter getting advice from Stan Lee on the matter of her dying?
By the way, I read on SuperheroHype a while ago that they were making yet another Spider-Man animated series. I guess we can maybe expect another reboot with the same origins for the heroes and villains told over again for the billionth time.
The ending was rough. Peter decides being Spidey sucks and chucks his costume into the hudson inside a suitcase with a brick in it, presumably to come back in some spectacular way at the beginning of the next season. I was sorry to see it go.
I had a feeling that if they continued that cliffhanger...
It would have turned out to be a dream. A hallucination caused by Kraven. There was at least one hint at this earlier in the episode. Plus, Mary Jane dying, and Peter getting advice from Stan Lee on the matter of her dying?
By the way, I read on SuperheroHype a while ago that they were making yet another Spider-Man animated series. I guess we can maybe expect another reboot with the same origins for the heroes and villains told over again for the billionth time.
that's what i liked about spider-man: unlimited
it had a NO origin stories, and threw parker in a brand new world with almost no continuity from previous.
they could have written anything they wanted....oh squandered talent
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Ultimate Spidey seems almost perfect to be adapted for a cartoon. And if Bendis wrote it? Man, that'd be awesome.
Oh dude, the Spawn series was so bad.
There were shadows...everywhere.
Cops were shadowed, food was shadowed, light bulbs were shadowed.
Gee... why on earth would a Spwan cartoon work in a setting that relies heavily on shadow... Spawn would definately work better in a setting more akin to Rainbow Brite...
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When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
Maybe it was just the episode I saw a while ago, but they went crazy with the shadows.
There was a light shining in the room and both Sam and Twitch were fully shaded.
They were facing the light.
I understand that they were going for the city of darkness look but there's no reason to ignore simple shading rules.
By the way, I read on SuperheroHype a while ago that they were making yet another Spider-Man animated series. I guess we can maybe expect another reboot with the same origins for the heroes and villains told over again for the billionth time.
It also sounds fucking awesome. Sean "cheeks" Galloway (Teen Titans Go!, Hellboy: Animated), Greg Weisman (Gargoyles), and Vic Cook (Director of Hellboy: Blood and Iron)? Fuck yes.
I've got a gigantic man crush on Galloway and his art style though. I mean, look at this. Awesome.
I want Batman Beyond back... I mean, seriously, to have a cartoon where they go around saying "schwey" all the time still be that freaking fantastic...
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'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
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Both Toy Stories are at 100%, Incredibles and Finding Nemo at 97% and 98%
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Beauty and the Beast and Lion King pale in comparison to Fantasia. They aren't even in the same league.
Night on Bald Mountain ftw.
That isn't old school.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMQj8NCey1A
Hulk's origin from the cartoon. Is it just me, or does the gamma bomb look a little like a giant gamma dong?
That show got like, 90 things in the comic changed.
Also, She-Hulks origin in the 90s Hulk cartoon was vaguely sexual.
And by "vaguely" I mean "You really have to be trying to not notice."
A Nextwave cartoon on Adult Swim might be interesting. It could just be as wild and random as they wanted it to be. Maybe fifteen minutes of that and fifteen of Deadpool.
I've watched a few episodes of X-men on youtube and the like, and yes it is a bit of Nostalgia creeping in when I think about how awesome it was, it really wasn't that great, and the animation is pretty bad. I love it though, and it has had the effect on me of searing those voices into my brain, if I read Wolverine he sounds like the cartoon wolverine in my head. Professor X might be a little mixed between cartoon and Patrick Stewart though :P I'm still kinda amazed just how much they managed to fit into the show though, the amount of story arcs they covered is pretty staggering.
Also the Japanese versions of the intro when they imported the show, complete with Jubilee throwing hadokens everywhere, what the fuck?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEx9r5enZsk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLyW7XwmmDk
Spider-man I haven't seen in ages, but I'm going to assume it's in the same boat as X-men, not that great nowdays. Doesn't stop me from loving it all the same. And it kicks the absolute shit out of Spider-man unlimited, what a piece of crap that was. With the friendly comedy relief Green Goblin and the... Oh man
Batman: the animated series on the other hand, perhaps I'm being nostalgic about it too, but I'm pretty sure that show was actually a top quality show that would hold up even today, it was just sooo good.
The Maxx was pretty awesome in it's own way too. Although it was on in some weird timeslot here along with Liquid Television, actually it might have been part of Liquid Television come to think of it...
No, you're not being nostalgic. It really did kick all kinds of ass. Of all the animated series I've seen based on comic books, it's hands down my favorite. Though I haven't seen the Spawn animated series so my opinion might change.
As for Ivy, I don't think she was suppose to be an Albino. I coulda sworn her skin had a green tinge to it.
She started out as a normal woman. Somewhere along the line she got green skin.
Also what ever happened to that CGI spider-man cartoon from I guess two or three years ago? I don't think it got past the first season.
Yeah, it was on MTV> It was actually okay. They really re-worked some villains. Like electro was completely different - some emo nerd kid turned pure electricity by accident. I don't think it'll get picked up for a second season. Personally I think MTV was a horrible choice to air something like this. They cancel shows all the time. It would have to be on network television, or something like cartoon network in order to thrive.
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Then again, I was really hoping for it to be like the 90's Spider-Man show.
Speaking of which, I caught an episode a while ago on T.V.
That show was so fast paced I could hardly keep up.
There's a Best Buy bargain bin with one of these DVDs in it near you. Right now. GO BUY IT.
This is what Timm based his Batman/Superman designs on. All of them are full of awesome.
While I grew up on Zan and Jaina, and horrible, horrible images of H.E.R.B.I.E. in my head, I have to say, nostalgia makes Superfirends and Fantastic Four some of my favorites. Same goes for Spiderman & His Amazing Friends- especially when they combined it with the Hulk for an hour of comic goodness.
Today, I'm a big fan of high quality animation, as well as good storytelling. That's why the DCAU wins hands down for me. I'd agree with most people that Batman: Mask of the Phantasm was one of the best DCAU movies done, but the animation wasn't quite as good as some of the episodes. Compare it to SubZero, or World's Finest. But the story? Can't beat it.
The animation was exceptional considering when it was made.
Those cartoons were the best when I was three and they're the best now
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They use a lot of rotoscoping.
I mean, they're still fucking awesome looking
But not particularly advanced
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Has anyone here seen the Spawn series? Any thoughts on it?
Wish I coulda watched it on a regular basis. There are some good storylines where Spawn has to fight some other Hellspawns as well as some Spawn hunters and the detectives also have thier own troubles.
Keith David is Spawn (win) and the guy that played Harvey in Batman TAS plays the lead detective (forget his name).
There were shadows...everywhere.
Cops were shadowed, food was shadowed, light bulbs were shadowed.
Rectify this.
By the way, I read on SuperheroHype a while ago that they were making yet another Spider-Man animated series. I guess we can maybe expect another reboot with the same origins for the heroes and villains told over again for the billionth time.
that's what i liked about spider-man: unlimited
it had a NO origin stories, and threw parker in a brand new world with almost no continuity from previous.
they could have written anything they wanted....oh squandered talent
One would think with all the movies they would get a cartoon out there.
Gee... why on earth would a Spwan cartoon work in a setting that relies heavily on shadow... Spawn would definately work better in a setting more akin to Rainbow Brite...
There was a light shining in the room and both Sam and Twitch were fully shaded.
They were facing the light.
I understand that they were going for the city of darkness look but there's no reason to ignore simple shading rules.
It also sounds fucking awesome. Sean "cheeks" Galloway (Teen Titans Go!, Hellboy: Animated), Greg Weisman (Gargoyles), and Vic Cook (Director of Hellboy: Blood and Iron)? Fuck yes.
I've got a gigantic man crush on Galloway and his art style though. I mean, look at this. Awesome.
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It could be set in the Batman Beyond time-frame, and use Bart as the flash.
There would be JY flashbacks, and I would cry a tear of joy each time.
Anally.
Oh and that Flash design is fantastic.