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2019 Shutdown Boogaloo Part 2 : Border "Wall" negotiations
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oh I thought we were talking about the budget sorry
I like quantum theory as much as the next person but we shouldn't be running an entire country based on a thought experiment.
I can has cheezburger, yes?
Even if that were right - and honestly I expect there’s some way legal somewhere of dealing with a Supreme Court judge who rules that something demonstrably untrue is true - will they want to? There’s no way around it. There’s a very clear statement from Trump himself on the day he confirms he’s seeking to declare an emergency saying he’s only doing it to get what he wants done faster. To rule that it is in fact an emergency in the face of that is to have yourself forever marked as nothing more than a Trump flunkie.
I’d rather have Trump waste his time focusing on getting his wall built, only to have it blow up in his face and never go anywhere.
He managed to find a typical infuriating hypocrisy laden way to phrase it.
Maybe Obama should have declared a national emergency to get a vote on his Supreme Court nominee, McConnell you asshole.
The American people aren't paying attention to McConnell's statements.
Random twitterer, used because I didn't want to directly link to her tweet.
There is not. The buck stops with the SCOTUS. That's why the Republicans will do anything to control it.
It doesn't matter what Trump directly said. There's literally already been rulings that Trump's statements don't matter as it pertains to the muslim ban as I remember.
Trump's statements make it less likely and make it more blatant, but they don't make it anything like impossible. This SCOTUS may be extremely willing to defer to the executive on matters of "national security". Especially when it's a Republican.
No he's not. Basically the entire history of his court's major decisions is over-turning norms and precedent.
McConnell got painted into a corner by Trump. Either he lets him have the emergency, or he would shut the government down again. Neither would end well, but Mitch is betting on the emergency doing less damage.
Remember, Coulter is against the emergency because it doesn't go far enough. Her complaint isn't that Trump is scamming his base by grabbing money to build the wall, it's that he's not grabbing enough money and not forcing the wall to be built everywhere immediately. She means 'scamming' in that he's not racist and dictatorial enough.
Like even gauging against the average, he just did not have coherent thoughts.
Yup. He knows a shutdown would be really bad and potentially really prolonged (since like last time, it all depends on Trump caving, which he is loathe to do). So he's rolling the dice on the emergency deceleration appeasing Trump and not blowing back on them too much. And so you see him already trying to spin the whole thing as the Democrat's fault.
McConnell could have just told Trump, “We are sending you a clean CR. If you veto it, we will override your veto.”
He wasn’t painted into shit. He’s complicit.
He let it get this far in the first place.
She means scamming in the sense that the emergency deceleration is all for show and nobody is actually getting a wall out of this. And she's correct.
Sure, if he wants to lose re-election as Trump shits on him.
... Did he actually say that?
Wall/emergency discussion can go in the immigration thread now.
Better: Declare a national emergency to simply install whoever he wants bypassing the senate entirely.
Democrats should literally bring this up, and things like it.
"It is our opinion that the shortage of womens healthcare provision and childrens healthcare provision in this country is a national emergency, espescially in the inner cities. If Donald Trump uses a national emergency to build his wall, we pledge to use the same powers to take money from ICE to build childrens hospitals and womens health clinics."
One of the reporters started reading off DOJ statistics and Trump said that information was wrong while also failing to provide any sources for his information. At one point Trump interrupted the reporter and just kept saying he was wrong.
I'd really love to have Daniel Dale contrast his experiences covering crack addict mayor Rob Ford with Donald Trump.
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https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/02/15/politics/violence-against-women-act-spending-bill/index.html?r=https://www.cnn.com/politics
Per Sanders Trump has signed the bill, local outlets are reporting
https://www.wsls.com/news/politics/trump-signs-spending-bill-to-avert-shutdown
Catch you all in the immigration thread. We're meeting back here in September, right?