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[Xbox/XBL] Battlefront II SP Sucked (but Gavankar was great): A Retrospective

SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today!Registered User regular
edited October 2019 in Games and Technology
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Hey, I used to play that!

It's another Xbox, console hardware and Xbox Live thread! Here we talk about absurd Game Pass discounts, Play Anywhere titles, backwards compatibility, cross-platform play, Terry Crews, the dreamy lads at Digital Foundry, and what games we loved from the turn of the century! Wow!

Games with Gold

As always, for those with the paid XBL membership "Xbox Live Gold", four free titles are made available for download for limited timed--two on Xbox One (which require continued membership) and two on Xbox 360 (which are yours in perpetuity). Additionally, all Xbox 360 titles are among the backwards compatible (more on that below).

Xbox Game Pass

Like the Xbox-only service EA Access, Xbox Game Pass is Microsoft's own subscription gaming catalog service ("Netflix for video games") with over a hundred periodically rotating titles, making it attractive for digital only libraries and people who want to try first party new exclusives (which will make the rounds on the service at the time of their launch). There is no limit on how many games you can download and install from it, and access is for as long as the subscription holds--permanent purchases made from the catalog are discounted 20%, and DLC by 10% It does not require Xbox Live Gold (though you would need that for multiplayer access). Game Pass also extends to Xbox Play Anywhere games on Windows 10, just look for the separate download and purchase buttons on the Microsoft Store app.

Xbox One Backwards Compatibility with the Xbox

It's not just for the Xbox 360 anymore! In addition to more than four hundred Xbox 360 titles, more than thirty 'Original Xbox' titles are now playable on the Xbox One (both 'base' and 'X' variations), with some visual upgrades (such as resolution bumps to 1080p and beyond, not capable on the original console, and improved framerate). Most recent additions include a truckload of classic Star Wars titles, including both original Battlefront titles (the non-microtransaction ones), Republic Commando and KOTOR II. They work the same way as Xbox 360 titles and do not have additional achievements, and can be purchased from the Xbox website or played from a physical disc (break out your old libraries!). Want a list without the box art? There's one!

The Next Xbox Console/"Project Scarlett"

What is it? What are they? Details are still scarce, but signs point to proximal launches of two consoles to replace the current Xbox One consoles: a less expensive, lower-powered system that will be similar in performance to the current Xbox One X, and a more expensive, higher-powered system that will be the Xbox One X's performance successor. Whenever more details come, be sure I'll be adding them! In the meantime, Microsoft has consistently promised continuity with existing Xbox One libraries, possibly to extend to Xbox 360 and original Xbox libraries. Forwards compatibility between Xbox One and the next machines? They're not ruling that out either!

The Xbox E3 2019 Event

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeYQ-kPF0iQ

Individual Showcase Trailers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwZByksfC4s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ktN4bycj9s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYVw0KqQiOI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtgzKBrU1GY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IP_EPLfvSo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cASCytz8o9g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReDDgFfWlS4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lq-wlu2pwdw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAuEmR6EZB0

Penny Arcade Forums' Game Clubs

Pax Arcadia
Arcade Squad (Gears of War series)
The Bees Knees (Halo series)

Additionally, you can find the forums Xbox Live gamertag list here, and the form to sign up here.


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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    Oh damn, I had totally forgotten about Arcade Squad until I read the OP, and I made the bloody thing!

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    chamberlainchamberlain Registered User regular
    I got stuck between a chair and a wall in Metro Exodus and the game auto saved before I could load the last checkpoint. The last manual save is two hours old.

    Guess I'm done!

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    SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    edited February 2019
    Yeah, ironically I am not doing this from home (though I did get off my shitty work), so I ended up updating the OP a few times to actually be worth people's time.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    I got stuck between a chair and a wall in Metro Exodus and the game auto saved before I could load the last checkpoint. The last manual save is two hours old.

    Guess I'm done!

    Yeah Metro Exodus has an absolutely awful save system. And on the highest difficulty quick saving is disabled entirely. So you are at the mercy of check point saves. One streamer had to save another streamer by copying a good save to fix his fucked one. If you're on console you're just flat out fucked.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    baudattitudebaudattitude Registered User regular
    figther -> fighter in the thread title. :)

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    Shhh... I wanted to see how long it took him to realize.

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    Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    They spelled it differently back then, cut old man Synthy some slack

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    SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    figther -> fighter in the thread title. :)

    Hey, it's butter than VR!

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    BRIAN BLESSEDBRIAN BLESSED Maybe you aren't SPEAKING LOUDLY ENOUGHHH Registered User regular
    I always scrolled past that thread and was like "this is obviously a really silly typo but they have to know at this point and are leaving it as is on purpose"

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    baudattitudebaudattitude Registered User regular
    It's only a seven-year-old fighter at this point (I had to check and double check spelling before I continued typing), but I played through the DOA5LR story mode a couple days ago in preparation for DOA6. I'd played it before but couldn't remember anything other than there being yet another Kasumi clone hanging around, and I didn't realize it had a bunch of Ninja Gaiden references in it so that was neat.
    Also Hitomi totally should have won the tournament.

    Other takeaways: I think the AI for story mode is hard coded to counter every attempt at a throw, and I hate both playing as and playing against Brad Wong with a fiery passion.

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    It's only a seven-year-old fighter at this point (I had to check and double check spelling before I continued typing), but I played through the DOA5LR story mode a couple days ago in preparation for DOA6. I'd played it before but couldn't remember anything other than there being yet another Kasumi clone hanging around, and I didn't realize it had a bunch of Ninja Gaiden references in it so that was neat.
    Also Hitomi totally should have won the tournament.

    Other takeaways: I think the AI for story mode is hard coded to counter every attempt at a throw, and I hate both playing as and playing against Brad Wong with a fiery passion.

    We're gonna have fun this weekend.

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    baudattitudebaudattitude Registered User regular
    It's only a seven-year-old fighter at this point (I had to check and double check spelling before I continued typing), but I played through the DOA5LR story mode a couple days ago in preparation for DOA6. I'd played it before but couldn't remember anything other than there being yet another Kasumi clone hanging around, and I didn't realize it had a bunch of Ninja Gaiden references in it so that was neat.
    Also Hitomi totally should have won the tournament.

    Other takeaways: I think the AI for story mode is hard coded to counter every attempt at a throw, and I hate both playing as and playing against Brad Wong with a fiery passion.

    We're gonna have fun this weekend.

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    SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    That's going to make it into the thread title at some point.

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    LBD_NytetraynLBD_Nytetrayn TorontoRegistered User regular
    From last thread:
    I should play Ori while I have discounted Gamepass. It looks really pretty and I understand they patched it to be a little easier.

    Definitely. I love Ori, and think he should be the Xbox mascot.

    Hadn't heard about the patch, though.

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    shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    From last thread:
    I should play Ori while I have discounted Gamepass. It looks really pretty and I understand they patched it to be a little easier.

    Definitely. I love Ori, and think he should be the Xbox mascot.

    Hadn't heard about the patch, though.

    They're referring to the change to the director's cut I would think.

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    SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    Ori would make a good mascot...if we were still in the age of console mascots. It's a shame Ori and the Blind Forest wasn't around in the original Xbox's life cycle, when the console was looking for a mascot (and tried various things, most of which are long forgotten). The Master Chief basically became the unofficial mascot, but by then, I personally think the console mascot era came to an end. Crash was obviously the Playstation 1's mascot, but I don't think people were saying "Oh yeah, he's Playstation's mascot" the same way by the PS3's long life cycle. Mario is more of an exceptional case, but that's reflecting Nintendo's unique formula of retelling existing stories in new games (the Zelda effect)--plus, he's Mario, a juggernaut of the industry.

    Ori definitely belongs in a sort of "pantheon" of Xbox heroes and heroines, protagonists, or whatever you'd call them--along with the Master Chief, Cortana, the Arbiter, multiple "gears" from Gears of War, Cuphead and Mugman, Sam Fisher, and the survivor from Sunset Overdrive (just because that's such an excellent game). Maybe Ryu Hayabusa too, as his most famous modern incarnations are still very closely associated with Xbox, but as discussed in the last thread, Team Ninja basically killed Ninja Gaiden as a franchise very shortly after it went multiplatform, so maybe not anymore. It's hard to say if Ori is more deserving than all of those.

    Basically, these are the characters I'd "draft" if Microsoft suddenly decided Xbox needed its own version of Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale (probably don't call it that). Of course, considering how well that worked on Playstation--and how much stronger its historical line-up is then Xbox's--it'd probably be at least as big a mistake.

    Heh, I guess Microsoft could do what Sony did, and try and get a few characters who are barely associated with Xbox but technically on it. Noctis, 2B, Senua, Dante or Virgil from Devil May Cry. And a Big Daddy, why not?

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    Wraith260Wraith260 Happiest Goomba! Registered User regular
    edited February 2019
    the Lost Planet series is now backwards compatible.



    imagine there will be a few that are happy to hear this news.

    EDIT: RE Code: Veronica is also being added.

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    HardtargetHardtarget There Are Four Lights VancouverRegistered User regular
    Wraith260 wrote: »
    the Lost Planet series is now backwards compatible.



    imagine there will be a few that are happy to hear this news.

    EDIT: RE Code: Veronica is also being added.
    generous!

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    This is the first time I've heard of Lost Planet Colonies.

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    Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    I wonder if they ever found the planet

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    Wraith260Wraith260 Happiest Goomba! Registered User regular
    I wonder if they ever found the planet

    well they stopped making new games so...

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    I remember wanting to try the lost planet games and then just not. I can't remember why.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    HardtargetHardtarget There Are Four Lights VancouverRegistered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    I remember wanting to try the lost planet games and then just not. I can't remember why.

    the very first one was kinda neat. it had cool snow effects for the time.

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    NosfNosf Registered User regular
    edited February 2019
    1 and 2 were good, 3 was made by some other studio and was terrible, IIRC. Colonies was the online only MP game I think.

    edit: Colonies was the gold version of LP1, with extra maps and modes.

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    edited February 2019
    I think the Re2 remake has completely spoiled me on ever going back to the old style RE games.

    I just want them to remake 0, 1, 3 and CV in the RE Engine now.

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    SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    It's a really good engine! At least for interior spaces, though possibly more.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Everyone wants code veronica so we can get sweet sweet HD steve.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    JazzJazz Registered User regular
    It's only a seven-year-old fighter at this point (I had to check and double check spelling before I continued typing), but I played through the DOA5LR story mode a couple days ago in preparation for DOA6. I'd played it before but couldn't remember anything other than there being yet another Kasumi clone hanging around, and I didn't realize it had a bunch of Ninja Gaiden references in it so that was neat.
    Also Hitomi totally should have won the tournament.

    Other takeaways: I think the AI for story mode is hard coded to counter every attempt at a throw, and I hate both playing as and playing against Brad Wong with a fiery passion.

    We're gonna have fun this weekend.

    Random character rule in 3... 2...

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    baudattitudebaudattitude Registered User regular
    Synthesis wrote: »
    Ori would make a good mascot...if we were still in the age of console mascots. It's a shame Ori and the Blind Forest wasn't around in the original Xbox's life cycle, when the console was looking for a mascot (and tried various things, most of which are long forgotten). The Master Chief basically became the unofficial mascot, but by then, I personally think the console mascot era came to an end. Crash was obviously the Playstation 1's mascot, but I don't think people were saying "Oh yeah, he's Playstation's mascot" the same way by the PS3's long life cycle. Mario is more of an exceptional case, but that's reflecting Nintendo's unique formula of retelling existing stories in new games (the Zelda effect)--plus, he's Mario, a juggernaut of the industry.

    Ori definitely belongs in a sort of "pantheon" of Xbox heroes and heroines, protagonists, or whatever you'd call them--along with the Master Chief, Cortana, the Arbiter, multiple "gears" from Gears of War, Cuphead and Mugman, Sam Fisher, and the survivor from Sunset Overdrive (just because that's such an excellent game). Maybe Ryu Hayabusa too, as his most famous modern incarnations are still very closely associated with Xbox, but as discussed in the last thread, Team Ninja basically killed Ninja Gaiden as a franchise very shortly after it went multiplatform, so maybe not anymore. It's hard to say if Ori is more deserving than all of those.

    Basically, these are the characters I'd "draft" if Microsoft suddenly decided Xbox needed its own version of Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale (probably don't call it that). Of course, considering how well that worked on Playstation--and how much stronger its historical line-up is then Xbox's--it'd probably be at least as big a mistake.

    Heh, I guess Microsoft could do what Sony did, and try and get a few characters who are barely associated with Xbox but technically on it. Noctis, 2B, Senua, Dante or Virgil from Devil May Cry. And a Big Daddy, why not?

    Pay KT some money to make an Xbox Warriors game like Warriors All-Stars and my $60 is theirs. Go all in on long-forgotten Xbox games. I'm talking Blinx the Time Sweeper, the lizard guy from Brute Force, someone from Armed and Dangerous, just go through all of the C- and D- listers, mash them up with a paper thin story about mixing dimensions or something and put it on a disc.


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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    They should bring back Banjo-Kazooie.

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    cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    Is there a Rare team working on something else besides Sea of Thieves and avatars? Surely they must be. And now that Microsoft's desire for "games as a service" seems to be dying down, maybe that means they'll finally let Rare be Rare?

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Is there a Rare team working on something else besides Sea of Thieves and avatars? Surely they must be. And now that Microsoft's desire for "games as a service" seems to be dying down, maybe that means they'll finally let Rare be Rare?

    Sea of Theives was apparently Rare being Rare.

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    BRIAN BLESSEDBRIAN BLESSED Maybe you aren't SPEAKING LOUDLY ENOUGHHH Registered User regular
    Still praying for a third-person Casino-Royale style reboot of Perfect Dark

    (Honestly given Game Pass' success I can only see their thirst for GaaS getting stronger)

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    JazzJazz Registered User regular
    edited February 2019
    Synthesis wrote: »
    Ori would make a good mascot...if we were still in the age of console mascots. It's a shame Ori and the Blind Forest wasn't around in the original Xbox's life cycle, when the console was looking for a mascot (and tried various things, most of which are long forgotten). The Master Chief basically became the unofficial mascot, but by then, I personally think the console mascot era came to an end. Crash was obviously the Playstation 1's mascot, but I don't think people were saying "Oh yeah, he's Playstation's mascot" the same way by the PS3's long life cycle. Mario is more of an exceptional case, but that's reflecting Nintendo's unique formula of retelling existing stories in new games (the Zelda effect)--plus, he's Mario, a juggernaut of the industry.

    Ori definitely belongs in a sort of "pantheon" of Xbox heroes and heroines, protagonists, or whatever you'd call them--along with the Master Chief, Cortana, the Arbiter, multiple "gears" from Gears of War, Cuphead and Mugman, Sam Fisher, and the survivor from Sunset Overdrive (just because that's such an excellent game). Maybe Ryu Hayabusa too, as his most famous modern incarnations are still very closely associated with Xbox, but as discussed in the last thread, Team Ninja basically killed Ninja Gaiden as a franchise very shortly after it went multiplatform, so maybe not anymore. It's hard to say if Ori is more deserving than all of those.

    Basically, these are the characters I'd "draft" if Microsoft suddenly decided Xbox needed its own version of Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale (probably don't call it that). Of course, considering how well that worked on Playstation--and how much stronger its historical line-up is then Xbox's--it'd probably be at least as big a mistake.

    Heh, I guess Microsoft could do what Sony did, and try and get a few characters who are barely associated with Xbox but technically on it. Noctis, 2B, Senua, Dante or Virgil from Devil May Cry. And a Big Daddy, why not?

    Pay KT some money to make an Xbox Warriors game like Warriors All-Stars and my $60 is theirs. Go all in on long-forgotten Xbox games. I'm talking Blinx the Time Sweeper, the lizard guy from Brute Force, someone from Armed and Dangerous, just go through all of the C- and D- listers, mash them up with a paper thin story about mixing dimensions or something and put it on a disc.

    AZURIK

    vs

    KELLY OUT OF GUNVALKYRIE

    Ready? Fight!

    (In all seriousness, I'd play the hell out of that.)

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Isn't Rare also making a new battletoads at some point?

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    edited February 2019
    Preacher wrote: »
    Isn't Rare also making a new battletoads at some point?

    It's primarily being made by a company called DLaLa Studios.

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    tastydonutstastydonuts Registered User regular
    Lost Planet going BC is awesome.

    Lost Planet 2 having global leaderboards that never reset and are nigh impossible to crack for but being tied to several titles, accolades and achievements? lol.

    LP 3 was fun too.

    Colonies is just fancy Lost Planet 1.

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    cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    Isn't Rare also making a new battletoads at some point?

    It's primarily being made by a company called DLaLa Studios.

    So who the hell knows if it'll be any good.

    Props to Microsoft for actually doing something with the IP, though.

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    PeenPeen Registered User regular
    I have no idea what a new Battletoads game is in 2019 or beyond.

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    Probably a throw-back beat'em up with modern difficulty options.

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