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Lord DaveLord Dave Registered User regular
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HELLO WE ARE HORDE on Cho'gall!
<Shambler Milk> is the place to come if you'd like to murder Alliance wieners with SE++ers.

Instructions for joining:

1) Create a character on Cho'gall
2) /who Shambler Milk
3) Ask someone for a guild invite
4) Friends and family are welcome

Get an Authenticator you damn weiners
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Required Mods:

MilkGlass!

...that's it.

Oh, and this one:


And seriously, get BigWigs or DBM, Jesus Christ

Raid Schedule:

Tuesday Tuesday Tuesday (and Thursday)
All weekday raids remain at 8PM server/9PM EST/6PM PDT
(6PM server weekends)

Suggested Reading:

How to not be that guy in groups. Don't be that guy.

WoW Terminology. If you find yourself confused by the language of WoW, this is a good place to start.
How to Shamble in the Clysm

You like raids, yes? Well we got raids. Here are a few things that you need to do if you want to Shamble Raid.
  1. Download and install MilkGlass!
  2. Download and install Ventrilo. You don't need to have a mic, but you do need to be able to, and know how to listen.
  3. Download an up to date version of Deadly Boss Mods.
  4. Know your class. The Elitist Jerks Forums generally have good information for every class, so give some of their information a read through. You can also ask in guild and people will try to help.
  5. Have your gear properly gemmed and enchanted. Yes this costs gold. Tough shit, do it anyway. Don't be a Moopac.
  6. Be able to pay attention and think/act/react on your own.
  7. Have (at least) a rudimentary knowledge of the encounters in which you are about to partake.
Hey dudes I made a little UI guide thing for you bros that keep asking to help with yours. Uis are pretty personal things, no two Uis will be the same but I kinda want this to be like a starting point for you bros to get your Uis going.
Addons I use.

Bagnon
Button Facade
Chatter
Classtimer
Clique
Docsdebugrunes
Dominos
Doom Cooldown Pulse
Elkanos buff bars
Grid
Miks scrolling battle text
Obituary
Omen3
OmniCC
Quartz
Recount
SexyMap
SLData text
Tidy Plates
Tidy Plates: Threat plates
Tooltip on mouse
Xperl
DBM

Addons you better use if you're not a Feeg

Milkglass (its for butts)

Thats a good number off Addons I suppose, if you don't feel comfortable using all those at the same time or don't think you need to uses some of them thats fine. Start slow, Changing your entire UI in a day can take some getting used to so if you just want to ease yourself in then by all means be a babbie.

HOW I MINE FOR ADDON?!?!

Here I'll tell you how I set up my various Addons just as kind of a reference, If you don't like the way I Set my stuff you can change it to your liking or send a complaint to mirren. I'll also put picture I guess.

Bagnon: just Set it and forget it. It also lets you see whats in the bags of all your characters just by selecting the little portrait of yourself in the corner and switching to another toon.
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Button Facade: Add a border to your buttons. Make it so you do have a border. Do what ever you feel is right with your bars. No real set up need, just find the button facade menu in your addons panel and choose which on you want
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ClassTimer: I love classtimer, not only does it show any buff or debuff you want on your target, it also does the same for you, your pet, and your focus! I set mine to be just above my bars, and make them stack up in stead of down. To add buffs or debuffs to tracking just go into timers-->extra--> then add the spell you want.
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Clique: lets you easily bind stuff to keys or key combos or mouse buttons or key and mouse button combos. The possibilities are endless! Setting your binds is straight forward and clique even has a little tutorial.

Docsdebugrunes: awesome for Dks compact addon that tell you all you need to know bout DK stuff like rune cooldowns duration of the infusion buff on your ghoul, size of the next blood shield if you choose to deathstrike after a hit. Its awesome

Dominos: I love dominos, perhaps my favorite addon, you can do pretty much anything you can think of with your bars and its easy to use.
Here is my set up You might not like they way I have my bars set but this is just an example.

Action Bar 1
Size: 12
Column: 6
Spacing: 13
Padding: 3
Scale: 122

Action Bar 2
Same as above

Action Bar 3
Size: 6
Columns: 6
Spacing: 30
Padding: 1
Scale: 77

Action Bar 4
Same as 3

Bar: 5
Size: 12
Columns: 12
Spacing:4
Padding: 2
Scale:86

Bars 6-10 are unused for but you can do with them what you will
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These are numbers are scaled to my monitor so they might be a little different then what you desire but you can fiddle with them till they are right.

Elkanos Buff Bars: My preferred replacement for the blizzard buff icon. Pretty straightforward set up. Just drag it yo where ever you desire, you can add or remove buffs that you want to track through the options menu
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Grid: Grid is awesome, I use it as a party/raid frames replacement but its also invaluable for telling who has aggro, who's dying, Who's dead, incoming heals, who has what debuff and a bunch of other junk. Setting up grid is an adventure in and of itself but thats more for healers and I assume they already know what to do. The base version of Grid works just fine as a party/raidframe. Set up can be a bit daunting just because of the sheer number of menus and sub menus but its pretty simple to set up once you get past them.
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Omen3: Aggro meter. Useful for tanks and DPS who don't want to pull aggro and die like chumps (Revash). Pretty much set and forget unless you want to tweak the visuals. I personally have it set to transparent along with recount.

Recount: Dps meter to show how bad you are, why are you so bad, do 2k more dps.
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SexyMap: Map mod lets you put all kinds of pretty borders and shit around your map. Also allows you to move it away from the top corner postion. I use the simple square preset because I don't like a lot of bullshit around my map. Maps are serious goddamn business and anyone who tells you otherwise is a communist sympathizer
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SLData Text: This is a replacement for the regular menu bar, the one that shows your latency and all that other junk you hardly ever look at. To get to the config for this you have to type /sldt.
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Tidy Plates and Tidy Plates: Threat Plates: the semicoloning pt 2 race to shoe mountain: Name plate mod that rules. They aren't as useless as the blizzard ones. They show who has aggro on what how much aggro, cast bars and other life saving tips.

ToolTip on mouse: it puts the tool tips on your cursor.

Deadly boss mods: Derp

Xperl: A UnitFrame mod that lets you change and move all the unit frames ever. I have mine set to not show party or raid frames because I use Grid for that. To navigate to the config menu just type /xperl and away you go.
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Once you set up all your addons and stuff you might have a cool UI like this or a horrible abomination, Who knows?
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If I missed something let me know, or if you need help or something.


Guild Roster

The Officers:

Lord Dave - Mirren - Mage - Queen of the Guild
EclipsedPlanet - Montina - Paladin - Consort
Ranlin - Alendra - Druid - Weh Wemh
Radius - Kyira - Rogue - Hates you
Metacortex - Nobarg - Warrior - Grabby
Javen - Javen - Rogue
Lock Robster! - Eits - Druid
Rhylith - Rhylith - Shaman
Ruer - Mintaka - Warrior
Dely Apple - Pipette - Hunter - 106.3, Radio KDLY
Bogey - ******** - Paladin

Master of Feegs:
Nikolai - Higgins - Butt

The Plebeians:

Dys - Dystopian - Shaman
captaink - Knut - Shaman
Balefuego - Baledar - Shaman
Opalcat - Pittpolecat - Warlock
SA - Revash - Warlock
Bucketman - Skragg - Warrior
Belruel - Belruen - Priest
Laurrie - Aladorn - Death Knight
Gatsby - Jerne - Hunter
Naphtali - Naphtali - Priest
Mitten - Cless - Priest
GRMike - Borrock - Paladin
Sarukun - Kerokoa - Druid
Bytoady - Toadles - Warrior
The Geebs that is a Mod - Vonne - Priest
Slow - Nsfw - Rogue
Langly - Cuthburt - Paladin
Animal Companion - Xenomortis - Rogue
Cilla Black - Urdahlia - Priest
Zucchini - Zucchini - Druid
Blankspace - Blankasaurus - Hunter
Manifest - Manif - Paladin
Callius - Callius - Paladin
Wubblewoo - Wubblewoo - Paladin
Ranx - Vamrithis - Priest
Shabooty - Ooty - Druid
Aphostile - Ephostile - Druid
Tsplitter - Rasmius - Warrior
Swill - Swills - Paladin
Deaconblues - Normanus - Priest
Shadowthomas - Xangia - Paladin
Scosglen - Barnago - Warlock
End - Zaraleiriria - Warlock
Uriel - Rotshank - Rogue
Yukira - Leliana - Paladin

The Babbies:

That Dave Fella - Dafella - Shaman
Vargas Prime - Vhargas - Paladin
Fearghaill - Euryale - Warlock
Andrew Ryan - Dryan - Death Knight
The Stig - Ursine - Druid
Stale - Stizz - Warrior
Asmodei - Fahren - Warlock
Baywatch - Crossbuster - Rogue
Professor Snugglesworth - Jordinand - Druid
Quoth - Lydda - Hunter
SabreMau - Charvanek - Paladin
SLyM - Davl - Druid
Munkus Beaver - Munkus - Druid
I Win Swordfights! - Korovan - Paladin
??? - Snrub - Druid
Sara Lynn - Odella - Rogue
joshua1numbers - Trollishness - Druid
Isoldae - Isomon - Warlock
Modedieu: 70's Shaman

Along with all the friends and families of Shamblers.

MISSING:

Derrick - ??? - ???

Shamblers of Yore:

Meissnerd - Stop healing him
makershot - Rubenesque - Shaman
Drool - Remmos - Baby with a beard
WhiskeyBiznass - Gwency - Rogue
Omegasquash - Omegasquash - Paladin
Fallout - TOMCRUISE - DK
Frylockholmes - Valikriss - Warrior
Aburnflags - Vilmon - Paladin
Preachermeat - Krythlynn - Paladin
Joah - Chatturgha - Shaman
Linksville - Franksville - Druid
Kusuguttai - Kusu - Warlock
futility - Shekhina - Hunter
SkankPlaya - Vaklempt - Warlock
Fandyien - Fandyien - Priest
World as Myth - Yosephine - Rogue
Captain Cthulu - Naporeon - Paladin
Neville - Nevga - DK
SithDrummer - Arkjin - Hunter
Hoodie - Avataar - Hunter
Aslan - Pysek - Mage
Owenashi - Kaziel - Warrior
Backwards - Sdraw - Mage
Centipede - Ravkaras - warlock
Roahgnar - Anjin-San - Warrior
Jes is a - jessaissa - Mage

If you aren't on the list it's because I don't like you / haven't updated the list since ~2009

Are you new? Check some of this stuff out so you won't be awful.
Curse Gaming: World of Warcraft mod depository. If it's a WoW mod it's probably here.

Wowhead: The best database for WoW hands-down.

MMO-Champion: The go-to site for patch and PTR news.

WoW Insider: The Kotaku of WoW. Slower news than everyone else, and a lot of crappy articles, but occasionally a rare gem.

Elitist Jerks Forums: Wondering whether haste or crit is better for you? EJ has had their results on that published in scientific journals.

Pet Collectors: Compendium for vanity pets. What pets exist, and how to get them.

Pettopia: Compendium for hunter pets. What pets exist, and how to get them

Mount Up!: Compendium for mounts. What riding pets exist and how to get them.

Wow Wiki: The largest known database of WoW lore outside of Owenashi geocities page.

Goodbye Northrend, we will miss your icy mountains majesty above the zombied plains
I totally updated the thread, prove I didn’t, eat a butt complainers!

Denny's is for winners.
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  • Lord DaveLord Dave Registered User regular
    Well I finally updated the OP

    Denny's is for winners.
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  • RanlinRanlin Oh gosh Registered User regular
    Geth, lock the thread.

  • Coconut MonkeyCoconut Monkey Registered User regular
    edited March 21
    Good job. Blizzard (actually) updated stuff too - bolstering! Fun facts, the following adds no longer bolster things:
    • Freehold mini rats
    • Shrine droplets
    • Shrine skeletons after council bosses
    • Waycrest maggots
    KR zullies, UR ticks, and ML mines still bolster like the fuckers they are.

    Coconut Monkey on
  • ZenyatooZenyatoo Registered User regular
    Wintergrasp is on the epic bg list now and I decided I completely hate it.

    Winning on defense takes like 40 minutes even if you knock down all 3 south towers. It's like a worse version of IoC.

    BucketmanT4CT
  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Wintergrasp was a nightmare even back in the day.

    It was fun for a very brief period of time.

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  • ZenyatooZenyatoo Registered User regular
    Wintergrasp was a nightmare even back in the day.

    It was fun for a very brief period of time.

    I've decided the reasons I hate it in order

    1. Defense wins take forever even if you're stomping
    2. Defending is really really easy???
    3. No way to quickly tell at a glance whose siege is where. Would it have been so hard to color code them rather than making all siege grey on the map
    4. Capturing locations is entirely a factor of # of people. You dont have to interact with the flag or even kill the enemy team. Just show up with more people and you automatically win. This goes against everything I like about bg's.
    5. Siege stuff is really strong at the moment, catapults in particular completely lock down an area with their huge blight damage and flamethrowers
    6. Addendum to 5: defense automatically gets 8 catapults that you can only get rid of if you're ass-deep inside their base already which means youve already won the game so its pointless to do so.
    7. There are no reinforcements for either team which means the winning strategy is to throw yourself bodily at the enemy siege over and over without any thought or concern because if they have no siege they lose and you cant cost your team the game with your 25 deaths

    I'd love if they nerfed siege, made it easier to tell who had what, changed the flags to be like every other BG location, and then probably made defending harder.

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 21
    The thing about #4 is that that was their answer to the bullshit AV day long battles where nobody could finish capping a flag because everyone was AOEing it. I am pretty sure they reused that mechanic for IoC.

    Defending became nearly impossible to do / wasn't worth it by the end of wrath.

    And no it's not a great design. There's a reason why they discontinued the Strand of the Ancients BG, that whole siege engine to the base mechanic is a load of horseshit.

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  • ZenyatooZenyatoo Registered User regular
    The thing about #4 is that that was their answer to the bullshit AV day long battles where nobody could finish capping a flag because everyone was AOEing it. I am pretty sure they reused that mechanic for IoC.

    Defending became nearly impossible to do / wasn't worth it by the end of wrath.

    And no it's not a great design. There's a reason why they discontinued the Strand of the Ancients BG, that whole siege engine to the base mechanic is a load of horseshit.

    Nah IoC has actual flags you gotta interact with. Though, that might not have always been a thing. Which means strategies like sending a small group to delay the entire enemy team going for hangar is viable (and fun). It's actually one of my favorite things, because I play a tank, and a paladin at that, I can often deny an enemy team a flag capture for a very long time even when outnumbered greatly. I think its the best possible use of time for a tank in most BG's actually. They're amazing at calling incs and defending flags from 5+ people until help arrives. Wintergrasp denies me this opportunity because if im outnumbered im automatically losing the base. :(

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    It has been years since I willingly went into IoC but I played enough dumb games on that dumb map to get the tabard, and I seem to recall it being a "number of people" mechanic like Wintergrasp and Eye of the Storm.

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  • ZenyatooZenyatoo Registered User regular
    It has been years since I willingly went into IoC but I played enough dumb games on that dumb map to get the tabard, and I seem to recall it being a "number of people" mechanic like Wintergrasp and Eye of the Storm.

    They may have changed it then, because its definitely flags now.

    Interestingly, eye of the storm is still # of players, BUT, if you do it as a rated BG it has flags that need to be interacted with instead. I think this makes it the only BG whose objectives change when you go from random to rated?

  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited March 21
    deep [email protected]

    looks like they're doing a free weekend thing, along with a sale on BFA. I wonder if the sub numbers are really dire.

    BahamutZERO on
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  • MarathonMarathon Registered User regular
    deep sigh

    looks like they're doing a free weekend thing, along with a sale on BFA. I wonder if the sub numbers are really dire.

    Eh, I don’t think it’s as much of a case that sub numbers being low. They probably realized, like any good drug dealer, that if you give people a free taste a few are going to bite.

    BucketmanSmrtnik
  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Realtor Santa ClaritaRegistered User regular
    deep sigh

    looks like they're doing a free weekend thing, along with a sale on BFA. I wonder if the sub numbers are really dire.

    I think since companies have been doing "free weekends" on Steam the common consensus is that they are A Good Thing. This decision doesn't mean the sky is falling, don't be a WoW official forums poster.

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  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    Overwatch has had tons of free weekends, even when it was in its prime

  • ZayZay yes i am zay Registered User regular
    It’s probably a smart move considering they just had a few big patches, might get people who wrote off bfa to check it out again. There’ll probably be another after 8.2 or 8.2.5 I bet

    BucketmanTynnanMarathonT4CTH3Knuckles
  • MarathonMarathon Registered User regular
    Q&A going on today, good news so far is that they will add a Caverns of Time portal to the portal rooms in the next update.

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  • ZayZay yes i am zay Registered User regular
    Hide Chest tmog option coming

    I hope there’s a hide gloves too

    T4CT
  • BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    They are adding a hide chest Transmog option!

  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    note deep sigh was at mirren's OP not at the free weekend

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  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Realtor Santa ClaritaRegistered User regular
    note deep sigh was at mirren's OP not at the free weekend

    Way to try to cover your tracks, Chicken Little, drama llama.

    BahamutZERO
  • BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    "They're looking at transmog rules more broadly and loosen some of the old restrictions. There's some weird interactions that currently still exist"

    If they let me be fury with 1 handers transmogged I will never look back. NEVER

  • The Cow KingThe Cow King Walls of Jakiro Registered User regular
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    deep sigh

    looks like they're doing a free weekend thing, along with a sale on BFA. I wonder if the sub numbers are really dire.

    I think since companies have been doing "free weekends" on Steam the common consensus is that they are A Good Thing. This decision doesn't mean the sky is falling, don't be a WoW official forums poster.

    Love watching the wow arenas every week and its 25k people watching and chat spamming how dead the game is

    I have too much free time why would you spend it like that

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  • MarathonMarathon Registered User regular
    edited March 21
    They were also talking about leveling being a pain in the ass. Which is good, because it is.

    They will probably just do another level squish, but I was thinking about it and I think they could work things out to let you level faster, but also make it slightly worthwhile.

    I’d like to see them string together a bunch of quests, using as many existing quests as possible, that would more or less tell the main story of a particular expansion and through it or just at the end of the chain just spit you out of that zone at the necessary level to move on to the next expansion.

    That way they could gate it to however much time they want and players would get some taste of the whole expansion, but also move through the leveling process at an enjoyable pace.

    They could still leave all the old quests in, that way people who like to grind things out and experience every story point in a zone still could.

    Marathon on
  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    I can understand being cautious with a level squish, and being worried that a substantial number of players will not take kindly to going from level 120 to level 60

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  • KwoaruKwoaru Registered User regular
    I'm looking forward to playing again for the free weekend, the class trials thing sounds fun

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  • BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    I don't know if I'm gonna be in raid tonight, I'm at the vet for a bunny emergency. Hopefully it's nothing.

  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    I will be there but late.

  • TynnanTynnan seldom correct, never unsure Registered User regular
    I'm on an island. Go beat up Jaina and take her lunch money.

    Take Nathanos's, too, while you're at it.

    BucketmanT4CT
  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Realtor Santa ClaritaRegistered User regular
    Tynnan wrote: »
    I'm on an island. Go beat up Jaina and take her lunch money.

    Take Nathanos's, too, while you're at it.

    On the ferry ride back, make sure you listen to I'm on a Boat by Lonely Island. I'm sure the ferry crew would appreciate it if you played it very loudly as I'm sure they've never heard it.

    TynnanBucketman
  • BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    Bonus bunny pic
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  • RanlinRanlin Oh gosh Registered User regular
    Fluffy bunbun!

    Bucketman
  • BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    He has a (thankfully minor) ear infection but we caught it early so its drops twice a day for the next two weeks for him

  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    thanks for dragging my dead weight ass through jaina y'all

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  • BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    Oh you guys downed her? Damn it I still need to be in for a kill

  • ZayZay yes i am zay Registered User regular
    There's only so much Nero we can handle

    T4CT
  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    I can sit out now that I have AOTC if you want

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  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    I still need a mekkatorque and blockade kill but honestly after that I dunno how many full clears I have left before the new tiny raid comes out

  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    we have everything but the last two bosses down to one-shots at least

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  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    I'd like to get everyone their AOTC, but past that I'd rather focus on getting the +15 feat of strength

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  • T4CTT4CT BAFTA-NOMINATED NAFTA-APPROVEDRegistered User regular
    I need jaina baby

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