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[Hades] is King of the Scythe and the Sword

StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice,To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
edited May 23 in Singularity Engine++
He covers the world in the color of rust, he scrapes the sky and scars the earth, and he comes down heavy and hard on us.

But especially on you, Zagreus. You're his rebellious teenage son, and you're going to get out of the underworld even if it kills you. Again and again and again.

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Hades is the new game from Supergiant games, who made a bunch of other games that are also good. It's a roguelike action sort of affair, and is currently available in early access on the Epic Store. It's a lot of fun, even in its technically incomplete state, and we've been talking about it a lot, so now we've got a thread to do that in.

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  • ShortyShorty JUDGE BROSEF Registered User regular
    chaos shield is best

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    I was legit hoping that Shorty was somehow mistaken and the world wasn't that fucked
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  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    I like the barrage upgrade on the bow with the artemis boon that makes it crit a ton.

    Just walk up on the enemy and shotgun their ass.

  • StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    The bow is my favorite, although I like the spear and the shield as well. I will largely use both the spear and the shield at range though, which makes me think that maybe I should just be using the bow.

    The only downside to the bow is that it means I'm constantly forgetting to use my blood cast unless I have it turned into something weird. My current favorite combo is to get the Aphrodite boon for it, so that it becomes a short range attack as a counterpoint to my bow.

  • ShortyShorty JUDGE BROSEF Registered User regular
    Aphrodite's cast boon turns your cast into a GIANT shotgun

    Tube wrote: »
    I was legit hoping that Shorty was somehow mistaken and the world wasn't that fucked
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  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    edited May 23
    The boiling blood plus extra bloodstones in the mirror is really strong.

    Boiling blood maxes at 50% and that'll stack with each stone.

    Uriel on
  • StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    Oh also everyone listen to Hadestown, obviously



    It actually plays with a similarly bureaucratic depiction of Hades as this game does, even if the tone is wildly different in every other respect

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  • TofystedethTofystedeth veni, veneri, vamoosi Registered User regular
    For the bonuses that give +% to rare or better, i assume that's additive not multiplicative?

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  • Emerlmaster999Emerlmaster999 Registered User regular
    Cerberus is a very good boy.

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  • StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    One of my favorite bonkers builds was entirely cast based. I think I was using the shield, but it doesn't really matter.

    I made it up to I think seven or eight casts, which were Poseidon blessed to deal a decent amount of damage. But the real trick was that Artemis had made it so they fell out after a mere 5 seconds, and when they did, they did an additional 300 damage in the process.

    So my entire strategy was based around flinging out all of my casts, dodging around the battlefield for a few seconds, and then going to collect them while enemies respawned.

    It was an extremely weird strategy, but it got me all the way to Theseus.

  • FearghaillFearghaill If there is nothing but what we make in this world let us make goodRegistered User regular
    I was excited to see this thread because I just got a new PC a week and a half ago, and picked this up in the Epic sale and it is seriously impacting my sleep this week (one more run...)

    and then you open it with a Hadestown quote?

    Hell yes.

  • StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    My friends and I were obsessed with Hadestown in college. It was constantly playing the the theatre where we worked, we went out to see an early live performance of it, and so on. We got very close to staging our own bootleg production of it, long before it was turned into a stage play.

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  • FearghaillFearghaill If there is nothing but what we make in this world let us make goodRegistered User regular
    Anyways, I'm consistently making it to the second realm on runs now, and have made it to the third a couple times

    second realm boss spoilers
    the Lernaean Hydra is an asshole

    So far my favourite builds are Shield or Bow with a Dionysus boon on their special to put Sick damage over Time on many enemies at once

    though I had a Spear run last night with Zeus adding lightning to the throws and Artemis boosting Special damage and crit chance that put in serious work

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  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    I've not yet been able to get past whatever the second area is

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited May 23
    Straightzi wrote: »
    My friends and I were obsessed with Hadestown in college. It was constantly playing the the theatre where we worked, we went out to see an early live performance of it, and so on. We got very close to staging our own bootleg production of it, long before it was turned into a stage play.


    I missed out on the original live show when it was touring

    i'm very excited for the musical to come to my town

    Brolo on
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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular


    although this is the voice that I really want for orpheus

  • FearghaillFearghaill If there is nothing but what we make in this world let us make goodRegistered User regular
    Straightzi wrote: »
    My friends and I were obsessed with Hadestown in college. It was constantly playing the the theatre where we worked, we went out to see an early live performance of it, and so on. We got very close to staging our own bootleg production of it, long before it was turned into a stage play.

    in at least two Holiday Forum opinion threads over the years I've had people say that their main recollection of me is "person that introduced them to Hadestown" and there are worse things to be remembered for

    For anyone listening to Hadestown for the first time as a result of this thread, I highly suggest headphones

    they do some harmony stuff with a set of triplets on one song that is such a cool effect in full stereo

  • PhasenPhasen Let's Disrupt the 2020 ElectionRegistered User regular
    I beat this game.

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  • TofystedethTofystedeth veni, veneri, vamoosi Registered User regular
    15 seconds into Hadestown.
    Yeah okay, I'm sold.

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  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Shit... I need to get this game.

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  • ShortyShorty JUDGE BROSEF Registered User regular
    it's one of the better roguelikes I've played recently

    reminds me of Wizard of Legend, with better thematic integration

    Tube wrote: »
    I was legit hoping that Shorty was somehow mistaken and the world wasn't that fucked
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  • AnzekayAnzekay Registered User regular
    this game isn't even finished and it's already my favourite Supergiant game

    also I want to make out with Zag

    and probably Meg

    that is all

    (the shield is the best)

  • ShortyShorty JUDGE BROSEF Registered User regular
    so far I think Pyre is probably still in the lead because in that game I got to be a revolutionary, and also Jodariel was there

    but this is definitely on the same level as Bastion so far

    Tube wrote: »
    I was legit hoping that Shorty was somehow mistaken and the world wasn't that fucked
  • StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    Anzekay wrote: »
    this game isn't even finished and it's already my favourite Supergiant game

    also I want to make out with Zag

    and probably Meg

    that is all

    (the shield is the best)

    I thought for a brief moment after I first met Thanatos that they were making Zagreus bisexual, but that doesn't seem to have held up since then

  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Shorty wrote: »
    it's one of the better roguelikes I've played recently

    reminds me of Wizard of Legend, with better thematic integration

    yeah for some reason Wizard of Legend just left me kinda cold

    I feel like supergiant is really good at filling in their games with little bits of charm and personality, and this game is doing a great job with that, even in Early Access

  • PhasenPhasen Let's Disrupt the 2020 ElectionRegistered User regular
    I just beat it again.

    psn: PhasenWeeple
  • AnzekayAnzekay Registered User regular
    Straightzi wrote: »
    Anzekay wrote: »
    this game isn't even finished and it's already my favourite Supergiant game

    also I want to make out with Zag

    and probably Meg

    that is all

    (the shield is the best)

    I thought for a brief moment after I first met Thanatos that they were making Zagreus bisexual, but that doesn't seem to have held up since then

    oh he definitely is
    if you give Achilles enough gifts, Zag basically propositions him. Achilles turns him down, and Zag is very gracious about it, and they talk about Achilles still not being over Patrocles

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  • PhasenPhasen Let's Disrupt the 2020 ElectionRegistered User regular
    Anzekay wrote: »
    Straightzi wrote: »
    Anzekay wrote: »
    this game isn't even finished and it's already my favourite Supergiant game

    also I want to make out with Zag

    and probably Meg

    that is all

    (the shield is the best)

    I thought for a brief moment after I first met Thanatos that they were making Zagreus bisexual, but that doesn't seem to have held up since then

    oh he definitely is
    if you give Achilles enough gifts, Zag basically propositions him. Achilles turns him down, and Zag is very gracious about it, and they talk about Achilles still not being over Patrocles

    Deciding to mainline Achilles is going to finally pay off.

    psn: PhasenWeeple
  • AnzekayAnzekay Registered User regular
    it's an extremely cute and touching conversation, I really like what they've done with that NPC

  • DelzhandDelzhand Hard to miss. Registered User regular
    I've gotten to Theseus and the Minotaur three times now and they've cleaned my fucking clock each time. I've got no idea other than my normal roguelike strategy of "pray for a really synergystic set of upgrades".

    But I felt all "this is impossible" for the Hydra, too, and now I clear it on the reg.

    The shield guys in Elysium can suck a fuck.

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  • TofystedethTofystedeth veni, veneri, vamoosi Registered User regular
    How do you get the friendship levels that are locked?

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    Real excited for when this hits a console

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  • AnzekayAnzekay Registered User regular
    How do you get the friendship levels that are locked?

    they're incomplete, they'll be unlocked as the game gets more and more updates

  • StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    I had most everyone up to max unlocked friendship level for a while before updates, but they've changed some things and I think I'm back to just base level at this point. I'll need to renew my efforts there, apparently.

  • PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    I have three wins so far and all of them have been with the shield and Artemis boons for crit chance.

    I'm not even sticking to the shield. I pick whichever weapon has the dark thirst.

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  • FearghaillFearghaill If there is nothing but what we make in this world let us make goodRegistered User regular
    edited May 23
    We've discussed favourite weapons, but who's everyone's favourite god to get Boons from? Obviously this is going to vary a bit from weapon to weapon but in an ideal run, whose symbol are you want to see the moment you jump out the window?

    For me it's Dionysus. Stacking DOTs and dodging around while enemies die is a solid strategy with multiple weapon choices. The sword is about the only one it isn't as good with, in that case I want Athena so I can baseball bat projectiles

    Fearghaill on
  • FearghaillFearghaill If there is nothing but what we make in this world let us make goodRegistered User regular
    Peewi wrote: »
    I have three wins so far and all of them have been with the shield and Artemis boons for crit chance.

    I'm not even sticking to the shield. I pick whichever weapon has the dark thirst.

    Same here, and I haven't started using the keepsakes that guarantee a particular god for your next/first Boon. I'm loving the variety of trying a different setup every time.

  • ShortyShorty JUDGE BROSEF Registered User regular
    so far I've had the best results with Zeus, Dionysus and Artemis

    everyone else is kind of a mixed bag

    Tube wrote: »
    I was legit hoping that Shorty was somehow mistaken and the world wasn't that fucked
  • StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    Artemis is probably my most consistent favorite

    Everyone else is deeply dependant on the weapon and boon in question

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  • PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    I'll go for Aphrodite almost any time I can just for a chance of getting the shotgun cast.

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  • FearghaillFearghaill If there is nothing but what we make in this world let us make goodRegistered User regular
    oh also the Artemis cast upgrade where enemies take 200 damage when the cast dislodges?

    fucking amazing against bosses

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