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[Zodiac Phalla] Monday the 8th: The Taste of Victory [Larg Victory!]

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  • Buzz BuzzBuzz Buzz Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Sorry Hakkekage, only humans and beasts in FFT. That doesn't mean you can't be a Viera though, but then you're bringing race politics in and honestly, we're having enough of a political crisis as it is here...

    Next we'll have to give the Moogles the vote... :P

    Buzz Buzz on
  • TehSpectreTehSpectre Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Buzz Buzz wrote: »
    Sorry Hakkekage, only humans and beasts in FFT. That doesn't mean you can't be a Viera though, but then you're bringing race politics in and honestly, we're having enough of a political crisis as it is here...

    Next we'll have to give the Moogles the vote... :P
    Rascist!

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  • ArdorArdor Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    TehSpectre wrote: »
    True Ardor, but I am just trying to find a way to stay alive past day one. I have shown an...affinity, for being able to find specials/badguys, so I figured someone would want that little skill of mine.

    I would imagine it's mostly called luck, which is something we all have from time to time.

    I wipe the slate clean when I play these games so as not to carry vengeance or other thoughts etc over to the games.

    Plenty of people in this player list can perform just as well as you can when given the chance, hence wraith, vigilante etc. Not everyone's had that chance. To bank our hopes on a single person seems very silly at this point in the game.

    You might be better off giving us a name or two which you feel should be a bad guy and ask that we test those 1-2 people out by votes or otherwise prior to worrying about you, if your skills are that good, you can probably pick them out of the crowd without needing to be protected.

    The odds favor the knights protecting themselves every night over one person who has had some luck in the past, I don't see why we should ask knights to protect you at this time when their ability to fend off all attacks is more useful in the long run. The more days we get, the more visions we can have and the better chance we have of finding holy stone people.

    Ardor on
  • HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Yeah, I realized once I did some searching...well screw you guys, I'm going to be a moogle.

    Now let me just get the image uploaded, etc...

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  • GrimmyTOAGrimmyTOA Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    No more somersaulting panda? :(

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Ardor wrote: »
    TehSpectre wrote: »
    True Ardor, but I am just trying to find a way to stay alive past day one. I have shown an...affinity, for being able to find specials/badguys, so I figured someone would want that little skill of mine.

    I would imagine it's mostly called luck, which is something we all have from time to time.

    I wipe the slate clean when I play these games so as not to carry vengeance or other thoughts etc over to the games.

    Plenty of people in this player list can perform just as well as you can when given the chance, hence wraith, vigilante etc. Not everyone's had that chance. To bank our hopes on a single person seems very silly at this point in the game.

    You might be better off giving us a name or two which you feel should be a bad guy and ask that we test those 1-2 people out by votes or otherwise prior to worrying about you, if your skills are that good, you can probably pick them out of the crowd without needing to be protected.

    The odds favor the knights protecting themselves every night over one person who has had some luck in the past, I don't see why we should ask knights to protect you at this time when their ability to fend off all attacks is more useful in the long run. The more days we get, the more visions we can have and the better chance we have of finding holy stone people.


    Says the Goltana man who dosen't want an easy target protected?

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  • ZerinanZerinan Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Buzz Buzz wrote: »
    Sorry Hakkekage, only humans and beasts in FFT. That doesn't mean you can't be a Viera though, but then you're bringing race politics in and honestly, we're having enough of a political crisis as it is here...

    Next we'll have to give the Moogles the vote... :P

    What's so bad about letting Moogles vote? They are awesome! (That seems to be a theme of my describing stuff. It's always "awesome" :P)

    Anyway, the TehSpectre thing seems a big odd, but I was thinking, is it possible for the G-Men to protect a L-Man? Wait, yea they probably could, because they wouldn't know someones faction when they protected them. But I have now coined those terms! (I can't remember the Lords names, because I never actually played FFT. Plus G-man reminds me of Half-Life.)

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  • HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    GrimmyTOA wrote: »
    No more somersaulting panda? :(

    Just for now...

    I wish I could get rid of that ugly white lining around the panda, though. Oh well.
    Oh, well, which one of you is good enough at image editing, and how innocently do you want me to ask this question before you'll fix it?

    Look at it
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    It's living in shame!

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  • ArdorArdor Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    The holy stone crew doesn't care who dies, they just need everyone else to go away to win. Losing a knight is a big deal when they can essentially live forever. That hinders both sides of the conflict plus the holy stone crew.

    Knights who protect themselves die by vote only unless there's an item out there to kill them through protection, or someone has an ability to get them otherwise. Even so, they still have to be found by the attacks that happen in the night and it's still not a 100% guarantee they were defending themselves.

    Their ability to survive the stabbings in the night helps their side, which coincidentally lowers the odds of the holy stone group. I'd say that's a win-win.

    Ardor on
  • HylianbunnyHylianbunny Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    When the ninja of one team dies, how does the role get passed on exactly? Is it random? Could a Zodiac Brave who is supposedly a supporter of that same prince receive the role?

    The role will be passed on to someone of the same side. It could potentially go to a stone holder.

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  • DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited May 2007
    Damn Stoners.

    And the Moggle vote must be quashed.

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  • ZerinanZerinan Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Rygar wrote: »
    Damn Stoners.

    And the Moggle vote must be quashed.

    Save the Moogles! I'll protest against the unethical violence against such cute creatures!

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  • MrBlarneyMrBlarney Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Ah, so stone holders are considered part of a specific faction then? Does that mean oracles see them as being of one of those sides, rather than one who separately owns a Holy Stone?

    Interesting planning coming forth. It's kind of hard to send out PMs to random people since there's a one in two shot you'll be dealing with someone not on your side...

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  • HylianbunnyHylianbunny Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    An oracle will always see what side someone is on, and what role they have. There is a set chance of seeing what items they hold.

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  • HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Rygar wrote: »
    Damn Stoners.

    And the Moggle vote must be quashed.

    Kupo-po.

    Translation: Dick.

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  • TehSpectreTehSpectre Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Ardor wrote: »
    The holy stone crew doesn't care who dies, they just need everyone else to go away to win. Losing a knight is a big deal when they can essentially live forever. That hinders both sides of the conflict plus the holy stone crew.

    Knights who protect themselves die by vote only unless there's an item out there to kill them through protection, or someone has an ability to get them otherwise. Even so, they still have to be found by the attacks that happen in the night and it's still not a 100% guarantee they were defending themselves.

    Their ability to survive the stabbings in the night helps their side, which coincidentally lowers the odds of the holy stone group. I'd say that's a win-win.
    Ardor, you are just after me hardcore, aren'tcha?

    I've just been saying that in 2 previous games (VtP & CoP) I have been extremely "lucky", if that is the term you want to use.

    I regret now, my decision to try and be friendly with you this game by letting you know of my plan early on, because it obviously gave you time to think of how you could argue against myself.

    As I said, I don't need to convince you, or mostly anyone else, I just need for the knight and the oracle to give me a chance....they will not regret it.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I motion for the moogles to have a stronger vote. I've already contacted the Holy Dragon Party via cell phone©, and they will back me on this.

    Wait, wrong SRPG...

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  • WearingglassesWearingglasses Of the friendly neighborhood variety Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    The ninjas have a chance of killing their own people, no?

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  • ArdorArdor Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    TehSpectre wrote: »
    Ardor wrote: »
    The holy stone crew doesn't care who dies, they just need everyone else to go away to win. Losing a knight is a big deal when they can essentially live forever. That hinders both sides of the conflict plus the holy stone crew.

    Knights who protect themselves die by vote only unless there's an item out there to kill them through protection, or someone has an ability to get them otherwise. Even so, they still have to be found by the attacks that happen in the night and it's still not a 100% guarantee they were defending themselves.

    Their ability to survive the stabbings in the night helps their side, which coincidentally lowers the odds of the holy stone group. I'd say that's a win-win.
    Ardor, you are just after me hardcore, aren'tcha?

    I've just been saying that in 2 previous games (VtP & CoP) I have been extremely "lucky", if that is the term you want to use.

    I regret now, my decision to try and be friendly with you this game by letting you know of my plan early on, because it obviously gave you time to think of how you could argue against myself.

    As I said, I don't need to convince you, or mostly anyone else, I just need for the knight and the oracle to give me a chance....they will not regret it.

    I wipe the slate clean every game sir. I think your plan means we have to rely on you while knights protecting themselves gives us a better chance in the long run. If you had a way to guarantee us some zodiac kills, that would change my mind. Being lucky in past game will not substantiate your claim, at least not to me.

    Per rule verification, we know that zodiacs are a part of each faction, but since the oracles see roles, it's not like we have to blindly go find them.

    I'm curious why you think a knight should leave him/herself vulnerable while giving you some time to build up steam and try to nail some of them. Once the knight is dead, you could die the next round and your value to the group is gone. However, a knight who survives and even blocks a kill against himself could help immensely against both the opposing faction and the zodiacs.

    I don't see why they should trust one particular person like this is all, the odds and statistics really play against your plan. I'm not saying it wouldn't work, I'm looking at long term here. You bag us a zodiac at the cost of a knight for example, do you feel that was worth it?

    RE: Wearingglasses. From past games, I'm assuming the zodiacs know each other and those family members know each other, everyone else knows nobody. So the ninjas would have a chance of killing their own team.

    Ardor on
  • TehSpectreTehSpectre Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    The ninjas have a chance of killing their own people, no?
    Hello ninja.

    Edit: Ardor, the chance of a knight being hit on the first few days is very low.

    With that, I am off to patrol.

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  • Buzz BuzzBuzz Buzz Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    The ninjas have a chance of killing their own people, no?
    Anyone the ninja targets will die unless they're protected, it looks like. So their own people will die just as easily as their foes.

    Buzz Buzz on
  • WearingglassesWearingglasses Of the friendly neighborhood variety Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Just asking. :P I've had this avatar long before the game started.

    Wearingglasses on
  • MazloMazlo Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Moogles? Voting?

    Surely you jest, lest of course you mean to insult this grand body of noble servants of the throne? Next Buzz Buzz will propose that we let the peasants vote on this council's proceedings. Fellow noblemen, it may just be the suspicious air caused by his poor taste, but I believe Buzz Buzz may have had something to do with Soren's untimely death.

    (Woot FFT!)

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  • TehSpectreTehSpectre Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Just asking. :P I've had this avatar long before the game started.
    I can't see your avatar at work, it's just the way you asked.

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  • WearingglassesWearingglasses Of the friendly neighborhood variety Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Ohhhh.

    Oh.

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  • Typhus733Typhus733 Yip! Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    TehSpectre wrote: »
    True Ardor, but I am just trying to find a way to stay alive past day one. I have shown an...affinity, for being able to find specials/badguys, so I figured someone would want that little skill of mine.

    Edit: Also, for all we know, there are people running around with the "break armor" skill or something like that, who could break a knight's ability to block. It -was- an ability in FFT.

    Though that was a knight's ability too. If it were a possible action I would think that the knight would have to give up their block for the night and risk their life causing a dilemma for both them and the stone holders. That is assuming they have the ability to break though.

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  • ArdorArdor Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    TehSpectre wrote: »
    The ninjas have a chance of killing their own people, no?
    Hello ninja.

    Edit: Ardor, the chance of a knight being hit on the first few days is very low.

    With that, I am off to patrol.

    So you only want protection from the knights for one-two nights? Think of the long term please. We're looking at a game that's probably going to take around a week or so for someone to win.

    It's true the chances of a knight being hit is low, but it doesn't mean it cannot happen. When it does, it would be the other teams throwing out a lucky shot. We have 3+ blind kills happening every night, a team losing it's knight is a huge blow to them. Plus, you are also assuming you've got a knack or insight moreso than most the rest of the players in this game, when given the chance, I'm pretty sure many players can show just as much prowess.

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  • ZerinanZerinan Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Maybe TehSpectre is really psychic and can tell what someone is just by concentrating really, really hard. :P

    This seems like an odd way to begin day 1, but at least it's entertaining.

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  • HylianbunnyHylianbunny Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I didn't know he was Matt Parkman. :P

    The plot thickens...dun dun duuuuun.

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  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Zerinan wrote: »
    Maybe TehSpectre is really psychic and can tell what someone is just by concentrating really, really hard. :P

    This seems like an odd way to begin day 1, but at least it's entertaining.

    It's not odd in the slightest, it's fairly standard honestly.

    It is a pretty blatant attempt to power grab and avoiding the day one bandwagon that Spectre so richly deserves though.

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  • ArdorArdor Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Zerinan wrote: »
    Maybe TehSpectre is really psychic and can tell what someone is just by concentrating really, really hard. :P

    This seems like an odd way to begin day 1, but at least it's entertaining.

    It's not odd in the slightest, it's fairly standard honestly.

    It is a pretty blatant attempt to power grab and avoiding the day one bandwagon that Spectre so richly deserves though.

    DA is right, it's been a fairly common occurance where someone comes out in order to try and form a network that will work towards the greater good.

    In this case, the game seems balanced enough and since it's basically 18 vs 18 vs 6, I don't see the need to create a one sided network like this. Wait a few days for one team to get decimated before people would be interested in doing this.

    It's no longer villagers versus one bag guy group, it's two even teams against each other and one smaller faction.

    Ardor on
  • PsychoLarry1PsychoLarry1 Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Guys, I have a confession: I've never played FFT.
    Does that mean I lose?

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  • FunkyWaltDoggFunkyWaltDogg Columbia, SCRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Guys, I have a confession: I've never played FFT.
    Does that mean I lose?

    I hope not. I've never played it either.

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  • ZerinanZerinan Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    But isn't TehSpectre trying to avoid a bandwagon on something he did in the past? But thinks shouldn't be based on past phallas, because the characters involved are completely different. They don't have that knowledge.

    Edit: I haven't played it either, just FFT:A

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  • DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited May 2007
    Are the specials for each team networked or no?

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  • ArdorArdor Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    There are a fair number of people that probably keep thoughts on past performances to help them figure out who they would kill if they are bad guys. I can say I wipe the slate clean, but in the back of my mind I recognize certain skills of the players out here. It's not those who got some huge reputation from a game or two, it's the people who do the real work behind the scenes and don't get recognition from it.

    Ardor on
  • ZerinanZerinan Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Ardor wrote: »
    There are a fair number of people that probably keep thoughts on past performances to help them figure out who they would kill if they are bad guys. I can say I wipe the slate clean, but in the back of my mind I recognize certain skills of the players out here. It's not those who got some huge reputation from a game or two, it's the people who do the real work behind the scenes and don't get recognition from it.

    I still hate the fact that people do that. But I guess it's just how it is. But I will view and decide things from the vantage of my character, in that he knows nothing from other phallas, and only knows what is going on right then.

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  • TehSpectreTehSpectre Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Zerinan wrote: »
    Ardor wrote: »
    There are a fair number of people that probably keep thoughts on past performances to help them figure out who they would kill if they are bad guys. I can say I wipe the slate clean, but in the back of my mind I recognize certain skills of the players out here. It's not those who got some huge reputation from a game or two, it's the people who do the real work behind the scenes and don't get recognition from it.

    I still hate the fact that people do that. But I guess it's just how it is. But I will view and decide things from the vantage of my character, in that he knows nothing from other phallas, and only knows what is going on right then.
    [bandwagon] You were a Gangrel in the VtM phalla right?

    You must be a special! [/bandwagon]

    No, really guys, I am just trying my best to survive day one. Ador can throw out his fluff all day long if he wants, but I just want to be helpful.

    Ador can call what I do "luck", but I never just base my kills on hunches. I am just good at breaking down what people say and using it to see what they are.

    Take just a little while ago, glasses said something about the ninja being able to kill people on his own team. I took this as him being a newb to mafia games, but he seemed to ask about a certain role in the game. This, to me, means that he is the first generation ninja for his side. He doesn't quite know how things work and doesn't realise that he should have probably PMed Hyilianbunny for clarification.

    This doesn't matter much anyway, because the ninja role is changed @ death.

    Take my killings as "luck" if you will, but don't think it because Ardor tells you. He's just as likely to be on your side as I am (speaking to everyone playing) and that makes listening to someone dangerous in this game. He seems to be pointing out my flaws to everyone, where I am just trying to help my side win.

    Beware people who try and act like this is a regular phalla, because it isn't.

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  • GnastyGnasty Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Hi everyone!

    Screw Larg and Goltana, vote me for the throne!

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  • MrBlarneyMrBlarney Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Rygar wrote: »
    Are the specials for each team networked or no?

    I don't think any of the specials know each other, except for the family specials. It may take some time for both sides to start developing networks; loss of an oracle early on could be a big difference between success and failure.

    It's a good thing we have two days to discuss the first vote - this game is indeed different enough that we will have to think a bit differently about things. I'm still not sure how to handle TehSpectre yet - he's always been suspicious of me in past Phalla games so I suppose I owe him the same courtesy.

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