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That’s definitely Pete right
i'll admit i haven't looked too deeply into her but i remember folks i know from kentucky being pretty frustrated with her as the pick
http://www.audioentropy.com/
I mean, I'm probably voting for Pete in NC if he gets that far, and if Bernie's the winner I'll pull the lever for him in the general with no qualms. But he's not my pick and this is part of why. I think it's a pattern echoed today in his belief that somehow a revolutionary tide of blue votes will carry us all into a new era with him at the helm. It's no more realistic than going to the soviet union and thinking anybody there would say a mean word about the place while you're around.
I'm currently at
Pete
Warren
Biden
Bernie
whoever
Gooooood thing.
was it anything like Canada's rail lines, where the majority of the labourers (and casualties) were poorly paid Chinese immigrants?
fair point, that's worth reading.
Ok, X’er
It's from the Today Show and available on YouTube.
I've seen more than one person put Warren higher on their list than Bernie, but with Biden somehow in between and I am baffled. I mean I'm also baffled that people think Pete is at all likeable as a candidate or a human being
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I could see viewing Sanders as either unelectable or a liability in the election.
Or maybe on policy grounds if you think that the "Sanders says socialism" thing matters a lot there.
I don't agree with it but I can see reasons for it.
(And it was not very good)
Neither of them have presented any policies that would do anything beyond trying to undo some of what Trump has done and bring back GOOD OLE CIVILITY AND COMPROMISE despite the past 2 decades showing that that shit doesn't work anymore and the only way forward is to aggressively push for change and rally the overwhelming majority of Americans who aren't rich or white or bigots to make a future that will do more than offer a rainbow flag pin on a cop's vest as he gut punches a queer protester for getting pissed that Amazon has taken over their pride parade
It could also just be an electability argument. Which seems to be the biggest things Democratic primary voters are thinking about.
It's basically always been the main case for Biden after all. And Klobuchar too honestly.
It doesn't exist
The most electable candidate is the one people like the most
That's it
The idea that a fuckin mysterious ethereal quality means only certain people (almost always white men, occasionally women, who don't want to rock the boat even a little) can be considered for office is clown shoes
Like, you're supposed to be the champion of people's democracy or whatever, the big outsider who's not part of the entrenched power system, but also you're totally for hanging onto your special undemocratic veto in what's already the least democratic branch of the government?
But no the real traitor of the people is the woman who wants to enact single payer healthcare in a two step process instead of a single step.
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
frankly even if i accept the premise that biden or buttigieg want to undo some of what trump's done, i have no confidence in their ability to follow through on that desire
if i'm being honest i'm pretty worried that we're just fucked and there's no fixing things. but if there is a way to make things better it's going to require someone who's ready to fight tooth and nail, not someone who wants unity and compromise with fascists, and i just do not believe that pete or joe have that in them
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it's like when people think that you spend your political capital on a bill or whatever and now you're out of credits to spend to get people to vote for anything else you do
I mean, sure. But it's still how a lot of people are making their decision as far as we know.
They are looking at the candidates and thinking "Who will the people who's votes we need to win in November vote for?".
Also the debate questions should definitely just be basic questions about how the government works.
This is why I am more for Warren than Sanders (though Pete is still my #1) - if we are to take Bernie at his words, he will user in a blue wave revolution that will somehow bypass the supermajority issue for cloture votes that have strangled all prior efforts? Like, getting 60-61 solid yes votes is basically impossible now. The only way to affect change outside of reconciliation and executive orders, which are ephemeral and prone to failure when the presidency changes hands, is by murdering the filibuster or forcing it to happen and halting all senate activity until it is resolved.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
Not a "oh, we will cross the aisle and work together" mealy mouth promise
That shit doesn't work
The other side has been actively destroying every part of the government for over a decade and has no interest in anything other than their own power
You gotta dig in and pick fights and even then shits gonna get messy. The courts are filled with unqualified, bigoted and corrupt judges right now. That ain't something that's gonna get fixed with well wishes and hope.
Moscow Mitch is one of the few things that seemed to ever actually get under his skin.
ladies and gentlemen i rest my case
He is still being the evil nightmare he always has been
Him going OH NO THEY CALLED ME A NAME while okaying the latest atrocity doesn't mean shit
that's seems like the general idea here
he should be legitimately and actually afraid of leaving his home
he has a lot of money and power so that's a tall order but until that's where we're at with the guy i'm not impressed by "getting under his skin"
http://www.audioentropy.com/
"This is somewhat vexing, these spiteful names they've given me, " Mitch McConnell mutters to himself as he fast-tracks another entirely-unqualified-except-for-hating-outgroups nominee to a lifetime appointment as a federal judge, helping to enshrine neo-conservative "values" into our judicial system for decades to come regardless of what happens in the legislature.
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His usual mo would be to say nothing and keep destroying US democracy, so the fact that he even bothered to respond at all suggests it actually bothered him in some way or he thinks it hurts his re-election chances or something like that. Clearly not enough on it's own since they need to actually beat him in the election in November (fingers crossed there), but it's interesting that he seemed to care at all. McConnell's gameplay is always to say bland standard nothing while slow but surely ramming the establishment conservative agenda through without concern for appearances or the future of the entire US system of government or literally anything but political power.
No Republican actually gives a shit
Especially when Pelosi is doing stuff like passing military spending increases and attempting to quiet down the liberal wing of her own party
Gestures are pointless in 2020, do shit that matters
This is insipid bullshit. What does this mean in context? Is Bernie going to lecture people into doing what he wants? What will he do when that inevitably fails?