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an american politics/democratic primaries thread for the naughty children of d&d
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Warren didn't compromise though? Her plan is that if she gets people on the public option and people can see that it is actually good, that the rest of M4A will be made significantly easier to pass. You might disagree with her plan! But it's not a compromise, it's a difference in tactics.
the point of a primary is to nitpick between the candidates. if these differences didn't matter than what are we doing here
If he was, it was an amazingly bad idea unless the actual hope was to split the moderate vote more
Plutocratic vanity campaigns are the rage nowadays
To me he's been selling that that's his goal. But I don't think most of his supporters are dumb enough to assume once he's in office he will be king and decree shit. I understand that sometimes your goals have to get modified a bit. I dunno why people think Bernie supporters don't understand this. Also he's got more goals than this, it's not his 'singular promise'
because I still have a hard time taking any of his policy goals seriously when he doesn't want to address the undemocratic nature of the senate
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
how housebroken are you, pet
i dunno if i agree with that, but i can at the very least understand and respect that perspective
i was more responding to the idea that Sanders is somehow doing a bad job because he "hasn't been selling compromise or reasonability." like, yeah no shit. i'd be mad at him if he was.
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She compromised because she initially said she was on favor of Bernie's plan, then changed that around. Some people disagree that this is a compromise or a shift to the middle but it sure seemed like one to me and a lot of others.
i mean we're living through the alternative of that and it's not going so hot so i don't know that you have the high ground on this one
Not my fault that you cant back up what you say.
to be fair, the media is doing a great job saying that the only differences that matter are those between Sanders and The Moderate Conglomerate
Shit, the only reason she got the blood test was because Jon Favreau suggested it on Twitter.
I still think she’s a good bridge between the current establishment and the Bernie wing but she has terrible political instincts.
so you're
not willing to go camp outside his house then?
sounds like you're still on team status quo
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
i didn't realize ben shapiro posted here
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if they have the same end point but disagree on the path to get there it is difficult to see how that is a shift to the middle. If they both wanted a $15 dollar minimum wage but one proposed a jump halfway immediately and the other half after two years, and the other proposed jumping to $15 after one year they are still both supporting the same thing imo. Just a different strategy to get there.
Didn't AOC just give away the game, then, by admitting the political realities mean M4A will be a difficult lift?
yet you participate in society. curious!
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
no, I mean, exactly dude
we all fukkin participate in society
talking big revolution words doesn't mean shit
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
“you said on an iPhone”
do you people think i will for anyone that isn't bernie? fuckin try me, buckaroo
Where on Earth did you get the idea that anyone you're talking to wants Bernie to compromise
Read the room
I mean from my perspective? Yeah I am of the opinion that that wasn't a great idea. I'm not really sure why you're so hung up on this
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Me neither given all the strawmen you post.
You still got nothing.
This is pretty real
On both sides of the party, honestly. The progressive vs moderate rhetoric is hardening a lot. It'll be interesting to see how we manage that in the general.
Here's a question: let's assume, and I think this is safe, that most of the party in Congress will still be moderate. Even assuming that the Senate flips, it's still going to be much closer to the middle than Bernie is.
Do his supporters still think we go full revolution, swing for the socialist fences remake the country? A Trumpian realignment to the left, his way or the highway? Or will they look for party unity within, and modulate somewhat?
well then I god damn hope he keeps holding the nomination
otherwise it's gonna be trump
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
But I have issues with someone who has been in the system as long as him selling a vision of a blue wave rising up and making the politicians vote for the good stuff when he knows for a FACT it doesn’t work.
I give Obama a pass because he was a junior senator and we saw the dissolution of his idealism in real time over 8 years until he left office rather bitter at the whole thing.
Bernie doesn’t have that excuse. He knows the flaws in the system. And his plans do nothing to address them, let alone talk about how you can practically work around them.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
what indication do you have that i don't do anything
i haven't posted any strawmen, i just made fun of you. you're invoking the wrong fallacies of me
He's going to HAVE to that's the point. And when he does, how will his supporters respond when he's been ginning them up with big talk about revolutions and bullshit?
so what do you do?
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
Have we talked about how Pete's comms director was probably operating a sock-puppet twitter account where she was pretending to be Nigerian?
Cause, fucking lol, was probably operating a sock-puppet twitter account where she was pretending to be Nigerian.
You just implied I was Ben Shapiro you goose.
Try again. Try harder.
There has certainly been signs and portents
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this entire conversational thread started because i said i wasn't impressed by people calling him "moscow mitch"
i would be impressed if someone punched him in the face
at least for the time being i'm not gonna be the guy to do that on account of he is very far away from me, i'm not very fit, and also i am a coward
but if someone did i'd be hootin' and hollerin' for them
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See, the great thing is that no one really has to try, you do perfectly fine on your own
She is still in favour of Sanders' end goal. She just has a different idea about how you get there.
She's still signed on to Sanders' bill in the Senate too afaik.
If you read that comment and thought they were actually suggesting you were actually Ben Shapiro, the problem is with you.
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