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Minneapolis is on fire.

BroloBrolo BroseidonLord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
edited May 2020 in Social Entropy++







https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/05/27/george-floyd-protesters-clash-minneapolis-police-after-video/5264887002/

George Floyd was murderered by police on Monday. Protesters clashed with police on Tuesday and Wednesday. As of Thursday, the mayor has requested that the national guard be deployed, and has called for the arrest of the four police officers who murderered George Floyd.

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    If you live anywhere near the area, please stay safe out there, friends.

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    MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
    Weird that the cops didn't react this way when militias marched on the capitol in Michigan and other states. Very weird.

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    DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    Hobnail wrote: »


    I assume this is quite good and informative, I was up till o'darkthirty watching the Unicorn Riot livestream which I can garuntee is quite good and should get some sort of award or somethin

    https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2020/05/27/the-boogaloo-movement-is-not-what-you-think/

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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    Unicorn Riot was out doing amazing shit last night



    Truly wooly on the ground, can't fuckin imagine whatll transpire this evening

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    Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    jesus i haven't heard of ANY of this and i'm about 5 miles away

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    cursedkingcursedking Registered User regular
    I saw an article that was really focused on an auto zone burning down and it was like oh no won’t someone think of the auto zones

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    XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    I only heard of it because of this thread

    I hate to say the only thing surprising is that the cops got fired

    (I'm sure at least three of them will be reinstated if not all four)

    what a shitty shitty world.

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    Mortal SkyMortal Sky queer punk hedge witchRegistered User regular
    part of why this has gotten where it is? police were so over aggressive in the first few hours that they've run out of the less-lethal ammo (primarily gas grenades and black glass balls) but thankfully haven't escalated further

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    ZxerolZxerol for the smaller pieces, my shovel wouldn't do so i took off my boot and used my shoeRegistered User regular
    edited May 2020
    hey when people say "acab" and you're like "nuh uh #notallcops"



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    Bendery It Like BeckhamBendery It Like Beckham Hopeless Registered User regular
    edited May 2020
    Reminder: "Riots are the language of the unheard" - Martin Luther King Jr

    In a system that values capital over human life the cry that yells the loudest is property damage.

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    TheySlashThemTheySlashThem Registered User regular
    remember as more news and/or footage from this comes out: corporate and state media both have a vested interest in making the rioters look monstrous

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    Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    remember as more news and/or footage from this comes out: corporate and state media both have a vested interest in making the rioters look monstrous

    It’s going to be tough to make it look worse than the video we’ve all seen of the cop crushing Floyd’s neck with his knee while people were yelling at him that Floyd was dying

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    SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    I mean, it's really easy to never show that and instead only show the very worst instances of perceived violence from the protesters, even if those instances have to be intentionally provoked by the cops

    it's beyond easy to show whatever you want when you control all of the media

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    MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
    Firing the cops is pointless.

    They killed a person, they need to be arrested.

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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    Not that I have a problem with autozones burning down but if an autozone or autozone type establishment near you catches fire please stay the flying fuck away from it due to the notoriously awful combination of poison and explosions

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    Magell wrote: »
    Firing the cops is pointless.

    They killed a person, they need to be arrested.

    yeah, cops are like priests; when they make a "mistake," they just get shuffled around to a new job in a different area. Unless they actually go to prison.

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    StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    Apparently protesters near the murderer's house were able to levy some classic siege tactics last night - he kept trying to order delivery food and whenever a car would drive up they would tell the driver who he was delivering to and the driver would leave.

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    DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    The murderer cop being almost immediately doxxed was very very good

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    so if the mayor wants these cops arrested and everyone knows where the one murderer is, why is he not being arrested

    or is that what the national guard is for, to arrest the murderer because the cops won't arrest their own?

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    SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    KalTorak wrote: »
    so if the mayor wants these cops arrested and everyone knows where the one murderer is, why is he not being arrested

    or is that what the national guard is for, to arrest the murderer because the cops won't arrest their own?

    The mayor does not in themselves have the unilateral authority to have someone arrested.

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    simulacrumsimulacrum She/herRegistered User regular
    Reminder to not share stuff with the protesters faces in them

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    miscellaneousinsanitymiscellaneousinsanity grass grows, birds fly, sun shines, and brother, i hurt peopleRegistered User regular
    edited May 2020
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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    They should be arrested by the local police. I can't believe they weren't at least detained pending investigation

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    SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    I can believe that. Cops don’t arrest cops.

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    ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    SimBen wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    so if the mayor wants these cops arrested and everyone knows where the one murderer is, why is he not being arrested

    or is that what the national guard is for, to arrest the murderer because the cops won't arrest their own?

    The mayor does not in themselves have the unilateral authority to have someone arrested.

    yeah he can put pressure on police leadership but they can tell him to pound sand if they want

    usually this is for the best but police are scum so...

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    Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    KalTorak wrote: »
    so if the mayor wants these cops arrested and everyone knows where the one murderer is, why is he not being arrested

    or is that what the national guard is for, to arrest the murderer because the cops won't arrest their own?

    There’s apparently a chitauri battalion’s worth of cops standing guard outside his house

    Holding Chauvin in custody is the cheapest and best play for everyone, he should be begging for it

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    JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    Serious question can we just... get rid of cops?

    Like, would we see any major differences in day to day without a police force? Or at least a diminished and completely disarmed police force? Cause it seems like when they actually have to do any sort of policing that doesn't involve cool Call of Duty gear or killing black people they kinda suck at their job. But I don't have numbers or anything.

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    ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    SimBen wrote: »
    I can believe that. Cops don’t arrest cops.

    don't be ridiculous

    they'll happily arrest cops who give evidence against other cops

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    XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    Juggernut wrote: »
    Serious question can we just... get rid of cops?

    Like, would we see any major differences in day to day without a police force? Or at least a diminished and completely disarmed police force? Cause it seems like when they actually have to do any sort of policing that doesn't involve cool Call of Duty gear or killing black people they kinda suck at their job. But I don't have numbers or anything.

    what? no. cops are good for all sorts of things, it's just when they're bad, they're the worst.

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    Zxerol wrote: »
    hey when people say "acab" and you're like "nuh uh #notallcops"



    Seems like it’d be cheaper to keep him in a nice, safe jail cell.

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    simulacrumsimulacrum She/herRegistered User regular
    Nah abolish the police

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    ph blakeph blake Registered User regular
    At the very least cops shouldn't carry guns, but also good luck implementing that policy when there are at least half a million fuckhead cops in the US who would literally riot if someone tried to take away their easiest way to murder people.

    Like, I'm trying to imagine a city actually instituting a "no guns on duty" policy, and the only result I can even imagine happening is "armed cops take over city hall, city leadership backs down"

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    StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    Juggernut wrote: »
    Serious question can we just... get rid of cops?

    Like, would we see any major differences in day to day without a police force? Or at least a diminished and completely disarmed police force? Cause it seems like when they actually have to do any sort of policing that doesn't involve cool Call of Duty gear or killing black people they kinda suck at their job. But I don't have numbers or anything.

    Theoretically yes. There are a bunch of different models that could work instead.

    Practically, it becomes a lot more difficult. Both in terms of like, no politician in the country would do it/police unions are too powerful/all that sort of stuff, and in terms of culture - that sort of structural change would be a dramatic alteration for literally every one in the country, and a lifetime of pro-police education and ingrained practices would make it extremely difficult for, in the absence of cops, someone not to invent them.

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    TheySlashThemTheySlashThem Registered User regular
    Xaquin wrote: »
    Juggernut wrote: »
    Serious question can we just... get rid of cops?

    Like, would we see any major differences in day to day without a police force? Or at least a diminished and completely disarmed police force? Cause it seems like when they actually have to do any sort of policing that doesn't involve cool Call of Duty gear or killing black people they kinda suck at their job. But I don't have numbers or anything.

    what? no. cops are good for all sorts of things, it's just when they're bad, they're the worst.

    they're not even good at the things we supposedly keep them around for

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    XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    guys I get that these (and many!) cops are terrible and murderers, but domestic violence, murders, drunk driving, robbery, etc. etc. etc. are still things, and I somehow doubt they'd all go away if we 'got rid of cops'

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    PhasenPhasen Hell WorldRegistered User regular
    Xaquin wrote: »
    guys I get that these (and many!) cops are terrible and murderers, but domestic violence, murders, drunk driving, robbery, etc. etc. etc. are still things, and I somehow doubt they'd all go away if we 'got rid of cops'

    Don't look up the statistics of those crimes cross-referenced with police officers.

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    DepressperadoDepressperado I just wanted to see you laughing in the pizza rainRegistered User regular
    edited May 2020
    you don't get rid of cops, you get rid of cops. Fix them with cement galoshes or just line them up, whatever, I'm not picky

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    The problem with police in the US is symptomatic of the deeper structural issues there. Addressing those issues would address a lot of issues with US policing and also create a society with a different idea of what policing should be

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    JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    Yeah like, it just seems to me, like looking at our massive backlog of rape kits for instance, we pay these dudes to basically play GI Joe and then go home and beat their families. So like, maybe we don't abolish cops we just take away all of their toys and only allow the extent of their authority to be getting cats out of trees. We can keep the hyper specialized units like SWAT or whatever who you'd need for actual serious crimes, but your average beat cop? Nah fam you don't get a gun and maybe they all get bicycles instead of squad cars.

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    ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    the thing about cops is that they aren't good at stopping those things

    domestic violence in particular needs social workers, not cops, at least forty percent of whom are themselves domestic abusers

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