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He never really changed his mind. This is the sort of game he gets up to: say something that sounds reasonable but stinks of a feint, wait for the inevitable backlash, then take his ball and go home, blaming the backlash for it. The whole thing was meant to attract vitriol from people who knew full well he was just playing a stupid game, so that he could then turn around and point at the vitriol as yet another example of the Intolerant Left sabotaging our own cause.
Having mostly emotionally disinvested myself (at least for the moment) from the arguably hopeless farce that is American electoral politics, I was just hoping for some form of dark comedy on Tuesday night. Instead it was just bleak.
Probably not going to watch the other ones.
Yep heard it several times "well I would have supported m4a and the green new deal but you said you don't like *blank* so now I'm going TRUMP!"
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Wait, if Trump loses, will we be allowed to post satire again?
Will anything ever be funny again?
He did his tour while still actively serving as the Attorney General for Delaware. Which would have been an easy reason to not deploy with the rest of his National Guard unit, considering.
If you can momentarily step outside of all the human misery and unnecessary suffering, the abject ridiculousness, stupidity, and avoidable nature our current circumstances are unquestionably hilarious.
But it’s not really a belly laugh, more of a ‘Spouse worriedly asking if you’re ok,’ kind of laugh.
I think whether you voted is on the public record - it could probably be checked fairly easily.
My wife and I caught snippets of the debate on NHK TV while we were eating lunch at our favorite Japanese buffet place.
'"I feel sorry for all Americans." - Japan' pretty much sums it up.
I think the right really does not want people who missed the debate deciding to watch the debate.
I remember in 2004, when the GOP tried to attack John Kerry by tying him to Jane Fonda and everyone has to distance themselves from get because patriotism.
And then 12 years later, Jane Fonda appears at the DNC convention.
In hindsight, Jane Fonda might be the kiss of death.
I surmise a lot of Trump voters are the very definition of sunken cost fallacy.
They can't possibly have made a terrible mistake in voting for their guy. Choices are indicative of the person making them, and people absolutely, positively hate to be proven wrong and levied with "I told you so". Humans love to be right (as in correct) all the time.
Some are just racist shitheels and will always look for some excuse, however small, to validate their shitty choices.
Trump's debate performance reminds me of an overflowing toilet clogged with all of his BS and verbal diarrhea.
I'm sure Major Biden left the FOB,* and even if he didn't, it's not like the FOB is off-limits to mortar fire. I just don't want it to turn into a gotcha thing like "Leftist media falsely claims Biden son was a war hero!"
Particularly because the only two articles I got from googling Biden's bronze star both say something like "we don't know exactly what it was for, but the Bronze Star is for combat, so it must have been combat!"
*although his command probably took some pains to keep him away from danger, because getting the Vice President's son killed is a bad career move
The republican way. We love you when we can pander to you, fuck you when it doesn't serve our purpose.
I'm a navy vet and I'm embarrassed for voting for bush in 04 and believing the swiftboat kerry or whatever bullshit. I was a hardcore republican, because they're for the military right? Only when it serves them. And vets that become democrats, may as well be the devil.
Makes me puke thinking about my old politics.
And then Kamala absolutely destroys Pence, while Trump thinks "better Pence than me."
Maybe add some Instagram filters while they're at it
Biden is too decent for that.
There’s no benefit and only risk here
It wasn't appreciably any more insane than any time previous he opened his mouth.
Has he been sick with it for 4 years? Because he was a belligerent asshole during those debates too.
Not if Biden is an actually good candidate whose personality and platform can stand on its own without the heavy contrast of Trump's incompetence on full display.
Right
that would just look arrogant
Oh, wait...
I despise Fox News and it irritates me to no end that so many fellow military members swallow their tripe and the Republicans' lies. Luckily, everyone in my immediate office sees through Trump's BS and think he's thoroughly corrupt and unhinged.
But having seen Trump in person at one of his "speeches", there are sadly not an insignificant number of servicemembers who are on his side (a lot of Marines, for certain). But this was before Covid-19 and Trump's damning comments being leaked about how military are "suckers" dying for their country.
It's clear Trump has no concept of self sacrifice and service to country, and his burning of so many Pentagon brass and the shitty treatment of LtCol Vindman and others did not go unnoticed.
And we know he can do all those things. He's done speeches. His DNC one was very well received. He can do a town hall. He'll be fine if it's just him up there.
The idea that Biden being in front of the public is a risk is just more stupid right-wing/far-left "Biden has dementia" crap.
This hasn't really been true since the 1980's. Reagan revoked the actual rules.
The year that shall not be named is an example of this. They gave Trump hours and hours and hours more time for free than his opponent.
This is only brought out when Dems are involved.
Presidential approval grows during a national crisis, and the President catching COVID will absolutely be seen as a national crisis.