Glad to see it's an option, but I could not see myself using it on any game that wasn't already stuck at 1080p due to developer (un)-support. Or if I owned a Series X and didn't own a 4K television (which is already an exceedingly rare situation).
says who? I have a PS5 and a Series X and a perfectly working 1080p TV that I have no reason to upgrade
4k penetration is less than 50% of North American homes, I think it's insane that all these new games don't support 60fps + raytracing @ 1080p instead of 30fps + raytraycing @ 4k
Yeah, as of yet I don't have a Series X or PS5, and was sort of pushed into getting a 4K TV a few months back when my 1080p TV's panel died. But on the whole I agree, and had been in a similar boat with older consoles - a One X and PS4 Pro with a 1080p TV, and both on a 720p TV before that!
Depending on the game I'd rather have options - NFS: Hot Pursuit Remastered, for example, offers 30fps @ 4K or 60fps @ 1080p on my One X, and in a game like that the framerate boost is more than worth the resolution tradeoff. In a slower-paced game? Sure, maybe I'd take resolution over framerate. But it's appreciated when I have the choice. (Which, as I discovered with those consoles on the older TVs, was remarkably rare - perhaps a consequence of their notorious CPU limitations.)
But also, I have a 120Hz display on PC, and can't really perceive the difference above a solid 60fps in games that can go higher. Great for people who can perceive it, but for me I'm happy to max out at 60fps with higher image quality than go to 120fps which the new consoles are clearly already making big compromises to do.
Glad to see it's an option, but I could not see myself using it on any game that wasn't already stuck at 1080p due to developer (un)-support. Or if I owned a Series X and didn't own a 4K television (which is already an exceedingly rare situation).
says who? I have a PS5 and a Series X and a perfectly working 1080p TV that I have no reason to upgrade
4k penetration is less than 50% of North American homes, I think it's insane that all these new games don't support 60fps + raytracing @ 1080p instead of 30fps + raytraycing @ 4k
I'm not really disagreeing about 1080p support, but I would think there's a decent overlap between early adopters for TV tech and early adopters of gaming tech.
Glad to see it's an option, but I could not see myself using it on any game that wasn't already stuck at 1080p due to developer (un)-support. Or if I owned a Series X and didn't own a 4K television (which is already an exceedingly rare situation).
says who? I have a PS5 and a Series X and a perfectly working 1080p TV that I have no reason to upgrade
4k penetration is less than 50% of North American homes, I think it's insane that all these new games don't support 60fps + raytracing @ 1080p instead of 30fps + raytraycing @ 4k
Good point. But it's going to get rarer, that much is obvious. And it doesn't change the fact whereas buying a new console is difficult, buying a new 1080p television, over a certain panel size point, is nearly impossible.
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Glad to see it's an option, but I could not see myself using it on any game that wasn't already stuck at 1080p due to developer (un)-support. Or if I owned a Series X and didn't own a 4K television (which is already an exceedingly rare situation).
says who? I have a PS5 and a Series X and a perfectly working 1080p TV that I have no reason to upgrade
4k penetration is less than 50% of North American homes, I think it's insane that all these new games don't support 60fps + raytracing @ 1080p instead of 30fps + raytraycing @ 4k
Good point. But it's going to get rarer, that much is obvious.
Because I’m stuck with a 970, I run my PC into my 4K TV usually at 1080 since I can get frame rates that are light years better. Even though I have a huge 4K TV, I’d absolutely appreciate a higher frame rate 1080p mode and which more games offered it.
Glad to see it's an option, but I could not see myself using it on any game that wasn't already stuck at 1080p due to developer (un)-support. Or if I owned a Series X and didn't own a 4K television (which is already an exceedingly rare situation).
says who? I have a PS5 and a Series X and a perfectly working 1080p TV that I have no reason to upgrade
4k penetration is less than 50% of North American homes, I think it's insane that all these new games don't support 60fps + raytracing @ 1080p instead of 30fps + raytraycing @ 4k
Good point. But it's going to get rarer, that much is obvious.
Because I’m stuck with a 970, I run my PC into my 4K TV usually at 1080 since I can get frame rates that are light years better. Even though I have a huge 4K TV, I’d absolutely appreciate a higher frame rate 1080p mode and which more games offered it.
So in other words, even though it's a useful setting, you also have a 4K television.
Trouble is that 120 FPS support at any resolution is way less common on recent TVs than 4K support. Even if it is finally a part of the 2.1 standard now.
Trouble is that 120 FPS support at any resolution is way less common on recent TVs than 4K support. Even if it is finally a part of the 2.1 standard now.
I'm going to guess the percentage of Xbox Series X owners who have 4K-capable televisions is a great deal higher than those who have televisions capable of 120hz at 1080p.
Since the percentage of televisions that can do 1080/120hz but not 4K is, effectively, zero, and even among monitors it's not very common.
I've been on 1080p on my monitor and I'll be honest, on some games I prefer without HDR. Destiny in particular has terrible HDR still. I'll take higher frames over resolution any day.
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I mean I've had two xboxes in a row that can do higher end tv stuff my tv can't do, but like the tv works and I don't feel the need to upgrade yet (though soon soon shall).
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
Also anyone else when they replace a formerly productive card on their diamond dynasty team with a better card feel a little sad? I felt like I need to send flowers to Roberto Clemente's grave. "I'm sorry Roberto you're a beautiful soul but I can get on base easier with Tony Gwynn and he's got way better speed then you do you've got like catcher legs."
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
Also anyone else when they replace a formerly productive card on their diamond dynasty team with a better card feel a little sad? I felt like I need to send flowers to Roberto Clemente's grave. "I'm sorry Roberto you're a beautiful soul but I can get on base easier with Tony Gwynn and he's got way better speed then you do you've got like catcher legs."
I can't do that I CAN'T! I also hate the A's so screw moneyball!
Though Tony hasn't been as productive as of late and I got this new kid putting in some reps off the bench for my pitchers (seriously why does the DH not exist in the game? Like last year the national league had a fucking dh and in the showaverse its outlawed!)
Also conquest mode on the big map is hilarious, I left the west coast on its own and it ended up a battle between the padres and Seattle all the other west coast teams were eliminated.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
I can't do that I CAN'T! I also hate the A's so screw moneyball!
Though Tony hasn't been as productive as of late and I got this new kid putting in some reps off the bench for my pitchers (seriously why does the DH not exist in the game? Like last year the national league had a fucking dh and in the showaverse its outlawed!)
Also conquest mode on the big map is hilarious, I left the west coast on its own and it ended up a battle between the padres and Seattle all the other west coast teams were eliminated.
regardless of your stance on the As the movie Moneyball is incredible
I can't do that I CAN'T! I also hate the A's so screw moneyball!
Though Tony hasn't been as productive as of late and I got this new kid putting in some reps off the bench for my pitchers (seriously why does the DH not exist in the game? Like last year the national league had a fucking dh and in the showaverse its outlawed!)
Also conquest mode on the big map is hilarious, I left the west coast on its own and it ended up a battle between the padres and Seattle all the other west coast teams were eliminated.
regardless of your stance on the As the movie Moneyball is incredible
I was in the bay area that year. Good times!
Also, the methodology behind Moneyball is still very sound.
I've been on 1080p on my monitor and I'll be honest, on some games I prefer without HDR. Destiny in particular has terrible HDR still. I'll take higher frames over resolution any day.
HDR implementation is a made of artistic choice and implementation, and thus, can be good or bad.
As oppose to higher resolution, which is by definition higher fidelity. A game can look bad, but it's not because of it's higher resolution, it's because the game itself has inherent limitations or because at lower resolution it's too blurry of a mess to make out anything anyway. Higher resolutions can impede a much older game for that reason, in which case they're not good, but it's not like higher framerates don't actively harm games if they break their internal logic timing or change their controls in a bad rather than good way.
On the topic of "higher resolution" versus "higher framerate", unless you're sitting far from your screen, or have a small screen, 2160p at 60 hz clobbers 1080p at "about 120 hz". But at lower framerates, it's a much harder question. Faster refresh rates translating to a higher framerate can be a big advantage in control response--though when you quadruple your framerate, you're literally going to see small details (and large ones) you don't see otherwise. It's circumstantial.
EDIT: I'm spending a lot less time on the PA Forums, so I'm in no rush to make a new thread, but I'll do so eventually, not solely because I don't trust any of you jabronis to do it.
Hey, uh if you're a person who likes Midnight Club, Midnight Club Los Angeles (Complete Edition) for the 360 is once again available on the Xbox store.
Hey, uh if you're a person who likes Midnight Club, Midnight Club Los Angeles (Complete Edition) for the 360 is once again available on the Xbox store.
This wasn't on my radar at all but Left 4 Dead with dinosaurs is a pretty decent premise and it looks pretty gorgeous and it's on Game Pass so I'll probably check it out.
Hey, uh if you're a person who likes Midnight Club, Midnight Club Los Angeles (Complete Edition) for the 360 is once again available on the Xbox store.
Hey, has anyone tried running that xbox cloud android service on their desktop?
I want to play Halo 5 on PC, but was curious on performance/input lag.
I've got good internet, 1.5gbps up/down and stadia worked well but before subscribing and getting the android emulator going was curious on real world feedback.
Before you go down the emulation hole, they're sending out emails inviting people to try running Game Pass streaming through a web browser and if you haven't gotten one yet you probably will soon. I got mine yesterday and tried it and it's very slick, you log into the website on chrome and it works just like the Android app from there.
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oh that's fun, i've wanted to check it out
Yeah, as of yet I don't have a Series X or PS5, and was sort of pushed into getting a 4K TV a few months back when my 1080p TV's panel died. But on the whole I agree, and had been in a similar boat with older consoles - a One X and PS4 Pro with a 1080p TV, and both on a 720p TV before that!
Depending on the game I'd rather have options - NFS: Hot Pursuit Remastered, for example, offers 30fps @ 4K or 60fps @ 1080p on my One X, and in a game like that the framerate boost is more than worth the resolution tradeoff. In a slower-paced game? Sure, maybe I'd take resolution over framerate. But it's appreciated when I have the choice. (Which, as I discovered with those consoles on the older TVs, was remarkably rare - perhaps a consequence of their notorious CPU limitations.)
But also, I have a 120Hz display on PC, and can't really perceive the difference above a solid 60fps in games that can go higher. Great for people who can perceive it, but for me I'm happy to max out at 60fps with higher image quality than go to 120fps which the new consoles are clearly already making big compromises to do.
Steam | XBL
I'm not really disagreeing about 1080p support, but I would think there's a decent overlap between early adopters for TV tech and early adopters of gaming tech.
The DQ Builders games are so good. It's great that more people get to play it.
Good point. But it's going to get rarer, that much is obvious. And it doesn't change the fact whereas buying a new console is difficult, buying a new 1080p television, over a certain panel size point, is nearly impossible.
Because I’m stuck with a 970, I run my PC into my 4K TV usually at 1080 since I can get frame rates that are light years better. Even though I have a huge 4K TV, I’d absolutely appreciate a higher frame rate 1080p mode and which more games offered it.
So in other words, even though it's a useful setting, you also have a 4K television.
I'm going to guess the percentage of Xbox Series X owners who have 4K-capable televisions is a great deal higher than those who have televisions capable of 120hz at 1080p.
Since the percentage of televisions that can do 1080/120hz but not 4K is, effectively, zero, and even among monitors it's not very common.
Steam | XBL
It depends on a lot on the size of the tv and the distance you’re sitting at.
True. In my case a 50" TV at about six and a half feet, give or take.
Steam | XBL
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Though Tony hasn't been as productive as of late and I got this new kid putting in some reps off the bench for my pitchers (seriously why does the DH not exist in the game? Like last year the national league had a fucking dh and in the showaverse its outlawed!)
Also conquest mode on the big map is hilarious, I left the west coast on its own and it ended up a battle between the padres and Seattle all the other west coast teams were eliminated.
pleasepaypreacher.net
regardless of your stance on the As the movie Moneyball is incredible
I was in the bay area that year. Good times!
Also, the methodology behind Moneyball is still very sound.
Do not engage the Watermelons.
*spits*
Steam | XBL
Do not engage the Watermelons.
IIRC I think Lego Batman and Tropico are both repeats.
Steam | XBL
Looks like no, neither are repeats.
https://xbox.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Games_with_Gold
Of course, I already have them.
Do not engage the Watermelons.
but yeah, other than that, lol
he's also weirdly good in the 1 scene he is in annoyingly
I've only played Batman, so I'll grab the others, add then to the backlog.
I've not tried the Dungeons games, I'm looking forward to trying that.
HDR implementation is a made of artistic choice and implementation, and thus, can be good or bad.
As oppose to higher resolution, which is by definition higher fidelity. A game can look bad, but it's not because of it's higher resolution, it's because the game itself has inherent limitations or because at lower resolution it's too blurry of a mess to make out anything anyway. Higher resolutions can impede a much older game for that reason, in which case they're not good, but it's not like higher framerates don't actively harm games if they break their internal logic timing or change their controls in a bad rather than good way.
On the topic of "higher resolution" versus "higher framerate", unless you're sitting far from your screen, or have a small screen, 2160p at 60 hz clobbers 1080p at "about 120 hz". But at lower framerates, it's a much harder question. Faster refresh rates translating to a higher framerate can be a big advantage in control response--though when you quadruple your framerate, you're literally going to see small details (and large ones) you don't see otherwise. It's circumstantial.
EDIT: I'm spending a lot less time on the PA Forums, so I'm in no rush to make a new thread, but I'll do so eventually, not solely because I don't trust any of you jabronis to do it.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/midnight-club-los-angeles-complete/bv6wlxgs887c?activetab=pivot:overviewtab
Also works through BC on yer newer Xboxen.
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Knockout City is coming to game pass. This was the only game I was planning to buy anytime soon.
The beta was really fun, everyone should try it when it’s out.
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Nice. As someone that played way too much Super Dodgeball on the NES, this is right up my alley.
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Ooh, nifty -- I've wanted to try Midnight Club for a while now. It's arcade-style racing, yeah? Anything else I should know?
Is this a new BC release, or was it pulled for some reason?
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It's been BC for a while, but was removed from the store presumably due to licensing issues with the music and the cars.
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I want to play Halo 5 on PC, but was curious on performance/input lag.
I've got good internet, 1.5gbps up/down and stadia worked well but before subscribing and getting the android emulator going was curious on real world feedback.