At this point they could sell me a piece of cardboard for $900 and I'll gladly hand over cash for it.
EDIT; To be clear, this is not the card I want. The card I want is either the 6800 XT Nitro+ or the LE Red Devil. But since those cards don't exist this is what I bought.
I'll try my hand again at getting what I actually want down the road and then sell this one off to someone.
Again, assuming this card is real and BB doesn't fucking cancel it a few days from now.
Now if you'll excuse me I have several discords to unsub from, and one to give another donation to since it's the only one that got me any of the parts I was trying to get (ATR Stonks FYI)
Grats Thawmus! The nice thing about BB is they might delay fulfilling your order if they got too many, but they don't typically cancel completed orders. Unlike Newegg.
Had this ordered, with expected arrival in late january. Guess what showed up today! Early christmas present, woo!
Got this same card on Monday. Stopped in at my local store for some cables and went past the GPU counter and there were two sitting there. I had to do quite a bit of rearranging in my case to make it fit but man does it run smooth.
Because if you're going to attempt to squeeze that big black monster into your slot you will need to be able to take at least 12 inches or else you're going to have a bad time...
It seems to be stabilizing a bit in Canada maybe, around Winnipeg here we got quite a few people spotted getting stock/cards (mine this week included) and resellers popping up fresh again. Some in hand, some with delivery dates in January.
The AMD supply situation in Sweden is also a bit weird. My preferred retailer looks to have 100+ 5600x's for sale but every other zen3 is not only out of stock but also those queues have barely moved since launch. For instance the 5900x queue has only gotten through the first two minutes worth of launch day orders.
Yeah I'm pretty sure that when the next gen of products launch there'll still be the same ratfuckery. Even without covid, this is what buying in-demand products is going to look like now until someone has the impetus to stop it.
The AMD supply situation in Sweden is also a bit weird. My preferred retailer looks to have 100+ 5600x's for sale but every other zen3 is not only out of stock but also those queues have barely moved since launch. For instance the 5900x queue has only gotten through the first two minutes worth of launch day orders.
5800x and 5600x were both reeeeeasonably available while I was hunting in the UK. This was with me sat with a drops discord open on a 2nd screen while working though, so probably not a million miles behind a bot with any sane refresh rate.
Not so much as a hint of 5900x or 5950x, not a sausage.
There's definitely part of me that wishes I'd waited to get a 5900. I tend to wait a good 4 or 5 years between upgrades and I wonder if the extra cores will become a serious factor by then.
My MOBO (Aorus Master x570) arrived, thankfully its rev. 1.2.
Memory is shipping a little earlier than expected but the CPU 5950x from Wal-Mart has no updates as of yet.
I'm a 2080ti and I won't be swapping it until the 3080Ti comes out, at that time I'll redo my loop and add a second radiator. I'm mulling over what color fluid to run, I went with a very Thanos opaque purple last time, so far its held up well so I guess props to Mayhems Pastel.
The AMD supply situation in Sweden is also a bit weird. My preferred retailer looks to have 100+ 5600x's for sale but every other zen3 is not only out of stock but also those queues have barely moved since launch. For instance the 5900x queue has only gotten through the first two minutes worth of launch day orders.
5800x and 5600x were both reeeeeasonably available while I was hunting in the UK. This was with me sat with a drops discord open on a 2nd screen while working though, so probably not a million miles behind a bot with any sane refresh rate.
Not so much as a hint of 5900x or 5950x, not a sausage.
There's definitely part of me that wishes I'd waited to get a 5900. I tend to wait a good 4 or 5 years between upgrades and I wonder if the extra cores will become a serious factor by then.
I think 8c/16t will be ok in 4 years, in the same way that a 6c/6t is ok right now: it'll run the large majority of games that people actually play well enough, and it'll get the job done with the newer ones, but there will be a perceptible advantage to having more cores. But per-core performance will still be at least as important. Unless there's some big change in compilers and the way code is distributed*, there will always be a strong incentive for developers to target the left side of the bell curve in terms of core/thread count. (That's one reason that AMD were smart to make the console APUs 8c/16t, and to make 6c/12t and 8c/16t CPUs far cheaper - even with inflated Zen3 prices - than they were a few years ago. They've normalised 12+ thread CPUs)
Your mileage will vary depending on what kind of games you want to play, of course.
*eg: Microsoft implement a proper package manager with localised code compilation options so you can set your options to match your hardware.
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So I'm done with Cyberpunk, so I figure I want to see Witcher 3 maxed the f out on the new 3070.
So I load it up and... it's running at 5-10 fps during the opening intro. No exaggeration.
What the fuck.
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jungleroomxIt's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovelsRegistered Userregular
Fuck
Now it looks like I'm
*hrrrrrmph*
Reinstalling Shadow of the Tomb Raider
Thanks bunches, Geralt, you choppy stop motion fuck
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syndalisGetting ClassyOn the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Productsregular
Thanks bunches, Geralt, you choppy stop motion fuck
Wait on that one anyways.
Sometime mid next year, CDPR is doing a free update for PC to coincide with Witcher 3 getting the next gen console treatment, which will provide much better textures, better HDR, and Ray Tracing.
I've already played through the game twice, and I suspect a third visit is in my future once that comes out.
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Let's play Mario Kart or something...
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jungleroomxIt's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovelsRegistered Userregular
Thanks bunches, Geralt, you choppy stop motion fuck
Wait on that one anyways.
Sometime mid next year, CDPR is doing a free update for PC to coincide with Witcher 3 getting the next gen console treatment, which will provide much better textures, better HDR, and Ray Tracing.
I've already played through the game twice, and I suspect a third visit is in my future once that comes out.
If I can fix Witcher 3 playing like Cyberpunk on a base PS4 with a failing graphics card, yeah, I'll be all over that next gen stuff.
Shadow of the Tomb Raider sure is a pretty game, tho. Too bad the gameplay is fucking awful.
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syndalisGetting ClassyOn the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Productsregular
Thanks bunches, Geralt, you choppy stop motion fuck
Wait on that one anyways.
Sometime mid next year, CDPR is doing a free update for PC to coincide with Witcher 3 getting the next gen console treatment, which will provide much better textures, better HDR, and Ray Tracing.
I've already played through the game twice, and I suspect a third visit is in my future once that comes out.
If I can fix Witcher 3 playing like Cyberpunk on a base PS4 with a failing graphics card, yeah, I'll be all over that next gen stuff.
Shadow of the Tomb Raider sure is a pretty game, tho. Too bad the gameplay is fucking awful.
Something is wrong with your install, or setup then.
Witcher 3 played really well on my 16" macbook pro from 2019 at max settings, 3440x1440, there is no reason your machine shouldn't be running circles around it.
SW-4158-3990-6116
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
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jungleroomxIt's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovelsRegistered Userregular
Thanks bunches, Geralt, you choppy stop motion fuck
Wait on that one anyways.
Sometime mid next year, CDPR is doing a free update for PC to coincide with Witcher 3 getting the next gen console treatment, which will provide much better textures, better HDR, and Ray Tracing.
I've already played through the game twice, and I suspect a third visit is in my future once that comes out.
If I can fix Witcher 3 playing like Cyberpunk on a base PS4 with a failing graphics card, yeah, I'll be all over that next gen stuff.
Shadow of the Tomb Raider sure is a pretty game, tho. Too bad the gameplay is fucking awful.
Something is wrong with your install, or setup then.
Witcher 3 played really well on my 16" macbook pro from 2019 at max settings, 3440x1440, there is no reason your machine shouldn't be running circles around it.
Witcher 3 played like butter on my 2060.
I just went through Cyberpunk being closer to 60 than not, SoTTR about the same completely cranked, Monster Hunter never going below 60 even in the middle of a fight with a lot of effects, and Path of Exile sitting at a cool 100+.
Edit: Even Horizon Zero Dawn is 70+ with everything turned all the way the hell up, and Control is 60+ with RT and DLSS on consistently.
The AMD supply situation in Sweden is also a bit weird. My preferred retailer looks to have 100+ 5600x's for sale but every other zen3 is not only out of stock but also those queues have barely moved since launch. For instance the 5900x queue has only gotten through the first two minutes worth of launch day orders.
5800x and 5600x were both reeeeeasonably available while I was hunting in the UK. This was with me sat with a drops discord open on a 2nd screen while working though, so probably not a million miles behind a bot with any sane refresh rate.
Not so much as a hint of 5900x or 5950x, not a sausage.
There's definitely part of me that wishes I'd waited to get a 5900. I tend to wait a good 4 or 5 years between upgrades and I wonder if the extra cores will become a serious factor by then.
Scan are showing the 5800X in stock at the moment, for the low, low price of £430.
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jungleroomxIt's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovelsRegistered Userregular
The AMD supply situation in Sweden is also a bit weird. My preferred retailer looks to have 100+ 5600x's for sale but every other zen3 is not only out of stock but also those queues have barely moved since launch. For instance the 5900x queue has only gotten through the first two minutes worth of launch day orders.
5800x and 5600x were both reeeeeasonably available while I was hunting in the UK. This was with me sat with a drops discord open on a 2nd screen while working though, so probably not a million miles behind a bot with any sane refresh rate.
Not so much as a hint of 5900x or 5950x, not a sausage.
There's definitely part of me that wishes I'd waited to get a 5900. I tend to wait a good 4 or 5 years between upgrades and I wonder if the extra cores will become a serious factor by then.
Scan are showing the 5800X in stock at the moment, for the low, low price of £430.
That's not too far over RRP though right? Albeit it's overpriced for what it does compared to the other chips in the lineup.
My 60 fps in cyberpunk with all shinies on makes that particular bitter pill go down a little easier though
Update.
1440p Monitor showed up yesterday. Took it home. Set it up this morning, had 45 minutes to try it out. Just did some daily stuff in WoW.
Verdict so far: Pleased.
Not the first time I've seen above 60fps in person, but the first time I've been at the controls. Smooth. Can only notice any judder if i focus for it. Colours are vibrant. Can only detect colour banding if I look for it. I think I like the HDR? I know it's rating is not super high, but I think it looks better on. Raytracing in WoW I find to be 'meh', but I can only notice the performance hit in certain areas with lots of fires on screen at once.
Hit up the Greench, and had probably 40+ people all unloading at once. FPS counter dropped from 130 to barely above 60, but it didn't feel like. Guessing that's the Gsync.
Will test other games over the next few days, but I suspect I'll enjoy significant improvement.
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jungleroomxIt's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovelsRegistered Userregular
Update.
1440p Monitor showed up yesterday. Took it home. Set it up this morning, had 45 minutes to try it out. Just did some daily stuff in WoW.
Verdict so far: Pleased.
Not the first time I've seen above 60fps in person, but the first time I've been at the controls. Smooth. Can only notice any judder if i focus for it. Colours are vibrant. Can only detect colour banding if I look for it. I think I like the HDR? I know it's rating is not super high, but I think it looks better on. Raytracing in WoW I find to be 'meh', but I can only notice the performance hit in certain areas with lots of fires on screen at once.
Hit up the Greench, and had probably 40+ people all unloading at once. FPS counter dropped from 130 to barely above 60, but it didn't feel like. Guessing that's the Gsync.
Will test other games over the next few days, but I suspect I'll enjoy significant improvement.
Just know that any drop BELOW 60 fps is going to feel worse than any drop TO 60 fps. I dont care if its 300 to 60, that will feel better than 60 to 45.
After you get used to 100+ fps gaming, 60 can sometimes feel a bit iffy, but usually ignorable after a while if its constant.
Update.
1440p Monitor showed up yesterday. Took it home. Set it up this morning, had 45 minutes to try it out. Just did some daily stuff in WoW.
Verdict so far: Pleased.
Not the first time I've seen above 60fps in person, but the first time I've been at the controls. Smooth. Can only notice any judder if i focus for it. Colours are vibrant. Can only detect colour banding if I look for it. I think I like the HDR? I know it's rating is not super high, but I think it looks better on. Raytracing in WoW I find to be 'meh', but I can only notice the performance hit in certain areas with lots of fires on screen at once.
Hit up the Greench, and had probably 40+ people all unloading at once. FPS counter dropped from 130 to barely above 60, but it didn't feel like. Guessing that's the Gsync.
Will test other games over the next few days, but I suspect I'll enjoy significant improvement.
Just know that any drop BELOW 60 fps is going to feel worse than any drop TO 60 fps. I dont care if its 300 to 60, that will feel better than 60 to 45.
After you get used to 100+ fps gaming, 60 can sometimes feel a bit iffy, but usually ignorable after a while if its constant.
30 fps is something I just can't do anymore.
I think gsync helps a lot with this, sub 45 used to be unplayable but with gsync (or maybe age?) it's not unbearable. Definitely not preferred but it wasn't as god awful as it used to be.
Returning to our regularly scheduled programming, I wasted the entire 2 weeks I spent off for the holidays not being able to work on my 2004 Retro PC. The ASUS K8V Deluxe mobo didn't work and had all kinds of bizarre behavior. Posted only 1/4 the time, the rest I could hear capacitors gently discharging over the PC Speaker. The AGP slot caused the BIOS to beep a "Parity Error" code. It always boot into the BIOS instead of a boot device. The SATA ports only worked some of the time.
The ECS NForce3-A motherboard I ordered to replace it got lost in the mail.
Most recently I got a good deal on a Gigabyte KA GA-K8NSC-939 board with an included Athlon 3700+. Wasn't the socket I was aiming for, but it does have an AGP slot which is a must, and since the processor is included I'm not too bent out of shape about the socket.
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At this point they could sell me a piece of cardboard for $900 and I'll gladly hand over cash for it.
EDIT; To be clear, this is not the card I want. The card I want is either the 6800 XT Nitro+ or the LE Red Devil. But since those cards don't exist this is what I bought.
I'll try my hand again at getting what I actually want down the road and then sell this one off to someone.
Again, assuming this card is real and BB doesn't fucking cancel it a few days from now.
Now if you'll excuse me I have several discords to unsub from, and one to give another donation to since it's the only one that got me any of the parts I was trying to get (ATR Stonks FYI)
Inquisitor77: Rius, you are Sisyphus and melee Wizard is your boulder
Tube: This must be what it felt like to be an Iraqi when Saddam was killed
Bookish Stickers - Mrs. Rius' Etsy shop with bumper stickers and vinyl decals.
Gonna do wife's build with it once we can nab a 5600X.
Praise be to Best Buy, deliverer of technology
Inquisitor77: Rius, you are Sisyphus and melee Wizard is your boulder
Tube: This must be what it felt like to be an Iraqi when Saddam was killed
Bookish Stickers - Mrs. Rius' Etsy shop with bumper stickers and vinyl decals.
Praise Best Buy, the Not-Newegg of online stores.
Got this same card on Monday. Stopped in at my local store for some cables and went past the GPU counter and there were two sitting there. I had to do quite a bit of rearranging in my case to make it fit but man does it run smooth.
Probably well before the day V1m gets a 6800XT, if that's any comfort to you.
What an idiot
If it makes you feel better I've been thinking it'd probably stabilize sometime in January and I don't think that's going to age well...
I'm not wrong yet!
Yeah I'm kind of aimed at mid-late february, but I won't be surprised if I don't get one until after Easter. Whatevs, I won't die of it.
5800x and 5600x were both reeeeeasonably available while I was hunting in the UK. This was with me sat with a drops discord open on a 2nd screen while working though, so probably not a million miles behind a bot with any sane refresh rate.
Not so much as a hint of 5900x or 5950x, not a sausage.
There's definitely part of me that wishes I'd waited to get a 5900. I tend to wait a good 4 or 5 years between upgrades and I wonder if the extra cores will become a serious factor by then.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/pablocampy
Even my ancient HAF (and messy desk) looks halfway decent with a little ambient backlight.
--Mark Twain
Memory is shipping a little earlier than expected but the CPU 5950x from Wal-Mart has no updates as of yet.
I'm a 2080ti and I won't be swapping it until the 3080Ti comes out, at that time I'll redo my loop and add a second radiator. I'm mulling over what color fluid to run, I went with a very Thanos opaque purple last time, so far its held up well so I guess props to Mayhems Pastel.
I think 8c/16t will be ok in 4 years, in the same way that a 6c/6t is ok right now: it'll run the large majority of games that people actually play well enough, and it'll get the job done with the newer ones, but there will be a perceptible advantage to having more cores. But per-core performance will still be at least as important. Unless there's some big change in compilers and the way code is distributed*, there will always be a strong incentive for developers to target the left side of the bell curve in terms of core/thread count. (That's one reason that AMD were smart to make the console APUs 8c/16t, and to make 6c/12t and 8c/16t CPUs far cheaper - even with inflated Zen3 prices - than they were a few years ago. They've normalised 12+ thread CPUs)
Your mileage will vary depending on what kind of games you want to play, of course.
*eg: Microsoft implement a proper package manager with localised code compilation options so you can set your options to match your hardware.
So I load it up and... it's running at 5-10 fps during the opening intro. No exaggeration.
What the fuck.
Now it looks like I'm
*hrrrrrmph*
Reinstalling Shadow of the Tomb Raider
Thanks bunches, Geralt, you choppy stop motion fuck
Wait on that one anyways.
Sometime mid next year, CDPR is doing a free update for PC to coincide with Witcher 3 getting the next gen console treatment, which will provide much better textures, better HDR, and Ray Tracing.
I've already played through the game twice, and I suspect a third visit is in my future once that comes out.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
If I can fix Witcher 3 playing like Cyberpunk on a base PS4 with a failing graphics card, yeah, I'll be all over that next gen stuff.
Shadow of the Tomb Raider sure is a pretty game, tho. Too bad the gameplay is fucking awful.
Something is wrong with your install, or setup then.
Witcher 3 played really well on my 16" macbook pro from 2019 at max settings, 3440x1440, there is no reason your machine shouldn't be running circles around it.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
Witcher 3 played like butter on my 2060.
I just went through Cyberpunk being closer to 60 than not, SoTTR about the same completely cranked, Monster Hunter never going below 60 even in the middle of a fight with a lot of effects, and Path of Exile sitting at a cool 100+.
Edit: Even Horizon Zero Dawn is 70+ with everything turned all the way the hell up, and Control is 60+ with RT and DLSS on consistently.
I'll try to reinstall
Scan are showing the 5800X in stock at the moment, for the low, low price of £430.
Damn this game looks good on an HDR monitor.
That's not too far over RRP though right? Albeit it's overpriced for what it does compared to the other chips in the lineup.
My 60 fps in cyberpunk with all shinies on makes that particular bitter pill go down a little easier though
http://steamcommunity.com/id/pablocampy
1440p Monitor showed up yesterday. Took it home. Set it up this morning, had 45 minutes to try it out. Just did some daily stuff in WoW.
Verdict so far: Pleased.
Not the first time I've seen above 60fps in person, but the first time I've been at the controls. Smooth. Can only notice any judder if i focus for it. Colours are vibrant. Can only detect colour banding if I look for it. I think I like the HDR? I know it's rating is not super high, but I think it looks better on. Raytracing in WoW I find to be 'meh', but I can only notice the performance hit in certain areas with lots of fires on screen at once.
Hit up the Greench, and had probably 40+ people all unloading at once. FPS counter dropped from 130 to barely above 60, but it didn't feel like. Guessing that's the Gsync.
Will test other games over the next few days, but I suspect I'll enjoy significant improvement.
Just know that any drop BELOW 60 fps is going to feel worse than any drop TO 60 fps. I dont care if its 300 to 60, that will feel better than 60 to 45.
After you get used to 100+ fps gaming, 60 can sometimes feel a bit iffy, but usually ignorable after a while if its constant.
30 fps is something I just can't do anymore.
I think gsync helps a lot with this, sub 45 used to be unplayable but with gsync (or maybe age?) it's not unbearable. Definitely not preferred but it wasn't as god awful as it used to be.
The ECS NForce3-A motherboard I ordered to replace it got lost in the mail.
Most recently I got a good deal on a Gigabyte KA GA-K8NSC-939 board with an included Athlon 3700+. Wasn't the socket I was aiming for, but it does have an AGP slot which is a must, and since the processor is included I'm not too bent out of shape about the socket.
Fingers crossed on this one.