[MTG] Some call it bootlegging. Some call it racketeering. I call it Magic.

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  • initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    edited March 2022
    got together to play a friend's unpowered cube today and as someone that has done like 5 cube attempts in my life, I still don't know what i'm doing, but when that's the case, building green big bois seems to be a solid fallback and i went 3-0 with some fauna shaman + elvish piper shenanigans. Really it's just reinforcement that the reason i still even play this game is the gathering bits

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    Gotta say... I still have no interest in playing Alchemy but this weekend's Set Championship was a blast to watch.

  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Gotta say... I still have no interest in playing Alchemy but this weekend's Set Championship was a blast to watch.

    Midrange is just so much more fun to watch.

    Did not expect venture coming in so strong.

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Gotta say... I still have no interest in playing Alchemy but this weekend's Set Championship was a blast to watch.

    Midrange is just so much more fun to watch.

    Did not expect venture coming in so strong.

    Yeah if it had been a bunch of control mirrors I would've checked out for sure.

    Although I was rooting for Shota to make T8 to watch his crazy Jeskai Mill deck in action some more. Invoke Calamity into double Tasha's Hideous Laughter is amazing tech.

  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    Oh yes absolutely, always root for whoever brings the weirdest shit

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  • WearingglassesWearingglasses Of the friendly neighborhood variety Registered User regular
    I was cracking some Kamigawa set Booster packs, and I just noticed something.

    Did they change the smell of the packs, or are Set Boosters different from Draft Boosters??

  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    I guess Yuuya Watanabe has been banned from the game for cheating. Oh all the cheating scandals this hits me the hardest. I always root for him.

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  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    Technically I think he's currently unbanned? It was a 30 month suspension back in 2019. But, you know. Hard to come back to the game professionally after that.

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  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    Technically I think he's currently unbanned? It was a 30 month suspension back in 2019. But, you know. Hard to come back to the game professionally after that.

    So it was. Very curious why several magic players on my Twitter feed started talking about it today then. I assumed it must have just happened.

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  • WhippyWhippy Moderator, Admin Emeritus Admin Emeritus
    Technically I think he's currently unbanned? It was a 30 month suspension back in 2019. But, you know. Hard to come back to the game professionally after that.

    So it was. Very curious why several magic players on my Twitter feed started talking about it today then. I assumed it must have just happened.

    Michael David Lynch of the I hate your deck youtube channel was outed in early #metoo stuff that came back up recently when people put the dots together, which started a conversation about “pillars” of the “community” and how yuuya was a beloved one of those but collapsed the moment he was caught

  • milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    edited March 2022
    Whippy wrote: »
    Technically I think he's currently unbanned? It was a 30 month suspension back in 2019. But, you know. Hard to come back to the game professionally after that.

    So it was. Very curious why several magic players on my Twitter feed started talking about it today then. I assumed it must have just happened.

    Michael David Lynch of the I hate your deck youtube channel was outed in early #metoo stuff that came back up recently when people put the dots together, which started a conversation about “pillars” of the “community” and how yuuya was a beloved one of those but collapsed the moment he was caught

    Is he the current host of IHYD, or is he the former part of the pair who left?

    E: Dug into it, it's the current host, he was noted for having pressured an actress to film a topless scene for an independent film in 2016 and lied about what was going to be in the final cut of the film.

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  • Macro9Macro9 Registered User regular
    Well shit. I actually like that channel and supported them through Patreon. Gotta fix that now.

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  • KetarKetar Come on upstairs we're having a partyRegistered User regular
    milski wrote: »
    Whippy wrote: »
    Technically I think he's currently unbanned? It was a 30 month suspension back in 2019. But, you know. Hard to come back to the game professionally after that.

    So it was. Very curious why several magic players on my Twitter feed started talking about it today then. I assumed it must have just happened.

    Michael David Lynch of the I hate your deck youtube channel was outed in early #metoo stuff that came back up recently when people put the dots together, which started a conversation about “pillars” of the “community” and how yuuya was a beloved one of those but collapsed the moment he was caught

    Is he the current host of IHYD, or is he the former part of the pair who left?

    E: Dug into it, it's the current host, he was noted for having pressured an actress to film a topless scene for an independent film in 2016 and lied about what was going to be in the final cut of the film.

    Not in the final cut - I've seen the movie and she never appears topless in it. It sounds like the topless version of the scene was included at a screening and changed after she saw it and confronted him about it.

    Still disappointing to read, IHYD is the only MtG content I still watched and it had been a lot of fun lately.

  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    KalTorak wrote: »
    dafuq, they're making more of these poops?

    Yes, they said they were going to right up front. For every Standard set.

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    dafuq, they're making more of these poops?

    Yes, they said they were going to right up front. For every Standard set.

    Fuck

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    And print all of them at rare and mythic, of course

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  • LucedesLucedes might be real Registered User regular
    hahaha

    oh man

    good thing i'm outta magic forever or that would be rough

  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    turtleant wrote: »
    And print all of them at rare and mythic, of course

    They didn't do that last time and they're not doing that now.

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    Probably still no commons, though.

  • initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    It’s funny it’s not like I was ever grinding the scg tour but them ending that and coverage of their events just made me not care about these cons. We do have a local group doing 5k+ events in a yearly series and it’s funny how much that simple add makes it feel like something worth going to

  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    yeah i play a little arena but ultimately magic was a social game for me and big events were a part of that

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  • BoomerAang SquadBoomerAang Squad Registered User regular
    Free gold in the store today!

  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited March 2022
    also if you join the "Into the Future" Alchemy event then you get 1000 XP right at the top. You don't have to play any games, just join the event.

    edit: also everything on the iPad version of the client is now gigantic. I suspect the latest patch swapped in the iPhone version or something.

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  • XeddicusXeddicus Registered User regular
    edited March 2022
    Oh look, another reason to hate Alchemy- the damn choose spellbook cards slow people down even more!

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  • jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    So the MTG Arena economy stream happened today over at Daily MTG.

    They confirmed that they aren't going to add a dusting system, and they aren't going to add a way to convert common/uncommon wildcards to rare ones because "Arena gives out too many uncommon wildcards."

    But you'll be able to buy a pack of 12 rare + 4 mythic wildcards for $50. :disappointed:

  • milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    edited March 2022
    Not having dusting or a way to convert are fine. The economy being balanced around dusting or wildcard conversion just means everything gets balanced around the median of "dust almost everything", so you get less incidental maybe useful stuff later because it all turns to dust. People only want a dusting system because they imagine it'd be tacked on to the current system or more generous, or because they realize it sells better than just saying "give us more stuff" directly.

    Selling a wildcard pack that's literally like, one rare WC and one mythic WC better than just buying 50 packs, without the part where you get 50 packs of cards attached, is insane. Laughably pathetic offering.

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  • admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    jgeis wrote: »
    So the MTG Arena economy stream happened today over at Daily MTG.

    They confirmed that they aren't going to add a dusting system, and they aren't going to add a way to convert common/uncommon wildcards to rare ones because "Arena gives out too many uncommon wildcards."

    But you'll be able to buy a pack of 12 rare + 4 mythic wildcards for $50. :disappointed:

    If they just silently added this pack in an update it would be met with some critical comments but largely passed over.

    But announcing it in a stream that players assumed would be about adjusting the economy to be more friendly is some there’s-a-guy-with-a-gun-just-off-screen-send-help shit.

  • turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    jgeis wrote: »
    So the MTG Arena economy stream happened today over at Daily MTG.

    They confirmed that they aren't going to add a dusting system, and they aren't going to add a way to convert common/uncommon wildcards to rare ones because "Arena gives out too many uncommon wildcards."

    But you'll be able to buy a pack of 12 rare + 4 mythic wildcards for $50. :disappointed:

    Fuckin

    Amazing

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    edited March 2022
    Xeddicus wrote: »
    Oh look, another reason to hate Alchemy- the damn choose spellbook cards slow people down even more!

    I don't think seek does what you think it does.

    Weird I had the unedited post cached or something.

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  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    edited March 2022
    As someone who's seen most of his decks rotate out and does not want to play Alchemy, Arena seems like its dead for me unless I drop $$$

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    KalTorak wrote: »
    also if you join the "Into the Future" Alchemy event then you get 1000 XP right at the top. You don't have to play any games, just join the event.

    It said I got 2000. Not sure if a visual bug or bonus points.

  • Lord DaveLord Dave Grief Causer Bitch Free ZoneRegistered User regular
    Xeddicus wrote: »
    Oh look, another reason to hate Alchemy- the damn choose spellbook cards slow people down even more!

    I vaguely like Alchemy, but I hate those things.
    I don't want to have to remember all 500 things you might get if I let you play that 2/2! And I don't want to wait for you to figure it out either!

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  • initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    I already uninstalled arena when alchemy was announced so I don’t want to harp on it.

    But I do think it’s hilarious that they’re announcing a new bridge to pioneer format because they already had messed that up because they decided monetizing historic was more important.

    It’s just all treadmill at this point with wotc just eating the carrot in front of us.

  • MatevMatev Cero Miedo Registered User regular
    The problem is they fobbed the problem off for so long that anything short of free wildcards or gifting sets after they rotate out was pretty much gonna be panned. The fact they had their vaunted "economy stream" almost impromptu and it was to announce such an anemic offer is them basically going "shut up and feed our bottom line plebs" and trying to coast on the brand/sunk cost fallacy rather than actually try and make a competitive product.

    It's almost impressive in it's contempt and arrogance.

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  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
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  • NeveronNeveron HellValleySkyTree SwedenRegistered User regular
    Making it even worth, it's not even the best way to spend $50 on not-so-micro microtransactions:

  • milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    I think Frank is incorrect on the prevalence of mythic rare and rare wcs from the wheel and overestimating them. The icr bundle is slightly better than packs if you truly, truly do not care about your packs.

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    milski wrote: »
    I think Frank is incorrect on the prevalence of mythic rare and rare wcs from the wheel and overestimating them. The icr bundle is slightly better than packs if you truly, truly do not care about your packs.

    Calling out Frank Karsten on his math is a bold strategy.

  • milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    milski wrote: »
    I think Frank is incorrect on the prevalence of mythic rare and rare wcs from the wheel and overestimating them. The icr bundle is slightly better than packs if you truly, truly do not care about your packs.

    Calling out Frank Karsten on his math is a bold strategy.

    Rares upgrade to mythics 1/8 of the time in packs, so having half as many mythic WCs as rares drops does not make sense on the face of it.

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  • KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    That 50$ number feels like they wanted to keep the pricing at something they felt would be reasonable in paper magic for some reason?

    Like 50 bucks to pick up any 12 paper rares and 4 mythics would be a steal, even just choosing from the pool of rares available in arena

    But in arena it feels pretty stingy

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