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  • Ninja Snarl PNinja Snarl P My helmet is my burden. Ninja Snarl: Gone, but not forgotten.Registered User regular
    I would point out the problem that they would inevitably go cheap on a remote kill switch and the security would be terrible and thus they would constantly end up with their cars getting shut down by criminals, except that would keep cops from driving around and that wouldn't really be a problem at all. Then if they wanted to make a murder scene, they'd have to actually walk there first.

    And no more hauling female crime victims out of public sight in the back of the car and sexually assaulting them.

  • VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    Calica wrote: »
    Does police negligence fit here?
    https://www.wisn.com/article/four-charged-in-milwaukee-freeway-chase-police-shooting/61407627
    A gun was recovered in the vehicle. According to the complaint, that gun was a service weapon for a Waukesha County sheriff's deputy, stolen from his personal car outside his cousin's home on Brady Street Milwaukee in September.

    Okay, well, cops aren't magically immune to -
    The deputy’s gear, including his badge, was also in the car, which he left running unattended. The car was recovered three months later, but the gun was gone. Investigators believe that gun was used in numerous other carjackings in the days since, until it was recovered Thursday at the crash scene.

    For fuck's sake.

    This is a Thing people in the upper Midwest do. They just leave the car running and unlocked when going into the convenience store to grab something. It used to be everyone did this, but it is much less common now.

  • AtomikaAtomika Live fast and get fucked or whatever Registered User regular
    spool32 wrote: »
    Chiming in to say that the best place to buy hard drugs in downtown Austin has always been within about 2 blocks of the 8th St police station.

    So by reducing the common denominators, the second-best place to buy hard drugs is within one block of the 4th Street police station?


    Meaning the third-best place to buy hard drugs is inside the 2nd Street police station?! 😵‍💫

  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    spool32 wrote: »
    Chiming in to say that the best place to buy hard drugs in downtown Austin has always been within about 2 blocks of the 8th St police station.

    There was a gas station a couple of blocks from my old house that I didn't stop at once the entire time I lived there. Obvious drug dealers, fights, two or three murders I know of in four years.

    A major police station was two blocks south on the same road.

  • ChiselphaneChiselphane Registered User regular
    Tomanta wrote: »
    spool32 wrote: »
    Chiming in to say that the best place to buy hard drugs in downtown Austin has always been within about 2 blocks of the 8th St police station.

    There was a gas station a couple of blocks from my old house that I didn't stop at once the entire time I lived there. Obvious drug dealers, fights, two or three murders I know of in four years.

    A major police station was two blocks south on the same road.

    In the late 90s, a quirk of the way a East Hartford CT police station was situated led to a prostitute stroll organically developing along its back street without them even being aware of it, although they did catch on after a while.

  • ChiselphaneChiselphane Registered User regular
    Veevee wrote: »
    Calica wrote: »
    Does police negligence fit here?
    https://www.wisn.com/article/four-charged-in-milwaukee-freeway-chase-police-shooting/61407627
    A gun was recovered in the vehicle. According to the complaint, that gun was a service weapon for a Waukesha County sheriff's deputy, stolen from his personal car outside his cousin's home on Brady Street Milwaukee in September.

    Okay, well, cops aren't magically immune to -
    The deputy’s gear, including his badge, was also in the car, which he left running unattended. The car was recovered three months later, but the gun was gone. Investigators believe that gun was used in numerous other carjackings in the days since, until it was recovered Thursday at the crash scene.

    For fuck's sake.

    This is a Thing people in the upper Midwest do. They just leave the car running and unlocked when going into the convenience store to grab something. It used to be everyone did this, but it is much less common now.

    Super common in southeast Missouri including the cops. A few years ago I delivered pizza for some extra money and the local jail was a frequent customer. Every time I'd deliver, there was at least one patrol car in the lot running unattended, sometimes multiple. One particularly memorable time someone was being booked and the guy was yelling at them about wasting taxpayer money 'You didnt even shut the car off when you took me in' etc etc. The police were... not amused.

  • spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User, Transition Team regular
    edited June 27
    Atomika wrote: »
    spool32 wrote: »
    Chiming in to say that the best place to buy hard drugs in downtown Austin has always been within about 2 blocks of the 8th St police station.

    So by reducing the common denominators, the second-best place to buy hard drugs is within one block of the 4th Street police station?


    Meaning the third-best place to buy hard drugs is inside the 2nd Street police station?! 😵‍💫

    I mean the math checks out.

    spool32 on
  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    Veevee wrote: »
    Calica wrote: »
    Does police negligence fit here?
    https://www.wisn.com/article/four-charged-in-milwaukee-freeway-chase-police-shooting/61407627
    A gun was recovered in the vehicle. According to the complaint, that gun was a service weapon for a Waukesha County sheriff's deputy, stolen from his personal car outside his cousin's home on Brady Street Milwaukee in September.

    Okay, well, cops aren't magically immune to -
    The deputy’s gear, including his badge, was also in the car, which he left running unattended. The car was recovered three months later, but the gun was gone. Investigators believe that gun was used in numerous other carjackings in the days since, until it was recovered Thursday at the crash scene.

    For fuck's sake.

    This is a Thing people in the upper Midwest do. They just leave the car running and unlocked when going into the convenience store to grab something. It used to be everyone did this, but it is much less common now.

    Super common in southeast Missouri including the cops. A few years ago I delivered pizza for some extra money and the local jail was a frequent customer. Every time I'd deliver, there was at least one patrol car in the lot running unattended, sometimes multiple. One particularly memorable time someone was being booked and the guy was yelling at them about wasting taxpayer money 'You didnt even shut the car off when you took me in' etc etc. The police were... not amused.

    But how did they tip?

  • Casual EddyCasual Eddy The Astral PlaneRegistered User regular
    Burtletoy wrote: »
    2023 study from Canada after a station was closed

    https://crimesciencejournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40163-023-00193-4
    While tests suggest that crime geographic patterns were dissimilar pre- and post-closure, none of those differences support the deterrence hypothesis because the number of areas in which an increase in crime was recorded is lower than would be expected by chance. Similarly, decreases in breaking and entering, mischief, theft in or on vehicles and total crime were found, which does not support the deterrence hypothesis.

    ...

    Despite general acceptance of the idea that there is causal link between the number of police stations and crime, there is no clear empirical evidence to support this view.

    I don’t believe this! In every sim city game putting in a police station immediately lowers crime and sim city would never lie to me!!!

  • BurtletoyBurtletoy Registered User regular
    Did you read the simcity article at wired that came out literally today?

    It pretty interesting!

    https://www.wired.com/story/simcity-libertarian-toy-land/

  • Phoenix-DPhoenix-D Registered User regular
    https://www.kuow.org/stories/auburn-police-officer-found-guilty-of-murder
    https://apnews.com/article/police-shooting-murder-trial-law-enforcement-42722f3b1568176b4750bc4b9643866e

    Apparently the THIRD TIME is the charm for convincting murderous cops around here. This one got into a fight, shot the victim in the stomach. After the victim fell he aimed the gun, fired. The gun jammed. He cleared it and fired again into the victim's head.
    Before that though..
    Prior to fatally shooting Sarey, Nelson killed Isaiah Obet in 2017. Obet was acting erratically, and Nelson ordered his police dog to attack. He then shot Obet in the torso. Obet fell to the ground, and Nelson fired again, fatally shooting Obet in the head.
    In 2011, Nelson fatally shot Brian Scaman, a Vietnam War veteran with mental issues and a history of felonies, after pulling Scaman’s vehicle over for a burned-out headlight. Scaman got out of his car with a knife and refused to drop it; Nelson shot him in the head. An inquest jury cleared Nelson of wrongdoing.

  • Martini_PhilosopherMartini_Philosopher Registered User regular
    Speaking of police seeing getting to see the inside of the system for a change, the Uvalde police officers stationed in the school at the time of the shooting have been brought up on charges.

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/27/us/uvalde-grand-jury-indictments-police-chief-officer/index.html
    Former Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District Police Chief Pete Arredondo and former school police officer Adrian Gonzales were named in the indictments, which represent the first criminal charges filed in the school massacre.

    Arredondo surrendered himself to the custody of the Texas Rangers in Uvalde on Thursday, an official with the Texas Department of Public Safety told CNN. The former chief was booked on 10 counts of child endangerment and known criminal negligence, according to an official at the Uvalde County Jail.

    Arredondo was then released on bond, according to the jail.

    The indictments against the two officers were not immediately available from the Uvalde County District Court clerk’s office.

    Arredondo and Gonzales face felony charges of abandoning and endangering a child, Uvalde District Attorney Christina Mitchell told the Uvalde Leader-News.

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Sadly, that's going to get tossed swiftly because SCOTUS already ruled you can't hold them accountable for not doing their jobs.

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  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Sadly, that's going to get tossed swiftly because SCOTUS already ruled you can't hold them accountable for not doing their jobs.

    There is one exception: if they are under a contract says they have a requirement to act they can be charged for not acting. Officers assigned to schools or airports are covered by more than just their contract with their department, but the contract with the location they are assigned to. Those contracts are usually based on security/safety officer contracts rather than law enforcement contracts, which almost always DO contain a requirement to act.

    The dozens of officers milling around outside assaulting parents can't be charged but any officers actually assigned to the school likely can be.

  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited July 8
    https://www.davisvanguard.org/2024/07/newspaper-raid-by-kansas-police-results-in-chief-resigning-235000-judgement-for-reporter/

    Remember the newspaper illegally raided by police? (The one in Kansas since this happened way too many times last year). The first of several lawsuits has settled. A reporter who was not named in the warrant whose personal belongings were searched and phone seized (and returned broken) has gotten $235,000.

    There are still lawsuits from the newspaper, it's owner, and the city council member whose house was also raided that day. This is going to be a very expensive mistake for such a tiny town.

    Hevach on
  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    Glad the reporter is getting money, it's not nearly enough. Especially if no one loses their badge and spends time in jail.

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  • amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    and like, fuck, that should be the point of a city, to have the money to pay restitution for wrongs.

    But also fucking fire the cops and have them charged.

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  • Gnome-InterruptusGnome-Interruptus Registered User regular
    MorganV wrote: »
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    Glad the reporter is getting money, it's not nearly enough. Especially if no one loses their badge and spends time in jail.

    This is key with this kind of shit. Because the money is being paid by the city, which basically means the taxpayer.

    You see it all the time with Republican legislators. Pass bill saying everyone must worship Jesus. Immediately sued. Use taxpayer resources to fight it. Use taxpayer resources to settle any claims. Get re-elected, and repeat.

    Fines and settlements do not work as a disincentive, if the person acting illegally/unconstitutionally isn't the one paying the price (either financially or electorally).

    Don’t forget that Republicans also want to limit how much claimants can sue for, both because they are often the perpetrators and also that frequently Democrats are found among civil trial lawyers.

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  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited August 7
    New happenings in the saga of the blatantly illegal police raid on a Kansas newspaper.

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/06/us/kansas-police-chief-newspaper-charge/index.html

    Lawsuits are still happening but the former chief of police will be charged with obstruction of justice related to his collusion with a restaurant owner (who the target paper alleged had corruptly obtained a liquor license) to conceal their text message conversations that are the subject of an ongoing FOIA battle.


    Edit: also as a fun fact, that restaurant owner was forced to shutter two of her businesses in the backlash, and lost a contract to operate the restaurant inside a historic hotel. It seems like the town is having absolutely none of this shit.

    Hevach on
  • Martini_PhilosopherMartini_Philosopher Registered User regular
    The federal judge has thrown out charges against two of the Louisville officers in the unlawful death of Breonna Taylor. The judge has instead decided to blame her boyfriend for firing his gun only after the cops open fired on the couple, who were sleeping when the raid happened.
    CBS News wrote:
    U.S. District Judge Charles Simpson's ruling declared that the actions of Taylor's boyfriend, who fired a shot at police the night of the raid, were the legal cause of her death, not a bad warrant.

    Federal charges against former Louisville Police Detective Joshua Jaynes and former Sgt. Kyle Meany were announced by U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland in 2022 during a high-profile visit to Louisville. Garland accused Jaynes and Meany, who were not present at the raid, of knowing they had falsified part of the warrant and put Taylor in a dangerous situation by sending armed officers to her apartment.

    But Simpson wrote in the Tuesday ruling that "there is no direct link between the warrantless entry and Taylor's death." Simpson's ruling effectively reduced the civil rights violation charges against Jaynes and Meany, which had carried a maximum sentence of life in prison, to misdemeanors.

    Which is at the very minimum a completely outrageous conclusion to come to. According to the same article, there is recorded evidence of the two men colluding after the fact on what they told investigators.

    Judge Charles Simpson was appointed in 1986 by Ronald Reagan, has been an advisor to Mitch McConnell, and has been considered a senior Judge since 2013. If you were wondering what kind of politics the man practices, there you go. Or the fact that he probably should have retired a decade or more ago. Another example of where the judiciary should have some hard caps on the age of jurists.

    Likewise if you feel like this was issued on a Friday morning, on purpose, I feel the same way. This is likely to get buried by the upcoming Labor day weekend and amongst the end of the DNC party this week.

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  • Mad IronMad Iron Registered User regular
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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    So we have reached the point in legal logic where it is your reaction to police behavior that is to blame for police behavior, including any police behavior that lead to their interacting with you in the first place

  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Not exactly new. Retroactively justifying an illegal arrest because someone didn't quietly allow the pigs to violate their rights is pretty old.

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  • proxy_hueproxy_hue Registered User regular
    https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/05/us/fontana-pressured-murder-confession/index.html

    I'd heard about this case, but the additional stuff revealed by this investigation is just. horrifying.
    Tom Perez called the local police non-emergency line to report his elderly father missing. Thirty-six hours later, Perez was on a psychiatric hold in a hospital, having been pressured into confessing he killed his dad and trying to take his own life.

    His father was alive and there had been no murder.

    No one told Perez. Instead, police continued investigating him, looking for a victim who did not exist.

    A particular quote from the former police officer they interviewed as an expert on procedure:
    “When you go over the line and you engage in deceptive action that would cause an innocent person to confess to a crime they didn’t commit, that’s where the line is crossed,” he said.

    “And certainly, when you’re threatening somebody by telling them that they’re going to have to pay up to a million dollars in restitution by not telling you what had occurred, telling them you’re going to have to euthanize their dog if you don’t confess — that is not edging closer to the line, that’s leaping over the line.”

    This whole thing is horrible so y'know. read on your own recognizance. But the main thing that struck me about this is it seems like they are getting bored of just shooting folks for bothering to call for help, and now they're getting creative with their horrors. Abolish the police.

  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Yeah CNN has been able to do a much deeper investigation into it, so there's plenty more disturbing and infuriating details than when the incident was first reported on.

  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    Honestly the worst part: his lawyer didn't believe him initially.

    A lawyer that's won millions for his clients suing the LAPD, who has seen them commit torture, kidnapping, and arson, who has seen them threaten judges and forge their signatures, who has seen them try to steal from the national guard and sell badges to known gang members... Honestly believed this was too much even for them.

    And it was so much worse than that.

  • klemmingklemming Registered User regular
    Hevach wrote: »
    Honestly the worst part: his lawyer didn't believe him initially.

    A lawyer that's won millions for his clients suing the LAPD, who has seen them commit torture, kidnapping, and arson, who has seen them threaten judges and forge their signatures, who has seen them try to steal from the national guard and sell badges to known gang members... Honestly believed this was too much even for them.

    And it was so much worse than that.

    There's that line from Matilda; if you're going to be cruel, be so outlandishly absurdly cruel that no-one will believe it when they hear it.

    Nobody remembers the singer. The song remains.
  • Phoenix-DPhoenix-D Registered User regular
    edited September 14
    https://apnews.com/article/elijah-mcclain-paramedic-sentence-probation-ketamine-9714cd7113c1bfead80714c0dbe461b9

    The paramedic who murdered Elijah McClain with ketamine was released today because, quote "he made a split second decision"

    Funny how that applies to a lot of crimes but never gets cited much except to defend these assholes.

    Also drawing and injecting FIVE HUNDRED MILLIGRAMS of ketamine isn't exactly a split second action

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  • MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
  • GnizmoGnizmo Registered User regular
    Magell wrote: »
    NYPD killed a guy for evading a fare. They also shot one of their coworkers and two civilians.

    https://x.com/CBSNewYork/status/1835466719546032331?t=nK-JZnbhcMZIX7anQok3CQ&s=09

    Do you figure they still try to charge him with felony murder for the cop being shot?

  • AtomikaAtomika Live fast and get fucked or whatever Registered User regular
    “Wounded officer expected to make full recovery,” is a hell of a whitewashing there, CBS

    “One dead, three others hospitalized with gunshot wounds after reckless cops lose their shit on a schizophrenic turnstile jumper,” is both fair and more accurate

  • IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    And all for something that should just be paid through taxes.

  • AtomikaAtomika Live fast and get fucked or whatever Registered User regular
    You know what they do in Seattle if you don’t pay at a turnstile or bus stop?

    Nothing.


    They get mad at you for even holding up the line and usher you in without pay just to keep things moving.

  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    The fare evaded was $2.50.

    Definitely worth committing a mass shooting. /s

  • GnizmoGnizmo Registered User regular
    So potentially they spent more to kill him and injure 3 others than it would have cost just to buy the ticket?

  • minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field ---Registered User, Transition Team regular
    um, actually it's $2.90 now.

    which is well over the "we better kill this criminal and a couple other people while we're at it" line.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    um, actually it's $2.90 now.

    which is well over the "we better kill this criminal and a couple other people while we're at it" line.

    I mean, yeah obviously. A loaf of bread is only like, 2 bucks.

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  • HydropoloHydropolo Registered User regular
    Heck, the rounds may have been $3 (I have no idea how many were fired)

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