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[Elden Ring] Shadow of the Erd Tree OUT NOW
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This is a new thread to discuss Elden Ring.
Mark your spoilers, people get antsy about those things.
e: OP finished game so open spoilers now
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I'd go for blood type but that seems to not scale so well with DEX
What platform? If you are on PC I'll lend my Katanas in the effort to get yours.
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real dumb fight
I think I'm a little early into this area ~just under level 70, so maybe I'll just have to wait until I get sturdier Ash Summons (rn I have a couple Legendaries but only +3) -- come to think of it I haven't gotten a single Ash Summon that does what I think would be Striking Damage so maybe that would be the ticket.
About this:
it could just be he's cursed and does something spooky to them, or him killing them does something to their souls which impacts them when they re-enter the reincarnation cycle or whatever. although its interesting in reading his armor lore that he's not an omen himself, so IDK
Re Radagon/Marika
It seems like a Dragonball situation
Coupled with the message that gets displayed when you use the gesture in front of the statue the game is definitely outright saying they're the same person. Why do they seem to have such opposing goals? I mean Marika is a god that is diametrically opposed to the very force giving her godhood. There's a lot of room for reasons: it could be a ruse, maybe the greater will and the fingers don't know they're the same. It could be a genuine second personality. I think it's ambiguous on purpose to fuel speculation.
“Radagon is marika” has so many interpretations that are not just literally the same person
Spoilers but like, nothing past or even inside Stormveil:
First off, through the power of valiantly running past everything I got to Margit. Got him down to 25% on the first try. Which bodes well considering I forgot to use a Golden Seed and so shall have ANOTHER FP bar of nonsense to throw at him.
Other notables: Discovered the forest of bears by the minor Erdtree, decided to leave well enough alone.
Discovered the secret underground hell city with crabs and insta gib lightning orbs. Can't really interact with it but it was pretty to run through on torrentback and loot like four levels of golden runes for free.
Fought the invader who drops a bleed knife and requires you to be rescued by a counter invader NPC. Fun little fight where, once you hear the voice line, you know it's not about winning but about running the clock out.
And yeah, found Patches, spared him. Mostly because that fight becomes comical as a caster due to how long his 'drop shield to blow stuff atcha' animation is.
In addition, according to the Mask of Confidence, the reason why preceptors like Seluvis and Miriam wear those masks that have sewn mouths is because when Radagon married Rennala, Radagon told them "hey, you might see some things, but you better Shut The Fuck Up".
2) i think one of the reasons Marika grew so opposed to the Golden Order and the Greater Will is that it forced her into the feminine role. The Will, The Order, the Tree - it's all about constant, harmonic growth (unlike the Formless Mother which is entropic, the Frenzied Flame which is chaotic, and the Moon which emphasises a progress that allows for both waxing and waning, decay and renewal)[. As a tree must bear fruit so does Marika keep having children, with or without a partner; with or without her consent. Radagon, the masculine emenation/psychic embodiment of them, has no reason to be disloyal to the order, but to Marika this put upon gendered role is a prison she wishes to break
why the ruse regarding the second Consort? That's what isn't clear to me. If they truly are the same person, it seems like they found true love with Rennala; why abandon it? And if they are separate, is this a case of Marika being spiteful of Radagon's happiness? She clearly does not need a lord in order to rule, does she?
oh
I think I got it
and the ruse? To force them to go. If Radagon is officially and publicly called upon by Marika to be her consort, a refusal would be tantamount to treason, a restart of the war. They couldn't refuse without endangering Caria
But the Empyreans are faulty, a result of the curse of the fire giants - not merely abnormal expressions of natural growth (omens/misbegotten) but downright mutations: Malenia and her rot, Miquella and his youth, etc. Marika/Radagon's sense of duty prevented them from passing the Ring to them, and so they remained trapped
Radagon
Which didn't work out
One is the ring-shatterer and the other one the (attempted) mender
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I believe Marika sensed this and was trying to stop it from happening, and that's why she made off with the Death Rune (to buy the usually short-lived humans more time to figure an out)
Godwyn the Golden was her clear (only viable) successor from her first brood, but he was likely only going to be another blind tool of the Greater Will, so she needed a different option to change things. I believe she had pre-picked Rennala as a consort long before Radagon ever went to war to get her attention, hoping star-touched kids might help find a way to subvert the Greater Will's hold on the planet (and she would've been right: all three find unique ways to operate outside the Greater Will)
I think Radagon is a tulpa of Marika. If you consider Marika like a tree, think of Radagon like a cutting from one of her branches, replanted elsewhere. Yeah, it's of Marika, but a certain part of Marika, an earlier part of her: masculine, a fierce warrior just like her Black Knife brother, and still convinced of the "holy purpose" of Marika's existence and the Elden Ring. It's possible Radagon didn't even really start out knowing what he was, he was simply created and pointed in a direction with a mission for the Golden Order
I believe the Greater Will tarnished Godfrey in part to "get back" at Marika, for trying to break out of the Golden Order. Plus, almost the moment the reign of Giants is ending (by Godfrey's hand), the Greater Will starts "tarnishing" humanity, suggesting they're next on the chopping block, because the Greater Will bores easily
I think at the end of the day, Radagon really loved Rennala, and Marika really loved Godrick, and they resented the circumstances (ie. The Greater Will's meddling) that drove them apart. The only way to end their cycle of servitude was to produce a proper successor, so they kept trying (because what else), but it became apparent that the incestuous union mainly produced spoiled fruit. Miquella and Godwyn were two options that would've at least released Marika from being an avatar for the Greater Will (if not actually releasing humanity or fixing anything long term), but when both of them were removed from the picture, she finally broke down: said fuck it, everything I try makes things worse, someone else can sort this all out, and shattered the ring. Radagon stayed and tried to repair it, because to him the Golden Order can't fail, only be failed
Also Raptor of the Mists lets you phase through chariots
Also you cannot kill the chariots in this one. But one of them is missing a rider.
Oh no, I finished it. But...
But I've got it to the final choice seemingly, between her and the Witch Hunter, and well, they both seem pretty bad?