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  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    tynic wrote: »
    Doodmann wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    What if the moon was actually a hollow superstructure with a tiny star and robot aliens inside of it though

    Still gonna cause the global flood as it gets closer to Earth until the gravitational forces cause it to crumble into pieces long before it ever reaches the planet. After that it's even odds between it coalescing into a stable ring around the planet or finishing off whatever is left alive as fireballs rain down around the world.

    According to SEVENEVES is does the latter in establishing the former.

    Delightfully nuts book

    I will quibble with you on "delightfully".

    Yep, in classic Stephenson fashion it started off somewhat earnest only to devolve into handwavey sciencey sounding stuff before just abruptly ending.

  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    Oh you're bored with Stephenson Female Protagonist? What about 6 of them?

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  • Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    Orca wrote: »
    Cambiata wrote: »
    Elaro wrote: »
    Orca wrote: »
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    Goddamned Monday again, what the hell

    yeah who's fucking idea was this

    When I find out whose fault it is, they're gonna pay.

    Presumably Neolithic humans?

    No, Monday comes from the Anglo-Saxon word "mondandaeg" which means "The Moon's Day." So you have your choice of blaming Ancient Brittons or the Moon.

    So what you're saying is

    we need to blow up the moon

    it somehow always comes back to that

    That son of a bitch has it comin’

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    Topical

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  • exisexis Registered User regular
    edited April 2022
    Athenor wrote: »
    exis wrote: »
    exis wrote: »
    We've all just been invited to a "priority" all-of-company meeting in 3 hours, followed up by a message from our senior manager that our team needs to attend, and will get together to discuss afterward.

    I can only assume this is about huge pay rises and bonuses for everybody.

    Company-wide reduction of 20%. Impacted people will hear from their manager by the end of today, and will be finishing this Friday. Fuck.

    Jesus.

    Hoping for the best for you.

    Thanks. It was only recently that I was talking in the last thread about getting itchy feet so this might not be the worst thing, particularly since the job market is good right now.

    Had a 1:1 with the boss (entire team is doing the same). Basically he has pitched 2 restructure options up the chain, which would have different numbers of redundancies (though some are inevitable). There won't be confirmation on which option is selected until then, so until then it's lips sealed on who the potential redundancies are. But it seems like it'll basically be on Friday that we find out both what the new structure is and who's not in it.

    I feel like I'm a likely candidate for redundancy, and I probably wouldn't mind. Even if I weren't, this points to larger issues within the company (which is all about zero-profit, high growth, so the fact that we're shrinking for the first time is Bad News). I'm ready to start looking around. This just leaves me in an awkward position because on the off-chance that I'm not made redundant, then I'm potentially taking the role of somebody else, only to maybe leave once I find something else. Ideally I would just tell my boss I'll take voluntary redundancy, get my severance package and GTFO. But I have a family to support and I don't really want to risk losing a stable income if I can avoid it.

    TL;DR time to update my CV.

    exis on
  • AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    I was thinking the same thing as I was reading. If there's any way you can arrange for a solid severance, that would be the best path. But I also get the family protection bit. I guess it comes down to how close you are to your boss.

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  • webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    I'm not a believer in fate, but since we're back in office and about the only perk of my job was the WFH for the last two years, I've started looking around. What does LinkedIn throw me? A job that would be a great next step in my career path, at a govt agency with much better benefits and pay scale, half the commute and the cherry on top is one of the main people in the department is an old coworker and poker playing friend from a couple jobs back. I haven't talked to her in a few years, but I sent her a quick ping on LinkedIn asking about the job.

    I don't want to get my hopes up, because I haven't even applied yet, but damn it feel like a good omen.

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  • DocshiftyDocshifty Registered User regular
    Why the FUCK do people keep asking for the attendance bonus back!?

    You dumb motherfuckers! The issue isn't call offs, it is staffing levels!

    And you address that with hourly wage increases!

  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    exis wrote: »
    Athenor wrote: »
    exis wrote: »
    exis wrote: »
    We've all just been invited to a "priority" all-of-company meeting in 3 hours, followed up by a message from our senior manager that our team needs to attend, and will get together to discuss afterward.

    I can only assume this is about huge pay rises and bonuses for everybody.

    Company-wide reduction of 20%. Impacted people will hear from their manager by the end of today, and will be finishing this Friday. Fuck.

    Jesus.

    Hoping for the best for you.

    Thanks. It was only recently that I was talking in the last thread about getting itchy feet so this might not be the worst thing, particularly since the job market is good right now.

    Had a 1:1 with the boss (entire team is doing the same). Basically he has pitched 2 restructure options up the chain, which would have different numbers of redundancies (though some are inevitable). There won't be confirmation on which option is selected until then, so until then it's lips sealed on who the potential redundancies are. But it seems like it'll basically be on Friday that we find out both what the new structure is and who's not in it.

    I feel like I'm a likely candidate for redundancy, and I probably wouldn't mind. Even if I weren't, this points to larger issues within the company (which is all about zero-profit, high growth, so the fact that we're shrinking for the first time is Bad News). I'm ready to start looking around. This just leaves me in an awkward position because on the off-chance that I'm not made redundant, then I'm potentially taking the role of somebody else, only to maybe leave once I find something else. Ideally I would just tell my boss I'll take voluntary redundancy, get my severance package and GTFO. But I have a family to support and I don't really want to risk losing a stable income if I can avoid it.

    TL;DR time to update my CV.

    So let me address the comment about the awkward position as someone who has been through multiple layoffs as well as counseled people around them (because no one else was stepping up to do so): You did not choose this situation nor have much agency within it, so it's not on you to feel bad if you get to stay only to leave later. That's on the people making the cuts. They chose not to offer voluntary redundancies early. They chose their strategy.

  • HefflingHeffling No Pic EverRegistered User regular
    Congratz, Fishman!
    Today is the first day of my official new* position.

    I am putting this notification here rather than the new thread because:
    * all the discussion around this change was in this thread
    * I have updated my job, and got paid.

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  • Kane Red RobeKane Red Robe Master of Magic ArcanusRegistered User regular
    While I was out my work wound down most of it's Covid protocols, which, eh. One of them though was that we had a bunch of doors propped open for better airflow which have now been shut again. This wouldn't really be an issue except they also started upgrading the doors to open automatically if you approach wearing the appropriate RFID badge. Which is cool except they've only gotten about half the doors done so far and since I was out while this was going on I've been alternating between sticking my arm out to open a door which is opening itself and running into a door which I assumed would open automatically and isn't.

  • H0b0manH0b0man Registered User regular
    So in addition to the position I posted about in the other thread, I also interviewed for an entry level cybersecurity position last week. It's actually a position I'm more interested in since the security and network forensics classes I had were some of my favorite courses in school. It's a job specifically for new graduates where the first couple of weeks are set aside for full time training before you move to consultancy work for their clients.

    The job was supposed to start next week so I decided to email my contact at the company, who's been working with me throughout the hiring process, to see if there were any updates on a final hiring decision. Turns out that they've been in talks with the companies we'd be supporting, since I guess they get a say in who they want doing consultancy work for them, and are just waiting to hear back from them before putting out any offers. However, the guy I've been talking to mentioned that I was one of their best candidates and that I had been recommended for hiring, and that they were just waiting for their clients to give the all clear. The start date has been pushed back a bit, but should still be sometime this month.

    So it looks like I might get an offer sometime in the near future. If that's the case it'll be a massive weight off my shoulders. Trying to find that initial job out of school when none of your work experience is in the industry sucks ass let me tell you.

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  • durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    I'm interested by that "wfh at night" thing because that absolutely hasn't been my experience. I used to spend an extra hour at work really often to try to finish up a difficult problem, but now I just log off and shut down at 5.

    Though I guess there are a lot of reasons I may have a less common experience. I do work that I can do in the background while technically attending meetings. I tend to have very weakly managed positions where there just isn't a person who could lock me into lots of meetings. Or like technically there is but they haven't met with me in four months because they forgot that they were thinking about doing one-on-ones. Also I have very few hard deadlines, lots of "we really need X to happen!" but like the sort where you can see ahead of time that it'll definitely actually still be "critical to get out this month" four months from now.

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  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    I'm interested by that "wfh at night" thing because that absolutely hasn't been my experience. I used to spend an extra hour at work really often to try to finish up a difficult problem, but now I just log off and shut down at 5.

    Though I guess there are a lot of reasons I may have a less common experience. I do work that I can do in the background while technically attending meetings. I tend to have very weakly managed positions where there just isn't a person who could lock me into lots of meetings. Or like technically there is but they haven't met with me in four months because they forgot that they were thinking about doing one-on-ones. Also I have very few hard deadlines, lots of "we really need X to happen!" but like the sort where you can see ahead of time that it'll definitely actually still be "critical to get out this month" four months from now.

    I do one check of my schedule for the day via my phone version of outlook at night, but that's about it. I've had one or two night sessions, but they were my choice, not something my work demanded.

  • ToxTox I kill threads he/himRegistered User regular
    I sometimes check my email and our workqueue before bed

    But I don't, like, do anything. I just look at it. Maybe close a couple tickets if it's the last day of the month and all I gotta do is just actually close 'em cuz the work's done.

    But the idea of actually working that late on my own is baffling.

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  • minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    Yeah, most I ever do is glance at my email to mark a bunch of shit as read, or to flag things for the next morning. I absolutely never do any actual work after hours, unless one of my coworkers on the evening shift calls or texts in need of a hand with something.

    Ah, it stinks, it sucks, it's anthropologically unjust
  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    Yeah, I like to glance at my schedule for the next day just as a quick “so what am I doing tomorrow?” thing.

  • tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    if I'm working during the evening nowadays, it's usually because I decided to block off some of the afternoon to go for a bike ride or run some errands - basically a self-inflicted bifurcation. That said, when I was doing purely academic research it would not be unusual for me to work 9-9 or even later, to meet deadlines or because I was on a roll with something, and every now and then I do fall back into that pattern.

    The big change I made when I shifted jobs and the pandemic happened is not to work weekends. There's been a couple of instances where that hasn't been possible to stick to (either because of a really pressing deadline, or because I'm providing support for trade shows, or because of time differences on international projects). But in general, for the last 2 years, when I close off at Friday I don't log back on until Monday.
    ... tbh it still makes me uncomfortable and that I might be 'wasting' my weekend. Old habits die hard.

  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Yeah, I like to glance at my schedule for the next day just as a quick “so what am I doing tomorrow?” thing.

    "How seriously do I have to take tomorrow?"

  • TynnanTynnan seldom correct, never unsure Registered User regular
    tynic wrote: »
    if I'm working during the evening nowadays, it's usually because I decided to block off some of the afternoon to go for a bike ride or run some errands - basically a self-inflicted bifurcation. That said, when I was doing purely academic research it would not be unusual for me to work 9-9 or even later, to meet deadlines or because I was on a roll with something, and every now and then I do fall back into that pattern.

    The big change I made when I shifted jobs and the pandemic happened is not to work weekends. There's been a couple of instances where that hasn't been possible to stick to (either because of a really pressing deadline, or because I'm providing support for trade shows, or because of time differences on international projects). But in general, for the last 2 years, when I close off at Friday I don't log back on until Monday.
    ... tbh it still makes me uncomfortable and that I might be 'wasting' my weekend. Old habits die hard.

    The expectations of work ethic in academic research are some deep-rooted bullshit, it’s true.

  • ToxTox I kill threads he/himRegistered User regular
    schuss wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Yeah, I like to glance at my schedule for the next day just as a quick “so what am I doing tomorrow?” thing.

    "How seriously do I have to take tomorrow?"

    Or when you have a day like we had a couple months back
    *Opens queue*
    ...
    *Closes queue*
    *Opens email*
    Subject: sick day...

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    I could see WFH at night being a thing, but as a shift of its own not tacked on to the end of what's already been an 8-9 hour workday listening to a bunch of farting assholes ripping along for meetings that could have all been emails

  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    Madican wrote: »
    I could see WFH at night being a thing, but as a shift of its own not tacked on to the end of what's already been an 8-9 hour workday listening to a bunch of farting assholes ripping along for meetings that could have all been emails

    I also know a number of people that take meaningful breaks during the day to do stuff with kids or exercise while it's nice out, then do more work at night when they'd otherwise just be watching TV or whatever. This kind of flexibility is magical for keeping people in the workforce and actually contributing. I know early days of the pandemic I was working maybe half days because I had a 3 and 5 year olds at home and one person can only wrangle so effectively.

  • NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    the halo cookbook better have onion rings

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  • minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    Naphtali wrote: »
    the halo cookbook better have onion rings

    With a Flood of zesty bbq sauce!

    Ah, it stinks, it sucks, it's anthropologically unjust
  • HefflingHeffling No Pic EverRegistered User regular
    Naphtali wrote: »
    the halo cookbook better have onion rings

    The halo cookbook should be called "How to Serve Our Lord and Savior".

  • ElaroElaro Apologetic Registered User regular
    Heffling wrote: »
    Naphtali wrote: »
    the halo cookbook better have onion rings

    The halo cookbook should be called "How to Serve Our Lord and Savior".

    "As a main dish, a side dish, or as part of an appetizer..."

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    I'm in a group called the Best Buy Network. I've been on it for like four years now. Basically a small group of people from different positions around the company that huddle up with corporate folks to figure out what's working and what isn't. One of the other field agents mentioned their boss denied them a coat. Now for field agents, a coat is part of our uniform. They're something we get standard, and can be replaced every year if need be. So I, being the "I'm fucking done with bullshit" person, said "nah, that's part of the uniform. Submit the order again and keep doing it until he approves it."

    Silly me didn't realize how many other managers are part of this group this year (which I don't think is ok!). They immediately got on my case about having a conversation and making a business case with her boss because that's the right way to do it.

    And being an idiot I doubled down, said "look, it's black and white in SOP. Coats are part of the uniform. If the manager is denying it, they're pinching pennies out of spite. Submit it once more, then go to HR if he declines again. There's no positive intent to be assumed here."


    Off to a great start!

  • tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    If I never hear this guy say "data" again it will be too soon.

    I should have gotten a clicker and kept track, I think we easily hit 200+ instances in every hour.

  • sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    Hello one worker (conservative) told another worker (liberal) who is home sholling that he doesn't want her kind in his town and now we're trying to explain to a very confused and naive new dutch hire while HR frantically flips through binders.

    Light that motherfucker on fire and save everybody some time.

  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    tynic wrote: »
    If I never hear this guy say "data" again it will be too soon.

    I should have gotten a clicker and kept track, I think we easily hit 200+ instances in every hour.

    Data or dahta?

  • CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    I got an offer through Linkedin to do a marketing survey in exchange for $40. I don't know if I'll actually get that $40, but here are some of my answers to the survey:
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  • ElaroElaro Apologetic Registered User regular
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    tynic wrote: »
    If I never hear this guy say "data" again it will be too soon.

    I should have gotten a clicker and kept track, I think we easily hit 200+ instances in every hour.

    Data or dahta?

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Elaro wrote: »
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    tynic wrote: »
    If I never hear this guy say "data" again it will be too soon.

    I should have gotten a clicker and kept track, I think we easily hit 200+ instances in every hour.

    Data or dahta?

    Dota

    ...Seems like a good way to get toxic levels of sodium intake.

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  • tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    tynic wrote: »
    If I never hear this guy say "data" again it will be too soon.

    I should have gotten a clicker and kept track, I think we easily hit 200+ instances in every hour.

    Data or dahta?

    American pronunciation. An audial affront.

  • OrcaOrca Also known as Espressosaurus WrexRegistered User regular
    Heffling wrote: »
    Naphtali wrote: »
    the halo cookbook better have onion rings

    The halo cookbook should be called "How to Serve Our Lord and Savior".

    I prefer fava beans and a nice chianti.

  • ElaroElaro Apologetic Registered User regular
    Orca wrote: »
    Heffling wrote: »
    Naphtali wrote: »
    the halo cookbook better have onion rings

    The halo cookbook should be called "How to Serve Our Lord and Savior".

    I prefer fava beans and a nice chianti.

    Jesus

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  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    I'm in a group called the Best Buy Network. I've been on it for like four years now. Basically a small group of people from different positions around the company that huddle up with corporate folks to figure out what's working and what isn't. One of the other field agents mentioned their boss denied them a coat. Now for field agents, a coat is part of our uniform. They're something we get standard, and can be replaced every year if need be. So I, being the "I'm fucking done with bullshit" person, said "nah, that's part of the uniform. Submit the order again and keep doing it until he approves it."

    Silly me didn't realize how many other managers are part of this group this year (which I don't think is ok!). They immediately got on my case about having a conversation and making a business case with her boss because that's the right way to do it.

    And being an idiot I doubled down, said "look, it's black and white in SOP. Coats are part of the uniform. If the manager is denying it, they're pinching pennies out of spite. Submit it once more, then go to HR if he declines again. There's no positive intent to be assumed here."


    Off to a great start!

    If it's part of the uniform, why is there even an approval required?

  • minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    schuss wrote: »
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    I'm in a group called the Best Buy Network. I've been on it for like four years now. Basically a small group of people from different positions around the company that huddle up with corporate folks to figure out what's working and what isn't. One of the other field agents mentioned their boss denied them a coat. Now for field agents, a coat is part of our uniform. They're something we get standard, and can be replaced every year if need be. So I, being the "I'm fucking done with bullshit" person, said "nah, that's part of the uniform. Submit the order again and keep doing it until he approves it."

    Silly me didn't realize how many other managers are part of this group this year (which I don't think is ok!). They immediately got on my case about having a conversation and making a business case with her boss because that's the right way to do it.

    And being an idiot I doubled down, said "look, it's black and white in SOP. Coats are part of the uniform. If the manager is denying it, they're pinching pennies out of spite. Submit it once more, then go to HR if he declines again. There's no positive intent to be assumed here."


    Off to a great start!

    If it's part of the uniform, why is there even an approval required?

    I think you might have missed the part where he explained that this was a huge American corporation that makes billions of dollars.

    And they certainly don’t do that by giving out coats that they require their employees to wear.

    Ah, it stinks, it sucks, it's anthropologically unjust
  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    schuss wrote: »
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    I'm in a group called the Best Buy Network. I've been on it for like four years now. Basically a small group of people from different positions around the company that huddle up with corporate folks to figure out what's working and what isn't. One of the other field agents mentioned their boss denied them a coat. Now for field agents, a coat is part of our uniform. They're something we get standard, and can be replaced every year if need be. So I, being the "I'm fucking done with bullshit" person, said "nah, that's part of the uniform. Submit the order again and keep doing it until he approves it."

    Silly me didn't realize how many other managers are part of this group this year (which I don't think is ok!). They immediately got on my case about having a conversation and making a business case with her boss because that's the right way to do it.

    And being an idiot I doubled down, said "look, it's black and white in SOP. Coats are part of the uniform. If the manager is denying it, they're pinching pennies out of spite. Submit it once more, then go to HR if he declines again. There's no positive intent to be assumed here."


    Off to a great start!

    If it's part of the uniform, why is there even an approval required?

    I know, right?

    Basically in the field we do all of our own ordering. Parts for installs including tools, uniform pieces, everything passes through our ordering system. You put the order in and someone has to approve it. Makes sense on the surface so someone doesn't accidentally order twelve drills and one in wall power kit instead of the other way around. But then you get assholes like this guy who is nitpicking every order and declining for no good reason.

    I've since tripled down and said that if he continues declining it she should just order it on the alternate site and use her corporate card. They're not happy with me, but they're forgetting that the point of this program is to rock the boat. I'm doing my job. And that's the story I'm sticking to.

  • EinzelEinzel Registered User regular
    tynic wrote: »
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    tynic wrote: »
    If I never hear this guy say "data" again it will be too soon.

    I should have gotten a clicker and kept track, I think we easily hit 200+ instances in every hour.

    Data or dahta?

    American pronunciation. An audial affront.

    Dada?

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