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Primaries for all parties

zepherinzepherin Russian warship, go fuck yourselfRegistered User regular
It is primary season.

And it’s looking to be a weird one.
Pennsylvania has a barn burner on the Republican Party with Dr. Oz narrowly ahead of David McCormick. Georgia is is currently having a knife fight on the Republican side.

There are others; I’ll edit the ToP later to reflect the more important primary contests.

What this thread is: a thread to discuss primaries, primary results and candidates for the 2022 elections.

What this thread isn’t. A thread to discuss any primary or election not in 2022. Which means 2016, 2020 Manchin and Sinema (who are not up for election this year).

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  • IlpalaIlpala Just this guy, y'know TexasRegistered User regular
    Crossing my fingers as I watch how Cuellar/Cisneros shakes out.

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  • Kane Red RobeKane Red Robe Master of Magic ArcanusRegistered User regular
    Gonna go down and waste my time voting in the Alabama Democratic primary after work today. Woo

  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    Ilpala wrote: »
    Crossing my fingers as I watch how Cuellar/Cisneros shakes out.

    I'm extremely annoyed that Clyburn and Pelosi are still campaigning for him, to say nothing of the millions of dollars PACs are pouring into that race to keep an FBI-raided, anti-choice candidate in office

  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    Wasserman's calling it for the progressive over a blue dog in Oregon house race.


    I've seen enough: Jamie McLeod-Skinner (D) defeats Rep. Kurt Schrader (D) in the #OR05 Dem primary.

    I am a little nervous about this one. It's Oregon's closest to a tossup district (D+3), and was changed fairly significantly in redistricting to pull in a lot more rural/red spaces. In an R wave, it could absolutely go Republican. Also, Republican primary voters outnumbered Dem primary by about 10%. It's good Schrader's gone, but we may lose this seat regardless.

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  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    edited May 2022
    Moving this over here from the Voter Suppression thread.

    It looks like at least one Republican on the overseeing board (split 2 R, 2 D) is pissed off about the massive election fraud in the Michigan GOP governor primary and wants to make an example of people.
    In its Monday night report, the Michigan Bureau of Elections found 36 circulators who submitted fraudulent petition sheets "consisting entirely of invalid signatures."

    "We have to be serious about putting several people in jail," said Norm Shinkle, one of two Republicans who serve on the Board of State Canvassers. "We have to prosecute."

    ...

    All petition sheets submitted by these circulators displayed suspicious patterns indicative of fraud, and staff reviewing these signatures against the qualified voter file did not identify any signatures that appeared to be submitted by a registered voter," a staff report from the bureau said. "Taken together, these circulators provided nominating petitions in at least 10 petition drives."

    The bureau estimated that the circulators submitted at least 68,000 invalid signatures across the 10 sets of nominating petitions.
    https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2022/05/24/michigan-petition-forgery-signatures-prosecution/9909230002/

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    I would imagine the fraudulent signature gatherers are the ones he wants to prison, not the candidates who hired them.

    The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    And you'll be shocked to learn that Stacey Abrams is the instacall winner on the Democratic side.

    The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited May 2022
    Warnock fends off a dumb challenge (lefty in theory, but mostly cared about safety in the beauty industry) by a lot. He'll face Herschel Walker, who has won the Republican Senate primary.

    Early on Kemp is crushing Perdue in the GOP primary for governor. Raffensberger is up 10 or so for Secretary of State but that's very early.

    EDIT: Called for Kemp.

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    The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
  • archivistkitsunearchivistkitsune Registered User regular
    The signature thing is really sad because you need like 0.15% of the state's population to sign the form. Like it can't be that fucking hard to get 1.5K signatures.

    So either the signature gatherers were really fucking lazy and couldn't be arsed to places to get signatures. I mean, you don't even need to go door to door for those, just find the areas where you get huge crowds of people and get permission to either setup a booth or stand around need the entrance or exit. If not that, they I guess they figured they could skimp on expenses by forging shit instead of having to devote resources towards camping out places that get huge crowds.

  • MonwynMonwyn Apathy's a tragedy, and boredom is a crime. A little bit of everything, all of the time.Registered User regular
    Warnock fends off a dumb challenge (lefty in theory, but mostly cared about safety in the beauty industry) by a lot. He'll face Herschel Walker, who has won the Republican Senate primary.

    Early on Kemp is crushing Perdue in the GOP primary for governor. Raffensberger is up 10 or so for Secretary of State but that's very early.

    EDIT: Called for Kemp.

    FWIW there was a pretty low-key word-of-mouth campaign around Atlanta for Dems to vote in the GOP primary specifically to pick Raffensberger as SecState, given that he's proved he can at least be relied upon not to invent a bunch of fake votes.

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Central OhioRegistered User regular
    Warnock fends off a dumb challenge (lefty in theory, but mostly cared about safety in the beauty industry) by a lot. He'll face Herschel Walker, who has won the Republican Senate primary.

    Early on Kemp is crushing Perdue in the GOP primary for governor. Raffensberger is up 10 or so for Secretary of State but that's very early.

    EDIT: Called for Kemp.

    Dang, that last minute racism didn’t help Perdue after all

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Greene renominated in Georgia.

    The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited May 2022
    Georgia's AG easily fends off a Trumper/coup primary challenge.

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    The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Cuellar doing better than he did the first time in his strong areas, which are more plentiful than Cisneros. Not great for her.

    The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    McBath beat Bordeleaux in their newly merged district. The latter was one of Gottheimer's fucking useful idiots.

    The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Trumpers keep losing in the South. French Hill easily won his primary. His opponents main attack was that Hill voted to certify Biden's win.

    The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
  • SageinaRageSageinaRage Registered User regular
    Monwyn wrote: »
    Warnock fends off a dumb challenge (lefty in theory, but mostly cared about safety in the beauty industry) by a lot. He'll face Herschel Walker, who has won the Republican Senate primary.

    Early on Kemp is crushing Perdue in the GOP primary for governor. Raffensberger is up 10 or so for Secretary of State but that's very early.

    EDIT: Called for Kemp.

    FWIW there was a pretty low-key word-of-mouth campaign around Atlanta for Dems to vote in the GOP primary specifically to pick Raffensberger as SecState, given that he's proved he can at least be relied upon not to invent a bunch of fake votes.

    Among my political friends in Atlanta, I'm pretty much the only one who took the democratic ballot, everyone else voted as a spoiler for trumpists.

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  • soitissoitis Registered User regular
    Less relevant for most but in a probably shouldn’t be surprising result, but still kind of is, Ken Paxton looks to overwhelmingly win his runoff primary. He might be the most obviously corrupt Attorney General ever, but the Republicans in Texas still want him…

  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    soitis wrote: »
    Less relevant for most but in a probably shouldn’t be surprising result, but still kind of is, Ken Paxton looks to overwhelmingly win his runoff primary. He might be the most obviously corrupt Attorney General ever, but the Republicans in Texas still want him…

    Somehow indicted for like half a decade with no actual trial.

    The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    About to go to bed, but Cuellar is up 539 votes at the moment. Close, but you'd rather be him with what's out apparently.

    The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Raffensberger wins renomination for Georgia Secretary of State. Cuellar's lead now 87 votes.

    The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    edited May 2022
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    Raffensberger wins renomination for Georgia Secretary of State. Cuellar's lead now 87 votes.

    Cuellar is DOWN 87 votes, but most of what's left is expected to go for him.

    E:
    And it already did. He's up 185 now.

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  • A Kobold's KoboldA Kobold's Kobold He/Him MississippiRegistered User regular
    I’m starting to look at candidates for the primary here—not that it matters, because I’m in a deep red part of Mississippi—and I was worried that I wouldn’t have a good candidate to support, so I looked up the guy I didn’t know (a David Sellers) who I found on a sign while walking the dog today, and it turned out that he was a Democrat! Gasp!

    And I’m reading this guy’s issues page and, while he is very religious, which is the sort of shit that you need to win in this fucking state but personally turns me off, he seems to be a perfectly passable dem? Like, the section on policing is “get our officers proper training and body cams,” which is never going to be enough for this board, but is infinitely better than what I thought it was going to be. I was expecting a watered-down Republican but he’s talking about “new, evidence-based approaches to justice” and ensuring kids have access to preschool and giving a living wage to workers and paid leave. Might he still be a watered-down Republican in sheep’s clothing? Maybe. Probably? But the fact that he might not be is mildly exciting!

    The other guy in the dem primary (a Johnny L. DuPree) is the former mayor of Hattiesburg and there’s nothing on his site that tells me what he believes, which is disappointing. I’ll have to do more research on him.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Mill wrote: »
    The signature thing is really sad because you need like 0.15% of the state's population to sign the form. Like it can't be that fucking hard to get 1.5K signatures.

    So either the signature gatherers were really fucking lazy and couldn't be arsed to places to get signatures. I mean, you don't even need to go door to door for those, just find the areas where you get huge crowds of people and get permission to either setup a booth or stand around need the entrance or exit. If not that, they I guess they figured they could skimp on expenses by forging shit instead of having to devote resources towards camping out places that get huge crowds.

    I mean, it's much easier to just lie and more money in their pocket.

  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    MorganV wrote: »
    ArcTangent wrote: »
    Moving this over here from the Voter Suppression thread.

    It looks like at least one Republican on the overseeing board (split 2 R, 2 D) is pissed off about the massive election fraud in the Michigan GOP governor primary and wants to make an example of people.
    In its Monday night report, the Michigan Bureau of Elections found 36 circulators who submitted fraudulent petition sheets "consisting entirely of invalid signatures."

    "We have to be serious about putting several people in jail," said Norm Shinkle, one of two Republicans who serve on the Board of State Canvassers. "We have to prosecute."

    ...

    All petition sheets submitted by these circulators displayed suspicious patterns indicative of fraud, and staff reviewing these signatures against the qualified voter file did not identify any signatures that appeared to be submitted by a registered voter," a staff report from the bureau said. "Taken together, these circulators provided nominating petitions in at least 10 petition drives."

    The bureau estimated that the circulators submitted at least 68,000 invalid signatures across the 10 sets of nominating petitions.
    https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2022/05/24/michigan-petition-forgery-signatures-prosecution/9909230002/

    It really makes me sad that a Republican actually doing the right thing is such a rarity, and that that act of honor is likely killing their career in politics, not just from the "establishment", but from the "base" too.

    It makes me angry when these acts are then seemingly pissed away by various authorities, both law enforcement and governmental.

    Don't worry, the Republicans decided that the candidates weren't to blame, and voted to throw out the bureau's report about fraudulent signatures.

    But you need three votes out of the 2D/2R to be accepted onto the ballot, so five of them were DQed, including the frontrunner in the polls. Three of them are saying they're going to file a lawsuit though.

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  • zepherinzepherin Russian warship, go fuck yourself Registered User regular
    ArcTangent wrote: »
    MorganV wrote: »
    ArcTangent wrote: »
    Moving this over here from the Voter Suppression thread.

    It looks like at least one Republican on the overseeing board (split 2 R, 2 D) is pissed off about the massive election fraud in the Michigan GOP governor primary and wants to make an example of people.
    In its Monday night report, the Michigan Bureau of Elections found 36 circulators who submitted fraudulent petition sheets "consisting entirely of invalid signatures."

    "We have to be serious about putting several people in jail," said Norm Shinkle, one of two Republicans who serve on the Board of State Canvassers. "We have to prosecute."

    ...

    All petition sheets submitted by these circulators displayed suspicious patterns indicative of fraud, and staff reviewing these signatures against the qualified voter file did not identify any signatures that appeared to be submitted by a registered voter," a staff report from the bureau said. "Taken together, these circulators provided nominating petitions in at least 10 petition drives."

    The bureau estimated that the circulators submitted at least 68,000 invalid signatures across the 10 sets of nominating petitions.
    https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2022/05/24/michigan-petition-forgery-signatures-prosecution/9909230002/

    It really makes me sad that a Republican actually doing the right thing is such a rarity, and that that act of honor is likely killing their career in politics, not just from the "establishment", but from the "base" too.

    It makes me angry when these acts are then seemingly pissed away by various authorities, both law enforcement and governmental.

    Don't worry, the Republicans decided that the candidates weren't to blame, and voted to throw out the bureau's report about fraudulent signatures.

    But you need three votes out of the 2D/2R to be accepted onto the ballot, so five of them were DQed, including the frontrunner in the polls. Three of them are saying they're going to file a lawsuit though.
    Democrats are not pushing on this hard enough. I’m not seeing any attack advertisements from Democrats, and this is absolutely a wedge to be hitting instead of soft pawing.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    I think Dems think getting into the middle of a Republican knife fight means the Dem gets stabbed, to complete for analogy.

  • zepherinzepherin Russian warship, go fuck yourself Registered User regular
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    I think Dems think getting into the middle of a Republican knife fight means the Dem gets stabbed, to complete for analogy.

    They have a whole infrastructure for dark money anonymous political adds. Michigan is 100% a state to spend some money. Maybe not Democratic candidates, but a super pac “conservatives for election integrity” starts spending on attack advertisements on conservative. It’s what I’d do, nobody gets to know who funded the pac. So use that to just cause chaos in the GOP process. Where they are clearly breaking the law.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited May 2022
    To what end, exactly? They're knocked off the ballot it's a pretty major story around here. Or is this just Murc's Law in action.

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    The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
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  • zepherinzepherin Russian warship, go fuck yourself Registered User regular
    To what end, exactly? They're knocked off the ballot it's a pretty major story around here. Or is this just Murc's Law in action.
    The end is to suppress Republican turnout. And have a Democrat in the Governor’s office next year. Governor’s offices are critically important. And local and state elections are a real blind spot for democrats. They’ve been getting better, but they are really far behind.

  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    zepherin wrote: »
    To what end, exactly? They're knocked off the ballot it's a pretty major story around here. Or is this just Murc's Law in action.
    The end is to suppress Republican turnout. And have a Democrat in the Governor’s office next year. Governor’s offices are critically important. And local and state elections are a real blind spot for democrats. They’ve been getting better, but they are really far behind.

    Whitmer's up 20 on the new frontrunner, last time I checked.

    The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    Tweeter works for Business Insider. Big PAC campaign going to go after Tlaib this cycle

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Happened the last two cycles too. Didn't matter. It is going to be fucked up when Detroit doesn't have a black member of Congress though.

    The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
  • SummaryJudgmentSummaryJudgment Grab the hottest iron you can find, stride in the Tower’s front door Registered User regular
    zepherin wrote: »
    To what end, exactly? They're knocked off the ballot it's a pretty major story around here. Or is this just Murc's Law in action.
    The end is to suppress Republican turnout. And have a Democrat in the Governor’s office next year. Governor’s offices are critically important. And local and state elections are a real blind spot for democrats. They’ve been getting better, but they are really far behind.

    Whitmer's up 20 on the new frontrunner, last time I checked.

    Haven't been able to do shit with this legislature since before you or I were alive, though

  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    zepherin wrote: »
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    I think Dems think getting into the middle of a Republican knife fight means the Dem gets stabbed, to complete for analogy.

    They have a whole infrastructure for dark money anonymous political adds. Michigan is 100% a state to spend some money. Maybe not Democratic candidates, but a super pac “conservatives for election integrity” starts spending on attack advertisements on conservative. It’s what I’d do, nobody gets to know who funded the pac. So use that to just cause chaos in the GOP process. Where they are clearly breaking the law.

    This would be a smarter route. Dems getting actively involved would immediately turn the story into Democrats Trying To Jail Opponents and shit. Every single Republican that should be indicted gets to whine about political interference blahblahblah hypocrisy projection bullshit. Better to let them duke it out, and use nonDem means to exacerbate their internal hostilities.

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