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So it’s come to this: another [movies] thread
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Live fast and get fucked or whateverRegistered User regular
This is where we discuss movies that aren’t Star Wars movies or superhero movies because those already have their own threads.
Ground rules:
- articulate your opinions!
- that’s it
Wanna know more about how to be talking with words gooder about movies and such? Watch these channels and get learned!
https://youtu.be/ahHIifcFyqk
https://youtu.be/SlpOaY-_HMk
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So, like Kubrick said: Get out there and git‘er dun
Ground rules:
- articulate your opinions!
- that’s it
Wanna know more about how to be talking with words gooder about movies and such? Watch these channels and get learned!
https://youtu.be/ahHIifcFyqkhttps://youtu.be/SlpOaY-_HMkhttps://youtu.be/UWEjxkkB8Xshttps://youtu.be/HfrmzSX4J-Mhttps://youtu.be/XA87UorMO-Uhttps://youtu.be/i9mGSDluh9ghttps://youtu.be/z-uJOyT_7i4So, like Kubrick said: Get out there and git‘er dun
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Do you have any good resources on learning what happens in the editing room? It is very black box to me but I dont think my film history thing is gonna get there and it feels vital as things go from long, expensive reels to more edit-heavy ones
Sure! Added to the OP 😊
We don't need any film criticism youtubes, because this is just the best film, and all you need.
That’s when you add a weird color filter and say it’s a dream sequence
I'm the absolute baby version of this: someone who helps edit video for my local news between shows, and I fucking feel this.
Gotta match the visuals to the speaking cadence of someone who is going to talk over the video live. Gotta have enough to cover the entire anchor/reporter read and then some. Gotta account for vocal stumbling. Gotta keep the shots up long enough for viewers to process what they're looking at. Gotta look for unairable things in the shots (dead bodies, obscene signs, etc). Gotta find something to cover the out of focus street interview the photographer shot.
And that's for a 30 second part of a newscast. I can only shudder at the madness of assembling hours of footage and coverage and takes into a coherent story that both sounds good and feels good to watch.
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oh god oh god i fucked up
It was in a porn I watched
You’ll never believe what was at the bottom
Then you realize that, up until a certain point, most productions didn't have access to video taps or live monitor feeds and they were just hoping everything looked good in the dailies. Focus pullers had to do it by feel and timing.
Way too many unpopped kernels in a pool of not butter?
I do assistant editing for reality TV right now. It's a different ball of wax because most films aren't going to be shooting with anywhere near that many cameras, but the act of simply taking in everything that's been shot and trying to create any sort of shape and order is a real skill that I have the utmost respect for.
A decoder ring?
So basically, it's cinematic spice. Often overlooked or treated by consumers as a "fuck it I can add salt who cares", but when it hits right it makes the dish.
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Editing is often over looked (direction, photography etc) but it's crucial to delivering a tight, well paced story and a good edit can totally change the atmosphere and story.
Passengers should have been edited to put the early Pratt scenes in the middle rather than at the start. Then at least there would be some mystery and Pratt's performance would come across as creepy rather than flat.
I don't agree. The first like half of that movie is what makes it work. The fact that we empathize with Pratt's character and the feeling of a looming disaster as we know the secret has to eventually come out are all really interesting.
The problem with Passengers is they wrote themselves a setup they had no clue how to write an ending for.
The gist of the story is Apocalypse is a former prisoner who learned how to count cards in the clink and now travels casinos making just enough at each location to not get popped by the hotel. He lives below his means, rents cheap motel rooms, and disconnects everything and covers all things in the room in sheets so as to not mess up the routine he grew comfort in behind bars. But at one casino he runs in Cyclops while the two are listening to a speech by Norman Osborn, all three are connected by events in the past, and then the layers are slowly peeled away. I'm not saying more because it did swerve in a way I didn't expect and made me take interest and it's an interesting attempt to merge two wildly different stories.
The movie is carried by Oscar Isaac, who does a great job as someone who has a routine and it's done to keep the demons from rising to the top, but his attempts to be more normal raise that just enough in places to make the pressure valve pop. He's very believable in this situation and I wish he would do more things like this than "they fly now!" Tye Sheridan deserves more work because he's believable as someone who is just lost in life, and while he acts annoying or full of himself like the Gen Z character he portrays it's never to the point where I don't get upset when he's onscreen. You do get a sense between the two they're trying to right their ships by working together. Tiffany Haddish worked as basically a gambling talent scout up until the movie requires a romance subplot which doesn't feel genuine. This was one of those movies that looked like it was almost finished before Covid hit and then screwed things up, but it doesn't feel that way given the places and time of the scenes. The biggest issue I have with everything from the presentation is too much mopey music by some new rock loser and how everything is shot digital instead of film, creating too much of a sanitized look and too much depth of field which makes some casino scenes just look lacking.
If you want a gambling movie, this is more an appetizer or starter salad than a main course. And in terms of dramas with gambling there's much better recent movies like Uncut Gems, The Gambler '14, even Wild Card, but like I said if you like Schrader's stuff, and you want to see one of Isaac's best performances, give it a watch.
Anyways I liked The Card Counter. It feels a bit thrown together, but it treats its psychology and criticism of American society with care and originality. His movies aren't perfect, but they're certainly his. Schrader can just keeping making sad, lonely man movies because no one else in America does it as convincingly.
The problem with Passengers is the people who saw it and didn't like the ending.
Like, the original sperm bank ending or the theatrical release?
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
Extremely by the numbers movie, but the actors had some fun with it so it didn’t drag.
Definitely felt unnecessarily mean spirited to the D&D loving half sister, and for a movie that revolves around family the family dynamics are criminally under explained, as well as just how the estate came to be in the first place.
Not a bad watch though at a fairly tight 90 or so minutes
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All the JW films are thoroughly silly, but they're at least watchable, though I can only get beat over the head with Greed Is Evil so many times by the end of the trilogy.
Oh, and if they were going to go full crazy with character revivals:
I love all of them but then I am a kid at heart. I just want to watch lizards/birds eat people. Simple man. Simple pleasures. Give me more Sexy Rexy stomping about and eating things. Plot? Who cares! I loved the hell out of Blue and those moments.
Alas, I did not buy Chris Pratt as an action hero for any scene. He just looked constipated in most scenes.
John Wick 4-and-a-half
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Both JW2 and 3 were fun enough films that could've easily been 20 mins shorter
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