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For some reason, I am getting lines on the screen with the Mister now. They are faint lines. It is not the tv. The lines also show up when I switch to a monitor.
It is not scan lines. I changed the resolution and it went away for a little bit, but it came back.
I actually have an extra Nano board. I can try swapping that in.
One thing I have not tried is the update all script. I could try running that and see if it fixes things.
Edit: I fixed the problem. I set the vsync to low lag and set HDMI to game mode.
Did you end up getting that other Nano board you ordered from the Manufacturer?
Yes. It turned out that the line problem showed up again. I switched out the Nano board with the new one and it seems to have fixed it.
That is what I get for buying a used Mister. I think something went wrong with the board.
I also have a new usb board, but that didn't seem to work. I got this other one you plug power into.
The usb board I am using has a cable on it that goes into the micro usb slot.
As a kid I lived next to a very rich neighbor who had a 3DO. My fondest memories are definitely Return Fire. That game is still pretty fun today. Also a lot of Star Control II.
Picked up a copy of Thousand Arms the other day. I kinda forgot how good it is? The way it slides between the derpy little chibis and the animated portraits is real cool. The combat is kinda interesting as well. Meis also not nearly as bad as I remembered.
This graphic problem on the Mister is weird. I played Chrono Trigger and it is not present. I wonder if it is a buffer issue. It mainly shows up in Turbografx games.
Turbo has both some odd resolution widths and can run the full 240p or even 244p up and down. Something like the SNES core is always 512x224p. You can always take a peek at the resolution by bringing up the hud/menu while in-core and pressing left. The top number should be the original console resolution and the bottom is whatever is being scaled to for HDMI.
Yeah. I am thinking this is more of a software problem than a hardware problem. The Turbografx 16 core is doing something to cause the artifacts. I notice it goes away when I use the HQ2x scandoubler fx.
I wonder if I can downgrade the core and see if that fixes it.
As a kid I lived next to a very rich neighbor who had a 3DO. My fondest memories are definitely Return Fire. That game is still pretty fun today. Also a lot of Star Control II.
Picked up a copy of Thousand Arms the other day. I kinda forgot how good it is? The way it slides between the derpy little chibis and the animated portraits is real cool. The combat is kinda interesting as well. Meis also not nearly as bad as I remembered.
Ooh, Return Fire, forgot that was 3DO. A mate had that on PS1, it was an absolute riot. Sadly another game that appears long gone and un-cloned.
Ok. I seemed to have fixed my Mister problem. I unplugged the HDMI cable while it was running and plugged it back in. I guess it reset something.
Edit: Ah. It came back. I am pretty sure the HDMI port needs to be cleaned. I ordered some contact cleaner on Amazon.
I tried scrubbing it with a toothbrush with some alcohol, but it did not fix it.
I bet that guy on eBay that sold me it did not use it for a while and a little oxidation got in there.
I did order this other stuff, but it was not safe on plastics. This stuff is supposed to be safe on plastics. Unfortunately, I could not cancel the order.
Yeah. I am thinking this is more of a software problem than a hardware problem. The Turbografx 16 core is doing something to cause the artifacts. I notice it goes away when I use the HQ2x scandoubler fx.
I wonder if I can downgrade the core and see if that fixes it.
Doubt its an overall software problem because I've used the turbo core a bunch (including the latest) and never seen any issue. Unless you are running an unstable build or a fork or something other than official. You might also have something misconfigured, or else your configuration is bringing out a real hardware flaw of some kind.
You said you had another Mister that is working I think, try just swapping SD cards between the two, that will reveal real quick if its a software/configuration problem as that is all stored on the SD card.
Grandia on the Saturn is pretty good. You have to use a fan translation.
The PlayStation one is also good, but they messed up some of the textures. It is only noticeable if you look for it.
Apparently, the Saturn version of Policenauts is the best one. That is another fan translated one.
Grandia on the Saturn is much better. The texture variety is better, textures are laid out better, buildings have shadows, and there are other effects that add to the graphical charm and set the two versions apart. The Saturn version also uses the Saturn controller, which has a d-pad that is orders of magnitude better than the PS1's d-pad is. The PS1 version is still a fantastic game though, and the biggest thing it has in its favor is that it is available on the PSN for $5.99 (which makes it significantly simpler/easier to play compared to the Saturn version, which requires you to download a fan translated version as well as have some method for running it on your console). Since its a PS1 game there are also like six different official Sony devices that can run it, let alone the practically infinite number of devices powerful enough for PS1 emulation.
I haven't played Policenauts yet, but it would be interesting to see the differences between versions. Getting a game with so much video looking good with cinepak or truemotion on the Saturn must have been a lot harder than being able to utilize the PS1's MDEC.
Grandia on the Saturn is much better. The texture variety is better, textures are laid out better, buildings have shadows, and there are other effects that add to the graphical charm and set the two versions apart. The Saturn version also uses the Saturn controller, which has a d-pad that is orders of magnitude better than the PS1's d-pad is. The PS1 version is still a fantastic game though, and the biggest thing it has in its favor is that it is available on the PSN for $5.99 (which makes it significantly simpler/easier to play compared to the Saturn version, which requires you to download a fan translated version as well as have some method for running it on your console). Since its a PS1 game there are also like six different official Sony devices that can run it, let alone the practically infinite number of devices powerful enough for PS1 emulation.
Yeah, people often go on about how much better the Saturn version of Grandia is, but at the end of the day, a minor graphical improvement is completely trumped by the convenience of not having to deal with the Saturn version.
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The translation of Grandia has some real lazy errors too. Your early armor called the Sun Best, for instance.
I will try the contact cleaner on that Turbo Duo card slot that is not working. That may be the problem.
I find it hard to believe putting a little cloth on the end of a Hu card broke it. The slot should be similar to what is in an NES.
I thought people might be interested in this here. Dude got C&Dd by Sega so is just releasing it for free and letting people donate if they want. Real cool Mega Drive stuff.
... at the end of the day, a minor graphical improvement is completely trumped by the convenience of not having to deal with the Saturn version.
Yes and no. The increased difficulty in procuring a Saturn version (not just in regards to Grandia, but for any multiplat from the era that either runs better on the Saturn, has more features, or has unique enough differences to make it worth checking out) is essentially mitigated by the fact that if you already have a Saturn you should already have a method for playing backups/disc images/etc. If you have a Saturn and you are limiting yourself to physical retail discs only than you are, officially, fucking up. The price delta between PS1 and Saturn multiplats is completely bonkers. As an example, for someone who owns both a Saturn and a PS1, is it worth spending an extra $100+ to play a slightly better version of Megaman X4? Not really... but, when the barrier to entry is reduced to either "literally nothing" or "whatever a blank CDR costs these days", you might as well play the slightly better version.
We're long past the days of "I scored the system and a stack of games for $20 at a yard sale", but you can still get Japanese Saturn bundles for $100 or less with shipping included, and a pre-flashed PseudoSaturn cart is between $40 and $50 (or you can get a dirt cheap 4-in-1 and flash it yourself). For less than $150 you can get the system and access to its entire library, which is a pretty good deal (these are NA prices, I don't know what they would be elsewhere in the world). It's not exactly impulse buy territory, but it's also not an insurmountable amount. It's not like we're talking about the Neo Geo AES here.
I am one of the like 7 people who owned a Dreamcast. Grandia 2, Skies of Arcadia, Phantasy Star Online, all great good times.
The Sega Beigewedge 128 is a fantastic console. The only major flaw it has from a modern perspective is that practically all of its best games have been ported, re-released, or remastered on newer systems, making it difficult to justify the expenditure of getting one considering the low number of true exclusives. The first time I saw one was in a demo kiosk at a Toys R' Us back in 1999. It was running Sonic Adventure, and the high res graphics, bright colors, and insane sense of speed blew my mind straight out of my ass. It was like nothing I had ever seen before.
I kind of miss when they had video game food. They got Minecraft cereal that is actually pretty good.
A possible downside was constantly marketing towards kids meant the public perceived video games in general as only appropriate for kids. That is, Mario toys in McDonalds Happy Meals were a foot in the door that allowed Joe Lieberman to attempt to regulate the video game industry.
I wiggled the HDMI connection up and down on the Mister and it seems to have fixed the problem. I guess it scraped the metal pins together a little bit.
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Edit: I dunno why my phone keeps capitalizing the word "component" but whatever.
Shipping ETA is March btw.
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It is not scan lines. I changed the resolution and it went away for a little bit, but it came back.
I actually have an extra Nano board. I can try swapping that in.
One thing I have not tried is the update all script. I could try running that and see if it fixes things.
Edit: I fixed the problem. I set the vsync to low lag and set HDMI to game mode.
Did you end up getting that other Nano board you ordered from the Manufacturer?
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Yes. It turned out that the line problem showed up again. I switched out the Nano board with the new one and it seems to have fixed it.
That is what I get for buying a used Mister. I think something went wrong with the board.
I also have a new usb board, but that didn't seem to work. I got this other one you plug power into.
The usb board I am using has a cable on it that goes into the micro usb slot.
One thing I have not tried is cleaning the HDMI port on the Nano board.
What I can do is put together another Mister and continue testing with the bad board. It is just such a minor, but annoying problem.
I don't quite get what the problem this. It is like lines of pixels on the screen are darker or different colors.
Looks pretty cool.
Picked up a copy of Thousand Arms the other day. I kinda forgot how good it is? The way it slides between the derpy little chibis and the animated portraits is real cool. The combat is kinda interesting as well. Meis also not nearly as bad as I remembered.
What was that indie racer that's a homage to F-Zero that's supposed to be very good? It had polygonal graphics and hover cars and looping tracks.
The PlayStation one is also good, but they messed up some of the textures. It is only noticeable if you look for it.
Apparently, the Saturn version of Policenauts is the best one. That is another fan translated one.
I wonder if I can downgrade the core and see if that fixes it.
Ooh, Return Fire, forgot that was 3DO. A mate had that on PS1, it was an absolute riot. Sadly another game that appears long gone and un-cloned.
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Edit: Ah. It came back. I am pretty sure the HDMI port needs to be cleaned. I ordered some contact cleaner on Amazon.
I tried scrubbing it with a toothbrush with some alcohol, but it did not fix it.
I bet that guy on eBay that sold me it did not use it for a while and a little oxidation got in there.
I am going to use some of this stuff on the HDMI port. I read a review that this guy used this stuff to get some HDMI ports working again on his tv.
https://www.amazon.com/DeoxIT-D5S-6-Contact-Cleaner-Integrated/dp/B0002BBV4G/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
I did order this other stuff, but it was not safe on plastics. This stuff is supposed to be safe on plastics. Unfortunately, I could not cancel the order.
Doubt its an overall software problem because I've used the turbo core a bunch (including the latest) and never seen any issue. Unless you are running an unstable build or a fork or something other than official. You might also have something misconfigured, or else your configuration is bringing out a real hardware flaw of some kind.
You said you had another Mister that is working I think, try just swapping SD cards between the two, that will reveal real quick if its a software/configuration problem as that is all stored on the SD card.
Grandia on the Saturn is much better. The texture variety is better, textures are laid out better, buildings have shadows, and there are other effects that add to the graphical charm and set the two versions apart. The Saturn version also uses the Saturn controller, which has a d-pad that is orders of magnitude better than the PS1's d-pad is. The PS1 version is still a fantastic game though, and the biggest thing it has in its favor is that it is available on the PSN for $5.99 (which makes it significantly simpler/easier to play compared to the Saturn version, which requires you to download a fan translated version as well as have some method for running it on your console). Since its a PS1 game there are also like six different official Sony devices that can run it, let alone the practically infinite number of devices powerful enough for PS1 emulation.
I haven't played Policenauts yet, but it would be interesting to see the differences between versions. Getting a game with so much video looking good with cinepak or truemotion on the Saturn must have been a lot harder than being able to utilize the PS1's MDEC.
Yeah, people often go on about how much better the Saturn version of Grandia is, but at the end of the day, a minor graphical improvement is completely trumped by the convenience of not having to deal with the Saturn version.
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197970666737/
I find it hard to believe putting a little cloth on the end of a Hu card broke it. The slot should be similar to what is in an NES.
There is a more recent game called GRIP made by some of the same people that is pretty good.
GRIP isn't the game I was thinking of but it also looks good. Thanks.
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I thought people might be interested in this here. Dude got C&Dd by Sega so is just releasing it for free and letting people donate if they want. Real cool Mega Drive stuff.
That makes sense.
Yes and no. The increased difficulty in procuring a Saturn version (not just in regards to Grandia, but for any multiplat from the era that either runs better on the Saturn, has more features, or has unique enough differences to make it worth checking out) is essentially mitigated by the fact that if you already have a Saturn you should already have a method for playing backups/disc images/etc. If you have a Saturn and you are limiting yourself to physical retail discs only than you are, officially, fucking up. The price delta between PS1 and Saturn multiplats is completely bonkers. As an example, for someone who owns both a Saturn and a PS1, is it worth spending an extra $100+ to play a slightly better version of Megaman X4? Not really... but, when the barrier to entry is reduced to either "literally nothing" or "whatever a blank CDR costs these days", you might as well play the slightly better version.
We're long past the days of "I scored the system and a stack of games for $20 at a yard sale", but you can still get Japanese Saturn bundles for $100 or less with shipping included, and a pre-flashed PseudoSaturn cart is between $40 and $50 (or you can get a dirt cheap 4-in-1 and flash it yourself). For less than $150 you can get the system and access to its entire library, which is a pretty good deal (these are NA prices, I don't know what they would be elsewhere in the world). It's not exactly impulse buy territory, but it's also not an insurmountable amount. It's not like we're talking about the Neo Geo AES here.
The Sega Beigewedge 128 is a fantastic console. The only major flaw it has from a modern perspective is that practically all of its best games have been ported, re-released, or remastered on newer systems, making it difficult to justify the expenditure of getting one considering the low number of true exclusives. The first time I saw one was in a demo kiosk at a Toys R' Us back in 1999. It was running Sonic Adventure, and the high res graphics, bright colors, and insane sense of speed blew my mind straight out of my ass. It was like nothing I had ever seen before.
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A possible downside was constantly marketing towards kids meant the public perceived video games in general as only appropriate for kids. That is, Mario toys in McDonalds Happy Meals were a foot in the door that allowed Joe Lieberman to attempt to regulate the video game industry.
You aren't thinking of Fast RMX are you?
No, this was an indie game on PC and I'm not sure if it was done or in development. Fast RMX doesn't look bad, either.
Wasn't there just Mario Cereal a few years ago? I still have the free "Amiibo" that came in the box.