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A talking picture? Well, now I've heard everything. [movies]

3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheeseRegistered User regular
edited May 2023 in Social Entropy++
I am informed that despite our best efforts, movies are still being made.

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    Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    Knock at the cabin would have been exponentially better if it ended 5 minutes earlier. Not even change anything, just run credits 5 minutes earlier

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    CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular

    Rust is a movie that is still being made

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    minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    edited February 2023
    Bloods End wrote: »
    Knock at the cabin would have been exponentially better if it ended 5 minutes earlier. Not even change anything, just run credits 5 minutes earlier

    I feel like this about a lot of movies and tv shows. In fact, when one ends exactly at the moment I REALLY want it to, it sticks with me and bounces around in my brain forever. And sometimes it’s literally just a few seconds.

    The Watchmen series is the best example I can think of where they just nailed this.

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    Guys you should all subscribe to the Criterion Channel in March so you can watch The Heroic Trio

    That movie has the most buck wild last twenty minutes you’ll maybe ever see

    I can’t stress this enough

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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    Re:Discussions about CGI in MCU movies.

    Reminder that at this point CGI studios are (largely because of MCU movies) extremely over-burdened to the point that vast amounts of overworked artists are fleeing the industry. The MCU recently announced they were going to pull back on the amount of content they are producing and I can't help but think it's largely because they CANT keep making these movies at this pace.

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited February 2023
    Re:Discussions about CGI in MCU movies.

    Reminder that at this point CGI studios are (largely because of MCU movies) extremely over-burdened to the point that vast amounts of overworked artists are fleeing the industry. The MCU recently announced they were going to pull back on the amount of content they are producing and I can't help but think it's largely because they CANT keep making these movies at this pace.

    it's not just the MCU, it's the entire industry chewing up and spitting out cgi studios, and doing it for peanuts

    disney is just the biggest player in a completely ratfucked industry

    EDIT: but yeah, their number crunchers finally realized that their pace was totally unsustainable and was causing audience burnout too

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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Re:Discussions about CGI in MCU movies.

    Reminder that at this point CGI studios are (largely because of MCU movies) extremely over-burdened to the point that vast amounts of overworked artists are fleeing the industry. The MCU recently announced they were going to pull back on the amount of content they are producing and I can't help but think it's largely because they CANT keep making these movies at this pace.

    it's not just the MCU, it's the entire industry chewing up and spitting out cgi studios, and doing it for peanuts

    disney is just the biggest player in a completely ratfucked industry

    EDIT: but yeah, they're number crunchers finally realized that their pace was totally unsustainable and was causing audience burnout too

    In point of fact the articles I've read actually specifically call out the MCU. That's why I brought it up. The MCU so thoroughly places demands on these studios that other movies are having trouble getting in.

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    ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Re:Discussions about CGI in MCU movies.

    Reminder that at this point CGI studios are (largely because of MCU movies) extremely over-burdened to the point that vast amounts of overworked artists are fleeing the industry. The MCU recently announced they were going to pull back on the amount of content they are producing and I can't help but think it's largely because they CANT keep making these movies at this pace.

    it's not just the MCU, it's the entire industry chewing up and spitting out cgi studios, and doing it for peanuts

    disney is just the biggest player in a completely ratfucked industry

    EDIT: but yeah, they're number crunchers finally realized that their pace was totally unsustainable and was causing audience burnout too

    In point of fact the articles I've read actually specifically call out the MCU. That's why I brought it up. The MCU so thoroughly places demands on these studios that other movies are having trouble getting in.

    Hard to make the choice to focus on other films when Disney can punish you by pulling away the consistent (and SHITTY) workflow of the MCU from your studio.

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited February 2023
    still remember when life of pi won the oscar and the studio that did the work closed due to bankruptcy

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    cursedkingcursedking Registered User regular
    Coinage wrote: »

    Rust is a movie that is still being made

    Honestly shocked at this

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    crzyangocrzyango Registered User regular
    edited February 2023
    cursedking wrote: »
    Coinage wrote: »

    Rust is a movie that is still being made

    Honestly shocked at this

    Producers pushed to finish Midnight Rider and that had zero big names attached. Not shocked that a movie that doesn't care about the crew with a Baldwin attached is getting pushed through.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_Rider_(film)

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    crzyango wrote: »
    cursedking wrote: »
    Coinage wrote: »

    Rust is a movie that is still being made

    Honestly shocked at this

    Producers pushed to finish Midnight Rider and that had zero big names attached. Not shocked that a movie that doesn't care about the crew with a Baldwin attached is getting pushed through.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_Rider_(film)

    midnight rider had several big names attached to it

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    also, The Crow wherein the main actor died in production

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Twilight Zone is just sort of forever lodged in my brain as The terrible film tragedy

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    crzyangocrzyango Registered User regular
    edited February 2023
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    crzyango wrote: »
    cursedking wrote: »
    Coinage wrote: »

    Rust is a movie that is still being made

    Honestly shocked at this

    Producers pushed to finish Midnight Rider and that had zero big names attached. Not shocked that a movie that doesn't care about the crew with a Baldwin attached is getting pushed through.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_Rider_(film)

    midnight rider had several big names attached to it

    William Hurt and Eliza Dushku as actors, not producers. Please don't "well actually" a thing that still affects the industry I exist in IN the state I work within it. I'm pointing out that the film industry doesn't fucking care about me as a person, and they will avoid responsibility wherever they can.

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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Rust just got a SHITLOAD of free advertisement.

    I’m not surprised they’re finishing it now

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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Free relative to business…it cost a person their life.

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    crzyangocrzyango Registered User regular
    Sorry, this pissed me off and someone else said it better:
    Today is my birthday, and it is always a grim reminder of a tragic event that happened 8 years ago now, on the set of “Midnight Rider’.

    Film Set Safety has been an ever present discussion on both television and movie sets and in contract negotiations. Film Technicians have to pass “Safety Courses” in order to be able to work.

    Are sets any safer since the death of my friend, Camera Assistant Brent Lon Hershman almost 25 years ago?
    The answer is a resounding NO!

    Just this past October, Cinematographer Halyna Hutchins died of a gunshot wound, right on the set of “Rust”. Another needless, and preventable film set tragedy.

    But back to Midnight Rider.
    We discussed the scene and location a week earlier at a Production Meeting and in attendance was the Location Manager, his assistant, the AD's, LP/UPM, Producer, crew, etc. The "only two freight trains" concept was expressed here.

    We will never know why the Location Manager didn't speak up to say that CSX, (whose rail tracks we would be shooting on), had not given us permission to be there. Nor did any Production Executive or AD express that this was a huge insurance liability?

    So on February 20th, 2014, the crew arrived at the Rayonier plant in Wayne county, Doctortown, GA, and we watched as the "two freight trains" passed. Then setup on the trestle bridge over the Altamaha river, the site of a Civil War battle.

    We all know the disaster that happened when a third train came at us traveling at 58MPH, hitting pieces of the hospital bed that the crew was desperately trying to remove from the tracks. Shrapnel pieces went flying, striking and killing 27 year old Camera Assistant, Sarah Jones, and inflicting injuries on seven more of the crew.

    A horrific and senseless death on a film set, where nothing like this should ever happen. But it does, and continues, no matter how many safety classes the crew are instructed to take, or the countless "Safety Meetings" by the 1st AD at the start of each day.

    It's great that film crews are more aware of safety issues and production offers hotel rooms for those excessively long days. But injuries and deaths will still happen until there is the position of an independent "Safety Monitor", who is not part of the crew, AD's, Production or Studio.

    No matter what is written, said or enacted depends on Unions and Guilds taking a stronger position on this issue.

    I'm tired of being thought of as the "troublemaker" when I bring up safety issues on a set. I speak from experience, and unfortunately have to remind them of my day on "Midnight Rider" for them to acknowledge the safety problem.

    Management should be responsible, not the crew!
    Thinking of Sarah Jones

    @PiptheFair sorry if I came off aggressive. I deal with this shit daily and it SUCKS.

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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    Antman 3
    If Kang is going to keep appearing which he definitely is I sure hopefully find someone to write them that has any idea what the fuck they're doing. Because they do not do a good job of making him compelling or make me at all interested in seeing him again. And that's speaking as someone with some pretty positive associations with the character.

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    A bunch of mid-budget comedies have been doing well at the box office so far this year and a bunch of entertainment journalists are like, "what? are mediocre movies going to save cinema????" and it's like, yeah, there's precedent for people just wanting to go to the movies and see whatever, and sixty year-olds with disposable income and free time are probably gonna sign up to see Tom Hanks play a cranky old man who finds friendship and community before they're going to watch the newest MCU blockbuster.

    That's not me saying the MCU is dying, because Ant-Man 3 definitely made a bunch of money, but like...studios used to counterprogram big superhero movies or other blockbusters with romantic comedies and other lower budget movies and do just fine. I know there are multiple reasons that this doesn't happen as often anymore, given that Disney strongarms theaters into making sure they have as many screens as possible, and that Netflix has a stranglehold on the "slap a big name on a movie our algorithm spit out," market, but...I dunno, feels like there's something of a shift happening in the market.

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    FANTOMASFANTOMAS Flan ArgentavisRegistered User regular
    DJ Eebs wrote: »
    A bunch of mid-budget comedies have been doing well at the box office so far this year and a bunch of entertainment journalists are like, "what? are mediocre movies going to save cinema????" and it's like, yeah, there's precedent for people just wanting to go to the movies and see whatever, and sixty year-olds with disposable income and free time are probably gonna sign up to see Tom Hanks play a cranky old man who finds friendship and community before they're going to watch the newest MCU blockbuster.

    That's not me saying the MCU is dying, because Ant-Man 3 definitely made a bunch of money, but like...studios used to counterprogram big superhero movies or other blockbusters with romantic comedies and other lower budget movies and do just fine. I know there are multiple reasons that this doesn't happen as often anymore, given that Disney strongarms theaters into making sure they have as many screens as possible, and that Netflix has a stranglehold on the "slap a big name on a movie our algorithm spit out," market, but...I dunno, feels like there's something of a shift happening in the market.

    I know you probably mean budget/profit, but leaving money aside, the MCU movies have been the standard for mediocrity for like a decade. Except for budget and marketing, they are great at those.

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    Mortal SkyMortal Sky queer punk hedge witchRegistered User regular
    I got last-paged on this last thread but, at this point the only upcoming thing in the MCU I'm really stoked about is GotG3, and basically everything after that feels whatever/10

    if Wakanda Forever and GotG3 are the capstone of the MCU for me I can live with that

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    LadaiLadai Registered User regular
    Isn't there a new Blade coming out at some point? I think that's really the only one I'm kinda/sorta looking forward to.

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    SnicketysnickSnicketysnick The Greatest Hype Man in WesterosRegistered User regular
    I think Blade is supposed to maybe start shooting sometime this year but honestly, who knows

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    FANTOMAS wrote: »
    DJ Eebs wrote: »
    A bunch of mid-budget comedies have been doing well at the box office so far this year and a bunch of entertainment journalists are like, "what? are mediocre movies going to save cinema????" and it's like, yeah, there's precedent for people just wanting to go to the movies and see whatever, and sixty year-olds with disposable income and free time are probably gonna sign up to see Tom Hanks play a cranky old man who finds friendship and community before they're going to watch the newest MCU blockbuster.

    That's not me saying the MCU is dying, because Ant-Man 3 definitely made a bunch of money, but like...studios used to counterprogram big superhero movies or other blockbusters with romantic comedies and other lower budget movies and do just fine. I know there are multiple reasons that this doesn't happen as often anymore, given that Disney strongarms theaters into making sure they have as many screens as possible, and that Netflix has a stranglehold on the "slap a big name on a movie our algorithm spit out," market, but...I dunno, feels like there's something of a shift happening in the market.

    I know you probably mean budget/profit, but leaving money aside, the MCU movies have been the standard for mediocrity for like a decade. Except for budget and marketing, they are great at those.

    I feel like it was pretty clear that I was referring to stuff like 80 for Brady and not Ant-Man 3

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    CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular

    And this was the only problem moviepass had

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    Has someone made an insufferable podcast miniseries that'll get ripped off for an insufferable Peacock miniseries about what happened at Moviepass yet

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    minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    We joke a lot about companies blowing their revenue on coke, but every once in a while we’re actually right.

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    SatanIsMyMotorSatanIsMyMotor Fuck Warren Ellis Registered User regular
    crzyango wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    crzyango wrote: »
    cursedking wrote: »
    Coinage wrote: »

    Rust is a movie that is still being made

    Honestly shocked at this

    Producers pushed to finish Midnight Rider and that had zero big names attached. Not shocked that a movie that doesn't care about the crew with a Baldwin attached is getting pushed through.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_Rider_(film)

    midnight rider had several big names attached to it

    William Hurt and Eliza Dushku as actors, not producers. Please don't "well actually" a thing that still affects the industry I exist in IN the state I work within it. I'm pointing out that the film industry doesn't fucking care about me as a person, and they will avoid responsibility wherever they can.

    I don't know if I'd say you're being "well actuallyed" here. You said there were no big names attached to the film but there were. That takes nothing away from your experience or the severity of what happened.

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    MalReynoldsMalReynolds The Hunter S Thompson of incredibly mild medicines Registered User regular
    Bloods End wrote: »
    Knock at the cabin would have been exponentially better if it ended 5 minutes earlier. Not even change anything, just run credits 5 minutes earlier

    I feel like this about a lot of movies and tv shows. In fact, when one ends exactly at the moment I REALLY want it to, it sticks with me and bounces around in my brain forever. And sometimes it’s literally just a few seconds.

    The Watchmen series is the best example I can think of where they just nailed this.

    The smashcut to end the end credits on The Prestige is top notch in my book as well.

    "A new take on the epic fantasy genre... Darkly comic, relatable characters... twisted storyline."
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    Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
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    asofyeunasofyeun Registered User regular
    the Everything Everywhere All at Once auction has started and everything got expensive real fast

    The Rockverse Rock is currently going for $5,700

    The Raccacoonie puppet is going for $60,000

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    what about the buttplugs

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    asofyeunasofyeun Registered User regular
    KalTorak wrote: »
    what about the buttplugs

    only $7,500

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    JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    Finally, some delicious fucking movies

    Sisu Red Band trailer in the spoiler

    Folks I gotta tell ya a movie or game or stage play or interpretative dance that is 100% built around the tried and tested concept of Nazis getting absolutely fucking exploded into juice is something I will always support.

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    okay but those SEO sites are absofuckinglutely going to be posting articles titled "cocaine bear ending explained"

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    I can put Googly eyes on a rock if you want to give me five thousand dollars, hmu

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    CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    It might be best to watch Cocaine Bear at home, where you can skip past the rambling sections and go straight to the laughs and screams. In the cinema, most viewers will wish that it was wittier, faster, and more willing to fulfil the gonzo potential of its in-your-face title. It's definitely better than Banks's last film, Charlie's Angels, but you can't help feeling that she has done the bear minimum.
    Are you really proud of that one Nicholas Barber??

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