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Friends Girlfriend Cheating - Again

FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
edited June 2007 in Help / Advice Forum
Alright, here's the situation. One of my closest friends has been going out with this girl, who also happens to be a good friend of mine, for about a year. Their relationship is pretty much the focus of both their lives; however, it does have a number of problems, which I tend to hear about on a daily basis from both parties. Neither of them are particularly honest, so I end up telling a bunch of lies for both of them sometimes - but that isn't really what this thread is about.

I found out last night that his girlfriend cheated on him, and is pretty much planning on doing it again, with another girl who's a friend of mine. Evidently they felt like it was okay because, "she doesn't have a penis", and I'm really torn between my desire to help out a friend with a cheating girlfriend and my desire not to screw two mutual friends over.

Additionally, they were talking about how they'd like to hook up with me. Now, both of these girls are incredibly hot, and the chance of hooking with either of them is enough to make me reconsider just about any course of action. With that added to the mix, I know I'd have no chance with either of them if I 'tattled' and told my friend, so I almost feel as if I should just hold off and see what these girls are up to before I do anything.

Tl;DR- Friends girlfriend having hot lesbian sex with other attractive girl. Possibility of sex from either of the girls for me. Can't decide if I tell friend and ruin chances of action while doing right thing, or trying to hook up with these girls and doing the wrong but incredibly awesome thing.

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  • SliverSliver Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    The solution is clear.

    Screw them both, then nark.
    edit: seriously though. Just rat them out. Unless you feel its' work ruining your friendship.

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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    you're probably going to ruin one friendship out of this no matter what, so you need to decide which friend is more important to you. if you tell your guy friend, the girl won't like you, if you don't tell the guy friend, when he finds out(and he will find out), he'll be pissed at you when he finds out you knew about it before.

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  • Synthetic OrangeSynthetic Orange Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    See if your friend wants to make it a foursome then you can all be happy. Maybe. Otherwise they sound about right for each other by being continually dishonest. Getting into a threesome with the two girls sounds like grief for you further down the road when your friend finds out about it, in addition to being potential blackmail material she has on you.

    If I were you I'd run far far far away.

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  • As7As7 Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    In my opinion you've got to either tell your friend, or make an ultimatum to this girl, "if you don't tell him I will."

    Just because she's a hot chick having sex with another hot chick doesn't make it ok. You said that their relationship is pretty much the focus of their lives, bringing someone, ANYONE else into that probably isn't a good idea.

    And who knows, maybe the boyfriend will be into it...

    ...but I imagine if he was they'd have told him. I mean...the fact that you say you're not really ok with it but in the same breath talk about how if his girlfriend offered to have sex with you you would is kind weird.

    Anyway, please figure out some way to notify this dude. If he's your friend he deserves to know.

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  • JeffHJeffH Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Don't be the guy that cheats on his best friend's girlfriend.

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  • FunkyWaltDoggFunkyWaltDogg Columbia, SCRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    JeffH wrote: »
    Don't be the guy that cheats on his best friend's girlfriend.

    I really have no idea what to tell you for the rest of it, but you don't want to be that guy.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Why don't you just tell the girls "sure, that sounds great. Just make sure it's okay with your boyfriend, first, and I'll totally be into it?"

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  • Panda4YouPanda4You Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Start a blog (not using real names) about the situation?

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  • PirateJonPirateJon Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Just because she's a hot chick having sex with another hot chick doesn't make it ok
    Unamerican Lies. GTFO.
    Thanatos wrote: »
    Why don't you just tell the girls "sure, that sounds great. Just make sure it's okay with your boyfriend, first, and I'll totally be into it?"

    After she lies and says he's cool with it, make sure you send the BF a thank you card. I think hallmark makes a card that says "i just lived your fantasy with your girl and her hot friend. Thanks again buddy! p.s. is she free next weekend?"
    I almost feel as if I should just hold off and see what these girls are up to before I do anything.
    You meant to type "I don't care, i just wanna fuck two hotties at the same time!"

    Go for it. Do them both. Take pics so you can reminisce during the shitstorm this will stir up. You know sooner or later your buddy and his girl will have a fight and she'll say those magic words... "I slept with Fandyien." Can't wait for that. Enjoy!

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  • SonosSonos Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I think you and your circle of 'friends' are absolutely pathetic so do what you will, debased cretins.

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  • Disturbed_1Disturbed_1 Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Wait and see where it goes.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    PirateJon wrote: »
    Thanatos wrote: »
    Why don't you just tell the girls "sure, that sounds great. Just make sure it's okay with your boyfriend, first, and I'll totally be into it?"
    After she lies and says he's cool with it, make sure you send the BF a thank you card. I think hallmark makes a card that says "i just lived your fantasy with your girl and her hot friend. Thanks again buddy! p.s. is she free next weekend?"
    You talk to the boyfriend first, make sure he's cool with it.

    I mean, really, at that point, you're not ratting her out; she lied to you, and got screwed by it. Her fault, not yours.

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited June 2007
    Here's the thing.

    You know what the right thing to do in this situation is. You don't need anyone to tell you that. You have already identified what the right thing is and what the wrong this is

    The problem is that the right thing is difficult, and the wrong thing is tempting. This is a no brainer. Do the right thing.

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  • misbehavinmisbehavin Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    JeffH wrote: »
    Don't be the guy that cheats on his best friend's girlfriend.

    I really have no idea what to tell you for the rest of it, but you don't want to be that guy.

    Seriously, this is the FUCKING TRUTH!

    And, it goes even beyond just "the code" (which is bad enough)... you also don't want to get your fucking ass kicked! A friend of mine was "that guy" in high school, and while it was ABSOLUTELY THE WRONG RESPONSE (I should have been the bigger man and just walked away), I ended up beating the fucking piss out of him and haven't talked to him since.

    Be the bigger man! Show the world you're not controlled by your fucking dick... There will be other girls, even really hot ones... Hell, I see 10 SMOKING hotties everytime I walk to lunch through my schools quad... Seriously, don't do it...

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  • SerphimeraSerphimera Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    They both sound like jerks. They really shouldn't be involving you in their relationship like this.

    In the interest of keeping them both as "friends", find a way of getting him the info w/o actually telling him.

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  • FalloutFallout ( ๑‾̀◡‾́)σ" Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Here's the thing.

    You know what the right thing to do in this situation is. You don't need anyone to tell you that. You have already identified what the right thing is and what the wrong this is

    The problem is that the right thing is difficult, and the wrong thing is tempting. This is a no brainer. Do the right thing.

    Amen.

    You can get laid elsewhere, maybe with this chick that his girl cheated on him with, who knows. But don't fuck around with your friends' girlfriends, that will inevitably ruin that friendship and make you something akin to scum.

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  • AccualtAccualt Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Here's the thing.

    You know what the right thing to do in this situation is. You don't need anyone to tell you that. You have already identified what the right thing is and what the wrong this is

    The problem is that the right thing is difficult, and the wrong thing is tempting. This is a no brainer. Do the right thing.

    Tube is right. I know this because he said what I was going to say.
    Though I probably would have added some lame joke about two shafts and six holes.

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited June 2007
    In that case I retract it and apologise for breaking the bad advice rule.

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  • CaswynbenCaswynben Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    What is stopping you from banging the girl who doesn't have a boyfriend?

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  • Rabid_LlamaRabid_Llama Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Friends come and go. Threesomes are somthing that you can remember and brag about forever.

    Seriously though, don't hook up with your friends girlfriend. That is just fucked up. But the other chick sounds like fair game, you should go for it with her.

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  • PirateJonPirateJon Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Friends come and go. Threesomes are somthing that you can remember and brag about forever.

    fixed.

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  • AccualtAccualt Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    You really know how to hurt a guy, Tube.
    Seriously though, don't hook up with your friends girlfriend. That is just fucked up. But the other chick sounds like fair game, you should go for it with her.

    Yes, look at her as your consolation prize. If your life is a romantic comedy your friend will be made at you for telling him, his girl will realize how much he means to her, and all four of you will get married at a joint wedding.

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited June 2007
    PirateJon wrote: »
    Friends come and go. Threesomes are somthing that you can remember and brag about forever.

    fixed.

    Your advice is stupid and immature. If he wants a threesome he can get two hookers and do it without hurting anyone.

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  • Vrtra TheoryVrtra Theory Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Just because it hasn't been mentioned yet:
    Additionally, they were talking about how they'd like to hook up with me.

    You already know your buddy's girlfriend is manipulative and dishonest. Why would you assume this is anything more than a (possibly successful) attempt to divert blood flow from your brain?

    This female "friend" of yours is imposing on you enough already by burdening you with the knowledge of her infidelity. Asking you to actively betray your other friend deserves a great big "fuck off", imo.

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  • CaswynbenCaswynben Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    You really don't want to have to turn in your man card.

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  • Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Frederick, MDRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Fuck the other girl, accidentally let the situation slip to your buddy, problem solved.

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  • PirateJonPirateJon Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    PirateJon wrote: »
    Friends come and go. Threesomes are somthing that you can remember and brag about forever.

    fixed.

    Your advice is stupid and immature. If he wants a threesome he can get two hookers and do it without hurting anyone.

    His buddy and his girl aren't really a couple anymore, if they ever were. He's lied to both of them in helping them cover shit up. The girl is proabably already sleeping around and he's lying to his "bud" about it. This whole situation is ALREADY a clusterfuck and there's nothing he can do. He can walk away, he can try to "save their relationship" (dramabomb), or he can get his jollies off AND THEN walk away.
    Best degrassi episode yet!

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  • JeffHJeffH Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    PirateJon wrote: »
    PirateJon wrote: »
    Friends come and go. Threesomes are somthing that you can remember and brag about forever.

    fixed.

    Your advice is stupid and immature. If he wants a threesome he can get two hookers and do it without hurting anyone.

    His buddy and his girl aren't really a couple anymore, if they ever were. He's lied to both of them in helping them cover shit up. The girl is proabably already sleeping around and he's lying to his "bud" about it. This whole situation is ALREADY a clusterfuck and there's nothing he can do. He can walk away, he can try to "save their relationship" (dramabomb), or he can get his jollies off AND THEN walk away.
    Best degrassi episode yet!

    How about having morals? Fucking your buddy's girlfriend is about the lowest of the low, regardless of the situation the two are in. You should never even touch a girl that your friend dated after they broke up (damaged goods avoid that shit), but DURING is a sure way to not only lose your friendship with the guy forever, but is also a sure way to label yourself a fuckhead

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  • HalfmexHalfmex I mock your value system You also appear foolish in the eyes of othersRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    PirateJon wrote: »
    PirateJon wrote: »
    Friends come and go. Threesomes are somthing that you can remember and brag about forever.

    fixed.

    Your advice is stupid and immature. If he wants a threesome he can get two hookers and do it without hurting anyone.

    His buddy and his girl aren't really a couple anymore, if they ever were. He's lied to both of them in helping them cover shit up. The girl is proabably already sleeping around and he's lying to his "bud" about it. This whole situation is ALREADY a clusterfuck and there's nothing he can do. He can walk away, he can try to "save their relationship" (dramabomb), or he can get his jollies off AND THEN walk away.
    Best degrassi episode yet!
    Except that leads to his friend potentially beating the living piss out of him if he ever finds out (which he almost certainly would). No amount of tail is worth the unbelievable amount of drama that this situation would result in, regardless of the OP's decision. The best answer is to simply walk the fuck away. Tell the friend that he's got a whore for a girlfriend and if he's got a solitary active brain cell in his head he'll dump her and get himself tested.

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  • saggiosaggio Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Under no circumstances should you break the code. The girlfriend offering you a threesome with her friend is most likely a way to a) get you on her side and b) control you/stop you from telling your friend (who can't possibly offer you hot lovin' like the girlfriend can).

    The other girl sounds like fair game, though, so if you want to satisfy your penis AND your conscience, go after the other girl and tell your friend that his woman is lying and cheating on him. Done and done.

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  • naporeonnaporeon Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    PirateJon wrote: »
    Friends come and go. Threesomes are somthing that you can remember and brag about forever.

    fixed.

    Your advice is stupid and immature. If he wants a threesome he can get two hookers and do it without hurting anyone.
    Yeah, you can always tell with guys like this. Anyone who acts like a threesome is something that is really hard to find or somehow terribly rare is either very young, or very inexperienced. Or perhaps both.

    As for the OP, I would recommend looking at this like an equation. If you subtract the value of the friendship from the pleasure of the sex you might get, is the result negative? If so, don't do it.

    Yes, it is that simple.

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  • JPArbiterJPArbiter Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    JeffH wrote: »
    PirateJon wrote: »
    PirateJon wrote: »
    Friends come and go. Threesomes are somthing that you can remember and brag about forever.

    fixed.

    Your advice is stupid and immature. If he wants a threesome he can get two hookers and do it without hurting anyone.

    His buddy and his girl aren't really a couple anymore, if they ever were. He's lied to both of them in helping them cover shit up. The girl is proabably already sleeping around and he's lying to his "bud" about it. This whole situation is ALREADY a clusterfuck and there's nothing he can do. He can walk away, he can try to "save their relationship" (dramabomb), or he can get his jollies off AND THEN walk away.
    Best degrassi episode yet!

    How about having morals? Fucking your buddy's girlfriend is about the lowest of the low, regardless of the situation the two are in. You should never even touch a girl that your friend dated after they broke up (damaged goods avoid that shit), but DURING is a sure way to not only lose your friendship with the guy forever, but is also a sure way to label yourself a fuckhead


    How is that a Moral Dillema? Ethical sure but ethics are absolute and deal with the greatest good for the most number of people. Morals are always relative. I could argue that it is immoral to NOT have the threesome, but that is long and convoluted, and because it invovles a threesome would be a theory rejected by christians. As far as the threesome goes it is realy about what the poster wants. DO you want to get invovled with friends girl+1, at the expense of a friendship you may or may not miss?

    it depends on the quality of said friendship. if he was my best buddy as in someone I have known since early childhood, I would not. if he was my best buddy I go to the bar with every so often, and I had not gotten laid in a few months... GO FOR IT.

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  • FalloutFallout ( ๑‾̀◡‾́)σ" Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    JPArbiter wrote: »
    JeffH wrote: »
    PirateJon wrote: »
    PirateJon wrote: »
    Friends come and go. Threesomes are somthing that you can remember and brag about forever.

    fixed.

    Your advice is stupid and immature. If he wants a threesome he can get two hookers and do it without hurting anyone.

    His buddy and his girl aren't really a couple anymore, if they ever were. He's lied to both of them in helping them cover shit up. The girl is proabably already sleeping around and he's lying to his "bud" about it. This whole situation is ALREADY a clusterfuck and there's nothing he can do. He can walk away, he can try to "save their relationship" (dramabomb), or he can get his jollies off AND THEN walk away.
    Best degrassi episode yet!

    How about having morals? Fucking your buddy's girlfriend is about the lowest of the low, regardless of the situation the two are in. You should never even touch a girl that your friend dated after they broke up (damaged goods avoid that shit), but DURING is a sure way to not only lose your friendship with the guy forever, but is also a sure way to label yourself a fuckhead


    How is that a Moral Dillema? Ethical sure but ethics are absolute and deal with the greatest good for the most number of people. Morals are always relative. I could argue that it is immoral to NOT have the threesome, but that is long and convoluted, and because it invovles a threesome would be a theory rejected by christians. As far as the threesome goes it is realy about what the poster wants. DO you want to get invovled with friends girl+1, at the expense of a friendship you may or may not miss?

    it depends on the quality of said friendship. if he was my best buddy as in someone I have known since early childhood, I would not. if he was my best buddy I go to the bar with every so often, and I had not gotten laid in a few months... GO FOR IT.

    Shut up. Any person worth his existence would not fuck his friend's girlfriend.

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  • SudsSuds Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I think the saying, "bros before hos" is appropriate here.

    Be a good friend.

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  • JeffHJeffH Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Fallout wrote: »
    JPArbiter wrote: »
    How is that a Moral Dillema? Ethical sure but ethics are absolute and deal with the greatest good for the most number of people. Morals are always relative. I could argue that it is immoral to NOT have the threesome, but that is long and convoluted, and because it invovles a threesome would be a theory rejected by christians. As far as the threesome goes it is realy about what the poster wants. DO you want to get invovled with friends girl+1, at the expense of a friendship you may or may not miss?

    it depends on the quality of said friendship. if he was my best buddy as in someone I have known since early childhood, I would not. if he was my best buddy I go to the bar with every so often, and I had not gotten laid in a few months... GO FOR IT.

    Shut up. Any person worth his existence would not fuck his friend's girlfriend.

    Seriously, what is wrong with you? Do you need a list of reasons this is a bad idea?

    1. Shows no respect for your friendship, your friend, or yourself. This should be enough.
    2. You are fucking a girl that is blatantly using you. Again no respect for the girl or for yourself.
    3. You in all likelihood lose your friendship with this guy (he will find out).
    4. When you are found out more than likely this guy's friends will side with him, and you'll have a big group of people thinking you're a fuck or wanting to beat your ass. If you go to school together, prepare for uncomfortable times ahead!
    5. Other girls that find out about this will likely stay away from you (besides maybe slutty ones like the one you got with)

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  • CaswynbenCaswynben Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Threesomes happen, dogg. Your man card is forever.

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  • JeffHJeffH Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Caswynben wrote: »
    Threesomes happen, dogg. Your man card is forever.

    Might as well make it a foursome, since your fucking your best bud too. Since when are threesomes the holy grail? Threesomes aren't hard to get.

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  • CaswynbenCaswynben Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    That is what I said. Threesomes come and go.

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  • JeffHJeffH Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Sorry, I read/interpreted your post wrong.

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  • ZekZek Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Seriously, if being loyal to your friend isn't reason enough here, think about it another way. You want nothing to do with your buddy's lying cheating bitch of a girlfriend. Her friend is not much better. Nothing good will come of banging either of them.

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