Happy Steamboat Willy Day

JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
Newly entering the public domain in 2024 will be:

works by people who died in 1953, for countries with a copyright term of “life plus 70 years” (e.g. UK, Russia, most of EU and South America);
works by people who died in 1973, for countries with a term of “life plus 50 years” (e.g. New Zealand, and most of Africa and Asia);
films and books (incl. artworks featured) published in 1928 for the United States.
The House at Pooh Corner by A. A. Milne, including the character Tigger, enters the public domain in 2024. Notable films entering the public domain in the United States include Abie's Irish Rose, Charlie Chaplin's The Circus, In Old Arizona, The Man Who Laughs, Noah's Ark, The Passion of Joan of Arc, Lights of New York, The Singing Fool, and Harold Lloyd's final silent feature Speedy.

Additional notable works entering the public domain in the United States include Lady Chatterley's Lover by D. H. Lawrence, Orlando: A Biography by Virginia Woolf, The Well of Loneliness by Radclyffe Hall, Millions of Cats by Wanda Gág, Decline and Fall by Evelyn Waugh, The Mystery of the Blue Train by Agatha Christie, Story of the Eye by Georges Bataille, The Threepenny Opera by Bertolt Brecht, and An American in Paris by George Gershwin.

And of course, the biggun
The earliest incarnation of Mickey Mouse as well as Minnie Mouse enters the public domain work in 2024 through Steamboat Willie and The Gallopin' Gaucho.

Disney no longer will have any REAL reason to keep pushing for copyright extension, so the clock will continue marching onwards.

Worth noting that death+50 years countries also includes JRR Tolkien this year.

Anyway, early happy Steamboat Willie Day.

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  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    I'm considering uploading a copy of Steamboat Willie to my Youtube Account on 1st of January (in US time) as a thing.

  • never dienever die Registered User regular
    I’m curious why Disney didn’t fight it this time.

  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    never die wrote: »
    I’m curious why Disney didn’t fight it this time.

    so partially it's that they've managed to argue that there are only VERY SPECIFIC ATTRIBUTES of Steamboat Willie Mickey Mouse that are public domain

    if your mickey talks, you're fucked, they're coming for your ass. is he friendly? oh no you don't fucker, steamboat willie mickey mouse is a mischievous shitter. your ass is ours now.

    even if you think you're in the clear with your depiction...are you gonna risk the lawsuit?

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  • GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    I'm not sure if the Tolkien thing in NZ is true anymore? I was certainly looking forward to it, but we might have rejigged things since.

  • GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    edited December 2023
    Oh, it's still true, but we are in the process of adding 20 years to copyright based on a 2021 free trade agreement with the UK (fuck free trade agreements by the way). I'm not sure how it works if a work goes into the public domain but then the law is changed later? I would assume that it stays in the public domain as that makes sense, but money says that it probably retroactively stays under copyright.

    Gvzbgul on
  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7V3dqxWM7g

    Uploaded this on New Years Day because why not.

  • spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    I honestly did not believe it was ever going to happen.

  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    spool32 wrote: »
    I honestly did not believe it was ever going to happen.

    While there's positive signs of people just being way more aware of copyright issues than last time, there's a negativeish one where some GOP congresscritters was trying to set up a "never extend copyright" oath to punish Disney for criticising DeSantis' policies.

  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    never die wrote: »
    I’m curious why Disney didn’t fight it this time.

    Getting something through congress these days is kind of unreliable. There's just so much obstructionism, partisanship and an entire political party that's decided that doing nothing and achieving nothing is better than letting their opponents eke even a compromised win.

  • milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    never die wrote: »
    I’m curious why Disney didn’t fight it this time.

    Getting something through congress these days is kind of unreliable. There's just so much obstructionism, partisanship and an entire political party that's decided that doing nothing and achieving nothing is better than letting their opponents eke even a compromised win.

    Disney was also relatively open about not signing on to help other companies lobby for it because it’s a PR disaster for very limited benefit for them; their image is more important than specifically steamboat Willie.

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    I mean, if Disney was smart, they'd realize this is the most people have talked about Mickey Mouse in like a decade.

  • Kane Red RobeKane Red Robe Master of Magic ArcanusRegistered User regular
    I mean, if Disney was smart, they'd realize this is the most people have talked about Mickey Mouse in like a decade.

    As a parent I assure you that isn't the case.

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    milski wrote: »
    never die wrote: »
    I’m curious why Disney didn’t fight it this time.

    Getting something through congress these days is kind of unreliable. There's just so much obstructionism, partisanship and an entire political party that's decided that doing nothing and achieving nothing is better than letting their opponents eke even a compromised win.

    Disney was also relatively open about not signing on to help other companies lobby for it because it’s a PR disaster for very limited benefit for them; their image is more important than specifically steamboat Willie.

    If Disney was smart they wouldn't have fought so hard to keep the copyrights from expiring. How did Disney make a huge amount of its fortune? By making bank off of shit in the public domain. Yeah, you lose Mickey Mouse. Boo fucking hoo. You also would have had superman, batman, and bugs bunny by now you idiots. And most of Marvel without having to pay a single red cent.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    milski wrote: »
    never die wrote: »
    I’m curious why Disney didn’t fight it this time.

    Getting something through congress these days is kind of unreliable. There's just so much obstructionism, partisanship and an entire political party that's decided that doing nothing and achieving nothing is better than letting their opponents eke even a compromised win.

    Disney was also relatively open about not signing on to help other companies lobby for it because it’s a PR disaster for very limited benefit for them; their image is more important than specifically steamboat Willie.

    If Disney was smart they wouldn't have fought so hard to keep the copyrights from expiring. How did Disney make a huge amount of its fortune? By making bank off of shit in the public domain. Yeah, you lose Mickey Mouse. Boo fucking hoo. You also would have had superman, batman, and bugs bunny by now you idiots. And most of Marvel without having to pay a single red cent.

    But so would everyone else. Disney doesn't just want access to ip, they want ownership. Better to own Superman than just own one version of dozens.

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 4
    milski wrote: »
    never die wrote: »
    I’m curious why Disney didn’t fight it this time.

    Getting something through congress these days is kind of unreliable. There's just so much obstructionism, partisanship and an entire political party that's decided that doing nothing and achieving nothing is better than letting their opponents eke even a compromised win.

    Disney was also relatively open about not signing on to help other companies lobby for it because it’s a PR disaster for very limited benefit for them; their image is more important than specifically steamboat Willie.

    If Disney was smart they wouldn't have fought so hard to keep the copyrights from expiring. How did Disney make a huge amount of its fortune? By making bank off of shit in the public domain. Yeah, you lose Mickey Mouse. Boo fucking hoo. You also would have had superman, batman, and bugs bunny by now you idiots. And most of Marvel without having to pay a single red cent.

    But so would everyone else. Disney doesn't just want access to ip, they want ownership. Better to own Superman than just own one version of dozens.

    They have ownership over their version of it.

    EDIT: They could have made more money at the 'cost' of other people instead making money too. So instead they made less money so other people could also make less money.

    Munkus Beaver on
    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • FCDFCD Registered User regular
    The suits just prefer control to cash, I guess.

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  • GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    TBH, copyright is wildly overrated. We got along fine without it for longer than we've had it. And we'll get along fine without it when it finally dies.

  • MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    I don't know 'bout no copyright but I do know this

    Turkey in the Straw: still a bop

  • MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    Another legal issue I'd like to bring up which feels like a law school exam throwback:

    Everything Steamboat Willie does in this bit is clearly animal abuse, but does he get off the hook because he is not himself a man?

  • GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    Wouldn't that fall on the animal's owner? Like, if Disney's dog attacked someone, Disney would be responsible. If Disney's mouse is being cruel to animals, that's Disney's responsibility also.

  • MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    Yeah but if it's a "you're responsible for your animal" that's generally not a crime it's a civil action based on negligence or recklessness rather than criminal intent.

    If the cost to Disney of the lawsuit is lower than the profits made from selling the cartoon, there's nothing incentivizing him from letting the mouse swing other cats around by the tail for the public's amusement.

  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Finally I can release Steamdick Willy!

  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Actually…I could write up something with Steampunk Willy…

  • DisruptedCapitalistDisruptedCapitalist I swear! Registered User regular
    Meh. To much effort, just give it to an AI to write.

    "Simple, real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time." -Mustrum Ridcully in Terry Pratchett's Hogfather p. 142 (HarperPrism 1996)
  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Meh. To much effort, just give it to an AI to write.

    Let see

    AI WROTE

    In the bustling city of Gearville, Steampunk Willie, a daring inventor with a heart of brass, sailed his steam-powered paddleboat through the whirring gears of the Industrial River. With his trusty mechanical mouse sidekick, Minerva, they embarked on a riveting adventure to outsmart the clockwork villains who aimed to control the city's steam-driven secrets.

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