[Movie] threads today are all sequels or reboots

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  • MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
    I feel like I have watched far different Nolan films than everybody else, because they've all had coherent storylines although the Batman's had some thematic issues.

  • JokermanJokerman Everything EverywhereRegistered User regular
    I feel like he's one of the "Love em or Hate em" directors out there.

    Like Wes Anderson or JJ Abrams.

  • cursedkingcursedking Registered User regular
    edited January 10
    I feel like Tenet is an incoherent mess but in general I really like Nolan.

    Walking out of the theatre I remember thinking that it was exactly the sort of movie you would think of the hook for and spend your career thinking of how to execute it, and the answer ended up being “you kind of can’t”

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  • JokermanJokerman Everything EverywhereRegistered User regular
    I never watched Tenent but if that is the worst thing he did I'm willing to give him a solid B- in general.


    I never really clicked with interstellar. But it was an ok movie.

  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    Tenet was his worst, imo, but it still had a lot more interesting parts than many other action movies. I was just strongly unimpressed by the plot and the logic of the sci-fi conceit.

  • cursedkingcursedking Registered User regular
    Tenet was his worst, imo, but it still had a lot more interesting parts than many other action movies. I was just strongly unimpressed by the plot and the logic of the sci-fi conceit.

    The problem with tenet is like…I get it, man. “What if you made a palindrome that was a movie” is a fucking cool idea. But it either needed more time in actual production or just someone different at the helm because not only is it one of the worst “I can’t hear what they’re fucking saying” of his movies, what they’re saying is just complete nonsense

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  • Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    The premise for tenet should have been my jam. I love time shenanigans of all kinds. I found tenet to be profoundly boring.

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  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I still haven’t seen Tenet or Interstellar.

    The only thing I know about Interstellar is that TARS is just STAR backwards

  • facetiousfacetious a wit so dry it shits sandRegistered User regular
    I generally like Nolan's work a lot, and I especially love The Prestige and Inception and to a lesser extent Memento, and I even liked Interstellar a lot more than many people seem to, but I have had no real interest in any of his films since.

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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    I get that people don’t like the audio in tenet, but at the same time, I liked what he did with it, it is frustrating not being able to hear every word during high intensity moments, but at the same time it felt realistic, you’re in an intense moment, everything is happening, you don’t always have to get every word and I could at least understand the vast majority of it so I got a strong jist of what happened it made me feel more in the moment.

    But I get why people weren’t necessarily into that entire thing.

  • JokermanJokerman Everything EverywhereRegistered User regular
    edited January 10
    I still haven’t seen Tenet or Interstellar.

    The only thing I know about Interstellar is that TARS is just STAR backwards

    Raijen, TARS backwards is SRAT. Why do you think STAR backwards is TARS?

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  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    Normally, when you have a sci-fi tech premise, it's immediately clear why having that thing would be good or why people would want it. Avatar is like "this is the best mineral". Okay, makes sense. Tenet's premise goes off the rails near instantly. How are bullets that fire backwards helpful? Like... more helpful than regular ones? You're like "oh, they can predict the future of battles, so they can win perfectly with no casualties," but both sides are doing that, so it's now just an extremely confusing clusterfuck that isn't producing any kind of impressive result at all. Which could be the theme of the movie, that this technology with unlimited potential just became another arms race that helped no one, but IF the movie thinks that is its theme, it certainly does not focus on it very much. It's much more concerned with the single worst love story in a Nolan movie... which is saying a lot.

  • NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    Jokerman wrote: »
    I still haven’t seen Tenet or Interstellar.

    The only thing I know about Interstellar is that TARS is just STAR backwards

    Raiden, TARS backwards is SRAT. Why do you think STAR backwards is TARS?

    you missed that forum joke sorry jokerman

    your joker status is revoked

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  • JokermanJokerman Everything EverywhereRegistered User regular
    Naphtali wrote: »
    Jokerman wrote: »
    I still haven’t seen Tenet or Interstellar.

    The only thing I know about Interstellar is that TARS is just STAR backwards

    Raiden, TARS backwards is SRAT. Why do you think STAR backwards is TARS?

    you missed that forum joke sorry jokerman

    your joker status is revoked

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    Geth, kick @Man

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  • JokermanJokerman Everything EverywhereRegistered User regular
    What is Man? A miserable little pile of secrets.

  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    Affirmative Jedoc, Man has been banned. Woman and Enbies shall inherit the forum!

  • JokermanJokerman Everything EverywhereRegistered User regular
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    Rather than excessively shit on something people love, I'm going to recommend a movie I enjoy: The Music Never Stopped, with JK Simmons. It's loosely based on a real-life case of anterograde amnesia (the same memory disease that serves as a gimmick in Memento), by way of a case study by Oliver Sacks from his book An Anthropologist on Mars.

    Besides being a mostly fact-based portrayal of anterograde amnesia, the drama is driven by the relationship between a father (Simmons) and his neurologically impaired son (Lou Taylor Pucci).

    And I love Oliver Sacks because of how warm and human he wrote about disability, and that warmth comes through in the film despite the bleak subject matter.

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Naphtali wrote: »
    Jokerman wrote: »
    I still haven’t seen Tenet or Interstellar.

    The only thing I know about Interstellar is that TARS is just STAR backwards

    Raiden, TARS backwards is SRAT. Why do you think STAR backwards is TARS?

    you missed that forum joke sorry jokerman

    your joker status is revoked

    tbh it is tickling a part of my memory and I cannot place the context yet I know it's familiar

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  • JokermanJokerman Everything EverywhereRegistered User regular
    Naphtali wrote: »
    Jokerman wrote: »
    I still haven’t seen Tenet or Interstellar.

    The only thing I know about Interstellar is that TARS is just STAR backwards

    Raijin, TARS backwards is SRAT. Why do you think STAR backwards is TARS?

    you missed that forum joke sorry jokerman

    your joker status is revoked

    tbh it is tickling a part of my memory and I cannot place the context yet I know it's familiar

    Raijin makes this joke every time we bring up interstellar and it broke me.

  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I’m sorry you’re not COOL enough to get it

  • JokermanJokerman Everything EverywhereRegistered User regular
    I have never been cool you know this about me Steve!

  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    hey so fuck sag-aftra actually

    kill your masters


    SAG-AFTRA and Replica Studios Introduce Groundbreaking AI Voice Agreement at CES

    tl:dr sag-aftra has once again thrown voice actors, particularly game VAs under the bus

  • NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    Jokerman wrote: »
    Raijin makes this joke every time we bring up interstellar and it broke me.

    so, back when interstellar came out, former poster Chincymcchilla made a post explaining to all of us that TARS backwards is actually STAR

    whether or not it was a joke, ironic, or just a bad day, none who still live know the truth, but were forever blessed with this knowledge about TARS

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  • JokermanJokerman Everything EverywhereRegistered User regular
    Naphtali wrote: »
    Jokerman wrote: »
    Raijin makes this joke every time we bring up interstellar and it broke me.

    so, back when interstellar came out, former poster Chincymcchilla made a post explaining to all of us that TARS backwards is actually STAR

    whether or not it was a joke, ironic, or just a bad day, none who still live know the truth, but were forever blessed with this knowledge about TARS

    Holy shit that's great. I am blinded by the delightful history of the bit.

  • SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    Nolan's stuff is nearly always right up my alley. Tenet is a pile of shit but I really like Interstellar and the Prestige especially. Haven't seen Oppenheimer yet what with the kid and all.

  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    I liked Interstellar up until his tumble through time. The final Batman Nolan did I felt was the worst of the 3. I have not really seen Tenant and I am not sure what people are trying to say with certain clips I have not seen Inception at all and I feel with Tenant they are trying to tie the two together?
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  • The Zombie PenguinThe Zombie Penguin Eternal Hungry Corpse Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    hey so fuck sag-aftra actually

    kill your masters


    SAG-AFTRA and Replica Studios Introduce Groundbreaking AI Voice Agreement at CES

    tl:dr sag-aftra has once again thrown voice actors, particularly game VAs under the bus

    Gods, i hate this shit. So much. It's not even ai! it's not even fucking intelligent! It's just processed regurgitation machines. But hey, it makes money, andi t's totally gonna enable a new wave of thieves artists any day now

    Ideas hate it when you anthropomorphize them
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  • minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    Tenet, to me, just felt like Nolan trying to recapture the cool, probably too clever for its own good non-linear storytelling of Memento, but just kind of indulging in all of his worst impulses while doing so. I think it's almost inarguably his worst. Either that or Batman Begins.

    Beyond those, I generally like most everything else he's done and I don't see a lot of issues with bad plotting or nonsensical storytelling.

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  • SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    Brainleech wrote: »
    I liked Interstellar up until his tumble through time. The final Batman Nolan did I felt was the worst of the 3. I have not really seen Tenant and I am not sure what people are trying to say with certain clips I have not seen Inception at all and I feel with Tenant they are trying to tie the two together?
    Dunkirk caused us to really look at rebooting the home speaker system. [replacing the wires and the speakers since the mixer still works}

    Tenet and Inception are not connected in any way whatsoever.

  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    SirToasty wrote: »
    Brainleech wrote: »
    I liked Interstellar up until his tumble through time. The final Batman Nolan did I felt was the worst of the 3. I have not really seen Tenant and I am not sure what people are trying to say with certain clips I have not seen Inception at all and I feel with Tenant they are trying to tie the two together?
    Dunkirk caused us to really look at rebooting the home speaker system. [replacing the wires and the speakers since the mixer still works}

    Tenet and Inception are not connected in any way whatsoever.

    I have not seen either but on YT shorts and other social media people were trying to tie the two together so I did not understand what they were doing

  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    Brainleech wrote: »
    SirToasty wrote: »
    Brainleech wrote: »
    I liked Interstellar up until his tumble through time. The final Batman Nolan did I felt was the worst of the 3. I have not really seen Tenant and I am not sure what people are trying to say with certain clips I have not seen Inception at all and I feel with Tenant they are trying to tie the two together?
    Dunkirk caused us to really look at rebooting the home speaker system. [replacing the wires and the speakers since the mixer still works}

    Tenet and Inception are not connected in any way whatsoever.

    I have not seen either but on YT shorts and other social media people were trying to tie the two together so I did not understand what they were doing

    These are people that are franchise poisoned. "I didn't like the new Pixar movie because it doesn't fit with my theories of the Pixar Universe," that kind of person.

  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    Brainleech wrote: »
    SirToasty wrote: »
    Brainleech wrote: »
    I liked Interstellar up until his tumble through time. The final Batman Nolan did I felt was the worst of the 3. I have not really seen Tenant and I am not sure what people are trying to say with certain clips I have not seen Inception at all and I feel with Tenant they are trying to tie the two together?
    Dunkirk caused us to really look at rebooting the home speaker system. [replacing the wires and the speakers since the mixer still works}

    Tenet and Inception are not connected in any way whatsoever.

    I have not seen either but on YT shorts and other social media people were trying to tie the two together so I did not understand what they were doing

    Those people are idiots donny

  • SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    Brainleech wrote: »
    SirToasty wrote: »
    Brainleech wrote: »
    I liked Interstellar up until his tumble through time. The final Batman Nolan did I felt was the worst of the 3. I have not really seen Tenant and I am not sure what people are trying to say with certain clips I have not seen Inception at all and I feel with Tenant they are trying to tie the two together?
    Dunkirk caused us to really look at rebooting the home speaker system. [replacing the wires and the speakers since the mixer still works}

    Tenet and Inception are not connected in any way whatsoever.

    I have not seen either but on YT shorts and other social media people were trying to tie the two together so I did not understand what they were doing

    They are doing bad things

  • minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    Brainleech wrote: »
    SirToasty wrote: »
    Brainleech wrote: »
    I liked Interstellar up until his tumble through time. The final Batman Nolan did I felt was the worst of the 3. I have not really seen Tenant and I am not sure what people are trying to say with certain clips I have not seen Inception at all and I feel with Tenant they are trying to tie the two together?
    Dunkirk caused us to really look at rebooting the home speaker system. [replacing the wires and the speakers since the mixer still works}

    Tenet and Inception are not connected in any way whatsoever.

    I have not seen either but on YT shorts and other social media people were trying to tie the two together so I did not understand what they were doing

    These are people that are franchise poisoned. "I didn't like the new Pixar movie because it doesn't fit with my theories of the Pixar Universe," that kind of person.

    Are these people part of the family tree that contains the people who make 3 hour long videos about the master Zelda timeline?

    Ah, it stinks, it sucks, it's anthropologically unjust
  • 3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    Bloods End wrote: »
    Brainleech wrote: »
    SirToasty wrote: »
    Brainleech wrote: »
    I liked Interstellar up until his tumble through time. The final Batman Nolan did I felt was the worst of the 3. I have not really seen Tenant and I am not sure what people are trying to say with certain clips I have not seen Inception at all and I feel with Tenant they are trying to tie the two together?
    Dunkirk caused us to really look at rebooting the home speaker system. [replacing the wires and the speakers since the mixer still works}

    Tenet and Inception are not connected in any way whatsoever.

    I have not seen either but on YT shorts and other social media people were trying to tie the two together so I did not understand what they were doing

    Those people are idiots donny

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    edited January 10
    Are the details of the SAG-AFTRA voice actor AI agreement available to the public yet? All the links I've found just point back to the press release.

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    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    Are the details of the SAG-AFTRA voice actor AI agreement available to the public yet? All the links I've found just point back to the press release.

    Unless it has a lot of protections in there for voice actors, I am skeptical of any labor agreement that involves AI

    Like if you record a bunch of stuff for an AI to use and any time that AI gets used you get paid, that's... something, I guess? I dunno, depends on what the actors want, frankly

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    Olivaw wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Are the details of the SAG-AFTRA voice actor AI agreement available to the public yet? All the links I've found just point back to the press release.

    Unless it has a lot of protections in there for voice actors, I am skeptical of any labor agreement that involves AI

    Like if you record a bunch of stuff for an AI to use and any time that AI gets used you get paid, that's... something, I guess? I dunno, depends on what the actors want, frankly

    I am too, but I'd like to argue from a position of knowledge rather than a position of assumptions.

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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