[NBA] So Much for the Most Stacked West in Years

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  • TelMarineTelMarine Registered User regular
    Bronny already getting a multi-year guaranteed deal:

    https://sports.yahoo.com/bronny-james-plans-to-sign-multi-year-guaranteed-contract-with-the-los-angeles-lakers-report-180125038.html

    the second Lebron retires, unless Bronny ends up being good, he's gone

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  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    edited July 2
    doesn't he have to make the team first lol
    like i thought it was gonna happen anyway but i would've thought they'd make him go through the song and dance of summer league and stuff for appearances or would that risk exposing him too much too early

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  • TheBigEasyTheBigEasy Registered User regular
    dlinfiniti wrote: »
    doesn't he have to make the team first lol
    like i thought it was gonna happen anyway but i would've thought they'd make him go through the song and dance of summer league and stuff for appearances or would that risk exposing him too much too early

    Not with an agent like Rich Paul. "I don't do two-way contracts".

    Then again - might as well give him a contract. The moment LeBron said publicly he wanted to play with his son, this was the endresult. And even if he isn't good enough for the NBA on his own - who cares? His father will play a couple of seasons before retiring and if Bronny hasn't developed enough, he'll be out of the league pretty fast. Unless LeBron immediately transitions into team ownership or something.

    The more I read / hear about this situation, the more I feel with Bronny. All of this is his dads ego and from the outside it seems as if Bronnys wishes hadn't really been considered and / or nobody really thought what this whole thing does to him.

  • Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    From Bronny's perspective I can see him having a couple reasons why he might go along with it that isn't just, "This is what my dad wants".
    • He thinks he isn't good enough to get into or stick around in the NBA for long anyway, so this is his chance to make it and/or improve enough to get there
    • He thinks he is good enough but doesn't think he'll get the right opportunities to prove he can hack it, so this is his way to get playing time and show his value a la Austin Rivers

    There's an argument to be made that 5-10 MPG in the NBA is worth more than 30+ MPG in the NCAA/G-League (with Bronny's level of development I'm not sure you can make that case, but it's a legitimate argument).

    From a broader context, such as public perception and his own mental well-being, I think that he would've been best staying in college or taking a two-way and getting significant time in G-League to give him the space and time to shore up his game. But here's where we are, so I guess we'll see what happens.

  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Central OhioRegistered User regular
    So that’s why Lebron opted out and mentioned he would take less

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  • Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    5 minutes in the nba for bronny is going to be him absolutely embarrassed night in and night out. he would get smoked by guys coming off the end of the bench, he wasn't even a useful player on a bad college team.

    the dude will literally never see the court in games less than 20+ point differential, or they will rapidly become 20+ point differential.

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  • FiatilFiatil Registered User regular
    Lol I'm trying to just ignore the Bronny stuff but now his intro press conference is showing up everywhere......

    Just some fun gaslighting and extreme delusion on the part of Bronny too. Reddick and Pelinka make sure to tell everyone that Bronny totally earned this through hard work and it has nothing to do with his dad, and then Bronny doing his best to lose any sympathy I have for him with:
    "I feel like I could've been perfecting my game more," Bronny said. "I feel like I've been given the opportunity to showcase what I can really do because I wasn't given that much of an opportunity at SC. I'm excited for what is to come."

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  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    edited July 2
    its crazy, i thought just drafting him would be enough, but they gotta keep pushing him every step of the way
    at this rate, Caitlin Clark's treatment is gonna look like a cakewalk compared to how they guys are gonna treat bronny

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  • TelMarineTelMarine Registered User regular
    Kyle Anderson to the Warriors at 3/27. Pretty good. Now, are they able to get Markannen without overpaying...

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  • RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    Redick also saying that having the Lakers G-League coaching staff coaching the Summer League games is, "such a great opportunity for them", like he's gonna be their mentor. What a wanker

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  • TelMarineTelMarine Registered User regular
    Buddy Hield possibly to the Warriors...some badly needed shooting

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  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    edited July 3
    I don't know about that, that king residue never really washes off once you get it on you

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  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    edited July 3
    https://x.com/i/status/1808308839865110940
    This... This can't be real right? Like he's gotta be trolling or some shit
    So he's gonna go to Memphis and replace Dillon Brooks after all that he said and did there? Teach ja about gun safety? No way this was happening
    Maybe an alien deep fake or something

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  • TheBigEasyTheBigEasy Registered User regular
    Apparently LeBron agreed to a 2 year / $104 million max deal.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaT2NBS9z90

  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Central OhioRegistered User regular
    edited July 3
    Lol

    I see the Lakers took all the lessons of Kobe’s last contract to heart, I am looking forward to their combined 143 wins in the 6 seasons after Lebron’s catastrophic leg injury

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  • Trajan45Trajan45 Registered User regular
    Interesting given his camp was talking about taking a pay cut so the Lakers could get a decent free agent. I guess that meant only Klay.

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  • Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    he said he would take a pay cut if they got a decent free agent, but max if they didn't.

    they didn't lol

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  • TelMarineTelMarine Registered User regular
    I guess that means Derozan is off the table

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  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    I thought the whole point of JJ and bronny was that maybe they'd be able to play hardball with him when it came time for his own negotiations. Like what was he gonna do walk away? Apparently they're content just fighting for play-in spots

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  • TheBigEasyTheBigEasy Registered User regular
    Despite what JJ and Rob said at JJ's introductory presser and even in subsequent pressers - they HAVE to know that year 1 they won't be a title contender.

    LeBrons contract has a player option for year 2. So maybe after he scratched that "I want to play with my son" itch, he hangs up his sneakers? Or by then they have a better picture of what needs to be done to contend, he opts out and gives them cap space?

    I don't know... Or just every rumor about LeGM is true and this is just one last power play before he retires.

  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    AD should probably ask out of there
    Like at this point if he doesn't leave, his future is wasting 2 years of being barely a play in team while he carries most of the load and then Bron retires and Lakers go into rebuild mode and he gets traded anyway

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  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    https://x.com/wojespn/status/1808521192262729793
    oh shit wtf
    nate mcmillan and scott brooks?

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  • TheBigEasyTheBigEasy Registered User regular
    I was actually expecting one of the van Gundys to be an assistant for him.

  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    edited July 3
    TheBigEasy wrote: »
    I was actually expecting one of the van Gundys to be an assistant for him.

    That was my hope too given that Jeff went to the clippers and an in-city and sibling rivalry makes it even better
    I imagine Stan might be too smart to attach himself to this sinking ship though

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Central OhioRegistered User regular
    McMillan’s strength is helping terrible rosters overachieve so

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  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    He's never had to deal with multiple superstar egos including one in the head coaching position though

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Central OhioRegistered User regular
    Oh he’s a terrible pick I was riffing on the Lakers being bad

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  • EinzelEinzel Registered User regular
    Ringo wrote: »
    Also gross that it's the Mavs, what with Kyrie and Miriam Adelson

    Maybe Kyrie will get jettisoned so people can root for them?

  • EinzelEinzel Registered User regular
    dlinfiniti wrote: »
    AD should probably ask out of there
    Like at this point if he doesn't leave, his future is wasting 2 years of being barely a play in team while he carries most of the load and then Bron retires and Lakers go into rebuild mode and he gets traded anyway

    There's a decent spot for him in Miami...

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  • TelMarineTelMarine Registered User regular
    Warriors get Buddy Hield in a sign-and-trade. I like this move. Gives some badly needed outside shooting especially with Klay's departure. Also gives someone other than Curry who can actually hit a corner 3. Warriors have been atrocious on corner 3s the last few seasons.

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  • FiatilFiatil Registered User regular
    Sad to see a good OU kid go to the dark side. Hopefully it's a short stay for Buddy and he gets traded to a playoff team at some point this year.

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  • TelMarineTelMarine Registered User regular
    Fiatil wrote: »
    Sad to see a good OU kid go to the dark side. Hopefully it's a short stay for Buddy and he gets traded to a playoff team at some point this year.

    Dynasty officially broken up but the hate is still there. If OKC continues to trend upwards, they'll become the new enemy. Cycle of basketball life.

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  • Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    buddy looked absolutely unplayable last year, but maybe kerr can get more out of him. it was painful watching the dude, he looked absolutely lost on the court and wouldn't even shoot when wide open.

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  • FiatilFiatil Registered User regular
    Well sure it is. Do you lose your hate for the Lakers in the seasons they're not a dynasty? It's all part of the fun.

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  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    Fiatil wrote: »
    Well sure it is. Do you lose your hate for the Lakers in the seasons they're not a dynasty? It's all part of the fun.

    late-stage kobe and post kobe i kinda started to feel bad for them a little
    kinda like whats become of the blazers
    its just sad
    maybe you can't identify because you thunderheads don't know suffering but we warriors fans do have empathy for the dark ages of other teams after having come out of the longest one ever in the history of sport

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  • TelMarineTelMarine Registered User regular
    Fiatil wrote: »
    Well sure it is. Do you lose your hate for the Lakers in the seasons they're not a dynasty? It's all part of the fun.

    yeah but:
    - It's LA
    - They have 17 championships

    Who hates the Bulls other than their own front office?

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  • TicaldfjamTicaldfjam Snoqualmie, WARegistered User regular
    dlinfiniti wrote: »
    Fiatil wrote: »
    Well sure it is. Do you lose your hate for the Lakers in the seasons they're not a dynasty? It's all part of the fun.

    late-stage kobe and post kobe i kinda started to feel bad for them a little
    kinda like whats become of the blazers
    its just sad
    maybe you can't identify because you thunderheads don't know suffering but we warriors fans do have empathy for the dark ages of other teams after having come out of the longest one ever in the history of sport

    Your Dubs will rise again.

    Wilt, Rick Barry Era. Chris Mullins, Tom Hardaway, Mitch Richmond, aka "Run TMC" era. Chris Webber, Latrell Sprewell era. The Baron Davis , Richardson, one. Now the Steph, Klay, and Dray era.

    Ya'll may not have as many titles as Boston, but the amount of famous, fun, Warrior eras, equals the Celtics historic lore in the annals of NBA history.

  • TelMarineTelMarine Registered User regular
    Really curious where Derozan ends up...Yahoo saying Kings might sign him. I'm kinda surprised he's still available. Man averaged 24/5.3 assists/4.6 rebounds last season, with nearly 8 FT attempts per game. I know he's older, but damn, he can still play.

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  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    He's the antithesis of a modern NBA wing though. He's not a great defender, old, and doesn't shoot threes. He can play, but i definitely understand him having little to no trade value especially considering nearly every playoff team is paying luxury tax.

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