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This new JxmyHighRollet was kind of fun. He continues to taunt me by being knowing just enough about data science / data analysis to be dangerous. I wont nit pick him too hard here, as hes an amateur enthusiast who's just having fun, except for one big thing.
Hes essentially using a bunch of different features to generate a similarity score, which is fine. The main thing is he keeps talking about how, because he threw so much shit in there, it must be very "accurate". Thats just fundamentally flawed about what a similarity score is and what you can do with it. There is no "accuracy" because there's no "correct" answer. Your definition of "similar" is an unsupervised exercise entitely hinged on what you decide to include, how you weight it, how you process it, etc. It has no real meaning beyond that you made a list of the guys with lowest/highest scores according to your specific definition. Asking someone if it got the right answer then becomes a question of asking them to "supervise" it, and if they could do that well, then youd have no need for the metric.
Still, i liked his video, which i almost always do. Rant over.
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BlackDragon480Bluster KerfuffleMaster of Windy ImportRegistered Userregular
A'ja Wilson had already set the single season scoring record but she one upped it tonight by hitting 1000 points in a season.
She's had possibly the best single statistical season ever in the W, but if she get's MVP, it'll be the first time it's gone to someone not on a no. 1 seed since 2008.
Other fun tonight, Fever clinched playoff birth and Caitlin went off for 35pts, 8 assists, and 3 steals, setting a new rookie record for points in a season, a record dating back to 2006.
No matter where you go...there you are. ~ Buckaroo Banzai
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Inquisitor772 x Penny Arcade Fight Club ChampionA fixed point in space and timeRegistered Userregular
This new JxmyHighRollet was kind of fun. He continues to taunt me by being knowing just enough about data science / data analysis to be dangerous. I wont nit pick him too hard here, as hes an amateur enthusiast who's just having fun, except for one big thing.
Hes essentially using a bunch of different features to generate a similarity score, which is fine. The main thing is he keeps talking about how, because he threw so much shit in there, it must be very "accurate". Thats just fundamentally flawed about what a similarity score is and what you can do with it. There is no "accuracy" because there's no "correct" answer. Your definition of "similar" is an unsupervised exercise entitely hinged on what you decide to include, how you weight it, how you process it, etc. It has no real meaning beyond that you made a list of the guys with lowest/highest scores according to your specific definition. Asking someone if it got the right answer then becomes a question of asking them to "supervise" it, and if they could do that well, then youd have no need for the metric.
Still, i liked his video, which i almost always do. Rant over.
One thing I appreciate about the guys at Thinking Basketball is that they don't pretend to do more than basic statistics, and honestly they do a much better job of presenting the right numbers and putting them in the right context with the right caveats than channels like this one that try to do their own analyses and make up their own numbers only to run afoul of basic problems that someone with more robust training (or even just basic peer review) would've brought up immediately. It doesn't make their analyses bad per se, but it's just...very incomplete.
This new JxmyHighRollet was kind of fun. He continues to taunt me by being knowing just enough about data science / data analysis to be dangerous. I wont nit pick him too hard here, as hes an amateur enthusiast who's just having fun, except for one big thing.
Hes essentially using a bunch of different features to generate a similarity score, which is fine. The main thing is he keeps talking about how, because he threw so much shit in there, it must be very "accurate". Thats just fundamentally flawed about what a similarity score is and what you can do with it. There is no "accuracy" because there's no "correct" answer. Your definition of "similar" is an unsupervised exercise entitely hinged on what you decide to include, how you weight it, how you process it, etc. It has no real meaning beyond that you made a list of the guys with lowest/highest scores according to your specific definition. Asking someone if it got the right answer then becomes a question of asking them to "supervise" it, and if they could do that well, then youd have no need for the metric.
Still, i liked his video, which i almost always do. Rant over.
One thing I appreciate about the guys at Thinking Basketball is that they don't pretend to do more than basic statistics, and honestly they do a much better job of presenting the right numbers and putting them in the right context with the right caveats than channels like this one that try to do their own analyses and make up their own numbers only to run afoul of basic problems that someone with more robust training (or even just basic peer review) would've brought up immediately. It doesn't make their analyses bad per se, but it's just...very incomplete.
I think of it a very novice data person kind of thing to do. "Look, i did a bunch of stuff with data! I used the most data, and it was a lot of work, and i did a thing! Im a data guy". But, doing a thing with data, and doing a useful (or better yet, actionable) thing with data is a different ballgame. Obviously, he doesn't need to meet that standard, i just thought it was funny he did this kind of data puppy approach and was all pleased with himself.
A'ja Wilson had already set the single season scoring record but she one upped it tonight by hitting 1000 points in a season.
She's had possibly the best single statistical season ever in the W, but if she get's MVP, it'll be the first time it's gone to someone not on a no. 1 seed since 2008.
Other fun tonight, Fever clinched playoff birth and Caitlin went off for 35pts, 8 assists, and 3 steals, setting a new rookie record for points in a season, a record dating back to 2006.
Clark has shattered the assists record in the WNBA as well
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BlackDragon480Bluster KerfuffleMaster of Windy ImportRegistered Userregular
A'ja Wilson had already set the single season scoring record but she one upped it tonight by hitting 1000 points in a season.
She's had possibly the best single statistical season ever in the W, but if she get's MVP, it'll be the first time it's gone to someone not on a no. 1 seed since 2008.
Other fun tonight, Fever clinched playoff birth and Caitlin went off for 35pts, 8 assists, and 3 steals, setting a new rookie record for points in a season, a record dating back to 2006.
Clark has shattered the assists record in the WNBA as well
I feel kinda bad, cause I normally never followed.the WNBA, save around the Olympics, but all drama around Clark and Reese.from the draft on has got me making up for lost.time trying to learn as much as I can. Some of the shit with Clark and Sheryl Swoops and Taurasi was baffling, though Diana came around after the Fever won in Phoenix and they actually matched up. Swoops though, man, she certainly.committed to firing her mouth off to point of getting canned.
No matter where you go...there you are. ~ Buckaroo Banzai
This Ringer article about the Thunder's defensive potential has me drinking the Koolaid. It really does look like a fucking monster. Are you basically vibrating with anticipation at this point @Fiatil ?
This Ringer article about the Thunder's defensive potential has me drinking the Koolaid. It really does look like a fucking monster. Are you basically vibrating with anticipation at this point @Fiatil ?
I'm super excited! But, spending most of my life as an Oklahoma sports fan also makes me incapabable of being like AWWW HELL YEAH CHAMPIONSHIP GUARANTEED regardless of how cool stuff looks on paper.
But, obligatory hedging aside, it should be awesome. You just very rarely see such a good team get so much better on paper like we just did this offseason. We replaced Giddey and the walking corpse of Gordon Hayward with Caruso and Hartenstein, which is on paper such a ridiculous trade-off. It's not an exaggeration either -- everyone else is back. We didn't toss in some key roleplayers or something, it's essentially a straight up swap from Giddey and Hayward to those two.
Not to mention that significsnt age/experience related growth is a reasonable expectation for like 5/9 of the rotation. They really could be a monster.
A'ja Wilson had already set the single season scoring record but she one upped it tonight by hitting 1000 points in a season.
She's had possibly the best single statistical season ever in the W, but if she get's MVP, it'll be the first time it's gone to someone not on a no. 1 seed since 2008.
Other fun tonight, Fever clinched playoff birth and Caitlin went off for 35pts, 8 assists, and 3 steals, setting a new rookie record for points in a season, a record dating back to 2006.
Clark has shattered the assists record in the WNBA as well
I feel kinda bad, cause I normally never followed.the WNBA, save around the Olympics, but all drama around Clark and Reese.from the draft on has got me making up for lost.time trying to learn as much as I can. Some of the shit with Clark and Sheryl Swoops and Taurasi was baffling, though Diana came around after the Fever won in Phoenix and they actually matched up. Swoops though, man, she certainly.committed to firing her mouth off to point of getting canned.
I don't know exactly what she said, but Swoops does have some strange takes. On Gil's Arena she literally said black people cannot be racist. Gil had to double check she actually said that, haha.
I grew up the son of a factory worker two miles from ESPN's campus and only ever dreamed of making a living as a sportswriter. Thirty-seven years ago, the Hartford Courant gave me my first byline and I never stopped
chasing the thrill of it all.
This craft transformed my life, but l've decided to retire from ESPN and the news industry. I understand the commitment required in my role and it's an investment that I'm no longer driven to make. Time isn't in endless supply and I want to spend mine in ways that are more personally meaningful.
I leave with overwhelming gratitude for countless mentors and colleagues, subjects and stories, readers and viewers. No one has benefitted more than me from the belief, trust and generosity of others.
The past seven years at ESPN have been a particular privilege. I'm appreciative of the company's leadership - especially Jimmy Pitaro and Cristina Daglas - for the understanding and acceptance of my decision to make a life change.
After all these years reporting on everyone's teams, I'm headed back to my own.
A'ja Wilson had already set the single season scoring record but she one upped it tonight by hitting 1000 points in a season.
She's had possibly the best single statistical season ever in the W, but if she get's MVP, it'll be the first time it's gone to someone not on a no. 1 seed since 2008.
Other fun tonight, Fever clinched playoff birth and Caitlin went off for 35pts, 8 assists, and 3 steals, setting a new rookie record for points in a season, a record dating back to 2006.
Clark has shattered the assists record in the WNBA as well
I feel kinda bad, cause I normally never followed.the WNBA, save around the Olympics, but all drama around Clark and Reese.from the draft on has got me making up for lost.time trying to learn as much as I can. Some of the shit with Clark and Sheryl Swoops and Taurasi was baffling, though Diana came around after the Fever won in Phoenix and they actually matched up. Swoops though, man, she certainly.committed to firing her mouth off to point of getting canned.
I don't know exactly what she said, but Swoops does have some strange takes. On Gil's Arena she literally said black people cannot be racist. Gil had to double check she actually said that, haha.
Swoops seems fully committed to being a Clark hater no matter what. She’ll highlight everyone on the team but Clark when discussing a highlight among other strange behavior. To the point where she was pulled from being a commentator for a recent Fever game.
It’s a little bizarre to see the corner she’s painted herself into.
In positive news, Portland getting the next WNBA expansion team. Bringing the league to 15 teams.
I grew up the son of a factory worker two miles from ESPN's campus and only ever dreamed of making a living as a sportswriter. Thirty-seven years ago, the Hartford Courant gave me my first byline and I never stopped
chasing the thrill of it all.
This craft transformed my life, but l've decided to retire from ESPN and the news industry. I understand the commitment required in my role and it's an investment that I'm no longer driven to make. Time isn't in endless supply and I want to spend mine in ways that are more personally meaningful.
I leave with overwhelming gratitude for countless mentors and colleagues, subjects and stories, readers and viewers. No one has benefitted more than me from the belief, trust and generosity of others.
The past seven years at ESPN have been a particular privilege. I'm appreciative of the company's leadership - especially Jimmy Pitaro and Cristina Daglas - for the understanding and acceptance of my decision to make a life change.
After all these years reporting on everyone's teams, I'm headed back to my own.
I grew up the son of a factory worker two miles from ESPN's campus and only ever dreamed of making a living as a sportswriter. Thirty-seven years ago, the Hartford Courant gave me my first byline and I never stopped
chasing the thrill of it all.
This craft transformed my life, but l've decided to retire from ESPN and the news industry. I understand the commitment required in my role and it's an investment that I'm no longer driven to make. Time isn't in endless supply and I want to spend mine in ways that are more personally meaningful.
I leave with overwhelming gratitude for countless mentors and colleagues, subjects and stories, readers and viewers. No one has benefitted more than me from the belief, trust and generosity of others.
The past seven years at ESPN have been a particular privilege. I'm appreciative of the company's leadership - especially Jimmy Pitaro and Cristina Daglas - for the understanding and acceptance of my decision to make a life change.
After all these years reporting on everyone's teams, I'm headed back to my own.
Apparently he’s going to be GM of his alma mater
shouldve had shams break his retirement
they actually did briefly work together at Yahoo Sports NBA.
I grew up the son of a factory worker two miles from ESPN's campus and only ever dreamed of making a living as a sportswriter. Thirty-seven years ago, the Hartford Courant gave me my first byline and I never stopped
chasing the thrill of it all.
This craft transformed my life, but l've decided to retire from ESPN and the news industry. I understand the commitment required in my role and it's an investment that I'm no longer driven to make. Time isn't in endless supply and I want to spend mine in ways that are more personally meaningful.
I leave with overwhelming gratitude for countless mentors and colleagues, subjects and stories, readers and viewers. No one has benefitted more than me from the belief, trust and generosity of others.
The past seven years at ESPN have been a particular privilege. I'm appreciative of the company's leadership - especially Jimmy Pitaro and Cristina Daglas - for the understanding and acceptance of my decision to make a life change.
After all these years reporting on everyone's teams, I'm headed back to my own.
Apparently he’s going to be GM of his alma mater
shouldve had shams break his retirement
Only if he spends half of the tweet telling you how awesome FanDuel is and somehow uses the scoop to manipulate betting lines in their favor.
Indiana getting straight bullied by Connecticut, looking every bit the team that started the season 2-11 or whatever it was instead of a playoff team.
Liberty rocked Atlanta which ain't very surprising and I don't have high hopes for Phoenix but maybe Seattle can give us a game against Vegas
Serves me right, Phoenix ended up taking it down to the wire and Seattle having the lead or being within one score until under 4 minutes looks pretty good until you realize they only put up 2 points in the entire 4th quarter
Zach Lowe is out at ESPN, which is dumb and will continue ESPN's downward slide into "just people angrily yelling at eachother about the Lakers and Cowboys."
Zach Lowe is out at ESPN, which is dumb and will continue ESPN's downward slide into "just people angrily yelling at eachother about the Lakers and Cowboys."
That's a crazy decision. He has the best NBA podcast ever, I can't believe it. At minimum his old boss at the Ringer will pick him up, but this is truly shocking to me.
I'm not so certain about this trade, but I think the Wolves will come out ahead. I feel like Edwards and Randle won't mix well together. I feel like it'll be the epitome of "watch each other take turns scoring". I was surprised though that Randle averages slightly more assists than Towns, I figured he woulda had more. This trade is the Wolves saying, we feel like Naz Reid is more than good enough to replace Towns. There was rumbles of that already last season. They even cover the loss of Towns' 3pt shooting by adding Divincenzo and Reid is a great 3pt shooter. I think Towns was a little too 3 happy. Gonna be very interesting to see how this all shakes out. Towns' minutes about to sky rocket.
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Hes essentially using a bunch of different features to generate a similarity score, which is fine. The main thing is he keeps talking about how, because he threw so much shit in there, it must be very "accurate". Thats just fundamentally flawed about what a similarity score is and what you can do with it. There is no "accuracy" because there's no "correct" answer. Your definition of "similar" is an unsupervised exercise entitely hinged on what you decide to include, how you weight it, how you process it, etc. It has no real meaning beyond that you made a list of the guys with lowest/highest scores according to your specific definition. Asking someone if it got the right answer then becomes a question of asking them to "supervise" it, and if they could do that well, then youd have no need for the metric.
Still, i liked his video, which i almost always do. Rant over.
She's had possibly the best single statistical season ever in the W, but if she get's MVP, it'll be the first time it's gone to someone not on a no. 1 seed since 2008.
Other fun tonight, Fever clinched playoff birth and Caitlin went off for 35pts, 8 assists, and 3 steals, setting a new rookie record for points in a season, a record dating back to 2006.
~ Buckaroo Banzai
One thing I appreciate about the guys at Thinking Basketball is that they don't pretend to do more than basic statistics, and honestly they do a much better job of presenting the right numbers and putting them in the right context with the right caveats than channels like this one that try to do their own analyses and make up their own numbers only to run afoul of basic problems that someone with more robust training (or even just basic peer review) would've brought up immediately. It doesn't make their analyses bad per se, but it's just...very incomplete.
I think of it a very novice data person kind of thing to do. "Look, i did a bunch of stuff with data! I used the most data, and it was a lot of work, and i did a thing! Im a data guy". But, doing a thing with data, and doing a useful (or better yet, actionable) thing with data is a different ballgame. Obviously, he doesn't need to meet that standard, i just thought it was funny he did this kind of data puppy approach and was all pleased with himself.
Clark has shattered the assists record in the WNBA as well
I feel kinda bad, cause I normally never followed.the WNBA, save around the Olympics, but all drama around Clark and Reese.from the draft on has got me making up for lost.time trying to learn as much as I can. Some of the shit with Clark and Sheryl Swoops and Taurasi was baffling, though Diana came around after the Fever won in Phoenix and they actually matched up. Swoops though, man, she certainly.committed to firing her mouth off to point of getting canned.
~ Buckaroo Banzai
https://www.theringer.com/nba/2024/9/16/24245599/oklahoma-city-thunder-defense-nba-season-preview-2024
I'm super excited! But, spending most of my life as an Oklahoma sports fan also makes me incapabable of being like AWWW HELL YEAH CHAMPIONSHIP GUARANTEED regardless of how cool stuff looks on paper.
But, obligatory hedging aside, it should be awesome. You just very rarely see such a good team get so much better on paper like we just did this offseason. We replaced Giddey and the walking corpse of Gordon Hayward with Caruso and Hartenstein, which is on paper such a ridiculous trade-off. It's not an exaggeration either -- everyone else is back. We didn't toss in some key roleplayers or something, it's essentially a straight up swap from Giddey and Hayward to those two.
One of these things isn't like the others
exactly what I was thinking, haha
I don't know exactly what she said, but Swoops does have some strange takes. On Gil's Arena she literally said black people cannot be racist. Gil had to double check she actually said that, haha.
https://x.com/wojespn/status/1836414909829034140
Apparently he’s going to be GM of his alma mater
Swoops seems fully committed to being a Clark hater no matter what. She’ll highlight everyone on the team but Clark when discussing a highlight among other strange behavior. To the point where she was pulled from being a commentator for a recent Fever game.
It’s a little bizarre to see the corner she’s painted herself into.
In positive news, Portland getting the next WNBA expansion team. Bringing the league to 15 teams.
shouldve had shams break his retirement
they actually did briefly work together at Yahoo Sports NBA.
Only if he spends half of the tweet telling you how awesome FanDuel is and somehow uses the scoop to manipulate betting lines in their favor.
when you get a tattoo of yourself on your back
https://www.tmz.com/2024/09/20/jayson-tatum-tattoo-nba-championship-trophy/?adid=social-tws
like hes not a bad person like brown or whatever, but fuck he’s cringe.
Otherwise known as, "Terminal Kobe Brain."
"Ex-Kings GM Vlade Divac believes “time will tell” if Sacramento passing on Luka Dončić in the 2018 draft was the wrong choice 🤔"
https://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/nba/sacramento-kings/vlade-divac-luka-doncic-deaaron-fox-marvin-bagley-iii/1784504/
So much anger. . .
Liberty rocked Atlanta which ain't very surprising and I don't have high hopes for Phoenix but maybe Seattle can give us a game against Vegas
Serves me right, Phoenix ended up taking it down to the wire and Seattle having the lead or being within one score until under 4 minutes looks pretty good until you realize they only put up 2 points in the entire 4th quarter
That's a crazy decision. He has the best NBA podcast ever, I can't believe it. At minimum his old boss at the Ringer will pick him up, but this is truly shocking to me.
Ahahaha wtf
It makes sense as like a "future cap we can't afford all of these people in a couple of years" thing, but seems to make them worse in the short term.
so much for the 'Nova Knicks, right?
I'm not so certain about this trade, but I think the Wolves will come out ahead. I feel like Edwards and Randle won't mix well together. I feel like it'll be the epitome of "watch each other take turns scoring". I was surprised though that Randle averages slightly more assists than Towns, I figured he woulda had more. This trade is the Wolves saying, we feel like Naz Reid is more than good enough to replace Towns. There was rumbles of that already last season. They even cover the loss of Towns' 3pt shooting by adding Divincenzo and Reid is a great 3pt shooter. I think Towns was a little too 3 happy. Gonna be very interesting to see how this all shakes out. Towns' minutes about to sky rocket.