[Star Wars Outlaws] You can actually fly to the planets!

AegeriAegeri Tiny wee bacteriumsPlateau of LengRegistered User regular
edited June 13 in Games and Technology
So I've been keeping an eye on this game for a while and despite my usual reservations about Ubisoft, they are saying a lot of things that I want to hear about this game. Star Wars Outlaws is a game where you play as loveable scoundrel Kay Vess, who has more than a few similarities to Han Solo, plus her delightful pet gecko alien thing Nix. It's an open world action adventure game in the style Ubisoft like to make, created by Massive Entertainment who were behind the Division games. Before we go any further, yes it's got some really dumb and overpriced special editions that gate random content behind paying more for the base game. If that's something that really bothers you, it might be worth waiting for a sale or something else. Here is a really good gameplay trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_O1eqWWbe4

I think this has lots of potential.

Edit: Game is coming out on mostly everything except Switch. Xbox Series X|S, PS5 and PC on 30th August.

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    The recent gameplay trailers from Summer Games Fest have sold me on this game. I think it looks great. Heck, even the super arcadey space sim mode looks like just what the doctor ordered. This game looks to actually deliver on everything that Starfield wishes it could be.

    I still am not going to preorder this. I do not want to encourage Ubisoft's FOMO head start access nonsense that they're pushing. So I will do my part to not give that my support, while still supporting the game in the long run. I'll probably wait for an early sale and grab it for like 10% off or something.

  • -Loki--Loki- Don't pee in my mouth and tell me it's raining. Registered User regular
    It’ll be 50% off after 6 months if you can hold out that long. All Ubisoft games do that.

  • SyphonBlueSyphonBlue The studying beaver That beaver sure loves studying!Registered User regular
    Probably not even that long. Alternatively, you can just pay $15 for Ubi+ for the month and play it that way.

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  • AegeriAegeri Tiny wee bacteriums Plateau of LengRegistered User regular
    edited June 14
    Also they released this story trailer a while ago:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUyk6D5rgcE

    The lady in the "Criminal organizations" part is indeed the same character from Solo.

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  • RiboflavinRiboflavin Registered User regular
    edited June 14
    Ok, couple thoughts.

    1. Graphics looks great, don't know what they were running it on but I'd be happy with it looking like that.

    2. I am getting good open world vibes from the voice narrating the gameplay trailer saying "traveling to your destination can be an adventure itself". There better be 10,000 things to distract me from what I am supposed to be doing, a la Far Cry 5's fishing.

    3. Is that some form of Deadeye at 10:01? Star Wars RDR2 would make my day.

    Anyway, makes me semi excited and cautiously optimistic.

    Oh and driving the speeder bike looks fun, I want to "Dukes of Hazard" across some canyons...

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  • Brainiac 8Brainiac 8 Don't call me Shirley... Registered User regular
    I am extremely excited for this game. I have really enjoyed the high quality Star Wars games we have been getting. Loved Fallen Order and Survivor, but am really looking forward to a non-Jedi Star Wars game.

    Love the main character design and the little alien axolotl. Between this, Lego Horizon, and Astro Bot...my PS5 will be getting a lot of use this year from me for new games.

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  • DemonStaceyDemonStacey TTODewback's Daughter In love with the TaySwayRegistered User regular
    edited June 14
    Yea game went from interested to day 1 after seeing the gameplay stuff.

    That said deciding whether to play this or Visions of Mana first is gonna be really hard.

    Really wish there was a little more time between them... but hopefully there's enough time to play both before Metaphor because there's no way I'm delaying that one!

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  • RiboflavinRiboflavin Registered User regular
    Watched 10 minutes of gameplay. Pretty interested in this but there seems to be a group of streamers jumping on it on the old youtubes. I wonder how much is spillage from the Acolyte, like its the popular thing to do. Everything I've seen looks good. The guards looked fairly unobservant in a tiny stealth section but so what, it is entertainment, wish fulfillment, I'm a bad man/woman they don't notice me if I'm blasting folks its because I'm so sneaky.

    I like the shooting. There is a red-dead like, slow time mark your enemies and shoot them dead power which is nice. The speeder-bike looks sick if they utilize it well. (jumps, fights a la Interstate 76). I will likely get this but wait a couple months for it to drop a couple bucks and read some reviews. My only disappointment is the lack of traditional skill trees. As long as they don't make her a long lost Jedi or something stupid I'm in.

  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    I haven't seen anything too negative. Some Youtubers, like Skillup, seem to think it's a "wait and see." Others, like Luke Stephens, were more positive about it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E49iH2y9OHc


    Personally, given Ubisoft's track record of discounting games soon after release, I am definitely going to wait. I definitely intend to buy and play this game. But not for full price. I'll wait 3-6 months and get it for 40% off.

  • AegeriAegeri Tiny wee bacteriums Plateau of LengRegistered User regular
    I think it's going to vary a lot on how much one is over "Ubisoft generic open world", which this seems to be with Star Wars on top of it.

    Personally I haven't played a Ubisoft open world game since Assassins Creed Black Flag, so it's actually not going to be too familiar for me. I do fully understand, having had similar issues myself, if people just look at that description and go "Nope" immediately. The fact that the developers have been saying it's around 60ish hours to do everything is very encouraging to me though, because it indicates it isn't going to have a solid thick layer of pointless open world cruft.

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  • RiboflavinRiboflavin Registered User regular
    Aegeri wrote: »
    I think it's going to vary a lot on how much one is over "Ubisoft generic open world", which this seems to be with Star Wars on top of it.

    Personally I haven't played a Ubisoft open world game since Assassins Creed Black Flag, so it's actually not going to be too familiar for me. I do fully understand, having had similar issues myself, if people just look at that description and go "Nope" immediately. The fact that the developers have been saying it's around 60ish hours to do everything is very encouraging to me though, because it indicates it isn't going to have a solid thick layer of pointless open world cruft.

    As a fan of all the Far Cry games "a solid thick layer of pointless open world cruft" gives me goosebumps. :-)
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  • DemonStaceyDemonStacey TTODewback's Daughter In love with the TaySwayRegistered User regular
    I think Skill-Up described it the best.

    It's like the Avatar game. Most mechanics are kinda simple and not too deep.

    But it absolutely nails the vibe and setting. So if you are into the vibe and setting it's a really cool experience.

    If you are just looking at the gameplay alone it will feel a little lacking.

    So I'm definitely grabbing it.

  • LanlaornLanlaorn Registered User regular
    I love the idea of an open world Star Wars RPG, the Jedi Fallen Order/Survivor games were a bit too on-rails for me even though the action was great, but is this strictly a no-force-allowed kinda game? Or do we think one of those "find a specialist to train you some skills" guys will be a Jedi on the run?

    I know some people don't like it but for me combining "scoundrel" and "jedi" would be the absolute best case scenario.

  • DemonStaceyDemonStacey TTODewback's Daughter In love with the TaySwayRegistered User regular
    Lanlaorn wrote: »
    I love the idea of an open world Star Wars RPG, the Jedi Fallen Order/Survivor games were a bit too on-rails for me even though the action was great, but is this strictly a no-force-allowed kinda game? Or do we think one of those "find a specialist to train you some skills" guys will be a Jedi on the run?

    I know some people don't like it but for me combining "scoundrel" and "jedi" would be the absolute best case scenario.

    Seems very strictly no Jedi stuff.

  • surrealitychecksurrealitycheck lonely, but not unloved dreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered User regular
    the game will recognise how high my midichlorian count is irl (name is literally luke) and give me a lightsabre, u chumps are stuck with blasters

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    The biggest unknown about this game is going to be the in-game monetization. Ubisoft is really bad about selling all the best transmogs in the cash shop, all the best mount customizations. They sell resource packs and time saver packs. Sometimes the in-game pace of resource accumulation and XP accumulation is tuned juuuuuuust slow enough to make buying those cash packs tempting for people. They are greedy fuckers. Which is another reason why I am not going to preorder or give them the satisfaction of a full price sale on day 1.

    I think it was AC Odyssey that was probably the most egregiously tuned in favor of pushing cash shop sales. We'll have to see how this game is.

    I'm definitely not okay with companies selling game editions for $130 dollars and then asking for even more money in the cash shop for cosmetics that should be earnable in the game by playing.

  • LanlaornLanlaorn Registered User regular
    Yea I think I'm going to wait for this game to come to Steam as a complete game edition with a reduced price and hopefully some future "yea sure, you can learn to use the Force, why not" DLC

  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    Thank god it’s not Yet Another Jedi thing. Star Wars is not just Jedi, please, I’m begging you to use the space wizards sparingly.

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    Sterica wrote: »
    Thank god it’s not Yet Another Jedi thing. Star Wars is not just Jedi, please, I’m begging you to use the space wizards sparingly.

    Alternate take... I think Star Wars is super boring without space wizards. The Jedi/Sith are the most vital component of the entire setting. (To me.)

  • DemonStaceyDemonStacey TTODewback's Daughter In love with the TaySwayRegistered User regular
    edited August 1
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    The biggest unknown about this game is going to be the in-game monetization. Ubisoft is really bad about selling all the best transmogs in the cash shop, all the best mount customizations. They sell resource packs and time saver packs. Sometimes the in-game pace of resource accumulation and XP accumulation is tuned juuuuuuust slow enough to make buying those cash packs tempting for people. They are greedy fuckers. Which is another reason why I am not going to preorder or give them the satisfaction of a full price sale on day 1.

    I think it was AC Odyssey that was probably the most egregiously tuned in favor of pushing cash shop sales. We'll have to see how this game is.

    I'm definitely not okay with companies selling game editions for $130 dollars and then asking for even more money in the cash shop for cosmetics that should be earnable in the game by playing.

    Firstly, any any speed of XP someone will find it "just slow enough" because some people don't like any XP. I would very much disagree that any of thpse games had XP slowed down for that purpose and I'm not even a huge fan of them.

    I have never felt like any of that stuff in those stores would be even remotely useful. The comesmetics can be a bit much sure, but then I just say plenty of games don't have cosmetics at all so not having whatever is in the shop and just not looking at it has no real bearing on the game that is there.

    Secondly, this isn't an XP game so that is all moot. You just learn skills from characters around the world.

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  • surrealitychecksurrealitycheck lonely, but not unloved dreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered User regular
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    Sterica wrote: »
    Thank god it’s not Yet Another Jedi thing. Star Wars is not just Jedi, please, I’m begging you to use the space wizards sparingly.

    Alternate take... I think Star Wars is super boring without space wizards. The Jedi/Sith are the most vital component of the entire setting. (To me.)

    yes but you have lucas literally in your name you're not doing a good job of going undercover... george

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  • DemonStaceyDemonStacey TTODewback's Daughter In love with the TaySwayRegistered User regular
    edited August 1
    I love Jedi games.

    But variety is good.

    And it's nice to have a game going all in on scoundrel aesthetic.

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  • Brainiac 8Brainiac 8 Don't call me Shirley... Registered User regular
    I'm in the camp that I like having the variety. I love Jedis, the Fallen Order games are games I love a lot...but I'm really excited to play a Star Wars game that has nothing to do with Jedi.

    I'm super excited for this game. I'm working to get a couple games I'm currently playing done before this comes out. It looks really fun!

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  • syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
    I would be shocked, shocked if there were no jedi in the game. If only as a plot point or whatever.

    Glad they are making a game where you do not play one though, and also a game that isn't completely tied up in the jedi lore, sith, etc.

    The universe ends up feeling very small when everything boils down to jedi and trips to the same desert planet.

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  • DemonStaceyDemonStacey TTODewback's Daughter In love with the TaySwayRegistered User regular
    By no jedi stuff I think most people mean no jedi stuff in gameplay.

    Like if some says the word Jedi I don't think anyone is counting that haha.

  • SiliconStewSiliconStew Registered User regular
    syndalis wrote: »
    The universe ends up feeling very small when everything boils down to jedi and trips to the same desert planet.

    Even if there's no Jedi, Outlaws doesn't exactly get full marks here since you will be running around Tatooine again.

    Just remember that half the people you meet are below average intelligence.
  • surrealitychecksurrealitycheck lonely, but not unloved dreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered User regular
    By no jedi stuff I think most people mean no jedi stuff in gameplay.

    Like if some says the word Jedi I don't think anyone is counting that haha.

    im counting it

    every mention of the j word is -1 i have standards

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  • RiboflavinRiboflavin Registered User regular
    I'll be fine with mentions of Jedi. I just don't want a stupid reveal like "You were force sensitive the whole time" and the games ends with you getting trained.

    I want a scoundrel/shady thief at the beginning and end.

  • surrealitychecksurrealitycheck lonely, but not unloved dreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered User regular
    what if they pull a switcheroo and you get tested and it turns out you're not only not a jedi you're the least force sensitive person on the planet. just standing within 50ft of a jedi gives them a headache

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  • JazzJazz Registered User regular
    https://wccftech.com/star-wars-outlaws-pc-system-requirements/

    PC sysreqs are about where I'd expect. But not where I'd like.

  • Andy JoeAndy Joe We claim the land for the highlord! The AdirondacksRegistered User regular
    Going to try to finish Stellar Blade to clear the deck for this. Even if I do we're getting hit with Emio the Smiling Man and Astro Bot right after, so it'll be a juggle, but I really do want to play this!

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  • cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Christmas-Man!Registered User regular
    what if they pull a switcheroo and you get tested and it turns out you're not only not a jedi you're the least force sensitive person on the planet. just standing within 50ft of a jedi gives them a headache

    Wasn't this one of the plot points of the last Star Wars movies, that Rey was some regular person and wasn't actually important or divine? Then they ignored it and pivoted hard the other way because people complained, but still.

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    what if they pull a switcheroo and you get tested and it turns out you're not only not a jedi you're the least force sensitive person on the planet. just standing within 50ft of a jedi gives them a headache

    Wasn't this one of the plot points of the last Star Wars movies, that Rey was some regular person and wasn't actually important or divine? Then they ignored it and pivoted hard the other way because people complained, but still.

    Yes and no.

    In Movie 1, it was very strongly hinted that her lineage did matter, and that she was a very important person. Also, she was extremely strong in the force regardless of who her lineage was.

    In Movie 2, regardless of whether people agree with it or not, Rian Johnson decided to subvert expectations by saying she was a nobody. HOwever... it was the badguy who said it, so there's also room for interpretation that the badguy was lying or twisting the truth for his own ends.

    In Movie 3, it was revealed that yes, she does have important lineage.


    Her force capabilities were never in question. She was mega strong in the force. She was never a "regular person" because regular people aren't hugely strong in the force.

    If anything, the fact that she naturally and instinctively knew how to do everything is a bigger plot hole than whether or not she had important lineage. She was able to do things like Force Push, Force Pull, Jedi Mind Trick, and fight with a lightsaber without dismembering herself, all of which are techniques and disciplines that took a literal lifetime of study in the Jedi Temple to learn and master, and hands-on instruction from Jedi instructors to teach those techniques. And she was able to do all of them without issue the very first time she tried, just by doing it, without practice and instruction. That was the bigger problem with Rey. The identity of her parents was a big point of speculation and contention, but it really never mattered to the story.

  • Andy JoeAndy Joe We claim the land for the highlord! The AdirondacksRegistered User regular
    what if they pull a switcheroo and you get tested and it turns out you're not only not a jedi you're the least force sensitive person on the planet. just standing within 50ft of a jedi gives them a headache

    Might not matter! The Ahsoka show seemed to establish that with enough training anyone really can use the Force, even without a notable midichlorian count.

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  • cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Christmas-Man!Registered User regular
    Wasn't there some kid at the end who uses Force powers on a broom

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  • Ninja Snarl PNinja Snarl P My helmet is my burden. Ninja Snarl: Gone, but not forgotten.Registered User regular
    edited August 2
    Wasn't there some kid at the end who uses Force powers on a broom

    Pretty sure that was to underscore the implication that literally anybody could be born with Force affinity, which was the point the movie was trying to make with Rey.

    Though it was pretty dumb that an untrained kid can use telekinesis when, again, everything shown and said about the Jedi clearly demonstrated that Force affinity and Force skills are absolutely two different things. Anakin was a prophesied Force child and the most ability he had was an unconscious level of premonition that let him race. He couldn't do anything else remotely Force-related until he trained, though.

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  • SiliconStewSiliconStew Registered User regular
    edited August 3
    Wasn't there some kid at the end who uses Force powers on a broom

    Pretty sure that was to underscore the implication that literally anybody could be born with Force affinity, which was the point the movie was trying to make with Rey.

    Though it was pretty dumb that an untrained kid can use telekinesis when, again, everything shown and said about the Jedi clearly demonstrated that Force affinity and Force skills are absolutely two different things. Anakin was a prophesied Force child and the most ability he had was an unconscious level of premonition that let him race. He couldn't do anything else remotely Force-related until he trained, though.

    Funny because Luke certainly is able to deflect blaster bolts while blind, make impossible torpedo shots, and lift rocks and x-wings the very first time someone merely tells him to try do it.

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  • surrealitychecksurrealitycheck lonely, but not unloved dreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered User regular
    yeah but im talking about a person whos the force equivalent of somebody who ruins a party just by showing up

    shes bad vibes

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  • Andy JoeAndy Joe We claim the land for the highlord! The AdirondacksRegistered User regular
    yeah but im talking about a person whos the force equivalent of somebody who ruins a party just by showing up

    shes bad vibes

    You mean like a blank from 40K?

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  • cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Christmas-Man!Registered User regular
    Or the energy vampire from the What We Do In The Shadows TV show

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