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  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    Both reviews called it disappointing, what were they expecting, actually?

  • The Zombie PenguinThe Zombie Penguin Eternal Hungry Corpse Registered User regular
    oh no, not game informer, that bastion of journalism

    I feel like I'm missing a whole bunch of context here?

    Ideas hate it when you anthropomorphize them
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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    I met the infamous Anor Londo archers. These seem like unnecessarily large arrows.

    They're intended for dragons but you're the first moving target they've seen in centuries

  • MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    I'll remember Game Informer for the subscription I got for for free through some GameStop thing.

    I had the issue with the cover story being Borderlands before changing the art style.

    I am in the business of saving lives.
  • smofsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    edited August 2
    Mention of dragons has reminded me I don't know what I'm actually doing in this game, now that I rang the bells. I mean I know I'm fighting these Lords, but I'm not sure why. Are the Lords bad? Were the dragons good? Who was Sen and why did they build their castle like that?? Who knows.

    Edit: this is mostly rhetorical. I kind of enjoy being completely lost, plot-wise.

    smof on
  • LarsLars Registered User regular
    Both reviews called it disappointing, what were they expecting, actually?

    Only thing I can think of is that the second game has less combat than the first and has more moments of depressing somberness.

  • DelduwathDelduwath Registered User regular
    oh no, not game informer, that bastion of journalism

    I feel like I'm missing a whole bunch of context here?
    I believe that for a time at least, Game Informer was sort of the "in-house" magazine for GameStop. I'm not sure about the specifics of corporate affiliation, but the understanding was that Game Informer is GameStop's magazine, and it was considered an advertisement in magazine form (rather than something that could be considered to have a distinct editorial point of view).

  • OptyOpty Registered User regular
    Magell wrote: »
    Opty wrote: »
    Really feels like the games industry is actively dying right now

    More like it's choking itself to keep making the line go up.

    Autoprofit asphyxiation

    But seriously, with tech at large just shitting itself trying to find the "next big thing" and the games industry being wrapped up in that plus having its own demons to deal with, it really does feel like we're witnessing the last days of the industry as we've known it for the last two decades. I hope whatever comes next is more sustainable, hopefully built on a solid foundation of unions and worker protections.

  • minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field ---Registered User, Transition Team regular
    Silent Hill 2 is my favorite Silent Hill game by a longshot, and one of my favorite survival horror games ever, but a 7 seems exactly correct for it.

    Ah, it stinks, it sucks, it's anthropologically unjust
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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited August 2
    oh no, not game informer, that bastion of journalism

    I feel like I'm missing a whole bunch of context here?

    it was just a very basic-ass 90s video game magazine, they give things scores and write a review blurb and run half the pages as ads or featured articles that are basically ads.
    it wasn't a particularly bad magazine but it was not particularly good either, it was mostly a vessel for advertising, as all the dead video game magazines have ever been.

    BahamutZERO on
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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    oh no, not game informer, that bastion of journalism

    I feel like I'm missing a whole bunch of context here?

    it was just a very basic-ass 90s video game magazine, they give things scores and write a review blurb and run half the pages as ads or featured articles that are basically ads.
    it wasn't a particularly bad magazine but it was not particularly good either, it was mostly a vessel for advertising, as all the dead video game magazines have ever been.

    Still means a bunch of people lost their jobs

  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    yeah fair enough
    more erosion of the print publication industry

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
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    Prison Architect 2 is delayed yet again, but this time, it could be for good. We've seen the upcoming management game delayed before—due to "new technical challenges" that warranted developers spending more time on stability testing. However, this time, the issue's more pronounced.

    "Our continuous internal reviews and beta test groups have highlighted areas that we need to focus on more, mainly performance and content, which we need to address before launch to ensure that you, the players, get a good experience in the game," the Prison Architect 2 team says in a blog post. "We need to raise the quality a bit more to meet the standards we'd like to achieve with this sequel."

    https://www.pcgamer.com/games/strategy/paradox-indefinitely-delays-prison-architect-2-just-like-it-did-with-life-by-you-before-it-was-scrapped/

  • Crippl3Crippl3 oh noRegistered User regular
    edited August 2
    the Game Informer shutdown was very sudden, the staff all found out today in the middle of working on the next issue
    https://x.com/KyleMHilliard/status/1819403288980132298?t=kCVHiVSBuAwZUqNWPjblOQ&s=19
    Game Informer has been closed down by GameStop and the entire, incredibly talented staff (including myself) have all been laid off. A frustrating turn of events (especially considering we were about 70% done with the next issue and it was going to have a GREAT cover).
    They even put up an episode of their podcast yesterday completely unaware of it:
    https://x.com/gameinformer/status/1819103266979868872
    The Game Informer Show #718 is live!

    We discuss why Marvel Rivals has grown on us and how it's shaking up the Overwatch formula. Next, we dive into recent indies, including Dungeons of Hinterberg, Arranger, and Thank Goodness You're Here!

    WATCH/LISTEN: https://bit.ly/4fmpJxH

    However, because the website was also completely shut down today with just the same farewell letter as the main twitter account put out replacing every page, you can't even access it on the website anymore, nor any of their archives or old video series. It's all fucking gone!

    Crippl3 on
  • Crippl3Crippl3 oh noRegistered User regular
    MinnMax, which was started by ex-Game Informer folks a couple years ago, is working on a community archival project:
    https://x.com/MinnMaxShow/status/1819409115606548752
    There's a Game Informer archival project happening in MinnMax's Discord at the moment. Jump in if you feel like being helpful and preserving some history.
    GI did hundreds of hours of video in their Replay and Super Replay series, plus tons of other video features including interviews and previews, along with tons of podcasts and lots of written articles on their site and digital/print magazine.

  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
    edited August 2
    I remember pre-pandemic at one of the Giant Bomb @ Nite E3 shows, Gerstmann had a bunch of game journalists on and made the "These are the last employed game journalists.. You did it, youtube." joke, and Andy McNamara (EIC of Game Informer at the time) was there and Jeff and he, being two of the longest employed journalists left in the industry, had a discussion on how much longer they think they had left.

    Andy quit and went to work as a game dev and Jeff is doing his thing on patreon after getting uncermoniously terminated by dipshit executives for the second time in his life, and now Game Informer is outright dead.

    You did it, youtube. Congratulations.

    Undead Scottsman on
  • KadithKadith Registered User regular
    i don't think outside influences killed an industry that refused to grow into anything more than opinion columnists and product reviewers

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  • MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
    edited August 2
    Kadith wrote: »
    i don't think outside influences killed an industry that refused to grow into anything more than opinion columnists and product reviewers

    Game Publishers helped kill them because people didn't want to just write fluff pieces so they pulled advertising.

    That and vulture capitalists buying the best sites and turning them into SEO farms

    Magell on
  • ZamZam Registered User regular
    Mention of dragons has reminded me I don't know what I'm actually doing in this game, now that I rang the bells. I mean I know I'm fighting these Lords, but I'm not sure why. Are the Lords bad? Were the dragons good? Who was Sen and why did they build their castle like that?? Who knows.

    Edit: this is mostly rhetorical. I kind of enjoy being completely lost, plot-wise.

    Like it says on the description of the very first item you pick up:
    There may be no answers, but one must still forge ahead.

  • LarsLars Registered User regular
    What was the game magazine that had that blue guy with a tv for a head as a mascot? I think they even did comics and stuff with that guy. They might have also did a big "event" where they killed him off around the time of Death of Superman?

  • LarsLars Registered User regular
    edited August 2
    Actually that reminds me of a different Death of Superman parody, but I can't remember if this one was in a game magazine or a spoof comic. The hero character was a more lanky dude (like Nester from Nintendo Power, but I doubt Nintendo Power did this), and they even parodied the last page being a fold-out like the original Death of Superman comic.

    Except with Death of Superman, when you unfold the page it goes from Superman in the arms of Lois to collapsed and dead, whereas in this comic when you fold out the page the hero sits up revealing his survival and asks for someone to hand him his pants.

    edit: Google is proving useless for looking up parodies from the early to mid-90s.

    Lars on
  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHuefHUAX3g
    Be prepared to ride again...

    i wonder how they'll continue to avoid furthering the narrative from darksiders 2010

  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Darksiders 3 kinda did that near the end, or at least set up for stuff that will happen when/if they go beyond it.

    So who's gonna be the focal character this time. I thought Strife got their turn with that whole RTS Darksiders game.

  • CarpyCarpy Registered User regular
    I thought 2 was a direct sequel?

  • LarsLars Registered User regular
    I just hope that it doesn't have Diablo-style loot like Darksiders 2. I don't mind Diablo-style loot, but I don't think it was a good fit for this series and I preferred the more Zelda-like approach of the first game.

  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Carpy wrote: »
    I thought 2 was a direct sequel?

    2 was set immediately after the prologue of 1, when War was imprisoned, but so far none of the Darksider entries have narratively moved past the ending of 1.

  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    Carpy wrote: »
    I thought 2 was a direct sequel?

    Nope, it actually took place before 1.
    Madican wrote: »
    Darksiders 3 kinda did that near the end, or at least set up for stuff that will happen when/if they go beyond it.

    So who's gonna be the focal character this time. I thought Strife got their turn with that whole RTS Darksiders game.

    I don't think that counts as Strife's turn considering War was also playable (it also was not an RTS, it was overhead exploration/combat sort of in a Diablo style). Strife also appears in disguise in 3, so I'd be pretty certain 4 is his turn.

  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    Kadith wrote: »
    i don't think outside influences killed an industry that refused to grow into anything more than opinion columnists and product reviewers

    Opinion columns seem like they'd be one of the main things to expect from an enthusiast publication

  • JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    Criticism is just opinions with a smoking jacket on.

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  • ElderlycrawfishElderlycrawfish Registered User regular
    Lars wrote: »
    What was the game magazine that had that blue guy with a tv for a head as a mascot? I think they even did comics and stuff with that guy. They might have also did a big "event" where they killed him off around the time of Death of Superman?

    Sounds like Gamefan

  • DrDinosaurDrDinosaur Registered User regular
    Mention of dragons has reminded me I don't know what I'm actually doing in this game, now that I rang the bells. I mean I know I'm fighting these Lords, but I'm not sure why. Are the Lords bad? Were the dragons good? Who was Sen and why did they build their castle like that?? Who knows.

    Edit: this is mostly rhetorical. I kind of enjoy being completely lost, plot-wise.

    No spoilers, just a rundown of who has told you what up to the point you're at:
    Oscar, the guy who gives you your Estus Flask, tells you to go to the land of the Ancient Lords and ring the Bell of Awakening to learn the fate of the Undead

    The Crestfallen Warrior, the guy moping around Firelink, tells you there are actually two Bells of Awakening

    and then Frampt, the snake guy who wakes up in Firelink after the second bell is rung, tells you that you are the Chosen Undead, and to succeed Lord Gwyn you need to travel to Anor Londo and retrieve the Lordvessel

  • ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User, Transition Team regular
    I don't really miss reviews from gaming magazines. I mean, they were useful, especially when I didn't have my own income and had to utilize the opinion of "experts" for what games I wanted for my own household library.

    But I put more stock in the interviews, the previews of upcoming games, and introspectives into the industry.

    But the single best part of those old gaming magazines is when they'd just devout 2-8 pages to just being a mini-guide for a game.

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
    The true best part is how utterly bugfuck insane video game advertising was in the 90's.

    Just some real bonkers-ass shit.

  • Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    Thank Goodness You're Here is fucking weird

    The opening titles use a version of The Marrow Song, for example, which would be most readily recognised by listeners of Round the Horne, a radio show from the sixties

    https://youtu.be/lyTPEVv-hNE?si=WB87DCsLKUt5jKX9

    Not only is it very funny in a surreal English way, it's got references that are so Yorkshire they might as well be wearing a flat cap

    Ginnels, whippets, the white rose, looking down on Sheffield... not to mention the anti-Thatcher graffiti everywhere

    So yes, I'm enjoying it, even though whoever transcribed the subtitles did a rather shaky job

    [Muffled sounds of gorilla violence]
  • NeveronNeveron HellValleySkyTree SwedenRegistered User regular
    Kadith wrote: »
    i don't think outside influences killed an industry that refused to grow into anything more than opinion columnists and product reviewers

    Opinion columns seem like they'd be one of the main things to expect from an enthusiast publication

    also, when it comes to product reviews

    keep in mind that a movie reviewer is guiding you on whether something is worth a couple bucks and 90 minutes. music albums are on a similar-ish scale, books scale up the time required a bit but have a lot of history behind them...
    meanwhile a games reviewer is guiding you on whether or not it's worth sixty bucks and dozens of hours

  • JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    Oh I say

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  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    edited August 2
    Neveron wrote: »
    Kadith wrote: »
    i don't think outside influences killed an industry that refused to grow into anything more than opinion columnists and product reviewers

    Opinion columns seem like they'd be one of the main things to expect from an enthusiast publication

    also, when it comes to product reviews

    keep in mind that a movie reviewer is guiding you on whether something is worth a couple bucks and 90 minutes. music albums are on a similar-ish scale, books scale up the time required a bit but have a lot of history behind them...
    meanwhile a games reviewer is guiding you on whether or not it's worth sixty bucks and dozens of hours

    People review appliances and cars, I don't think this is really a thing/ a problem. To elaborate, people review things that are more expensive and require more specialized knowledge than games.

    shoeboxjeddy on
  • NeveronNeveron HellValleySkyTree SwedenRegistered User regular
    Neveron wrote: »
    Kadith wrote: »
    i don't think outside influences killed an industry that refused to grow into anything more than opinion columnists and product reviewers

    Opinion columns seem like they'd be one of the main things to expect from an enthusiast publication

    also, when it comes to product reviews

    keep in mind that a movie reviewer is guiding you on whether something is worth a couple bucks and 90 minutes. music albums are on a similar-ish scale, books scale up the time required a bit but have a lot of history behind them...
    meanwhile a games reviewer is guiding you on whether or not it's worth sixty bucks and dozens of hours

    People review appliances and cars, I don't think this is really a thing/ a problem. To elaborate, people review things that are more expensive and require more specialized knowledge than games.

    yes, but do people complain about e.g. magazines with car reviews being a thing?

    (well, of course they do, people complain about everything)

  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    Neveron wrote: »
    Neveron wrote: »
    Kadith wrote: »
    i don't think outside influences killed an industry that refused to grow into anything more than opinion columnists and product reviewers

    Opinion columns seem like they'd be one of the main things to expect from an enthusiast publication

    also, when it comes to product reviews

    keep in mind that a movie reviewer is guiding you on whether something is worth a couple bucks and 90 minutes. music albums are on a similar-ish scale, books scale up the time required a bit but have a lot of history behind them...
    meanwhile a games reviewer is guiding you on whether or not it's worth sixty bucks and dozens of hours

    People review appliances and cars, I don't think this is really a thing/ a problem. To elaborate, people review things that are more expensive and require more specialized knowledge than games.

    yes, but do people complain about e.g. magazines with car reviews being a thing?

    (well, of course they do, people complain about everything)

    I presume if you say a really popular car is mid, car freaks will put a bomb threat in your inbox, yeah.

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