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Safari For Windows : The Sound of One Hand Clapping?

powersspowerss Registered User regular
edited June 2007 in Games and Technology
I'm going to assume that no one on here is stupid enough to use IE6. You're still dumb if you use IE7, but hey - not so much.

Apple has released Safari on Windows.

http://www.apple.com/safari

Faster than Firefox, IE, etc.

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  • SpeakeasySpeakeasy Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    ...but still is ugly as fuck.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    powerss wrote: »
    I'm going to assume that no one on here is stupid enough to use IE6. You're still dumb if you use IE7, but hey - not so much.

    Apple has released Safari on Windows.

    http://www.apple.com/safari

    Faster than Firefox, IE, etc.

    I am not a fan of safari. I gave this a try about three minutes ago, and I am still not a fan of safari. Opera, even though it runs slower on mac is still my goto browser.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    How exactly is this faster than Firefox or Opera?

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  • Shooter McgavinShooter Mcgavin Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    What are people basing their opinions on other than performace? Is there some kind of hidden feature of Opera that no other browser has? (just singling you out as an example)

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  • DHS OdiumDHS Odium Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    How exactly is this faster than Firefox or Opera?

    Because Steve says so.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    How exactly is this faster than Firefox or Opera?

    It's not faster than Opera, at least this version doesn't seem to be. Firefox, couldn't tell you.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    What are people basing their opinions on other than performace? Is there some kind of hidden feature of Opera that no other browser has? (just singling you out as an example)

    Personal peference. When I switched to Opera IE sucked and firefox crashed all the time. As far as I know nothing changed. Any feature Opera had over any of the other browsers has been added in either in new releases or extensions. It does run significantly faster than IE and crashes less than Firefox, but that is all personal experience.

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  • DigDug2000DigDug2000 Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Firefox is slow as hell really. Their javascript engine has a ton of cool features that no one else has, but its never been fast. It doesn't really matter because IE javascript engine is so much dumb as fuck slower, that no web sites that benefit from a fast javascript engine anyway.

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  • DHS OdiumDHS Odium Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Also, why the hell did Jobs blatantly lie when he said "Safari has always been the fastest browser on the mac."

    Bullshit. It has always been the slowest browser for me, Firefox, Camino, and Opera have always been faster on my mac and every one elses I've used.

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  • bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I just don't know why the hell anyone would use this, didn't work with my mouse's forward and back buttons, can only resize the browser window from the one corner, ugly as fuck brushed steel UI, and at least for mr the default text was bolded and hard to read.

    The only people who are going to use this are the idiots who believe everything that comes out of the Mac camp.

    What the fuck I installed safari and all of a sudden my itunes is getting runtime errors when I start it up. Can anyone else see if this is happening to them too.

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  • lordswinglordswing Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    oh man, the search function is pretty sweet

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  • DigDug2000DigDug2000 Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I just don't know why the hell anyone would use this, didn't work with my mouse's forward and back buttons, con only resize the browser window from the one corner, ugly as fuck brushed steel UI, and at least for the the default text was bolded and hard to read.

    The only people who are going to use this are the idiots who believe everything that comes out of the Mac camp.
    Heh. I find it hilarious that, after Apple's strict stance on UI guidelines for applications, they'd throw them all out the window when they port something to Windows. Regardless, this has to be mostly for web developers. Before, the only way to test a websites rendering on Macs was to buy a Mac. Now you can do it from your PC. Makes life much nicer.

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  • taliosfalcontaliosfalcon Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    hell, i dont think i know a single person w/ a mac (myself included) who even uses safari on them. its complete and utter shit

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  • RonenRonen Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I'm as big of an Apple fanboy as the next Apple owner (I own two of them, have sold countless to people, blah blah blah) but... there are still things out there that Safari (and FF, for that matter unfortunately) can't do that IE can due to developer attention/laziness. So while I'll enjoy Safari on my work XP machines (I'm using it now) I'm not about to ditch IE7 completely. Sorry OP.

    Edit: Oh man, first gripe: the Back button on my MX700 doesn't work. It works fine in Safari for OSX, so that's quite annoying.

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  • FaceballMcDougalFaceballMcDougal Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    The competition for the free browser market is serious business

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  • ZellZell Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    powerss wrote: »
    I'm going to assume that no one on here is stupid enough to use IE6. You're still dumb if you use IE7, but hey - not so much.

    Apple has released Safari on Windows.

    http://www.apple.com/safari

    Faster than Firefox, IE, etc.
    Safari for Windows: Making Internet Explorer look good. I'll stick with Opera.
    What are people basing their opinions on other than performace? Is there some kind of hidden feature of Opera that no other browser has? (just singling you out as an example)
    Just minor things really. There's no major features that usually ends up deciding my browser choice, but minor ones.

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  • Bionic MonkeyBionic Monkey Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2007
    powerss wrote: »
    I'm going to assume that no one on here is stupid enough to use IE6. You're still dumb if you use IE7, but hey - not so much.

    Apple has released Safari on Windows.

    http://www.apple.com/safari

    Faster than Firefox, IE, etc.

    I am not a fan of safari. I gave this a try about three minutes ago, and I am still not a fan of safari. Opera, even though it runs slower on mac is still my goto browser.

    Ditto. I've been using Opera for about five or six years now. I've tried other browsers, but nothing just seems to hold up.

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  • Snake GandhiSnake Gandhi Des Moines, IARegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Well, I've never used Safari before, so I'm playing with it now.

    I like iTunes, and this is a lot like iTunes, so it's cool to me. Not sure if it's gonna replace Firefox though.

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  • Bionic MonkeyBionic Monkey Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2007
    Is that page honestly trying to tell me Opera is the slowest of all browsers, IE included?

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  • bombboybombboy Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    hell, i dont think i know a single person w/ a mac (myself included) who even uses safari on them. its complete and utter shit

    I use Safari :<

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  • ben0207ben0207 Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Only reason I'd ever give up FF is if Google Browser sync gets ported.

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  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    i really hope this doesn't come across as trolling, but would this be the same Safari that only sometimes works with sites that feature anything more complex than html? I'm willing to accept there's more useful versions than what i've seen, but my own personal experience with Safari is that it's rather hit or miss. Nice, clean, simple interface, but the whole web-browsing side of things was a bit more sporadic.

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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    so much beta.

    Maximizing it on a secodary display causes the window to just......dissapear. crashes completely when I try to go to a sharepoint site with it (even firefox can handle them).

    it does seem to be faster, when it's not crashing.

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  • ResIpsaLoquiturResIpsaLoquitur Not a grammar nazi, just alt-write. Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Safari on Windows is still in beta, so some of our gripes may be fixed in the final release. That said, I'm finding it to be faster on my Vista machine than either FF or IE7.

    It may help that ever since FF started being unwilling to load video content (a la youtube, google video, that sort of thing), I've been running only safari on my mac, so I've gotten really used to it lately. That probably makes the swap to Safari on Windows a little easier for me.

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  • FatsFats Corvallis, ORRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Good lord, someone went a little overboard on the font smoothing.

    It works fine, but it's not any faster than a compiled version of Firefox. Oddly my faux-Safari theme looks nicer than the actual thing.

    Edit: Why can't I turn font smoothing all the way off

    Edit2: I broke it. Is there somewhere to report bugs?

    Edit3: Ah.

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  • mausmalonemausmalone Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    How exactly is this faster than Firefox or Opera?

    From what I'm seeing on my own computer here ... it's not. It's about equivalent.

    Don't trust benchmarking numbers from Apple generated from a program named iBench.

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  • ZxerolZxerol for the smaller pieces, my shovel wouldn't do so i took off my boot and used my shoeRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I call bull on those Opera speeds posted on the page. That browser is like lightning coated with grease gliding through mercury. I had a shit-ass 200 MHz laptop with 32 MB of RAM running Linux with a minimalist desktop, and while it took Firefox two minutes to load (I'm not shitting you), Opera booted in three seconds. The software is straight-up voodoo. Of course, I'm not sure of this mystical "HTML Performance" that Opera supposedly lags the fuck behind.

    Until other browsers offers the extreme customizability of Firefox, I'll take a pass. Still, it's great to see more third-party browsers on the Windows platform to challenge IE, and this move by Apple was unexpected to say the least. Safari on Windows. What's next?

    (Adium plz.)

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  • rayofashrayofash Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Opera is the fastest free browser you can get, other than IE. Opera is also the most stable (against IE and Firefox) and has the least amount of security holes (FireFox has even more than IE now because of it's popularity). Opera also has a good development team, unlike FireFox that claims every little bug is a 'feature' and refuse to fix them.

    I'll stick with Opera.

    I still use FireFox on Linux though, because it supports more plugins and it supports them better than Opera. It it takes up a QUARTER of my systems memory no matter how much memory I seem to put in.

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  • ZackSchillingZackSchilling Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Safari is great for stealing FLVs from online video players. Just open the Activity window and double-click the largest file you see. Play it in VLC. It's especially great for IGN's high-res content.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Zxerol wrote: »
    I call bull on those Opera speeds posted on the page. That browser is like lightning coated with grease gliding through mercury. I had a shit-ass 200 MHz laptop with 32 MB of RAM running Linux with a minimalist desktop, and while it took Firefox two minutes to load (I'm not shitting you), Opera booted in three seconds. The software is straight-up voodoo. Of course, I'm not sure of this mystical "HTML Performance" that Opera supposedly lags the fuck behind.

    Until other browsers offers the extreme customizability of Firefox, I'll take a pass. Still, it's great to see more third-party browsers on the Windows platform to challenge IE, and this move by Apple was unexpected to say the least. Safari on Windows. What's next?

    (Adium plz.)

    The only platform I notice any real slowdown with Opera on is the Mac. This could be because I only use older macs but I don't know. I still use it over Safari.

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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    My biggest gripe with FF has always been it's memory usuage. ti seemslike extra tabs increase it's footprint exponentally.

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  • NarianNarian Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    All I know is that my FireFox is crazy fast and smooth and haven't had a single problem in my years of FF use.

    But it's nice to see Safari on Windows.

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  • mausmalonemausmalone Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Zxerol wrote: »
    I call bull on those Opera speeds posted on the page. That browser is like lightning coated with grease gliding through mercury. I had a shit-ass 200 MHz laptop with 32 MB of RAM running Linux with a minimalist desktop, and while it took Firefox two minutes to load (I'm not shitting you), Opera booted in three seconds. The software is straight-up voodoo. Of course, I'm not sure of this mystical "HTML Performance" that Opera supposedly lags the fuck behind.

    Until other browsers offers the extreme customizability of Firefox, I'll take a pass. Still, it's great to see more third-party browsers on the Windows platform to challenge IE, and this move by Apple was unexpected to say the least. Safari on Windows. What's next?

    (Adium plz.)

    Again... iBench

    Also, until Web Developer Toolbar is available somewhere other than Firefox, I'm not even going to think of switching. And even still ... I really like Firefox anyway. There's so much functionality packed in there.

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  • ZellZell Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    There's really no reason to use this, is there? A very very slight increased in speed isn't much when it has so few features compared to other browsers. The Mac version at least has decent addons.

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  • PataPata Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    The competition for the free browser market is serious business

    It's basicly a bunch of companies trying to have the biggest E-peen.

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  • devolvedevolve Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    My biggest gripe with FF has always been it's memory usuage. ti seemslike extra tabs increase it's footprint exponentally.

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  • Cameron_TalleyCameron_Talley Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    It's BETA, people. It's going to have bugs. That's why there's that spider where the Home button usually is, you know? So you can submit bug reports. (Like closing the app with the "X" doesn't protect against closing when multiple tabs are open...only ctrl-q does)

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  • mausmalonemausmalone Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    devolve wrote: »
    My biggest gripe with FF has always been it's memory usuage. ti seemslike extra tabs increase it's footprint exponentally.

    Then, uh.... don't try Safari.

    Or install it, look at memory usage, weep, and uninstall it.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    mausmalone wrote: »
    devolve wrote: »
    My biggest gripe with FF has always been it's memory usuage. ti seemslike extra tabs increase it's footprint exponentally.

    Then, uh.... don't try Safari.

    Or install it, look at memory usage, weep, and uninstall it.

    Oh yeah, can't forget about that. I know why people love Firefox but man alive does it eat up memory.

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  • bombcarbombcar Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Safari for Mac + Pithhelmet + Keychain = win

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